ROYAL COLLEGE OF NURSING OF THE UNITED KINGDOM
COMMUNITY CHILDREN’S NURSING FORUM
A meeting of the Steering Committee of the RCN Community Children’s Nursing Forum took place
on 14th September 2006 at RCN Headquarters, London,
Ana Champou – Forum Organiser
Sue Dunlop, Representing the RCN CCN Forum Wales
Andrea Ferns, Children's Long Term Ventilation Co-ordinator, Royal Brompton Hospital
06/38 Chairs Welcome
MW welcomed members present at the meeting and members introduced
themselves to the invited guests. This meeting was not quorate.
06/39 Apologies for Absence
These were received from Committee Members, Diane Cook and Rachel Carter; co-
opted member Trudy Ward; RCN Adviser in Children's and Young People's Nursing,
Fiona Smith and Nursing and Midwifery Council Representative, Cathy Cairns.
06/40 Action Notes of Previous Meeting – Matters Arising
06/22 - White paper ‘Our Health, Our Care our Say’
althOurCareOurSay/fs/en – MW advised that the promised audit of Capacity in
Community Children’s Nursing had been undertaken during July/August in England.
Strategic Health Authorities and Primary Care Trusts had been asked to complete
audit data primarily focussed upon Disability and Palliative Care. Deadline for
response had been very tight. MW had shared concerns re content and process of
audit with Fiona S, who had, in turn raised issues with DoH. No timetable available
on reporting on the results of the audit. MW reported formally on the CYP groups’
presentation to Sheila Shribman in July. MW
06/09 - Budget Holding Lead Professional – Approx 20 pilot projects approved by
DfES MW will forward information via email.
06/25 – NMC have produced final version of document on ‘Assessment in Practice’ –
available from NMC website
06/36 MW reported that he had raised with Fiona Smith and, in turn, with Anne
Casey the query re annual accreditation/updating of the IV guidelines. Anne
confirmed that this was a mistake and that the Forum was not required to update
the IV guidelnes
These were approved as a true record.
Total Members in forum membership - 1,358
Children with Disabilities – 656
Endocrine Nurses – 22
Rheumatology Nurses– 20
Epilepsy Nurses– 69
Copy of latest finance update in excel spreadsheet attached to these minutes. The
Forum organiser was asked to chase up the Congress expense claim from Elaine
which had not yet been paid. NB this should be paid from the Ambulatory Care
Forum accout as agreed
MW advised of communication from members re NHS reimbursement for use of
members cars when visiting patients. MW had passed concerns on to Josie Irwin as
members had specifically identified the high mileage undertaken by CCNs as a
major issue. Josie has asked for specific details from members in order to
assimilate this into evidence being prepared for annual pay review. All
MW advised that he had written to the Chief Nursing Officer following publication
by the combined Departments of Health of ‘Modernising Nursing Careers’.
Copies of the letter have been circulated to members via email. MW will advise of
Chris Beasley- final
MENCAP –‘Breaking Point – Families Still Need a Break’ Members attention was
drawn to this document – available via Mencap website. www.mencap.org.uk
Continuing Care on DOH website. MW gave a brief update on the Consultation on
the ‘Adult’ Continuing Care Framework’ and proposed timetable for piloting a parallel
framework for children as follows:
August-Sept 06 – Agree Pilot sites
Sept-Oct 06 – Complete Initial revision to adult framework and agree conduct of
Nov-Dec 06 – Pilot amended framework for children and young people
Feb-April 07 – Consult on amended framework for children
Summer 07 – Publish framework for children and associated guidance
A number of pilot sites are being considered – details to be finalised at DoH
meeting later this month. Web site reference:
‘RCN President/Vice President’ election pack circulated at meeting with a list of
‘Keep Nurses’ working and keep patients safe information circulated.
RCN autumn conference and AGM, 17 th – 18th October 2006, Cardiff City Hall,
papers circulated at meeting.
RCN sent letter seeking member’s views about NHS Pensions Proposals.
NHS Employers Pensions, ‘Joint proposals from NHS Employers and the NHS
Trade Unions’ booklet circulated at meeting.
