CHG Meetings and Events
Thursday 24 November 12 noon for 1pm second talk by Susan Rainbird on Herd Dynamics at Le
Soleil Couchant, Verneuil
Following on from Susan’s very interesting talk on Herd Dynamics in September, she has agreed to
come back and carry on telling us about herd and horse relationships with an emphasis on training.
Food is available at the bar (www.lesoleilcouchant.com), we suggest people arrive from 12 noon to eat
before the talk if possible.
Friday 16 December CHG Christmas Dinner December at Le Soleil Couchant, Verneuil, 7.30 for
Christmas dinner menu
Prawn Cocktail or Smoked Salmon or Mushroom Soup
Turkey, Roast Beef, Gammon or Quorn Chicken (vegetarian)
served with fluffy roast potatoes, creamy mashed potato, herbed new potatoes, buttered carrots, honey
glazed parsnips and fresh Brussel sprouts with walnuts, plus stuffing, bread sauce, cranberry sauce and
Sherry trifle or steamy Christmas pudding with brandy sauce or Chocolate fudge cake and cream
20 euros including 50cl wine per person, or 17 euros without wine.
Future Meetings and Events
Sylvia has offered to host a classical training video/DVD afternoon early next year possibly featuring
Carl Hester, Phillipe Karl, Sylvia Loch.
Glenn Hasker has offered to do a talk – email from his wife Trudy:
“I am sure that your members are confident in the fits of their saddles but Glenn would be happy to
discuss other tack fitting advice (e.g. bits) or even provide a more in-depth overview of the correct
fitting of a saddle for different makes and models of saddle, from the view of a very ancient (I’m sure
she meant experienced!) saddle fitter” Date and venue to be arranged, but we’re aiming for next
Spring. If anyone would like Glenn to talk about a particular aspect of tack fitting or use, please let us
Dordogne Horse Group
The November meeting of the Dordogne Horse Group will take place on Tuesday 15th November 2011
at Chez Durand, Coutures. 24320.
This month sees a talk and demonstration of clicker training.
We plan to start at 10.30am with a talk and showing of training videos. We will then have a lunch
which is usually a share or you can just bring something for yourself if you prefer. Then after lunch we
will have a demonstration using members’ horses. If you would like to bring your own horse and learn
about clicker training with him/her then please let me know.
It helps if you can bring a garden chair to sit on for your own comfort.
If you need directions to the yard then please let me know. Also if you are planning on coming then let
me know so that we can cater for numbers.
Calling all Dressage Diva's
Is there anyone out there who is interested in technical, classical dressage?
I am planning a workshop/get together to discuss classical and modern dressage. I have copies of
Phillipe Karl’s DVD's which I thought we could watch and also his book called Twisted Truths of
Modern Dressage - A search for a Classical Alternative. I am hoping to have a dressage trainer who
practices Classical Dressage as opposed to Modern Dressage to put her slant on things and I am
looking to invite a Modern Dressage trainer too so that we can get both sides of the story.
My plan would be to meet at my home in Grand Brassac and we could share lunch and chat.
If there are enough people interested then I will arrange this for the end of November or beginning of
December. Contact me to express an interest.
Also we are planning to have a classical dressage workshop early in the new year. If you could let me
know if you are interested in this then I will go ahead and arrange a quality dressage trainer to come.
Obviously you will need to bring your own horse to this event.
For the Dordogne Horse Group
Wednesday 27 July 3pm “Classical versus Classique”
Diane hosted a very interesting viewing and discussion of the Hess v Karl DVD, with excellent tea and
13 September Pilates for Riders demo by Kerry
Following a discussion about Pilates and unmounted exercises for riders, Kerry demonstrated a broad
range of Pilates exercises and encouraged and helped everyone to have a go.
Pilates lessons are available with
Annie Cox http://www.pilateslimousin.com/
Anyone who wants to do some Pilates with Kerry just get in touch with her.
Kerry has offered members the opportunity to join her in her fitness training, which consists of
walking, swimming, dancing and a gym class – for details see
29 September talk on Herd Dynamics by Susan Rainbird
About 20 of us gathered at Le Soleil Couchant for Susan's talk on Herd Dynamics.
Susan gave a clear explanation of the hierarchy which exists in all herds and the part played by horses
within the herd and within their pair bonds. According to their position in the herd the horses will have
different roles. The hierarchy is constantly reassessed by herd members and their ranking can move up
or down between Alphas and Omegas.
