Police, Fire & Safety Committee
11th March, 2010
Agenda Item No.
THE FIFE COUNCIL - POLICE COMPLAINTS AND DISCIPLINE SUB-COMMITTEE,
POLICE HEADQUARTERS - GLENROTHES.
19th January, 2010 1.00 p.m. - 2.25 p.m.
PRESENT: Councillors Betty Campbell, Bob Eadie, William Ferguson, David Herbert,
Lizz Mogg, Arthur Robertson and Margaret Taylor.
ATTENDING: Deputy Chief Constable Andrew Laing and Superintendent David Hardie,
Head of Professional Standards, both Fife Constabulary; and
Thomas Garrett, Committee Administrator, Democratic Services,
Performance & Organisational Support, Fife Council.
FOR ABSENCE: Councillor Margaret Kennedy.
Councillor David Herbert, who was the replacing Councillor Jim Burke (the outgoing
Chair) was welcomed to this, his first meeting of the Sub-Committee.
73. APPOINTMENT OF CHAIR
Nominations for the Chair of this Sub-Committee were invited.
Councillor Lizz Mogg, seconded by Councillor Margaret Taylor, moved that Councillor
David Herbert be appointed as Chair of the Sub-Committee.
Councillor William Ferguson, seconded by Councillor Betty Campbell, moved that
Councillor Bob Eadie be appointed as Chair of the Sub-Committee.
There voted for Councillor Herbert - 4, for Councillor Eadie - 3.
Councillor David Herbert was appointed the Chair of the Sub-Committee.
The Sub-Group considered the Minute of the Meeting of the Police Complaints and
Discipline Sub-Committee of 18th December, 2009.
The Sub-Committee approved the Minute as a correct record, subject to the inclusion
of Councillor Margaret Taylor under “Apologies for Absence”.
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75. DATE OF NEXT MEETING
It was agreed that the next meeting of the Sub-Committee would be held on 30th
76. DELIVERY OF PAPERS
Some discussion took place over the best method of delivering the papers for this
Sub-Committee to Members, being mindful of the potential security risk of these
falling into the wrong hands due to their being third-party data contained within the
papers. It was suggested that the Government’s Protective Marking Scheme would
safeguard the papers.
It was agreed that papers would be delivered to Fife Council at Fife House,
Glenrothes for onward transmission to Members marked “To Be Opened By
77. EXCLUSION OF PUBLIC AND PRESS
The Sub-Committee resolved that, in terms of Section 50(A)(4) of the Local
Government (Scotland) Act 1973, the public be excluded from the meeting for the
following items of business on the grounds that they involved the likely disclosure of
exempt information, as defined in Paragraph 1 of Part 1 of Schedule 7A to the Act.
78. COMPLAINTS STATISTICS
The Sub-Committee considered a report by the Deputy Chief Constable advising of
trends in relation to complaints about the Police in terms of the Police (Conduct)
(Scotland) Regulations 1996 registered with Fife Constabulary during the periods 1st
April to 30th June, 2009; 1st July to 30th September, 2009, and 1st October, to 31st
December, 2009, with the data for these periods in 2008 being presented for
comparison purposes. Superintendent Hardie specifically drew the attention of the
Sub-Committee to Schedule 2, which presented the overall complaints compared
alongside the demand profile, (namely the number of incidents reported to Fife
Constabulary during the same period in each quarter, presented in graph format);
Schedule 3, which depicted the performance per 10,000 incidents per quarter in 2008
and 2009, allowing an understanding of the current position in comparison with 2008,
and Schedule 4 depicting the breakdown of allocation of the course of the year to
date compared against 2008, presented in graph format. Reference was made to the
PCCS User Focused Assessment of the Accessibility of Police Complaints Handling
which had made a number of recommendations for forces to take forward to improve
user accessibility. The Action Plan contained within the report recommended that a
link to the Police Authority website clarifying their involvement in complaints handling
be made. In the rationale section, further detail was provided indicating that this link
should detail how complaints against Chief Officers were handled under the Police
(Conduct) (Senior Officers) (Scotland) Regulations 1999.
The Sub-Committee noted the content of the report and agreed that Fife Council
required to explain its process for complaints against Chief Officers of Fife
Constabulary on their website. It was noted, that once the Police had access to such
a website they would provide a hyperlink.
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79. EXAMINATION OF PREVIOUSLY SELECTED CASES
(Previous Minute Reference: para. 68 of 2009.P.C.D.19)
The Sub-Committee gave consideration to Cases Nos. CO/00045/09; CO/00051/09;
CO/00068/09; CO/00088/09; CO/00107/09; and CO/00144/09.
The Sub-Committee noted the information presented and the responses given in
relation to the issues raised in discussion.
80. SELECTION OF CASE FOR THE NEXT MEETING
The Sub-Committee selected the following cases to be considered at the next
In connection therewith, Councillor Robertson made reference to the case numbers,
having noted that some numbers were missing. Superintendent Hardie agreed to
provide feedback on the missing numbers to a future meeting of this Sub-Committee.
81. WORK OF THE SUB-COMMITTEE
It was that that, at a future meeting of the Police, Fire and Safety Committee, the
Chair (Councillor Herbert) should advise the Committee on the work of this Sub-
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