06/44 Forum Webpage / Newsletter
Members were encouraged to continue to provide regular updates to the Forum
website. Materials can be sent to Sonia Shepherd – email@example.com FS
MW reported that following the secondment of Anne Casey to the Department of
Health, the RCN had not been able to identify the necessary staff resource to edit All
Newslink. Forums had been encouraged to submit copy for the newsletter as usual
directly to Steve Jamieson: firstname.lastname@example.org. Subsequent to the meeting,
Alison Twycross advised that copy should now be sent to Sharon Withey:
email@example.com . MW agreed to submit copy for the next issue and
encouraged committee members to forward articles for inclusion onto him before
18th September. Amanda agreed to co-ordinate future newslink articles for
newsletter. Contributions to Amanda – firstname.lastname@example.org
06/45 Networking/Communication/Local Links
MW provided brief feedback on the CYP Advisory panel meeting held on 6th
September 06. Action notes of that meeting attached
06/46 Adviser’s Newsheet/Update
PDF MW gave some brief feedback on progress. Six Forum representatives have
been assimilated into the PMSAG (Professional Membership Structure Action
Group)June Clark, David Dawes, Donna Kirwan, Sue Nutbrown, Alison Twycross, and
BJ Waltho. One of each of the Forum representatives is represented in six on-
going strands of work. A website has been set up by Gerry Bolger, Chair of the In-
flight nursing Forum at http://www.voiceofnursing.co.uk/
There does seem to be a push to reduce the total number of Forums. MW reported
that he had received telephone call from Alison Twycross , sounding him (and the
other CYP Forum chairs) out with regard to a very early proposal to reduce the CYP
Forums to four – acute, ambulatory, education/research/management and public
health. This is only one of a number of ideas being floated at present. MW will
keep members updated on PDF issues as and when info is available.
06/47 Education/CCN Teachers Group
No reports available – but do see comments above re modernising nursing careers.
Members were advised that welcome letters will be going out to the newly elected
members of the committee advising them of their term of office.
MW advised that he had been told unofficially that in addition to the re-election of
himself, Di Cook and Amanda White, Trudy Ward and Joan Myers had been elected
to the committee.
AC was not clear as to the process of election of the Forum Chair, but will advise
06/49 Proposed forum publication
RC who is leading this work was not present at the meeting. MW has received
reminders from Fiona Smith as this publication is now outstanding. MW advised
that RC had only received feedback from DC and himself on the template/questions
which she had sent out following the September meeting.
It was agreed that it was not possible to complete this work with only three
steering committee members present. This item will be taken as a substantive All
discussion at the December meeting (if possible, as the only post-lunch item for
substantive discussion. Please look at attached documents (second document is
from DC) and either send comments in advance of meeting or bring along on the day.
Children's communtiy CCN publication.doc
publication 1 .doc
06/50 Conferences – Mirka Ferdosian
CCN Conference Confirmed for 15th March 2007.
March 15th 2006.doc
See attached provisional programme – MW
Sue Dunlop will provide names of speakers from Wales/Bristol
Andrea Ferns willing to provide concurrent session
Mirka will provide contact name for possible presentation from Guernsey.
MW will provide title and introductory paragraph and will make initial
contact with other potential speakers.
06/51 Congress 15th – 19th April 2007
Resolutions deadline – 27th October 06 – any suggestions to MW a.s.a.p. All
If you go to: www.rcn.org.uk/congress you will get all the information for Congress
Poster – poster design competition – details awaited.
Attendance - SC members to check/bring diaries to December meeting All
06/52 Agenda for change
To be removed from agenda as a standing item
06/53 Action Plan 2007-2008
It was noted that the group agreed to submit an action plan following receipt of
feedback from the Professional Membership Structure Action Group. Revised date
for submission now 15th December 2006. MW will bring completed draft in
electronic Format for discussion at December meeting prior to submission
06/54 Any Other Business
MW advised the committee of a forum chair’s day meeting scheduled for 20 th
September 06 focussing on PDF
Forum Induction dates
Two scheduled induction days for new forum members:
Friday 13th October 06
Thursday 26th October 06
06/55 Future Meeting Dates
14th December 06 Elaine Salmon will circulate email re possible later start for this ES
meeting – and evening event!!! Unless otherwise advised all meetings to commence
at 10.30 am.
Dates for 2007
1st March 07
14th June 07
13th September 07
13th December 07