Susan challenged the oft held view that horses perceive humans as predators and supported her opinion
A very stimulating and thought provoking talk and we look forward to the Training follow up.
What our members have been up to….
PTV practise held by Amicale de Cheval de Bandiat Tardoire on 09 October at Oradour sur
Vayres – by Sheila
We had over two dozen entrants from children through to moniteurs trying out new horses and on to
retirees! Everybody was complimentary about our efforts and lots said they would come again - so
watch this space, we will hold more of these informal events in the future. Next time maybe with a
POR (orienteering) section as well. Main problem is lack of volunteers as it takes a huge amount of
people to judge, time-keep, score, control etc. As you can imagine. So the trec'easy was without time
limit, and we grouped difficulties together so that they were more easily manageable by fewer people.
The site at Les Chapelles, Oradour sur Vayres, is ideal, with a wood with paths through it, some natural
ditches, natural banks and plenty of flat grass as well. I think it was good value at 5€ per entrant, which
gave them the right to have another go after everybody had been if they wanted. Everybody received a
rosette and small prize as well - nice for the younger riders.
Obtaining the ATE Qualification – by Gill Bullocke – 4th article
The last time I wrote about my training I was about to go on our 5 day randonnee which is an essential
part of the training. This took place at the beginning of March during which we had glorious sunny
weather although the nights were still cold, sometimes even frosty. Our route took us south from the
Centre Cheval Poney down to La Haute Yerle via St Felix de Reillac and Limeuil which is a delightful
little town on the confluence of the rivers Dordogne and Vézère where we spent a couple days before
moving on via Les Eyzies to le Bugue from where we boxed back.
Nine of us, 5 trainee ATEs, 2 trainee BPJEPS Tourisme Equestre, one client and our trainer took part in
the randonnée. On the first day I had the task of leading the group which meant reading the map whilst
also ensuring the safety and well being of the group, which was not easy especially we had to cross the
A89 from Perigueux to Brive at a very hazardous point. I then managed to get a bit lost and needed
help to find our way to the rendez-vous for lunch. Thankfully someone else took over for the afternoon
and we arrived at our first overnight stop in good time. We had a comfortable gite and the horses were
put in a couple of temporary paddocks on the farm belonging to the gite owners.
I did not take the lead again until the penultimate day when I had again a lot to learn about making safe
crossings where visibility is poor and about ensuring that I was looking after the group sufficiently
well, keeping them informed and controlled for their safety and not making mistakes in reading the
map. During the trip we also had to share in the catering, cooking and providing the back up each day.
L'intendance as it is called means clearing up at each overnight venue, packing the van with everyone's
bags, doing any additional shopping, making the picnic and the evening meal. Oh yes and putting up
the lines to which the horses were tied at lunchtime, a source of my demise for my final exam.
Each evening we had to do a debrief which was typically direct. Nevertheless it was very useful and
jovial, and the mostly young people were very welcoming to me, one of two middle aged ladies. We
had lots of laughs and I learned new slang words as well as more about French customs and
generosity. The horses, who all returned sound, although a bit thinner than when they departed, were
superb, ongoing as well as calm. This despite the long days of up to 25k and the occasional idiot lorry
driver such as the one in Les Eyzies who insisted on overtaking our group (crossing safely in pairs) on
a bridge over the river Vézère, passing within inches of the outside horses. The last morning was a
delight as we cantered along the banks of the Vézère to Le Bugue in the warm spring sunshine. It was
sad to leave everyone and return home at the end of our 5 day adventure from which I will always have
many happy memories.
Next up for us was the general exam which includes sections on farriery, stable management,
topography, equitation, saddlery repair and general business knowledge. This took place in late May
and as it was run on a regional basis we had to travel to central point for the Aquitaine, 50k south of
Bordeaux. The Centre Cheval Poney kindly lent us 2 of their horses for the exam and trucked them
down for us. However as it was a very early start to a long day we all travelled down the night before.
We also took the opportunity to look around the site and much to our horror found that the course for
the PTV included a huge log pile only 5 strides after a big drop and followed by a narrow bordure
maraichère (80 cm passage between 2 poles designed to simulate a narrow path) which had to be
executed in counter canter!! The equitation section included a warm up then doing the PTV (Parcours
en Terrain Varié) which included a section where you had to lead a second horse through a series of
difficulties (obstacles) such as bending poles, up and down banks and halt together in a defined area.
