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                      TUESDAY, 17 AUGUST 2004




The House met at 14:00.

The Speaker took the Chair and requested members to observe a moment

of silence for prayers or meditation.


                               NEW MEMBER


The SPEAKER: Can somebody please thank the choir and ask them please

to let us proceed with the work of the Chamber without further ado.

The Speaker announced that Mr P A C Hendrickse had been nominated on

21 July 2004 to fill the vacancy caused by the resignation of Mr M M

Masala. The member had made and subscribed the solemn affirmation in

the Deputy Speaker’s office.
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                           NOTICES OF MOTION

The CHIEF WHIP OF THE OPPOSITION: Madam, I hereby give notice that I

shall move as a subject for discussion:

 The human rights tragedies in Darfur in Sudan and the massacre of

 Congolese Tutsi refugees in Burundi.

Mr M WATERS: Madam Speaker, I hereby give notice that I shall move

as a subject for discussion:

 A social welfare safety net as a means to alleviate poverty.


                           (Draft Resolution)

Ms N D NGCENGWANE: Madam Speaker, I move without notice:

 That the House –

 (1)   notes that –

       (a)   on 15 August 2004, at the Athens Olympic Games, the South

             African men’s 4x100m freestyle relay team won a gold

             medal, and that, through this tremendous victory, our
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              team wrote their names as well as South Africa’s into

              Olympic history by setting a new world record; and

      (b)     to achieve this victory, the South African team had to

              defeat, among others, the USA and Australia in an event

              that these countries have dominated since 1964;

  (2) congratulates Roland Schoeman, Lyndon Ferns, Darian

      Townsend,Ryk Neethling and the entire South African Olympic

      team and      the coaches and administrators on this heroic

      victory; and

  (3) believes that this achievement will serve as an inspiration to

      the youth of our country and should spur them on to aim for

      further successes in all aspects of human endeavour as we work

      to reconstruct and develop our country, continent and the

      common world we inhabit.


Agreed to.


                           (Draft Resolution)
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Mr T D LEE: Madam Speaker, I hereby move without notice:

 That the House –

 (1)   wishes every success to the South African Olympics team and

       Paralympics team as they compete in Athens over the next


 (2)   believes that victory is achieved not only through the

       winning of medals but also through the character our athletes

       demonstrate while competing;

 (3)   knows that our athletes have already and will continue to

       provide an excellent advertisement for South Africa in the

       sportsmanship they demonstrate; and

 (4)   further believes that both our Olympics and Paralympics teams

       will surpass their achievements of the Sydney 2000 Games.


Agreed to.


                          (Draft Resolution)
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Mr W P DOMAN: Madam Speaker, I move without notice:

 That the House –

 (1)   congratulates the Springbok rugby team on their sparkling

       performance in beating the All Blacks last Saturday; and

 (2)   wishes them well for the Tri Nations decider this coming



Agreed to.


                         (Draft Resolution)

The CHIEF WHIP OF THE MAJORITY PARTY: Madam Speaker, I move the

motion printed on the Order Paper in my name, as follows:

 That, with reference to the resolution adopted by the House on 15

 June 2004, the entry in the resolution concerning the Children’s

 Bill [B70-2003] be amended to read as follows:
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    Children’s Bill [B70-2003 (Reintroduced)] (National Assembly -

    sec 75).

Agreed to.

                     CELEBRATING WOMEN’S MONTH

                        (Member’s Statement)

Mrs N B GXOWA (ANC): Madam Speaker, I wish to make the following

statement. Exactly eight years ago our country joined hands with our

women to celebrate women’s month. This month came about because of

the struggles of the women of our country.

This year coincides with the fiftieth anniversary of the formation

of the Federation of South African Women. That was a milestone in

our history and our struggle for national liberation. This year’s

celebrations also coincide with the celebration of a decade of

freedom. Before 27 April 1994 South Africa was among the worst

performing countries in terms of women’s representation in

Parliament. Today we are number 12 on a list of 183 countries

surveyed, and we are among the most progressive countries in

promoting and safeguarding the interests of women.

We call upon our government to continue in its effort to improve the

status of women to the level of active participation in society. We
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challenge the business and other sectors to play their rightful role

in enhancing the status of women. The emancipation, upliftment and

empowerment of women is fundamental to the continuing growth of our

new nation. Investing in women is investing in the nation. Thank

you. [Applause.]


                         (Member’s Statement)

Dr A I VAN NIEKERK (DA): Geagte mev die Speaker, die besluit van die

NNP om met die ANC saam te smelt, nadat die teendeel voor die

algemene verkiesing voorgehou is, het die 250 000 ondersteuners van

die NNP geskok en in ’n politieke vakuum gelaat. Selfs vir hul

getroue ondersteuners soos F W de Klerk was die eensydige besluit

onaanvaarbaar. Hy het nou die eerbare stap geneem om die NNP te

verlaat. Dié besluit van die NNP bring Suid-Afrika nader aan ’n

eenpartystaat. So ’n eenpartystaat kan baie probleme meebring; kyk

maar net na wat in sommige van ons buurlande gebeur.

Suid-Afrika het ’n sterk, kritiese, positiefgesinde opposisie soos

die DA nodig, wat nie kruiperige samewerking bedryf nie. Dit is

binne die DA waar oud-NNP lede ’n tuiste sal vind – ’n party wat nie

skroom om ’n standpunt te stel in belang van al die mense van Suid-

Afrika nie. Ek dank u. [Applous.] (Translation of Afrikaans member’s

statement follows.)
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[Dr A I VAN NIEKERK (DA): Madam Speaker, the decision of the NNP to

merge with the ANC, after the opposite was exhorted before the

election, has shocked the 250 000 supporters of the NNP and left

them in a political vacuum. The one-sided decision was unacceptable

even to its loyal supporters such as F W de Klerk. He has now taken

the honourable step of leaving the NNP. This decision of the NNP

brings South Africa closer to a one-party state. Such a one-party

state can cause a lot of problems; just look at what is happening in

some of our neighbouring countries.

South Africa needs a strong, critical, positively minded opposition
such as the DA, which does not practise fawning co-operation. It is
within the DA that former NNP members will find a home – a party
that will not hesitate to take a stand in the interests of all the
people of South Africa. I thank you. [Applause.]]


                        (Member’s Statement)

Mr V B NDLOVU (IFP): Madam Speaker, SA National Defence Force

members have been arrested by the SA Police for illegal entrapment

of Zimbabweans along the border with Limpopo. Allegations of theft

and the ill treatment of Zimbabweans who enter South Africa through

the Madimbo corridor are being investigated by the police’s special
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investigation unit. They have confiscated bicycles, cigarettes and

blankets found stored in a room at the Madimbo military base.

This alleged behaviour is totally unacceptable and should not be

tolerated. We therefore urge the relevant authorities to conduct a

thorough investigation into this matter so as to put a stop to it.

If it is the truth, all the culprits should be brought to book. If

members of the SANDF are involved in corruption, they should be

removed from their posts.

                            THE OLYMPIC SPIRIT

                        (Member’s Statement)

Mr C T FROLICK (ANC): Madam Speaker, 108 years ago in 1896 the

modern Olympic Games started in Athens, Greece. The founders of the

modern Olympic Games had as their goal to contribute through sport

to efforts to bring about peace in the world. Over the past four

Olympic Games we have managed to send our Olympic team to compete

with the best in the world. Our people sent a team with the

understanding that they would advance this noble objective of the

Olympic Games and sport in general.

The Olympic Games demonstrate the oneness of humanity. This is

further emphasised by the objective of the Olympic movement that the

mission of the Olympic Games is to contribute to building a peaceful
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and better world by educating the youth through sport practice

without discrimination of any kind, and in the Olympic spirit of

friendship and fair play.

There are individuals who have left a mark on the Games. Wilma

Rudolph, who won three gold medals at the Rome Olympic Games in

1960, is one such an example. When she returned home to Clarksville

in the USA, a parade was held in her honour and she insisted that

the parade be open to every citizen of the town, both black and

white, and in the true spirit of the Olympic Games. She achieved

this despite her disadvantaged background. I thank you. [Applause.]


                        (Member’s Statement)

Mr L M GREEN (ACDP): Madam Speaker, gone are the days when the light

bulb was exclusively used to bring light to our homes and the paper

straw mainly for drinking a cooldrink. We are living in a day and

age where crystal methamphetamine or crystal meths, or, as it is

more commonly known, tik-tik, a highly addictive drug, is being sold

in drinking straws and smoked using light bulbs by schoolgoing

teenagers. The long-term effects of tik-tik include heart attacks,

damage to blood vessels, possible brain damage and lung infections.
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Our youth is our future and we must protect them against the scourge

of drugs. I wish to call upon our government to use all its power

and influence to bring an end to the drug scourge facing our nation

today by preventing illegal drugs from entering our country, taking

economic actions against countries with poor export and

international travel control, stopping the illicit manufacturing of

drugs in South Africa, and stopping the drug dealers from reaching

the children of our country. Dealers sell their drugs around schools

and recreation areas with impunity, and the government should punish

the guilty swiftly and effectively.


                           (Member’s Statement)

Ms S D MOTUBATSE-HOUNKPATIN (ANC): Madam Speaker, just over five

weeks ago the third African Union Assembly of Heads of State and

Government unilaterally gave our country and our people the honour

to host officially the seat of the Pan-African Parliament. This is a

historic event that cements the growing relationship between the

people of our country and the continent, and the broader

international community.

The ANC wants to thank the leadership on the continent for showing

their confidence in us by allowing us to contribute to the

democratisation and regeneration of the continent. We reaffirm our
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commitment to work with the people of the continent for the African

Renaissance, and to work towards a better life for the people on the

continent as a whole. We want to thank Africa and the world

community for contributing to our liberation and for the role they

continue to play in the transformation process of this country and

the continent as a whole. I thank you. [Applause.]

