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									                                     Idaho 2020 Blue Ribbon Task Force

      Public Safety, Transportation, and Natural
              Resources Key Committee
                                  Meeting Summary

Meeting Date – October 11, 2002
Meeting Location – Joe R. Williams Building, West Conference Room – Boise, ID

      Committee Members: Dave Bivens, Nancy Merrill, Debbie Hall, Guy Hurlbutt,
      Sherry Krulitz, Randy Olaveson, Judy Woodie, Darci Yarrington.
      Support Staff: Randy Tilley, Judy Welker, Gordon Graff.
      State Staff Providing Information: Tom Beauclair, Col. E.D. Strickfaden, Brent
      Reinke, Dave Rich, Paul Carroll, John McGee, Bob Hillman, John Chatburn, Larry
      Koenig, Larry Schlicht, Dean Sangrey.

   Discussion only - see below.

Discussion Items:
   Getting Started
   1. Introductions – committee members, support staff, and subject matter experts
      introduced themselves and gave information on their area of interest.
   2. Members were urged to throw away preconceived notions. If they were king or queen
      for a day, what changes would they consider? What could be accomplished in both
      the near term and the long term?
   3. Handout from the Division of Financial Management – historical information on
      public safety agencies.

   Juvenile Corrections
   4. This is a family issue. Juvenile Corrections is joined at the hip with the 44 counties.
      Six percent of the Juvenile Corrections population is dealt with at the state level. The
      rest are handled at the local level. Another common thread is drugs/alcohol – 94% of
      adults in the correctional system have substance abuse issues. (There may then be
      some overlap with the Health and Human Services Committee.)
   5. Ways to address the problem:
             Prevention
             Treatment
             Incarceration
      Need a balance between these.

6. A suggestion was made to look for information resources in other states.
7. A number of alternative treatment options were discussed:
          Detention Diversion – assess at intake
          Drug Court
          Boys and Girls Clubs
          Status Offense Court
          Attendance Court – brings family into solving the problem
          Peer Youth Court – tobacco tax and county funds
8. Currently, counties receive $19.5 million through ad valorem taxes. The state receives
    $43 million, of which 26% is passed through to the counties.
9. The issue of runaways versus throwaways came up as well as how adult mental health
    impacts the situation. “Safe houses” have been instituted to help with the problem of
10. A suggestion was made for Dr. Carter to come in from Ada County and talk to the
11. Cost shifting and public/private partnerships were mentioned. (Fifty percent of
    juveniles are in private placement facilities.) Also, the possibility of incentives to
    provide funding to counties to manage the tougher juvenile cases.
12. A concern was raised that cutting state funding might also impact federal matching
    funds and the committee should keep that in mind.

Adult Corrections
13. There are eight prisons in Idaho, seven operated by the state and one privately
    operated. Prisons make up 40% of the business of the Department of Corrections.
14. The Department of Corrections manages and treats offenders, but has no control over
    who is sent to prison or when they come out.
15. The prison population is 5,800 inmates. This is expected to grow 6-8% in the next 5
    years. “Non-violent” criminals comprise 72% of the inmate population. The
    percentage of women in prison is growing, primarily due to drug cases.
16. Corrections has been working with a New York City group looking at sentencing
17. Idaho has had some of the best treatment programs in the country.
18. Forty percent of prison operating costs is for food, utilities, etc.
19. Federal resources –
            Alien incarceration grants have been cut.
            Truth in sentencing funds for violent criminal incarceration require a 10%
             state match. These can be used only for buildings.
20. A suggestion was made to compare our prison situation with other states.
21. Prisons will be 3,000 inmates above capacity within the next 5-6 years. County jails
    are filled in two months. Out-of-state incarceration will be needed and costs $50-$55
    a day.
22. Long Term –
            How will the prison population grow in comparison to the state population?
             What is the breakout between less serious and more serious offenses?
            How do we reduce crime?

            Is funding per inmate reasonable?
            Examine ways to control methamphetamines, for example, the availability of
             components to manufacture them.
            Options to mandatory minimum sentencing. No study has been done in Idaho,
             but other states have studies available. Prosecutors often use plea bargaining,
             which may save money by avoiding a jury trial.
            Examine the pros and cons of privatization. Fifty percent of juveniles are in
             private custody facilities such as the Idaho Youth Ranch.
            Look at more opportunities for electronic monitoring.
            Community-based treatment opportunities.
            Look at speeding up the death row process and/or eliminating capital
             punishment. Costs are greater to execute than to house a prisoner due to
             appeals processes. Eliminating the death sentence could save a considerable
             amount of money. There are currently 21 death row prisoners.
23. The biggest problem in the system is that community-based treatment is not available.
    Treatment is needed for both adults and youth. Currently, the only way to get services
    is to commit individuals. Incentives are needed for communities to provide the
    services, perhaps a small charge on certain items. For example, the beer/wine tax
    hasn’t been increased in 25 years.
24. Managing the process was compared to a three-legged stool comprised of the
            Education
            Treatment
            Enforcement
    Each leg needs to be equally strong.
25. Facilities are classed as:
            Close
            Medium
            Minimum/Community
    A prisoner’s history is examined to determine the classification.
26. A suggestion was made to compare responsibilities of law enforcement agencies at
    the city, county, and state levels.
27. A handout was distributed – the executive summary from an Oklahoma study done by
    that state’s public safety team.
28. Several instances of collaboration between agencies were described. Public safety is
    part of law enforcement’s job, but military units are also responsible for homeland
    security. School safety includes resource officers. Brand inspection, animal
    quarantine, and water contamination involve a number of agencies.
29. The Task Force committees may be set up in a way that overlaps will occur. For
    example, treatment programs will also involve the Health & Human Resources
    Committee and the Education Committee.