On completion of the course we had to do a debrief with the examiners, mentioning the good and bad
points as well as the areas for improvement. The next part consisted either lunging a horse and loading
a horse in a trailer or showing in hand (the French way). Fortunately the PTV in particular went very
well for me as my little mare was superb and jumped brilliantly. I managed to scrape through the rest
of the modules to pass much to my huge relief and delight.
Next up was the Journée Professional which consists taking a group of 6 riders (real paying clients)
plus the examiner and my trainer out for a day's randonnée using the horses from the Centre Equestre.
This, I mistakenly thought, was the easy bit however it was not to be! I had to write and submit to the
examiner a report describing the route, my preparations for the day and include a map as well as a
profile of the route. This meant several trips down to St Antoine d'Auberoche to check out the itinerary
(so that there were no map reading errors), to visit the lunchtime location and to find out about places
of interest en route.
So to the big day. I arrived bright and early and still managed not to be ready on time because I failed
to see that one horse had lost a shoe. A client kindly pointed it out but this meant a delay whilst he was
re-shod which was not a good start and turned out to be auspicious. Having got away about 45 minutes
late all went well until some cows frightened a young mare and her poor rider jettisoned to prevent
them becoming tangled in a barbed wire fence. Fortunately she was not seriously hurt and we re-
assembled, remounted and carried on without further incident until we got to our picnic venue. Here
unfortunately I had not put up the lines for the horses myself and on arrival I discovered that they were
not only too loose but also too low so I had to redo them in front of the examiner who was not at all
happy. I was very lucky to have the valiant help of Sheila Tragett who kindly rode as one of my clients
and I managed make them safe after an embarrassing half hour. The picnic lunch (which I also had to
provide) and the afternoon passed off reasonably well. We even managed a longish canter as well as a
tricky road crossing. However it was not good enough after the morning's incident which unfortunately
I did not handle safely enough to pass.
It was very disappointing but I did learn a lot and fortunately the examiner was kind enough to agree to
come back again in a couple of weeks and to let me take a few less clients. This time there were no
nasty incidents and I was deemed capable of taking a group of people on a randonnée. More relief and
my dream was beginning to look like reality again.
Gill is now officially able to offer rides from her Ferme Equestre in the lovely Perigord Vert – here is
her Christmas and New Year programme:
Christmas and New Year Rides at
La Ferme Equestre des Parcs, 24450 Miallet
Celebrate Christmas or New Year by joining us for an afternoon ride in
the wonderful Périgord Vert countryside followed by an evening meal and
overnight stay in our luxurious rooms
26th/27th December 2011
28th/29th December 2011
1st/2nd January 2012
€100 per person
Afternoon Tea and Cake
Aperitif, Soup, Sorbet, Beef Bourguignon, Cheese, Walnut tart, Coffee and mince pies
Wine with the meal
Max group size 5 people - riders need to be able to ride confidently at all 3 paces
For more information contact Gill Bullocke 0553625811
Rides subject to cancellation if adverse weather conditions; i.e. snow, alternative dates will be
Human sports physiotherapist
After months of searching, I have found a British sports physiotherapist practically on my doorstep
(Cheronnac). Tina Hall spent years competing as an acrobat and then became the team physio for the
GB Sports Acrobatics Team in 1993. She specialises in spinal mobilisation using a Theraflex system
and deep muscle massage, but deals with all musculoskeletal injuries, and therapy is backed up with a
programme of stretching and exercise to improve flexibility and strength. Contact details under
Directory below. Andrea
Laminitis website launched – www.thelaminitissite.org
Following years of research and studying, www.thelaminitissite.org is finally live, although we still
have months of work to do on it. It has already been visited and recommended by some of the top
universities and names in laminitis research! Our aim is to keep it completely free (and therefore
unbiased), for the moment anyway, and we’re hoping owners of laminitic horses will help by
contributing their experiences, photos and questions, and participating in the many surveys and
questionnaires that will appear on it, which will hopefully lead to future research. There is also a
linked Yahoo group where new research papers will be posted for discussion, and people will be able to
ask for advice about their laminitic horses.