                       TRAVEL VOUCHER SCANDAL

                           (Member’s Statement)

Mr D H M GIBSON (DA): Madam Speaker, the promised debate on the

travel voucher scandal has not yet been programmed. Because this

topic affects Parliament and all MPs, each day that passes, the

damage to the reputation of MPs and Parliament escalates.

HON MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

Mr D H M GIBSON: The DA’s position is clear: any DA MP charged will

be suspended and any DA MP convicted of dishonesty with public money

must lose his or her seat in Parliament. There is a strong public

perception that relatively junior MPs have been listed to date and

that some powerful office bearers in Parliament and government are

being shielded. I hope that you will accept that we must play open

cards, publish the list of 135, publish the forensic audit report

and practise what we preach: openness and accountability. The crooks
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must be punished, the innocent exonerated and only then will

Parliament’s reputation be restored. [Applause.]

                     DEMAND FOR FREE EDUCATION

                        (Member’s Statement)

Dr S E M PHEKO (PAC): Madam Speaker, the PAC, as part of its Pan-

African vision, wants to create a world where the children of the

poor shall receive free education and take our country and continent

technologically to unprecedented heights of advancement and economic

prosperity. It is a great disappointment to the PAC that since the

recent elections several institutions of learning, such as Wits, the

University of the North, the Tshwane College of Technology and the

Eastern Cape Technikon in Umtata have erupted, mainly over students

who cannot afford to pay their tuition fees. It is indeed

disgraceful that at institutions of learning such as the University

of Pretoria African students are reported to have turned toilets

into sleeping quarters because they cannot afford education and


It is equally disturbing that after ten years of democracy in this

country very few students pass matric. Less than 20% of matriculants

went on to tertiary studies in 2002. This is because of the poverty

of many students. They have no capacity to acquire this expensive

education. The PAC demands free education.
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                         (Member’s Statement)

Mr K A MOLOTO (ANC): Madam Speaker, the ANC welcomes the

announcement by the Governor of the SA Reserve Bank on 12 August to

cut the repo rate by 50 basis points. This demonstrates and

indicates the resilience of our economy in the turbulent

international economic climate. Ten years ago, at the dawn of a

democratic order, the ANC inherited an almost bankrupt government.

We inherited chaotic financial systems. There was no proper system

of financial accountability. We inherited a double-digit inflation

figure and an economy that was continuously shrinking. We had no

access to international financial markets.

The macroeconomic policies we adopted as the ANC-led democratic

government have yielded the positive results that we are enjoying

today. Over the past 10 years our economy has been growing

consistently. It has withstood the turbulent crisis that has

affected many developing countries in the last 1990s. Today we have

a prime lending rate of 11%, something which South Africans have

never known in the past 23 years. Today we are the envy of many

developing countries. This will increase our potential to boost

economic growth, job creation and our ability to fight poverty. I

thank you. [Applause.]
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                         RIGHTS IN ZIMBABWE

                        (Member’s Statement)

Mr W J SEREMANE (DA): Madam Speaker, amidst our jubilation over our

sports achievements, it is sad to notice that South Africa and the

Southern African Development Community have again failed to stand up

for democracy and human rights in Zimbabwe.

The SADC meeting in Mauritius was a perfect opportunity for leaders

to discuss the report on Zimbabwe by the African Commission on Human

and Peoples’ Rights, which the Zimbabwean government has now had

time to study. Instead, SADC leaders outdid each other in heaping

praise on Mugabe’s government, despite the overt repression of the

voice of dissent and the ongoing suffering of ordinary Zimbabweans.

The silence of the South African government is particularly

disappointing given that South Africa is the current chair of SADC’s

organ on politics, defence and security. One of the objectives of

the organ is “to promote and enhance the development of democratic

institutions and practices within member states, and to encourage

the observance of universal human rights”.
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By failing to deal with the Zimbabwean government’s destruction of

democracy and its human rights abuses, South Africa is failing to

carry out its responsibilities, and that is tantamount to fiddling

whilst Rome is burning. [Applause.]


                        (Member’s Statement)

Prince N E ZULU (IFP): Madam Speaker, it is sad and incomprehensible

that so many South Africans have lost their lives, lost their limbs

and lost their potency through the pollution of the environment with

gaseous, industrial and vehicular emissions. South Durban and its

surrounding areas are typical examples of polluted environments the

odour of which is detectable, not only by laboratory technology, but

by passers-by through nasal respiration.

Here we speak of human suffering because we are part of it, not to

mention the animal and plant catastrophe that goes unnoticed. The

Constitution of the country protects the environment and all that

live in it. Given the status of our polluted environment, it is

clear that industrial profits and wealth are made at the risk of

life and limb. Therefore, further industrialisation of the country

needs to be guarded against through specifications and compliance

targets that will render South Africa’s environmental air quality

safe again.
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Startling statistics from the victims of this scourge can no longer

be ignored. Thanks go to the Department of Environmental Affairs and

Tourism for the sterling work they are doing in this regard. Men and

women of goodwill are hereby urged to keep our environment clean and

clear of all polluting substances. Thank you.


                        (Member’s Statement)

Ms E NGALEKA (ANC): Madam Speaker, the United Nations, in

recognising inequities amongst indigenous people worldwide, declared

the decade of 1994-2004 the International Decade of the World’s

Indigenous people. The International Day of the World’s Indigenous

People is on 9 August every year. Indigenous people are spread

across the world, from the Arctic to the South Pacific, and a rough

estimate of their number is some 300 million.

It is recognised that the establishment and protection of the rights

of indigenous people are an essential part of human rights and a

legitimate concern. Africa is the cradle of humanity, with the

oldest and greatest genetic and cultural diversity of any continent,

and it’s also the richest in terms of biological diversity. Africa

has one tenth of the human population but one third of the world’s

languages, reflecting the diversity of the continent.
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The South African government has taken the lead in Africa in

recognising indigenous people. This includes the SA San Institute,

the SA San Council and the working groups of indigenous minorities

in Africa, the National Khoisan Consultative Council, the Griqua

National Conference and the Continental Africa Indigenous Women’s


Notwithstanding the South African government’s commitment to making

reparations for violations and injustices, there is a need for broad

consultation to develop policies and practices that recognise the

right to self-determination of indigenous people in the United

Nations system and their contribution of indigenous knowledge to

sustainable development and biodiversity protection. I thank you.



                        (Member’s Statement)

Ms M M SOTYU (ANC): Madam Speaker, I rise to commend the Western

Cape government and the community of Mitchells Plain on their

efforts to find baby Rafique, who went missing last week. We

particularly acknowledge the role of Mr and Mrs Ohlsson, whose son

Matthew went missing seven years ago. We also commend the community
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leaders and plead with them to assist the police in its courageous

efforts to return baby Rafique to his home.

With this statement, we, as Parliament, would like to plead with the

community to assist the community of Mitchells Plain to find baby

Rafique. [Applause.]



                       (Minister’s Response)

The MINISTER OF SAFETY AND SECURITY: Madam Speaker, the hon Louis

Green may have sounded romantic in the way he raised the issue in

his statement. However, he was raising an important question.

This is one of those issues that we ought to be seized with, as the

very people who are responsible as public representatives in this

House. He is raising the matter of the circulation of drugs in our

communities. I’m particularly happy that he is raising it on a day

that we have schoolchildren among those who are visiting this House.

Ndivuyiswa kukuba kukho noomama noodadewethu apha namhlanje ngenxa

yokuba indaba yezidakamizwa yindaba enkulu kakhulu. [I am

particularly happy because the mothers and my sisters are here

today, because the drug issue is our main concern.]
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It is going to be very important for all of us - our communities,

our children - to combine our efforts to ensure that we expose those

who are circulating drugs in our communities, so that they are

arrested and kept out of our communities for a long time. So, I do

want to record my appreciation that he raised this particular


There is a new development in South Africa and, once again, I call

upon the public representatives here to mobilise our communities so

that, together, we can fight this. A number of our children are now

going missing, because there are criminals out there who have

decided to take these children away from their parents, and mostly,

these children are used for sexual offences.

I am, therefore, appealing to all of us ...

... kuni bantwana, boomama noodadewethu abakhoyo namhlanje ... [ ...

to you, children, mothers and sisters present here today ...]

... to help us to find these criminals, because they also have to be

removed from society and kept in our jails for long periods of time.

Thank you very much. [Applause.]


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                      (Subject for Discussion)

The SPEAKER: The next item on the Order Paper is the Subject for

Discussion on Women Celebrating the Decade of Freedom on the Path to

Total Emancipation. I will now call upon the hon Deputy Speaker to

address us. [Applause.] While the Deputy Speaker is approaching the

podium, I wish to take this opportunity ...

... lokuba ndinamkele boomama. Ndithanda ukuvakalisa ukuba

siyanamkela apha kwiNdlwini yoWiso-mthetho, sisithi le yimini

ebalulekileyo ukuba nibe kho ukuze nive ukuba kuthiwani na

ngamalungu ePalamente eniwakhethileyo. Enkosi. [Uwele-wele.]

[Kwaqhwatywa.] (Translation of Xhosa paragraph follows.)

[... of welcoming you mothers. I would like to announce that we

welcome you in Parliament; we say this is an important day for you

to be present so that you can hear what the members of Parliament

whom you elected are going to say. Thank you.


The DEPUTY SPEAKER: Madam Speaker, House Chairpersons, members of

the executive, hon members, ladies and gentlemen ...
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Ke batla go kopa Ntlo eno gore e ntumelle gore ke go leboge Mme

Sebui ... [I would like this House to give me permission to thank

Madam Speaker...]

... for lifting the status of women during this month of August.

Today, and on many other days that came before today and up until

the end of the month, we will be celebrating Women’s Month. We wish

to thank you for your leadership in that regard.

I am also honoured to lead my leaders in this debate. I now know

that the President of the ANC Women’s League will be participating.

I want to thank her for participating in this debate in spite of her

heavy schedule. It shows how important this debate is to all of us.

Thank you very much. [Applause.]

Samora Machel once said, and I quote:

 The emancipation of women is not an act of charity. It is not a

 result of a humanitarian or compassionate attitude. The liberation

 of women is a fundamental necessity for the revolution, the

 guarantee of its continuity and the precondition of its victory.

