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					Goosed? Again? No!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
SHOWDOWN AT THE CC CORRAL
Disappointing points in the article
MUNCIE IS IN THE MESS IT'S IN BECAUSE OF LACK OF MORALITY
THANK YOU FIREFIGHTERS!!!
Blowing Off Steam
Dems And Reps Together - fighting for our future!
OK, Time Out! Happy 4th of July!
A Report From The Patio...from BiBi!
Notre Dame to donate $5.5M to local governments
Yeah..." courage "...imagine what would happen if the SP gave the CC a brain?
Great Post! Make 'Em See Jesus, BB!
It must be in the water!
MPD
The Mayor's Plan for MFD




Find Your Nearest Tax Exempt Entity!




ANOTHER MIS-LEADING HEADLINE FROM THE NEW DEMS AND THEIR WRITER MONKEY & Friends
But have we really looked at ALL the options?
 7/1/2009 12:14   agedoldbeaver   2446    4/4/2009    1/16/2011   Eight Little Million Dollars.One little, two little, t
 7/5/2009 11:26   agedoldbeaver   2446    4/4/2009    1/16/2011   LOIT Tax (Local Option Income Tax)on the City C
 7/5/2009 14:09   max47369         926   5/18/2008     5/5/2011   My frustration is to Mr. Williams and I wonder w
 6/19/2009 0:57   biblethumper      42    3/9/2009   10/30/2009   When you exploit the lower class, when you allo
6/26/2009 13:18   Eagles1            7   4/23/2009    6/26/2009   I just want to say what a nice job the station 4 fi
 6/22/2009 2:03   HAM-N-BEANS       30   6/22/2009    7/23/2010         First and far most I'm not going to take one
 7/5/2009 21:22   agedoldbeaver   2446    4/4/2009    1/16/2011    On behalf of the Delaware County Republican P
 7/4/2009 16:28   agedoldbeaver   2446    4/4/2009    1/16/2011   For the men and women who have served this c
6/30/2009 19:18   agedoldbeaver   2446    4/4/2009    1/16/2011   LOIT! (Lowering Our Income – Tax)Last night I h
6/29/2009 22:56   lostID            23   3/17/2009   11/12/2011   The University of Notre Dame plans to donate $
6/24/2009 16:00   agedoldbeaver   2446    4/4/2009    1/16/2011                New post Reply to this Post
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6/23/2009 22:21   agedoldbeaver   2446    4/4/2009    1/16/2011   Muncie Politics BlogNews you can use. (maybe!
6/26/2009 23:51   wizard56         150   5/10/2008    3/10/2011    If you are as tired as I am of the vicious fighting
 6/4/2009 17:15   Verum            176   7/12/2008    7/10/2009   I realized we do not give a fair share of attention
 6/4/2009 14:08   Verum            176   7/12/2008    7/10/2009   Just to be fair, I am starting this thread to discus
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 6/20/2009 0:15 ChaosTheory        247    6/5/2009   10/27/2009 http://www.wwmt.com/articles/roads-1363526
 ars.One little, two little, three little million, four little, five little, six little million, seven little, eight little, oops no more millions, all our TIF
 Income Tax)on the City Council agenda for Monday night!!Like putting lip stick on a pig, the additional Income Tax will double current loc
r. Williams and I wonder where he checked his common sense when he came to Muncie.He did 2 things in this article which I find STUPID!
 ower class, when you allow corruption on every hand to infiltrate our local government, when you rob people of their votes in an electio
  a nice job the station 4 firefighters did on trashing the station before they left it. Way to be upstanding citizens and heros of the commun
  I'm not going to take one more dime away from my family and give it to this city government period . Got that city council ? Not one m
ware County Republican Party I offer our objections to the imposition of the Local Option Income Tax (LOIT) upon the taxpayers of this co
en who have served this country and protected our freedoms - thank you ! Have a safe and happy holiday, everyone.
 come – Tax)Last night I had the opportunity to listen to a city councilperson, Brad Polk, speak about the LOIT and our local government.
e Dame plans to donate $5.5 million over the next decade to the cities of South Bend and Mishawaka, St. Joseph County and the town of
                           New post Reply to wrote:Courage halliepena wrote:Courage?Nah, just business as courage. Kevin Nemyer tell
                                                      Report         New post for your country. Abuse council has wrote:Replying to Bennni:The
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              Report Abuse whatshesaid2005 this Post Abuseis fighting Reply to this Post County CowboyBobnousual. DC citizens...say g'bye
ews you can use. (maybe!)If You Drive A Car, I’ll Tax Your Streets, ‘Cause I’m The TaxmanO.K. folks, here’s the down and dirties on the Wh
 am of the vicious fighting on these forums regarding the Mayor and the Firefighters; How about a little trivia fun? After one political trivia
ve a fair share of attention to our boys in blue. So, here is a thread for them.I am not 100% on what concessions they have made are wha
 rting this thread to discuss the mayor's plan for our MFD. Since their is no official plan I can only comment on her actions and statements