One of our first research projects will be the role of corticosteroids in causing/exacerbating laminitis,
and if anyone has any experience of this, please email Andrea or use the contact form/survey on the
website, ideally with the name, method and exact amount(s) of corticosteroid administered, why it was
given, how soon symptoms of laminitis were seen and what they were, the severity of the laminitis,
whether the horse was tested for IR/EMS/PPID, the outcome…. Unfortunately many vets still believe
that corticosteroids do not cause laminitis, but anecdotal evidence says otherwise, and there is plenty of
research to confirm that single low doses of corticosteroids dramatically increase insulin levels.
Services offered by members
Paula Liddon is offering a horse and carriage wedding service and carriage driving holidays – see her
website for more details: www.lavoutelife.com
Libby Robinson is offering a Christmas gift with a difference: A two-hour Taster in Carriage Driving.
A "hands on"lesson on harness, putting to, and driving. Please contact 0545894759 or email
Gill Bullocke - livery services available at Mallet in North Dordogne (Perigord Vert) approx 15 km
south of Chalus. Grass or stabled livery, holiday and short-term liveries. Full services offered.
Contact: Gill Bullocke, Les Parcs, 24450 Miallet
Tel: 09 63 41 85 90 or 05 53 62 58 11 Mobile: 06 34 02 91 24
Dennis Fry Timber Services
Handmade Gates, Fencing, Stables, Field Shelters, Menages, Tree Surgery, Ground Clearance &
General Garden Maintenance
Angie Dyson – agent for AVON. Contact Angie on firstname.lastname@example.org to arrange an Avon party at
your house or hers or have the Avon book delivered to your house: Make up, face & body products,
perfumes, jewellery & accessories.
Fleur Hallam Photography - Equine, Countryside, and Event Photography.
Commissioned assignments - stallion and stud photography - horse portrait photography - countryside
and animal photography - event / show photography - fine art photography.
Tel: 05 45 84 08 19 Email: email@example.com
There are lots of adverts on the forum at the moment, including:
- Atlanta (Forestier) jumping saddle 17” 700 euros
- Several pairs of hoof boots: Old Mac’s G2 size 4 65 euros, Easyboot Epics size 2 65 euros, Easyboot
Bares size 2 65 euros
- Dublin navy show jacket 44” show jacket 20 euros, Gorringe navy show jacket size 14/16 15 euros
(possibly also long black boots size 38 & Dublin dressage shirts size 12/14)
- Trekker treeless saddle 200 euros ono
- Freemax treeless saddle GP/Endurance 17” brown with numnah 225 euros
- Ideal Jessica dressage saddle wide/medium 17 ½” (ranch) tan with Prestige girth and matching
leathers – 395 euros or possible p/e with narrow, high withered saddle
- Black dressage tailed jacket size 14/16 good condition
- Black leather stirrup leathers/Webbers
- Narrow, high withered saddle
Directory – new entries/changes
Please note new contact details for Hasker Enterprises:
Hasker Enterprise (English Master Saddlers - Glenn & Martin Hasker)
Checking the fit of your saddle and repairs-by-post (including reflocking and re-seating of saddles) are
3 Rue Emile Frange
87500 St Yrieix La Perche
Tel 06 43 96 34 08 (Trudy Hasker)
Animal osteopath, trained in the ESAO in Brighton with Lucinda Munchhausen.
Based in Bordeaux but will travel.
Tel: 06 71 38 93 39 or email: firstname.lastname@example.org
Horse Rug Laundry near Confolens up and running again. All Nikwax products used, machines
computerised and capacity of 50lb/23kg so rugs have got plenty of space to move around. Also do
floor rugs (animal people need these washing - I know). Can collect and deliver. 25 euro for filthy
outdoor rug to be dehaired, washed, reproofed and dried at low temperature. Please get in touch for
more information. Tel: 0644084661, email: email@example.com
Tina Hall, human sports physiotherapist
Bussac, 87600 Cheronnac
Wendy & Dennis Fry
Tel: 06 35 31 31 32 firstname.lastname@example.org
Suppliers for Westgate EFI www.wefi.co.uk
December orders need to be in early due to Christmas, and please remember there will be no delivery
in January, so order double in December. February will be the first delivery in 2012.
“Horsey Things” at Centre de Beauregard, 86250 Asnois, tel 05 49 87 05 59,
email JackiBeauregard@aol.com, website www.centredebeauregard.com
Open Mon – Fri 14.00 – 18.00, Sat 10.00 – 16.00 or by arrangement.
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