 The main objective of the revolution is to destroy the system of

 exploitation and build a new society, which releases the

 potentialities of human beings.
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This is the context within which women’s emancipation arises. This

is the context within which we celebrate the pride of 10 years of


Empowering women to participate equally in power-sharing and

decision-making structures at all levels has long been identified as

a priority for the achievement of gender equality. The extent of

women’s participation in decision-making structures, whether at

global, regional or subregional levels, is an area of concern. In

Africa, despite being faced with enormous obstacles, women have

participated in the various struggles and liberation wars against

colonial regimes, and in South Africa, against apartheid.

However, women have tended to make their contributions outside

political and policy-making structures. Thus, while women all over

this continent are well organised within families, communities and

nongovernmental structures, and increasingly in regional and

international networks of various kinds, their participation in the

more formal political structures tends to be marginal.

Traditionally, political life is predominantly male. It is shaped by

masculine norms and standards that are not readily accessible to

women. Political life is organised according to male norms and

values and, in some cases, even male lifestyles. For example, the

political model is based on the idea of winners and losers,

competition and confrontation, rather than mutual respect,
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collaboration and consensus-building. This environment is alien to


Despite the existence of formal commitment towards bringing about

gender equity, many countries are slow to implement substantive

change. Research suggests that in order to bring substantive

difference in political decision-making, a critical mass must be

reached that involves at least 30% to 35% of any women.

Unfortunately, few countries worldwide have achieved this critical

mass at national decision-making levels.

South Africa, however, is an exception in this regard with women

increasingly represented in public life at all levels. Indeed, in

this respect South Africa has taken a proactive stance that has paid

dividends. At the last African Union summit President Thabo Mbeki

actually called for a 50% representation of women, which was well

received by his peers.

Today, through our integration with women in the Great Lakes region

and elsewhere in the world, we are proud that Rwanda is a country

with the highest percentage of women in their parliament in the

world. Their presence is 48% while we stand at 32,8%. We are the

second highest in Africa and number 12 in the world, as has been

mentioned. It must be noted that we are ahead of the United States,

which stands at position 58 in the whole world, and the United

Kingdom, which is at position 48. [Applause.]
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However, it must be borne in mind that empowering women entails more

than merely enabling some women to become leaders. True gender

equity entails addressing the needs of women as a whole. Thus, not

only should more women have access to power but also women leaders

should have access to sufficient resources to enable them to

participate in decision-making for this government, whether at

local, regional and national or international levels.

We cannot march on one leg or clap with one hand. Recognising our

shared oppression, women are committed to seizing this historic

moment to ensure effective equality in a new South Africa, in Africa

and the world.

For decades patriarchy, colonialism, racism and apartheid have

subordinated and oppressed women within political, economic and

social life. South Africa has ratified several international and

regional legal instruments that set the standards for the

advancement of women. Furthermore, the Constitution of the Republic

of South Africa, Act 108 of 1996, holds the principle of equality as

a central value. Discrimination on a number of grounds, including

race, gender, sexual orientation and disability, is prohibited.

The Convention on the Elimination of All Forms of Discrimination

against Women commonly called Cedaw, is the principal international

legal instrument that sets the standards for the advancement of
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women. Its uniqueness lies in its mandate for the achievement of

substantive equality for women, which requires not only formal legal

equality, but also equality of results.

On Friday, 20 August 2004, as Parliament, we will be launching the

Interparliamentary Union/United Nations handbook for

parliamentarians on the Convention on the Elimination of All Forms

of Discrimination Against Women and its optional protocol. Once

again, thank you for your leadership.

As one who represented this Parliament at the Inter-parliamentary

Union for some time and subsequently got elected as President of the

Co-ordinating Committee of Women Parliamentarians of that body, I

can confirm that the South African background on democracy has

helped a lot at the IPU. It is not only I who worked with these

international bodies, but the SADC Parliamentary Forum was led by

Deputy Minister Xingwana. Many other women on international bodies

ensured that the driving principles of this government are not lost.

To this end, I wish to congratulate Dr Ginwala, Speaker Mbete, and

former chairperson Pandor, for their guidance and leadership at all

these international meetings. Thank you very much. [Applause.]

At the heart of women’s marginalisation is the patriarchal order

that confines women to the domestic arena and reserves for men the

arena where political power and authority reside. Conventionally,

democracy and human rights have been defined and interpreted in
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terms of men’s experiences. Society has been organised and its

institutions structured for the primary benefit of men.

As we approach Beijing plus 10, we are well aware of the steps taken

thus far from the Beijing Platform for Action and Beijing plus 5,

and I quote:

 Equality between women and men is a matter of human rights and a

 condition for social justice, and is also a necessary and

 fundamental mental prerequisite for equality, development and

 peace. A transformed partnership based on equality between women

 and men is a condition for people-centred, sustainable


I want to dedicate this speech to all the mothers, sisters and

children that are here with us today.

Ndiyavuya ukunibona namhlanje, boomama bethu. Ndivuya kakhulu

nokubona abantwana. Ndiza kuthetha ngesiXhosa sam esingasulungekanga

kuyaphi, kodwa ndiqinisekile ukuba siza kuvana. Siyabonga kakhulu

ukubona ukuba le minyaka ilishumi edlulileyo kukho apho ifike khona

yakhe yaguqula impilo yenu, yabonisa ukuba ukuma kwenu nivote

ngomhla wama-24 kuApreli, kwenza ukuba kube kho iinguqu eMzantsi

Afrika. [Kwaqhwatywa.] Siyabonga koomama.
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Bakhona abanye abaza kuthetha emva kwam. Baza kuthetha kakuhle ukuze

nibeve kakuhle. Kodwa nam ndizamile. [Kwahlekwa.] (Translation of

Xhosa paragraph follows.)

I am happy to see you today, our mothers. I am very happy to see

children as well. I am going to speak my language, Xhosa, although

it is not all that good I am sure we will understand each other. We

are very grateful to see that the past ten years have had an impact

in other places and have changed your lives. This shows that the

stand that you took in casting your vote on 24 April brought about

changes in South Africa. [Applause.] We thank the mothers. There are

those who are going to speak after me. They are going to speak well

so that you understand them. But I have tried. [Laughter.]]

Le nkulumo yami ngifuna ukuyethula phambi komama. Ikakhulukazi,

sikhumbula omama abahlale emajele ukuze thina sikhululeke namhlanje.

Sikhumbula omama abangakwazanga ukungcwaba abantwana babo namadoda

abo, abangazi nokuthi bafela kuphi. Konke lokho kwenzeka ukuze mina

nawe namhlanje sibe kule Ndlu enkulu kangaka. (Translation of Zulu

paragraph follows.)

[I would like to deliver my speech in the presence of women. We

remember especially women who spent time in prison for us to be free

today. We remember women who were unable to bury their husbands and

children, who don’t even know where they died. That happened so that

you and I could occupy this big House today.]
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Thirty minutes before I came here, I spoke to one such woman who was

in our jails for some time, Deborah Matshoba. She would have wanted

to be with us here today, but she is unable to travel. [Applause.]

I was very young and naive when I met Deborah Matshoba. She

introduced me to politics while I was a student at the University of

Zululand. Ever since I met her, my life became meaningful. I

discovered how much of life I was leading in a vacuum before I met

her. She was detained under section 10 of the Internal Security Act

in 1976 for five months at what we called Number 4. Two weeks after

her release in February 1977, she was detained at a roadblock in

Vrede en route to Durban and held under section 6 of the Terrorism

Act. If you think that that Act was bad, then you must get the

Afrikaans version of it – artikel 6 van die Wet op Terrorisme.

Just to mention it would actually make you shiver. She was held in

several prisons around the country under solitary confinement. She

asked me to tell women parliamentarians: “You are doing us proud.”

She said I should say to the Ministers that South Africa will never

be the same because you are leading. You will gradually change this

country to a better one. She said we must give you strength through

her message that the struggle still continues. [Applause.]

It was very touching on National Women’s Day this year to see all

the former prisoners of Number 4, including our own Minister
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Brigitte Mabandla who addressed them. She was once detained there.

During all these hardships, women learnt to survive and adapt to new

environments. Sis Deborah said, and I quote:

 There never was a time when she felt as strong as she did when she

 was in prison, tortured and isolated. The stench of urine and

 blood from the blankets somehow also had a sweet scent of freedom.

 She arrived at a point where she could turn pain into pleasure.

 What she knew was that even if death was imminent, victory was



When women gathered in Johannesburg in April 1954 at the founding

conference of the Federation of South African Women, they resolved

as women of South Africa, wives and mothers, working women and

housewives, African, Indian, European and coloureds, that their aim

was to strive for the removal of all laws, regulations, conventions

and customs that discriminate against women and deprive women of

their inherent right to the advantages, responsibilities and

opportunities that society offers to any one section of the


When Hendrik Verwoerd, as Minister of native affairs then, made a

statement two years later that women would carry dompasses as from

the beginning of 1956, he definitely insulted women. In response, a
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women’s antipass movement evolved. We will forever be indebted to

those women.

Ngugi wa Thiongo, in his book titled Grain of Wheat, says this about

Africa, and I quote:

 Still licking the scars of past wrongs perpetrated on her, could

 she not be magnanimous and practise no revenge? Her hand of

 friendship scornfully rejected, her pleas for justice and fair

 play spurned, should she not nonetheless seek to turn enmity into

 amity? Though robbed of her lands, her independence and

 opportunities – this, oddly enough, often in the name of

 civilisation and even Christianity - should she not see her

 destiny as being that of making a distinctive contribution to

 human progress and human relationships with a peculiar new African

 flavour enriched by the diversity of cultures she enjoys, thus

 building on the summits of present human achievement an edifice

 that would be one of the finest tributes?