again, ain't that right, That's_A_Monkey ?Tally - ho !
m/articles/roads-1363526-mich-counties.html I'm not serious here, folks.
 oops no more millions, all our TIF money is gone. Whoosh! That giant sucking sound was 1.1 million dollars earmarked for two new fire t
ncome Tax will double current local rate, neutralize Modernization effort and destroy Muncie's economic development, it's only answer t
 in this article which I find STUPID!1) Told the world that she keeps a gun and where she keeps it. Great job Williams. Mayor, take my adv
people of their votes in an election, when kids are killing kids in our City, when police are as corrupt as the criminals, when people are for
 citizens and heros of the community!! Thanks once again for all you do to cost us the taxpayers yet more money. Now monies will be spe
Got that city council ? Not one more dime!!! No more taxes!!
OIT) upon the taxpayers of this county.Establishment of this tax at this time would represent a recklessness we simply cannot afford. Why
ay, everyone.
  LOIT and our local government. I can not stress enough how important it is to get informed. With all the information disseminating via t
t. Joseph County and the town of Roseland. The first checks hit the mail in the next few weeks.... http://www.indystar.com/article/20090
Bob wrote:Replying to Bennni:The one big lie is right out in the open. The promise of 100% for roads is a distraction. Ignore where the pre
 s the down and dirties on the Wheel Tax. It passed. I know, you are in shock.Most of us will pay $25.00, light trailers and motorcycles les
trivia fun? After one political trivia question gets answered, ask some other questions, one at a time. ------------------------------------------------
 cessions they have made are what their total savings to the city will be, but I know it isn't at the million dollar mark asked for by the mayo
ent on her actions and statements.Close 3 stations: Station #1, Station #4, and (rumored)Station#7: Estimated savings$32,000 minus cos
llars earmarked for two new fire trucks. Don’t get me wrong, we desperately need newer fire trucks, but let’s negotiate a viable and equ
ic development, it's only answer to it's many economic problems....The Fiscal Body of the City, facing an imminent $4 million hit and a tot
job Williams. Mayor, take my advice and keep the gun somewhere else or lock you car door everytime you leave it.2) After being advised
he criminals, when people are forced out of their homes because they canot afford to pay the property tax, when you celebrate wicked b
e money. Now monies will be spent to clean up your “home” that you decided to leave a pig pen because you were mad and upset. How
                                           And you F.F. who the He#$ do you think you are? You tried to put pressure on the mayor and
ess we simply cannot afford. Why? First of all, the recently established Modernization and Reorganization Committee has just begun its w