30. Mass transit – several areas were discussed:
          City bus systems are duplicated somewhat by school bus companies.

           Federal funding is used by Health & Welfare for those needing transport for
            medical care.
           The gas tax has to be used for road building rather than transit needs.
           Sources of revenue should be found to match federal dollars so that money is
            not sent back to the federal government. Alcohol is hardly taxed at all. An
            additional 5-cent beer tax would provide some funding.
31. Idaho Department of Transportation:
           Where is their money distributed? We will hear more when a presentation is
            made at a future meeting. The committee will want to see what upcoming
            priorities and projects the agency has planned.
           IDT has a budget of $431,000,000 with $211,000,000 from the state gas tax
            and $220,000,000 in federal matching funds. They receive no state general
            fund money.
32. Questions:
           How will our aging population impact transportation needs of the future?
           How will technology impact transportation?
33. A number of agencies are involved in hazardous materials transport – the Idaho State
    Police, the Military Division with the Bureau of Disaster Services and the Bureau of
    Hazardous Materials, and ambulances through Health & Welfare.

Natural Resources
34. State agencies dealing with natural resources were listed:
            Department of Environmental Quality
            Department of Lands
            Department of Parks and Recreation
            Department of Fish and Game
            Department of Water Resources
            Department of Agriculture
            Outfitters and Guides Licensing Board
            Office of Species Conservation
35. The discussion revolved around safety issues. The state has a disease containment
    strategy in place. It is aimed at processor sites, not retail sites. The Bureau of Disaster
    Services coordinates a network of involved agencies.
36. A system for protection of drinking water is being planned through the Department of
    Environmental Quality.
37. The Department of Environmental Quality is funded largely through federal funds.
    Water quality is the largest program followed by air quality. The air quality program
    is handled jointly with the Department of Agriculture. DEQ also works with highway
    districts on this.
38. Legislation on water and air quality is commonly developed by the Division of
    Environmental Quality and the Department of Agriculture, jointly or separately
    depending on the circumstances.
39. The Department of Environmental Quality handles ambient water quality standards
    and regulates large swine and poultry (over 2000) operations. The Department of
    Agriculture is responsible for ground and surface water discharge from dairy and beef

      operations. The Soil Conservation Commission at Agriculture works with non-point
      source issues. The Department of Agriculture also regulates all disease issues.
  40. Idaho is the only state where dairy discharges to surface water are not allowed.
  41. Clarification was made that the committee’s charge in relation to natural resource and
      transportation issues is not limited to public safety aspects, but to the entire gamut of
  42. Overlaps with agencies outside of natural resources will occur. For example, West
      Nile Virus and other diseases will involve coordination with Health Districts.
  43. The Department of Environmental Quality will be providing a report on agency
      services to the administrative support staff for email distribution to the committee
  44. Agency personnel in attendance were asked to examine whether similarities in natural
      resource organizations exist where duplication could be eliminated.

  The following public safety agencies are being asked to make presentations at the
  October 30 committee meeting:

   Department of Juvenile Corrections
       o Including Magistrate Court
   Department of Correction
       o Including Supreme Court, and
       o Probation and Parole
   Idaho State Police
       o Including information on county and city law enforcement
   Division of Military

  The presentation should last 1 hour maximum and include the following:
        Roles and responsibilities
        Budget information
        Background of organization
        Current status
        Future needs
        Opportunities for improvement
        How to deal with technology and other changes
        How the system can be streamlined and improved
        How duplication can be eliminated
        Major projects
        2020 plan

  Agencies are also asked to provide a written summary of the presentation. Additional
  materials can be distributed prior to the meeting so that committee members have time to
  read them before the presentation.

  Transportation and natural resource agencies will not be asked to attend the October 30
  meeting. The committee will concentrate on public safety issues at that meeting and the
  follow-up session on October 31. Transportation and natural resource agencies will be
  asked to present at a later meeting.

Questions/Requests for Information:
  The Division of Financial Management distributed the Fiscal Facts booklet and a
  summary of public safety agency information during the meeting. Please contact Randy
  Tilley at rtilley@dfm.state.id.us or telephone number 334-3139 with questions.

  JD Williams distributed the Oklahoma Public Safety Executive Summary during the
  meeting. Please contact Gordon Graff at ggraff@jobservice.us or telephone number 332-
  3570, x3365 if you did not receive a copy. A copy of the Oklahoma Transportation study
  will be mailed to all committee members.

Next Meeting:
  Date: October 30-31, 2002.
  Time: 9:00 a.m. – 5:00 p.m. on October 30 and 9:00 a.m. – 1:00 p.m. on October 31.
  Place: Idaho State Police Headquarters – Meridian, Idaho.


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