When I read this, I become happy, knowing that Francis Baart said:

“I will enjoy freedom in my lifetime, I know there will be freedom

in my lifetime.” Today she lies less than 100 km from the Gallagher

Estate, where deliberations on the Pan-African Parliament will take

place. It is with pride that some us reflect on these old people who

gave us what we have today.
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Under the democratically elected government South Africa has signed

and ratified many international and regional instruments that aim to

improve the status of women. In an address to African leaders the

Secretary-General of the United Nations observed: “If you want to

save the African continent, you must save the African women first.”

South Africa is therefore fortunate to have a government that has

gender equality as, amongst other things a fundamental tenet of the

Constitution of the country. Not only has this been backed by a

comprehensive legislative and policy framework, but acceding to

particular regional and international instruments further

demonstrates this commitment. These include the following: Cedaw,

which I alluded to earlier; the Beijing Declaration; the Protocol to

the African Charter on Human and People’s Rights on the Rights of

Women in Africa; the SADC Declaration on Gender and Development; and

the UN Millennium Declaration adopted at the Millennium Summit in

New York.

It is incumbent upon Parliament therefore to monitor government

performance in regard to these areas. In addition, Parliament must

ensure that those instruments that have not been ratified are indeed

ratified nationally. We should also lobby for regional ratification

so that such instruments can come into force.

African women will also be afforded a prominent role in conflict

resolution by being appointed as AU special envoys and
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representatives to trouble spots on the continent. The Pan-African

Women’s Organisation enjoys observer status at the United Nations.

It also has observer status at what is now known as the African


The late president of the ANC, Oliver Tambo, once said, and I quote:

 The liberation of the land of our birth and of all its people will

 materialise as a genuinely popular victory on the basis of the

 involvement of the masses, including the women in their millions

 as a conscious and active part of the anti-sexist, anti-racist and

 anti-colonial democratic movement of South Africa.

One of the fundamental tasks that this process of national

liberation confronts is the liberation of the women of our country

from their triple oppression on the grounds of sex, class and

colour. South African women have always played an active role in the

transition to democracy. They were active in the country’s inclusive

approach to the negotiations prior to 1994, whose peaceful outcome

took the entire global community by surprise.

As such, South Africa championed and participated in peace

initiatives in the Democratic Republic of Congo, Burundi, Rwanda and

Sudan. In addition, the dialogue hosted by the office of the first

lady created a space for women from fellow African states to share

the experiences of South African women during the liberation
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struggle, the ensuing negotiations and the transitional period that

preceded our first democratic elections. These meetings have

benefited both the women of South Africa and their counterparts in

building a strong continental voice, calling for peace as a

fundamental precondition for sustainable development and the

substantive realisation of human rights.

In conclusion, these principles are strongly reflected in the values

that underpin the New Partnership for Africa’s Development, Nepad.

Mindful of our broader commitment to the international community and

its human rights agenda, we wish to place on record our solidarity

with the women of Palestine. We salute our heroines such as Francis

Baart, Helen Joseph, Dorothy Nyembe and many other women of that

generation who today want to look at us as their mirrors. We cannot

betray their struggle.

Amongst us today we have Rita Ndzanga a recipient of the Order of

Luthuli: Silver award. We congratulate you, mama! [Applause.]

Courage can sometimes mean taking a principled yet most difficult

decision, or at times a stand against those you love. Courage is

going deep within and finding your own weaknesses. We have achieved

with the little that we have and we will continue to achieve.

Ngeke siniphoxe bomama. Sizohlala sikule ndlela esikuyo yokuthi

umhlaba wethu ube umhlaba wabo bonke bonke abantu abafuna ukuphila
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kuwo. Sizokwenza zonke izinto enifuna ukuthi sizenze. (Translation

of Zulu paragraph follows.)

[We won’t disappoint you, women. We shall stick to this policy that

our land will always belong to people who wanted to live on it. We

shall do whatever you want us to do.]

Re dire tiro yotlhe e lo batlang re e dire ka bo nontlhotlho,

bonatla le bo ineelo. Re tla dira se ka lorato ka gonne ke lona ba

ba re beileng mo maemong a. Lo dire jalo bagaetsho le ka moso me

lotle ka makatla-namane. Ke a leboga. [Legofi.] (Translation of

Tswana paragraph follows.)

[Doing all the work that you want us to do with great delicacy,

showing courage and commitment. We will do this with love because it

is you who elected us to these positions. Keep it up in this spirit

even in the days to come, turn up in numbers. Thank you.


Ms S V KALYAN: Madam Deputy Speaker, being a woman in South Africa

during the month of August is really great, because women’s issues

are highlighted, more so especially because historically women are

the second most disadvantaged group in South Africa. It is a month

when the commitments, achievements and contributions of women are

acknowledged by means of politically correct rhetoric, and accolades
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are accorded to the patient, caring, strong and long-suffering women

who make up the backbone of South African society.

While the concept of celebrating a women’s month is a good one, the

question that begs an answer is why cannot women’s issues be

highlighted every month, and indeed every day? Do we as a group not

exist for the other 11 months of the year? Are women’s issues not as

important for the other 11 months of the year, or are the problems

of South African women so burdensome that they can only be dealt

with in one large dose during the month of August?

South Africa has a wonderful Constitution. It is nonsexist by its

very nature, and takes a strong stand on discrimination. Section 9

in the Bill of Rights in the Constitution categorically forbids any

person from unfairly discriminating against anyone on one or more

grounds, including gender, sex and sexual orientation. While we have

some very good pieces of legislation protecting women, such as the

Domestic Violence Act and the Choice on Termination of Pregnancy

Act, it is my considered opinion that the legislation fails women in

the implementation stage. This is evidenced by the increase in

sexual assaults on women and a poor prosecution rate of the

perpetrators. Research has also indicated that every six minutes a

woman is killed by her partner.

Gender deconstruction is the key to the real emancipation of women,

but are we doing enough? A recent study done in KwaZulu-Natal on
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adolescents between the ages of 16 and 18, both male and female,

from middle-class and working-class environments, indicates that not

enough is being done to dispel the stereotypes on the gender issue.

All the respondents in the study stated that South Africa can only

be led by a man, and that women are not up to the task.

With regard to domestic power, male respondents were adamant that

men should have more say in the house, that women were suitable only

for childrearing, and that they would not allow their wives to

undermine them. The study also confirmed the stereotypes in respect

of careers. One only has to judge the reaction of male passengers on

an aeroplane when the pilot is a woman. Many men make weak jokes

about whether she knows what she is doing.

We have come a long way, and South Africa is a society in

transition. We are facing a huge crisis in respect of the Aids

pandemic. The seesaw attitude of whether or not to provide

antiretrovirals, the unintended consequences of child-headed

households and sacrifices by the eldest girl-child are regrettably

not cause for celebration.

In celebrating our decade of freedom, let us acknowledge that lots

of work needs to be done to deliberately recondition the stereotypes

that hinder the true emancipation of women in South Africa.

Unfortunately the reality is that biology is still the determining

factor in deciding a woman’s role and status in society. Let’s seek
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collectively to heal the damage caused by gender abuse, and to

integrate both sides of the gender divide in a spirited and holistic

manner. Only then can we say that women have been totally

emancipated and are free to be. [Applause.]

The MINISTER OF HOME AFFAIRS: Madam Speaker, Deputy Speaker, hon

members, dear friends ...

... bomama nabantwana abaphaya e-gallery, siyanibulisa namhlanje.

[... mothers and children in the gallery, we greet you today.]

On this day 22 years ago, a gallant fighter, a selfless

revolutionary, a patriot, a mother, an intellectual, a leader of the

workers and a daughter of South Africa was killed by a bomb, leaving

her husband and children to continue the fight for freedom for all

the people of South Africa. Her name is Ruth First, wife to Joe

Slovo. I want to dedicate my speech to her memory today, and many

other women like her, who could not reap the fruits of our freedom.


I also want to thank Comrade Rob for reminding me, for as I walked

in he quickly came over to me and said: “Do you remember that 22

years ago Comrade Ruth First was assassinated?” I really want to

thank you, comrade, for that beautiful gesture.
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I am indeed grateful that once again Parliament has made time for us

to have this debate here in the National Assembly. I believe the

issue of our honest assessment of our own contribution to women’s

empowerment will continue to occupy our minds for quite some time,

for as long as we have not reached the point where all

discrimination against women has been addressed, our society will

continue to be confronted with this matter.

We have correctly provided an analysis of the experience of the

majority of South African women as that of triple oppression, and

pointed out that there has been a real linkage between the object of

our dual struggle for national liberation on the one hand, and on

the other, the specific removal of all forms of oppression against

women. The political objective needs to be contextualised when it

comes to the struggle of women, because not only were women facing

national oppression as black women, or disadvantaged by their class

position as part of the poor and the working class, but also

because, additional to this, they were black.

Correctly so, therefore, this should be the premise on and context

in which any discussion on the progress we have made thus far and

the resultant changes should be based; and our engagement on the

issue of women’s empowerment should be holistic in so far as it does

justice to addressing all of these forms of oppression experienced

by these women.
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In addition, we should emphasise the overarching intent that the

emancipation of all our women, black and white, is a necessary

precondition for the building of a truly nonsexist, nonracial

society and for its development.

Two weeks ago we celebrated the 48th anniversary of our National

Women’s Day. As part of his address to the many South African women

who gathered there, our President reminded us that last year the

African Union had adopted a Protocol to the African Charter on Human

and People’s Rights on the Rights of Women in Africa. In reference

to this epoch-making adoption, he had this to say, and I quote:

 This is important because the protocol addresses the central

 challenge of the emancipation of African women and goes beyond the

 simple recognition of the rights of women, but enjoins all

 Africans actively to remove all forms of gender discrimination,

 integrating the gender perspective in policy decisions,

 legislation, development plans, programmes and activities, and

 demands that corrective and positive action should be taken in

 those areas where discrimination against women continues to exist.