he information disseminating via the “net”, it is hard to separate fact from fiction. As much as I would like to believe I am 100% correct al
/www.indystar.com/article/20090629/LOCAL/906290385/ND+to+donate++5.5M+to+local+governments
a distraction. Ignore where the previously budgeted road money went. Ignore where we are spending the money that this is replacing. Th
, light trailers and motorcycles less. Heavy vehicles, buses, recreational vehicles taxed at $40.00.How did the county council come up with
 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------It has been mentioned
 dollar mark asked for by the mayor. Will she be laying off more police officers when she lays off the firefighters, so she can meet that mi
 imated savings$32,000 minus costs of relocating equipment. (rumored)Leave station # 5 unmanned: Estimated savings unknownElimina
ut let’s negotiate a viable and equitable plan for consolidating fire protection for Muncie and Center Township. Then we can spend those
  imminent $4 million hit and a total $8 million shortfall over the next couple years and yet leading up to the crisis point, they didn't even
 you leave it.2) After being advised by the Police Chief to "never take the same route to city hall" Williams lets us knoow that she stops by
tax, when you celebrate wicked behaviour (mardi gras) you have a City that is both morally and ethically bankrupt.There is a blanket of sin
se you were mad and upset. How do you think that make us feel now? Now that we have to pay more of our hard earned money to clean
 o put pressure on the mayor and failed. So I guess now you are putting pressure on the city council to raise the taxes on me and my famil
on Committee has just begun its work and has not had the time needed to study and recommend solutions. The committee must be given

ke to believe I am 100% correct all the time, it is not possible. It is one of my heart’s desires to bring you the most accurate and current in

 e money that this is replacing. This tax is about giving the council some breathing room in the budget and some walking-around money.R
d the county council come up with these rates? Let’s ask the county lawyer. Attorney Amanda Dunnuck said she looked at surrounding c
 ---------------It has been mentioned on these Forums before about the unusual amount of current elected officials that graduated from the
efighters, so she can meet that million dollar mark?Can someone reiterate the concessions they have already made and share any insight
stimated savings unknownEliminate 40 firefighters: estimated savings 2 million annually minus unemployment costs and inreased overtim
wnship. Then we can spend those 1.1 million buckaroos to retire the debt on the newer Center Township trucks instead.Blammo! That no
  the crisis point, they didn't even feel compelled to acknowledge it. NOW, that the reality has jumped up and bloodied their nose, they in
ms lets us knoow that she stops by a nearby Starbucks every day about 7:30 am. Brilliant indeed.back to the East Coast with you Williams.
y bankrupt.There is a blanket of sin that has taken this City and what we need is a good dose of God in our City once again! We need to sto
 f our hard earned money to clean up your mess. Do we want your help--- not like this---not if it comes in terms of costing us more of our
aise the taxes on me and my family and the people in this town. Just to keep what you have that you should'nt of had in the first place. yo
ons. The committee must be given time to complete its task.Although there are many opinions about the significance of the revenue shor

u the most accurate and current information possible. Of course, some is just my opinion, get your own. That being said, I will address la

nd some walking-around money.READ THIS! Bennie is on the right path here. Like the United Way, you can donate to the charity of your c
k said she looked at surrounding counties that had a wheel tax. Finally, decided on the Madison County rates, since their county mirrored
d officials that graduated from the small school of Wapahani! But there is something even more unusual regarding the Wapahani-grad ele
 eady made and share any insight you might have on how they intend to meet their remaining financial shortfall?
yment costs and inreased overtime costsNo plan for future budget shortfallsNo plan for new fire protection modelsDid I miss anything?
p trucks instead.Blammo! That noise was $1.5 million dollars promised to lure VAT to Park One to install a vertical windmill and lights and
p and bloodied their nose, they intend to make the TAXPAYERS accountable!!!..That additional $19 million that they want to thrust upon
 the East Coast with you Williams.
ur City once again! We need to stop celebrating immorality and start repenting for our sins, "for when God's people, who are called by his
n terms of costing us more of our hard earned money because you’re throwing a fit because you didn’t get your way. All because Muncie
ould'nt of had in the first place. you try and get support from the public with your scare tactics. That people will die cause you don't have
e significance of the revenue shortfalls for Muncie and Delaware County, actual losses have not yet been determined. Premature passage