He also said:

 We need to work together as social formations and government in

 collaboration with others in our sister countries to ensure that

 we implement this important protocol.
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This is where I thought we needed to start today. In the past few

weeks since we officially launched the month of women, we’ve said a

lot in answering the question as to why South African women should

celebrate our 10 years of freedom in our country. We’ve even done a

lot of celebrating ourselves. Let us rather take some time to look

at what needs to happen when the dust has settled. When the month of

women comes to an end, what challenges will remain for us, for the

women of our country, for our society as a whole?

The President said that the charter demands from all of us that

corrective and positive action be taken in those areas in which

discrimination against women continues to exist, and that hon

members define clearly the depth of the challenge we still face.

So, within this general directive and with the advent of many gains

we have already registered during the first decade of freedom, what

is it that we want women to look back on after the completion of the

next decade? I believe much still needs to be done by way of

consolidating the current gains, because the reality is that where

we have provided electricity there are still many who have not

benefited. Many still await their first water tap, even if it is

just a communal one.

There are millions of women who could have benefited from the

current changes introduced by this government, including in the area
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of protection, but cannot do so because they do not have much

information about what they are now entitled to. So all these good

things we have done, including changes in legislation, will never

have any meaning for or impact on the lives of these women unless

they are made aware of such benefits. The immediate challenge

therefore is for us to communicate more on some of the benefits that

have become available to women as a result of this democracy.

Inyani, bomama, kukuba zininzi izinto esizenzileyo. Mininzi

iMithetho esithe sayiphumeza apha ePalamente, efana nemithetho ethi

ootata abanalo ilungelo lokusibetha, kodwa ingxaki kukuba oomama

abakazazi iimfanelo zabo. Siphumeze imithetho yokuba ootata

bangasibethi, kodwa oomama basabakhusela ootata ngoba abakawazi

amalungelo abo.

Laa mthetho ungesondlo sabantwana uthi utata akenzi mntwana ze kodwa

amshiye, wenza umntwana ze amondle de afikelele kwixabiso lokuba abe

nokuzimela. [Kwaqhwatywa.] Yaphela loo nto. Kambe oomama abakayazi

into yokuba xa utata engamondli umntwana kufanele ukuba bahambe baye

kumbamba utata lowo. Lilungelo lomntwana ukuba ondliwe. Ngamalungelo

ke lawo bomama esithe sawalwela, sade saphumeza nomthetho

wokunikhusela.(Translation of Xhosa paragraphs follows.)

[The truth, mothers, is that there are lots of things that we have

done. There are many Acts that we have promulgated in Parliament,

such as those that state that men do not have a right to assault us.
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But the problem is that women are not aware of their rights yet. We

have promulgated an Act to the effect that men must not assault us,

but women are still protecting men because they do not know their


The Child Maintenance Act stipulates that the father does not simply

father a child and then leave him. You father the child and maintain

him until he reaches a stage where he can support himself.

[Applause.] That is the past. But women still do not know that when

a man is not maintaining the child she is supposed to go and lay a

charge of failure to comply with maintenance against that man. These

are the rights that we fought for for mothers. We even promulgated

the Protection Order Act.]

Despite the challenges we face with regard to the consolidation of

the current gains, there are many other challenges that, as a

country, we need to address in advancing the cause of women’s

empowerment. I say “as a country”, because these are challenges for

all of us. Yes, some of them have to be addressed by government, but

there’s a lot of space for all of us to play a role, and many roles

we can play in reversing the social impediments which disempower


We’ve received a lot of praise when it comes to the recognition of

the role of women in leadership - I do not think we are doing badly

in this area – and, as we have said many times from this podium and
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from other platforms, we should really recognise and appreciate the

foresight of the ANC-led government in championing this cause.

However, we can do even better.

There’s going to be a need for us as a country to invest even more

in the education of the girl-child, to prepare them to play a

meaningful role in the leadership of their country, not as

recipients of some favour but in their own right and not on the

merit of their capacity.

In this way we would be creating a pool in numbers to draw from when

we intensify this programme of recognising the role of women in

leadership. The quota system, in which women represent slightly over

a third of leadership in our public institutions, should be

recognised as a temporary corrective tool and cannot be permanent.

The deliberate investment in the development of the girl-child

should be our focus towards a more permanent solution. We’ve raised

on several occasions the matter of building a unity of purpose for

women in our country. The challenge in this regard has been the need

to build a united women’s movement as a platform for all women

across the political spectrum to engage each other on issues of

women’s empowerment.

We really believe that our country needs a social movement whose

minimum agenda is consensus-building across various issues facing
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our women. Of course, this is a decision that we took some time ago,

and we’ll still be able to report to the nation at a later stage on

the progress that has been registered in this regard. We believe

that the dialogue that is being led by Mrs Mbeki can be used

effectively as a springboard to move towards that direction.

Perhaps the most important of the challenges that our society faces

during the second decade of freedom will be to ensure that women are

empowered and are able to make a meaningful contribution to the life

of the economy of our country. In this regard we need to emphasise

our investment in the skills development and training of women to

gain access to employment and entrepreneurial opportunities.

As the President said, it is important that this process must not

only benefit a thin stratum of successful women, but women as a

whole, including the poorest of the most disadvantaged in urban and

rural areas.

There are many other specific challenges that will form part of the

debate, including addressing such issues as housing, rural and urban

development, gender in the workplace, violence, domestic abuse and

the protection of our children. I’m happy that there are specific

speakers who will pay adequate attention to these issues.

I do, however, feel the need to raise one matter, which politically

poses even greater challenges to our ability to explore the economic
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potential buried on our continent. We need to look at what it is

that South African women can do to alleviate the situation of women

on our continent and to strengthen some of the efforts that have

already been initiated.

Many women in Africa have continued to witness the horror of war and

its consequences for human development, and how those who harboured

great amounts of greed have plunged our continent into an abyss of

blood and forced women and children to flee into the wilderness and

become refugees who are vulnerable to secondary suffering, such as

rape and dehumanisation.

In the end, we should always remember this, that for as long as wars

continue to ravage our continent, destroy precious vegetation,

threaten the potential for economic and human development, so can we

also forget about real emancipation of women taking firm root

anywhere on this continent.

At the end of this debate, it should be possible for all of us to

recommit ourselves and the public to serving to give more of our

energies towards the resolution of the question of women’s

oppression, because in doing so we will be giving the real

development of humanity a much greater boost.

Because I’m still left with one minute I am happy to report on the

campaign we launched two weeks ago calling on women to verify their
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marital status. We were receiving an average of 78 or 79 women per

day before we launched the campaign, and that number has since

doubled. I would like to tell you that a number of the women who

came forward discovered that, indeed, their marital status reflected

in our records was wrong or, indeed, some of the single women

painfully discovered that they were wrongfully married to people

they had never met.

Therefore, I want to urge all of us to encourage as many women as

possible to come forward and continue, even beyond August, to verify

their marital status. It is not correct that single women are

married to men they have never met before. It is exploitation,

particularly because, in the main, most of the women who are victims

are women who are the poorest of the poor, who are vulnerable and

who live in shacks. When they went to look for jobs their identity

documents were taken away from them, and that is how they became

married to people they had never met.

We also encourage women who are married in customary marriages to

come forward and register their marriages, so that the law can

protect them. [Applause.]

Oomama mabeze ngaphambili baze kubhalisa imitshato yasemakhaya ukuze

umthetho ubakhusele. [Women should come forward and register

customary marriages so that the law can protect them.]
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We’ve seen a number of women quietly coming forward to register

their marriages, so that they can be protected. Please, let us

encourage as many women as possible to do that. I thank you. [Time

expired.] [Applause.]

Dr M G BUTHELEZI: Madam Speaker, women are the backbone of South

Africa. They are that in any country anyway. Today, as a Parliament

we salute and say thank you to the women of all families and

communities in our nation.

In the past we have rightly celebrated the important role that women

have fulfilled in our struggle for liberation. We have also

highlighted the unfinished agenda of the liberation of women from

all forms of oppression and sexism which continue to flourish within

our families, at our workplaces, in communities and society.

We must strive to narrow the gap between the paper rights of women

codified in the Constitution and the real lives that women lead. The

grim reality is that abject poverty affects women worse because they

bear the responsibility of raising families and are often the sole


The shocking truth is that physical and sexual violence against

women have climbed steadily since the advent of democracy. The

contribution of women to our struggle for liberation and the
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unfinished agenda of women’s liberation will rightly remain high on

our agenda until the work is complete.

This year, however, I think we must talk about and rightly celebrate

the many women who are at the frontline of the war, who are involved

in it and are bearing its full brunt. Our people are dying by the

hundreds of thousands because of HIV/Aids. Millions of South

Africans are now directly or indirectly affected by this terrible

pandemic – a horrific pandemic that is spreading death, destruction

and suffering on a scale that exceeds by far the toll of many of the

past wars experienced in our land.

If this Parliament were to rise to the responsibility we bear, we

would hold weekly discussions about the war on HIV/Aids until we can

master the capacity of giving to this war the leadership so

desperately needed. Unlike in the case of any other war fought

before, women are at the frontline both in terms of the contribution

which is required of them to win the war, as well as in respect of

the casualties of death and suffering which this war is imposing.

Women are dying of HIV/Aids. The infection rate for girls is six

times that for boys. Two and a half times more young women in South

Africa are infected than their male contemporaries.

Mothers are burying their children and are required to have

fathomless amounts of energy and strength. They have to hold
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together families ravaged by HIV/Aids - mothers of children born

with HIV/Aids, wives and partners of those affected by it. Women are

also victims of that which is going wrong in our war against

HIV/Aids, such as the inertia in smashing the collective madness

flowing from the absurd notion that by raping a virgin one could be

cured of HIV/Aids.

As all of you are aware, in the past two and a half months I have

buried two of my own children because of HIV/Aids. They were two

wonderful children who lived ordinary lives like millions of other

South Africans. Like many other South Africans, through no fault of

their own, they fell victim to this pandemic.

As I remember them, I must pay tribute to my wife, Irene Thandekile

Mzila Buthelezi, who has endured the pain and suffering of a depth

that those who have not been in her position cannot even begin to

comprehend. I pay tribute to my wife, because in so doing I today

pay tribute to all the mothers of South Africa who had to bury their

children prematurely or who are struggling with children who are

infected or affected by HIV/Aids.

It is only during times of war that parents bury their children as

often as we do and that so much mourning and funerals characterise

our lives. Like in many wars before, we have cried for our dead for

so long that our tears have run dry. Now we need to muster the
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courage to transcend our pain and come together as a nation to end

this nightmare.

We have all dreamt of a free, nonracist and nonsexist nation. If we

are honest with ourselves, we must accept that our nation is still

far from being free, nonracist and nonsexist. In an absurd and

paradoxical manner the HIV/Aids pandemic is the great equaliser that

is killing our people irrespective of race, social class or gender.

Only the most naive can continue to believe that they are not going

to be directly or indirectly affected by HIV/Aids because of its

alleged limitation to the poorer reaches of our nation or those of a

particular sexual orientation. HIV/Aids has placed me on my knees

and destroyed my family in spite of the lifestyle stringently

maintained by my wife and I and the social status we enjoy.

Throughout history nations have been forged into unity because their

people have fought together in great wars, side by side and shoulder

to shoulder. We hoped that the struggle for liberation would bring

together all South Africans and build us into a single nation. We

have achieved much in this most noble of endeavours, yet in spite of

our nation-building efforts we all know that we are far from having

created a united South African nation.

The war against HIV/Aids provides such an opportunity, painful as it

is. We are dealing with an enemy which pays no attention to the
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considerations that too often divide us, be it our different

political homes, our particular race, ethnicity, social status,

gender or sexual orientation. Our nation will either be forged into

unity or forever destroyed, depending on how we respond to the war

against HIV/Aids.

Like any other war in which the survival of a nation is at stake,

victory or defeat depends on the calibre of leadership which a

nation can muster. Until now the leadership on the war against

HIV/Aids has been disastrous and has compounded the problem. Similar

leadership provided in respect of a war against an external enemy

would cause people openly to talk about treason and collusion with

the invader. The people of South Africa have been equally betrayed

by a leadership that has not made HIV/Aids a national emergency and

the absolute priority that it is. We, the top leadership of South

Africa, have not done so.

HIV/Aids, crime, unemployment and poverty are killing our people and

tearing our nation asunder. They should be dealt with as national

crises, which receive the fullest attention in the engagement of

government and an overwhelming allocation of public spending. Some

of my colleagues may regard my making such statements as

inappropriate on such an occasion, but I know that this is a

paradigm shift that this Parliament needs to bring about. Whether we

talk about women, transportation or banking, we need to do so within

the context of addressing these three national emergencies.
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Women are suffering more than anyone else in our society because of

unemployment, poverty and crime. Women are targets of crime to a

much greater extent than their male counterparts. They fall prey to

crimes perpetrated against them such as rape, family abuse and

different forms of discrimination at the workplace and in their

communities. Women face the full brunt of the ever-rising

unemployment and ensuing poverty. They are the first to be

retrenched and they are more often unemployed than their male

counterparts, in spite of often being more reliable than men.

In my long-standing experience in government, especially when I was

the Chief Minister of the erstwhile KwaZulu government, I noticed

time and again that one could rely on female public servants more

than male public servants to get the work done. It is obvious to me

that because the survival of the species depends on women’s

reliability in attending to the needs of the newborn and raising it

to adulthood and independence, God has made them more giving, more

reliable and more enduring. Yet they are still less employed than

their male counterparts, which shows the bias in our society that

still runs deep.

If on this occasion we are genuine in our desire to celebrate the

women of South Africa beyond just lip service, this Parliament must

resolve to bring about far-reaching changes to the policies and

leadership with which HIV/Aids, crime, unemployment and poverty
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until now has been handled. It is essential that we as a legislature

begin to provide leadership to address the weaknesses and public

policy failings of the executive by fighting this war, by rising to

these challenges and by pulling together in the trenches, shoulder

to shoulder. We shall not only overcome, we will succeed in forging

a new nation, reborn and free from the legacy of the past and at

ease with itself.

In a very special and unique way this Parliament is the fulcrum,

indeed the people’s cabinet if you will, of our nation. In view of

the gravity of the emergency of HIV/Aids, particularly in the lives

of women and children, I suggest that we convene at least one day a

month for a dedicated session to deliberate upon the progress that

the executive and we as parliamentarians are making in our nation

and community in the fight against HIV/Aids. We would then report

back to the nation. Is this not the very essence of parliamentary

democracy? I believe such a lead from the people’s Parliament could

play a decisive if not determining role in winning the people’s war.

Now is the time for action and not words. And I know it can be done.

As I mentioned at this podium before, I was lucky to attend the SA

Christian Leadership Council in Pretoria in July last year, where

the first lady of Uganda addressed us. She said that in Uganda they

have reduced the incidence of HIV/Aids from 30% to 5%, which she

said even then was still too high. She quoted a speech made by her

husband in Italy in which he discussed HIV/Aids, where his
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Excellency Yoweri Museveni said that if we rely only on a piece of

rubber to stand between us and our salvation, then we are already

doomed. And I am not saying that we should not actually publicise

condoms, but I don’t think that we should think that once we have

mentioned condoms we have completed our job. Action speaks louder

than words. We can speak until we are blue in our faces, but I mean

if Uganda can do it, we can do it too. Let us make a start today. I

thank you, colleagues. [Applause.]

Ms N M MDAKA: Madam Speaker, Deputy Speaker and hon members, I greet

you all in this House. This debate is aptly named, because it calls

for celebration whilst also acknowledging that we are still moving

towards total freedom. Women have indeed much reason to celebrate a

decade   of    democracy.   This    decade    has   seen    the   establishment   of

specific measures to improve the lives of women, especially in terms

of legal protection. Women can celebrate the advances made in the

past 10 years.

First among these pro-women laws is surely the Constitution with its

wide   array    of   enshrined     rights    guaranteeing    women   equality     and

dignity. On this foundation a legal framework has been built to

protect women from abuse and domestic violence. The legal framework

provides for maternal health care and access to equal employment

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There is, in fact, a long list of laws and legal provisions that aim

to protect and promote the rights and aspirations of women. Perhaps

then we should say that South African women have attained legal

freedom, but not necessarily practical freedom. In this regard, I do

not believe that we can separate the challenges facing women from

the challenges facing the nation as a whole.

It is, however, a sad fact that for nearly every major challenge

facing     the   country,   women   bear   a   significant   amount   of   the

suffering. The vast majority of the jobless are women. Similarly,

poverty in rural and urban areas is the domain of many women. When

it comes to crime, tens of thousands of women are raped, murdered,

assaulted and abused every single year.

As far as equity in the workplace is concerned, women continue to

lag behind in managerial appointments. Only 24% of all managerial

positions in the Public Service are filled by women, despite the

fact that the Minister for the Public Service and Administration is

a woman.

When it comes to HIV and Aids, statistics show that nearly 60% of

those infected are women. Therefore it is clear that women should be

in the vanguard of addressing all the major challenges facing this

country. The challenges facing women are no longer just legislative,

but administrative too. The laws are there and it is now time to

ensure that they are being implemented. Surely this Parliament has a
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duty to do this, to help the women of South Africa to make the leap

from legal freedom to practical freedom?

Allow me to give an example of the economic potential of women in

terms of unemployment and poverty being such pressing challenges.

Recently, Business Day ran a very short article about a Mrs Rose

Opperman, whom they described as a granny. She is from Vryheid in

KwaZulu-Natal and she specialises in homemade confectionery. Your

first reaction might be that she, like many enterprising women in

the country, is making some additional money through her skills in

the kitchen. Many people would automatically expect it to be a part-

time small business that supplements her household budget.

However, Business Day reports that she employs 129 women and that

every month they produce 800kg of Turkish delight, two tons of fudge

and seven tons of nougat. All of it is handmade. The only other

detail in the article is that Mrs Opperman started just four years

ago and is now planning to export her products. The article does not

say - and neither do I know - whether this woman and her staff have

received any training. I do not know whether she had assistance with

developing a business plan. I thank you. [Time expired.] [Applause.]

Mrs R A NDZANGA: Chairperson, hon Ministers, Deputy Speaker and

colleagues, women in our country have a proud tradition of voicing

their anger in the form of protest against unjust and discriminatory

laws.   Given   the   South   African   history   of   severe   political
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oppression, it is not surprising that the main purpose of women’s

associations   was   to   mobilise    women    to   become   active   in   issues

affecting women in general.

Njengomama, ndiya kuba andiwenzi umsebenzi wam ukuba andithethi

ngooma abafana noMama uViola Hashe, owayengunobhala we-Government

Workers’ Union ngamaxesha oo-1960; uMama uMabel Balfour

owayengumququzeleli wombutho i-Food and Canning eTransvala kwangelo

xesha; uMama uShanti Naidoo nentombazana ekwakusithiwa nguNondwe

Mankahlana ndiza kuphinda ndibuyela kubo. (Translation of Xhosa

paragraph follows.)

[As a mother, I would be failing if I did not talk of women like Ms

Viola Hashe, who was the secretary of the Government Worker’s Union

in the 1960s; Ms Mabel Balfour, who was the organiser of the

Transvaal branch of the Food and Canning Association during those

times; Ms Shanti Naidoo, and also the girl called Nondwe Mankahlana.

I will come back to them.]

As August is the month of women, I would be failing here if I did

not mention the evil of forced removals during the apartheid regime.

I was a victim of forced removals.

Ngexesha lokufuduswa ngetshova kwabantu abona bantu beva ubuhlungu

kakhulu ngabantu abangoomama. Babethathwa baphoswe ngaphezulu

kwizigadla zikarhulumente wocalucalulo. [During the forced removals,
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women suffered the most. They would be forcibly loaded into the

apartheid government trucks.]