. That being said, I will address later in the post a common misconception that I believed to be true. On to the important things.As you a

an donate to the charity of your choice, but they just cut what general money they will give that agency. Sounds good, but your favorite a
rates, since their county mirrored our county. Madison county is at the top of the scale when it comes to the tire fee a/k/a wheel tax. W
 regarding the Wapahani-grad elected officials - Did you know that 4 of them grew up within two blocks of each other on the same street

tion modelsDid I miss anything?
 a vertical windmill and lights and establish a manufacturing facility employing at least 105 employees at $21.70 per hour. OK. I enthusias
on that they want to thrust upon the backs of the taxpayers, is DOUBLE the entire Muncie General Fund in the current Budget. And that a

 od's people, who are called by his name, will turn from their wicked ways, then will I hear them and restore them."Unless we begin to rep
get your way. All because Muncie has lost businesses and citizens that pay your salary and we can’t afford it any longer. You think anyone
ople will die cause you don't have enough manpower. It's B. S. and you know it. You guys could learn alot from the F.F. of yesteryear. Talk
 n determined. Premature passage of this tax could cause even more undue hardship on our already overburdened citizens. While we reco

n to the important things.As you all know the Muncie City Council on July 6th, 2009 is planning on imposing yet another tax upon the citize

 . Sounds good, but your favorite absolutely does not get more money in the long run. Same is true here. Unless you watch what happens
s to the tire fee a/k/a wheel tax. We can’t let anybody steal our place at #1 for taxation…still, we will be satisfied to share first place with
  of each other on the same street? Name them? Hint: The street is Jackson street in Selma.
t $21.70 per hour. OK. I enthusiastically support new jobs and renewable energy, so consider that last paragraph merely a tally of dollars
 in the current Budget. And that adds up to an ADDITIONAL $167/year FOR EVERY MAN, WOMAN AND CHILD IN THIS ENTIRE COUNTY! Fo

tore them."Unless we begin to repent, things are only going to get worse.
 rd it any longer. You think anyone WANTS this to happen?? No we don’t, but we sure as hell don’t go around trashing our place and expe
t from the F.F. of yesteryear. Talk about some great men. See guy's they took care of the same things you guy's take care of today. Ball Ho
rburdened citizens. While we recognize and appreciate the fact that the current business climate and losses of industrial and business tax

ing yet another tax upon the citizens of Delaware County. You all know it is LOIT. Won’t rehash the ramifications of this tax, y’all know m

. Unless you watch what happens to the original tax money and how it is administered, any bookkeeper can make it LOOK like 100% of th
 satisfied to share first place with our neighbor, Madison County. (At least on this one.)We can revisit the tax in 2013, amended from 201
paragraph merely a tally of dollars spent, but consider that prior to the recent spending spree the Morrison TIF (Tax Incremental Financing
CHILD IN THIS ENTIRE COUNTY! For wage earners only, it is an ADDITIONAL $384.00/year...For households only it is an ADDITIONAL $422.


 ound trashing our place and expect YOU to foot the bill to clean it up. No thank you!! You want to appear as heros and want children and
 u guy's take care of today. Ball Hospital, Ball State same old buildings down town. the same old neig
 sses of industrial and business tax revenues have contributed to the dilemma we now face, we also know that our government spends too

mifications of this tax, y’all know my feelings.A couple of things you need to remember when this tax is imposed is that Muncie has squand

 can make it LOOK like 100% of the new funds are going to paving, when the old funds are now diverted to pay for more Donatis, Bartons
he tax in 2013, amended from 2015. President Todd Donati believes this tax will generate 2.9 million dollars, based on the amount of regi
on TIF (Tax Incremental Financing) District ha
ds only it is an ADDITIONAL $422.00/year..For all Delaware County families it is an A


ar as heros and want children and people to look up to you? Why would anyone

w that our government spends too much money and that establishment of a LOIT tax, which

mposed is that Muncie has squandered tax money for

 to pay for more Donatis, Bartons and Chambers.6/24/2009 11:09:56 AM
lars, based on the amount of registered vehicles in 2008.

				
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