Fa re bua ka go fudusiwa ka dikgoka, Bakwena ba Mogopa, ke sekao sa

batho ba bangwe ba ba ntshitsweng kwa dikgoka kwa lefatsheng la

bona. Ba na le diheketara tse 8000 tsa lefatshe. Lefatshe la bona,

la ne la tsewa mme la fiwa maburu a le mabedi gore a fudise dikgomo

tsa bona ntswa batho ba fetotswe bao ba tlhokang magae.

Batho ba tsewa ba latlhelwa kgakala gaufi le molelwane wa Botswana

kwa lefelong le le bidiwang Pagsdraai. Fa o re o a lelebela, mmu wa

kwa teng ke motlhaba o o fisang moo o ka fisang le matlho. Puso ya

tlhaolele e ne e batla gore re tshele jalo re le batho ba bantsho.

Ba ne ba na le metsi a a phepa. Ba ne ba lema. Ba na le masimo. Ba

kotula mabele, dinawa, le mmopo mo lefatsheng la bona. Fela gore

maburu a fitlhe, a ne a fepa dikgomo mme a se na nako le batho.

Botlhoko jwa go fudusiwa ka dikgoka ka nako ya tlhaolele, ga bo

felele foo. Fa re fitlha mo bathong ba bagolo, ga ba nne nako e

telele. Ba a lwala. Ba bangwe ga ba nne, ba a feta ka ntlha ya

dipelo tsa bona tse di botlhoko ba gopotse magae a bona.(Translation

of Tswana paragraphs follows.)

[When we talk about forced removals, we can give an example by

referring to the tribe called Bokwena ba Mogopa, a tribe that    was
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forcefully removed from their land, where they owned 8 000 hectares

of land. Their land was taken and given to the two whites who drove

their cattle, and people were left homeless.

People were taken and thrown far towards the Botswana border at a

place called Pagsdraai. When looking at the soil of that place, it

is sandy and hot to the extent of burning ones eyes.

They used to have fresh water and engaged in farming, owning

ploughed fields, harvesting crops, beans, and mealies from their

land. Immediately after the arrival of the whites it was cattle only

that were fed, and people were left stranded.

The pain of being removed forcefully from the land during the

apartheid era was still far from an end. When we look at the senior

citizens, we see that they do not live for a long time, and some of

them passed away due to the pain caused when longing for their


During the forced removals, communities did not only have their

homes destroyed. They also had their cattle, sheep and chickens

taken from them because they had to leave them behind, and there are

some people who until now still do not have them.

Fa go tla dikiletso kgotsa bannings ka bo1990, ditlhopho tsa 1994 di

ne tsa tlisa tshepo mo bathong. Batho ba nna le tshepo ya gore
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mafatshe a bona a tla boa. Ke nnete, bao ba neng ba nna le tshepo ba

ne ba bona mafatshe a bona. Fela go ne go ntse go na le bao ba

senang tshepo.

Ba ba neng ba lebile ba re ‘lekgoa o tla le dira eng’ e bile ba re

‘lekgoa   le   legolo’.   Fela    gompieno,     ke    bona   ba   ba   tabogileng   fa

morago ga batho ba ba setseng ba ntse mo magaeng ba batla go ba

senyetsa. Seo ba tshwanetseng go se itse ke gore fa ANC e tsenya

batho mo mafatsheng, ga e ba beye fela, e ba baya ba na le tsela ya

go itshedisa. Fa ba lema ba tla lema gore ba tle ba bone botshelo

jwa bona jwa kgale.

Go tloga ka 1948 go fitlha go 1960 ke nako e re neng re kopanya

bomme.    Re   agile   makgotla   a   rona    ka     fa   tlase   ga   South   African

Federation of Women. Ga fitlha ditlhopho ka 1948 tseo di neng tsa re

tlisetsa mathata a le mantsi jaaka molao wa influx control.

Molao o wa influx control o ne o re fa o le motho wa kwa KwaZulu-

Natal ga o a tshwanela go ya kwa Gauteng. Fa o le motho wa kwa

Transkei ga o a tshwanela go ya kwa Gauteng. Fela bomme ba ne ba

lwantsha molao o. Ke koo ke kopaneng le bomme ba tshwana le Mary

Moodley, Rose Slagter, boWynberg le boMolly Anderson.

Ke rile ke tla boela mo go Nondwe le Shanti. Shanti le Nondwe ke

basetsana ba e leng gore ka nako e re neng re tshwerwe ka yona, re
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tswaletse, ba ne ba laelwa go nna dipaki tsa puso ya tlhaolele.

Kgetse ya rona e ne e bidiwa, State versus 21.

Ka nako eo, go ne go twe re batla go menola puso ka dikgoka, ke sa

itseng gore ke dikgoka tse re di tsayang kae. Fela bomme ba babedi

ba, ba sa ntse ba le bannye, ba gana go ema le go supa batho

bagaabo. Ba araba ka gore…(Translation of Tswana paragraphs


[Around 1990 was the time when bannings were put in place, but the

1994 elections gave hope to the people. They believed that their

land was to be given back. It is true that those who believed

managed to see their land given back, but still there were those who

never believed.

There were those who just watched, saying, “What can you do to a

white man?”,   and further saying that the white man is the master.

But today the same people chase around those who are at home trying

to destroy their belongings. What they must know is the fact that

the ANC allocates land,   and does not just give land; it gives both

land and a way of making a source of income. When they are farmers

they are given that opportunity to farm to enable them to live the

same life as they used to live.

The years 1948-1960 were the ones in which we as the women united.

We built our committee under the South African Federation of Women.
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The 1948 election started many problems, problems such as the Influx

Control Act.

This Influx Control Act stipulates that if you are from Kwazulu-

Natal you are not allowed to be in Gauteng; if you are from Transkei

you are not allowed in Gauteng. But women fought against that Act.

That was where I met women such as Mary Moodley, Rose Slagter

Wynberg, Molly Anderson and others.

I said I would come back to Nodwe and Shanti. These are girls who

were ordered by the apartheid government to be state witnesses at a

time when we were in custody; that case was named State versus 21.

At the time it was said that we intended overthrowing the government

forcefully. I did not know what force they were referring to, but

these two ladies, who were still very young at that time, refused to

stand and point at us. They answered by saying ...]

... we are not prepared to give evidence against our people.

Ba ne ba latlhelwa mo kgolegelong dikgwedi tse tharo. Ba ne ba

bodiwa gore a ba sa ntse ba ikemiseditse go sa bue, mme ba re ga ba

ikemisetsa go bua, mme ba ba latlhela gape dikgwedi tse dingwe tse

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Pele ke nna fa fatshe, go na le mme o ne a bidiwa mme Mvhemvhe. Ga

ke mo lebale. Mme Mvhemvhe o ne a pateletswa ke mapodisi a lekala le

le kgethegileng kgotsa special branch gore a bue gore ngwana wa

gagwe o kae. A gana go bua. Ba ne ba mmogisa mme a nna a gana go bua

gore ngwana wa gagwe o kae. Ba feleletsa ba tsere rre Mvhemvhe go mo

tswalela mme ba feleletsa ba sa itse gore rre Mvhemvhe o feletse

kae. Ke ka nako eo dilo di neng di le thata, ka nako ya tlhaolele.

Fela gompieno, tshepo e ke neng ke bua ka yona ke re bomme ba ntse

ba na le yona gore ba tla bona mafatshe a bona, ke nnete bomme ba

bone mafatshe a bona. Ba boetse mo matlong a bona. Ba a lema. Ba a

dira. Ba agile dikolo. Ba agile dikheretšhe.

Ke a le kopa Ditona, tsamayang le ye kwa Mogopa. Le ye go bona seo

le thusitseng setšhaba ka sona, mme le bone gore batho ba kwa Mogopa

ba simolotse ka tsela e e jang, le ka moo ba thusitsweng ka teng ke

puso ya rona le puso ya ANC. Gompieno ba tswelela pele. Ke a leboga.

Ke leboga gape le Moporesidente wa rona mme Nqakula. O sa ntse e le

mosetsana   yo   monnye   fela   ditiro   tsa   gagwe   di   bontsha   bogolo.

[Legofi.] Ke a leboga fa re bone mme a tshwana le mme Nqakula ka

tsela e e jaana. E kete re ka nna le ditlogolwana tse dingwe, bomme

Nqakulanyana ba bannye, ba ba ka tswanang le ene mo lefatsheleng le

la rona la Afrika Borwa gore botshelo jwa rona bo tle go fetoge, bo

ye pele, e bile re tswelele pele.
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Tshepo e a thusa. Go botoka go nna o na le tshepo go na le go nna mo

lefifing, ka gonne, fa o tshepile tshepo ya gago e tla go tswela

molemo. Tshepo ya gago e tla go tswela mosola. Fela fa o lebeletse

gore Mangope e ne e le ene morena a busa, e bile Mandela kgotsa

Moporesidente Mbeki a ka se etse sepe, o latlhegile. O latlhegile.

Ga re bana ba rona ba latlhega. Bana ba rona a ba nne le tshepo. Ba

a bona gompieno gore lekgotla la rona le dira ka tsela efe. Re a

dira bomme. Kgwedi eno ya Phatwe ga se e e simolotseng fela. [Nako e


Ke a leboga modulasetilo. [Legofi.] Bagaetsho, a pula e ne! Pula!

(Translation of Tswana paragraphs follows.)

[They were sentenced to three years imprisonment. They were asked

again whether they still intended to remain silent; they confirmed

this and they were sentenced to a further three years.

I would like to speak about a lady called Mrs Mvhembe before I go

back to my seat; I cannot forget that woman. The police from the

Special Branch forced her to give information about the whereabouts

of her son. When she refused, they tortured her and when she did not

tell, they ended up taking Mr Mvhembe and locking him in custody,,

but ultimately they could not account for his whereabouts. It was

during those days of apartheid when it was still tough.
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But today I spoke about women who believed that they would get their

land back, so that they could get back into their homes. They are

farmers, they are from the working class, and they build schools and


I am making a request to the Minister that she should go to Mogopa

to see how much help was given to the people and to see how the

residents paved the way and the way in which our government helped -

that is the ANC Government – so that today they prosper. I thank


I would like to thank our President, Mrs Nqakula. She is still a

young girl but her work shows signs of maturity. [Applause.]   I am

so thankful to find a lady such as Mrs Nqakula in this manner. I

wish we had other grandchildren like the young Nqakula - those who

would be like her in our country, South Africa, so that our lives

could be transformed, enabling us to look ahead and to have

advancement in life.

It is better to be hopeful than to be in the dark, because if you

believe in a thing the result will be positive. But if you can

forget and place Mangope as a ruler who knew how to govern, and

misguide yourself by saying that Mandela or President Mbeki would

not perform, know that you are lost. You are lost.
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Our children are lost. They don’t believe. They could see the manner

in which our committee is committed. We women we are committed. This

month, July, is not a month that just started. [Time expired.]

Thank you, Chairperson. [Applause.] People, let peace be with you!

Thank you!]

Mr L W GREYLING: Chairperson, you may well ask why a man is

delivering this speech today. Here are a few reasons: Our party

leader, Patricia de Lille, is busy taking Parliament to the people

and is currently delivering another speech on the role of women in

conflict resolution. The other reason is that the ID strives to be

different and we like to bring another perspective to these

parliamentary debates.

However, the most important reason is that we believe that it should

not only be women who should celebrate this month, but men as well.

Men should take this time to reflect on the enormous role that women

played in delivering our democracy, and continue to play in

deepening it. I am delivering this speech today as a man because I

believe that the gender divide in this country, and for that matter

the world, needs to be bridged urgently.

All too often issues that affect women are marginalised by being

confined to the women’s sector. Many men do not believe that these

issues concern them. Issues around the abuse of women and sexual
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violence will only be eradicated when men change their indifferent

attitudes. Men need to understand that women and children are to be

protected and loved, and never to be abused.

Every year we quote the alarming statistics surrounding rape and

abuse as if this is magically going to change the situation. It is

an unfortunate reality that the Government cannot legislate

individual attitudes. Change can only be achieved through both men

and women openly and honestly communicating their feelings about

their attitudes and actions that perpetuate this situation. The ID

intends providing such forums so that we can truly bridge this

gender divide.

Attitudes are formed by the society in which we live. Our society is

currently formed around the primary interests of men. The working

day is not structured around working mothers with children. Women

are often trapped by financial and socially endorsed dependence on

men. Women can only be truly equal if they are economically equal.

Women also bear the brunt of the HIV/Aids pandemic in South Africa,

with more women than men being infected. It is not enough for us as

parliamentarians to light candles and wear ribbons. We have to take

practical steps to eradicate this scourge. One such practical step

is the femidom. On a recent visit to a rural hospital in the Eastern

Cape, I was informed that the doctors there could not keep up with

the demand for femidoms. The Department of Health cites cost
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implications for not being able to distribute enough of these female

contraceptives, but the life of a woman is more important than cost


The women of South Africa have, however, come a long way over the

past 10 years. We have a Bill of Rights, a Constitution and many

laws that protect the rights of women. Our democracy has also seen

over a quarter of a million South Africans voting for the only woman

leader of a nationally-based political party in Africa. The ID

intends to take forward the mandate given to us by these voters to

bridge the gender divide.

So many South African women have excelled over the past 10 years in

their positions in leadership. These women are role models, not only

for South Africans but also for other African women. We need to

ensure that the gains that have been made for women in South Africa

are spread throughout the continent. Women of South Africa, I salute

you. [Applause.]

Ms C B JOHNSON: Thank you, Chairperson. I do not know how this is

going to work in future, but I might be approaching the microphone

from this side for the last time. [Applause.]

In the month of August we honour the women of South Africa, and we

pay tribute to those women who continue to face adversity tirelessly

and courageously. We also acknowledge these women and their
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contributions to the successes of our country. However, after 10

years of democracy, one of our greatest challenges is still the

burden that many South African women continue to bear.

The preamble of the Women’s Charter, which was adopted in 1954, is

still as relevant in 2004 as it was some 50 years ago. That preamble


 We, the women of South Africa, declare our aim to strive for the

 removal of all laws, regulations, conventions and customs that

 discriminate against us as women and that deprive us in any way of

 our     inherent   right     to   the   advantages,       responsibilities     and

 opportunities      that    society   offers    to   any   one   section   of   the


The irony is that 50 years later, we, as Parliament, have rewritten

the laws. We have redrafted the regulations, cleaned up the Statute

Book and ruled out gender discrimination forever. But in civil

society, outside the walls of the parliamentary precinct, some of

the very same challenges and obstacles, namely those of convention,

custom and circumstance, continue to confront the women of South

Africa in almost every community and on a daily basis.

Women make up 52% of the South African population. Twenty-one

percent of adult South African women are unable to read or write.

Nearly half of them live in rural areas where unemployment is rife
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and job opportunities are scarce. Women account for 56% of all

unemployed people. Thirty-one percent of male-headed households live

in poverty, while nearly double that percentage, households headed

by women, live below the poverty line. Women also still earn less

than men for doing the same job.

A recent report shows that the individual gross income for a woman

is, on average, 51% less than that for a man. In order to address

poverty, South African women need secure access to our labour

markets and to lasting economic empowerment.

Violence against women and children remains one of our most serious

challenges that we must face. Research by Amnesty International has

found that, in South Africa, an average of 147 women are raped

daily. It is estimated that every six days a South African woman is

killed by a husband or life partner.

Although crime affects all South Africans, it affects women most

severely. Until the day that all women are safe in their homes, in

their places of work and society at large, South Africa will, to a

large extent remain an unequal society. But the major achievements

in advancing women’s rights far outweigh and outnumber the

challenges. It is these achievements that we need to celebrate as we

celebrate our 10 years of democracy.
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Change has brought about both advantages and opportunities, not only

guaranteed by our Constitution, and not only guaranteeing equality,

but also committing each and every one of us to continuously strive

for a truly nonracial and nonsexist society.

There have been many lasting achievements. On the issue of gender

representation, statistics show how far we have come towards

achieving a more balanced society. In 2003 women constituted 24% of

senior management in the Public Service; 21% of our ambassadors and

high commissioners were female; and 20% of our judges and 26% of our

magistrates were women.

We are bringing up our daughters and we are establishing in the

minds of the girl-child the idea and belief that they can grow up to

be whatever they dream to be. If I had entered politics before 1994,

I would have struggled to find a role model because they were few

and far between. Today, when I look up I see role models in all

parties all around me. That has contributed to shaping the women who

have gone before me. [Applause.]

Democracy has directly impacted on the lives of South African women.

It has led to better access to water, electricity, housing and basic

services; improved basic conditions of employment; and better access

to justice through specialised courts, family courts, maintenance

courts, and very focused domestic violence legislation.
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The women of South Africa have shown that today, as in the past -

when they marched to the Union Buildings – they remain committed to

the promise of a better tomorrow for all. This is a commitment that

all of us in this House share and strongly endorse. [Time expired.]


Nmz D C MABENA: Igama lamakhosikazi!


Nmz D C MABENA: Sihlalo, bongqongqotjhe abahloniphekileko, malungu

wePalamende ahloniphekileko nabo boke abantu abahle

abasivakatjheleko, angithome ngokuthokozisa umma uMaria Solomons

weSolomons Haven ngonongorwana anikelwe yena i-Woman of Worth Award.

Ngethando likamma ukwazile ukubuthelela abentwana abalahliweko kunye

nabahlukunyeziweko,nomma uSara Mahlangu we-Middelburg Emhluzi

Township eMpumalanga owathola unongorwana we The Emerging Tourism

Entrepreneur of the Year Award. Yena ukwazile ukwakha amathuba

womsebenzi ama-82.

NjengamaSewula Afrika singakhohlwa lapho sivela khona. Ababegade

basicindezele nabo babecindezelwe mangisi. Ngalenyanga yabomma

siyabakhumbula abomma bamabhunu abazi 26 370 kunye nabentwana babo

ebafela eenkambheni zamangisi ngesikhathi sepi yamabhunu – Boer War.

Singalibali abokhokho abakhothamako abafaka isandla emzabalazweni

nekukhuthazeni abomkhulu ukobana balwe nombuso webandlululo.
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Siyathokoza kubogogo abasesenathi la eSewula Afrika, abanye

baphakathi kwethu. Nizinkakaramba zomzabalazo befuthi niziinkutana

zekululeko. [Ihlombe.] Wathinta abafazi!


Nmz D C MABENA: Begodu uzakufa. Ikosi uBadumeleki wathunyelwa

nguZimu ngomfazi ngombhana wayedelela uZimu. Umfazi wambetha

ngemboko walayela umratha kungakafiki isikhathi. [Ihleko.]

(Translation of Ndebele paragraphs follows.)

[Mr D C MABENA: The name of women!

HON MEMBERS: Let it be praised!

Mr D C MABENA: Chairperson, hon Ministers, hon members of Parliament

and distinguished guests, let me start by congratulating Mrs Maria

Solomons of Solomon's Haven on the award she is receiving, namely

the Woman of Worth Award. With her motherly love she was able to

bring together all abandoned and abused children. I also want to

congratulate Mrs Sara Mahlangu of Middelburg, Mhluzi Township in

Mpumalanga, who was awarded The Emerging Tourism Entrepreneur of the

Year Award. She was able to create 82 job opportunities.

As South Africans let us not forget where we are coming from. Our

oppressors were in turn also oppressed by the English. It is during

this Women's Month that we also remember 26 370 Afrikaans women and
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children who died in the English camps during the Boer War. Let us

not forget our ancestors who participated in the struggle by

encouraging our forebears to fight against the apartheid regime. We

are thankful to our grandmothers, some of whom are still with us in

South Africa, others are among us. You are the pioneers of the

struggle and the heroines of democracy. [Applause.] If you touch the


HON MEMBERS: You will be in trouble!

Mr D C MABENA: And you will die. God sent a woman to King Badumeleki

because he (the King) was disobeying God's commands.   He was beaten

by the woman and died before his actual time of death. [Laughter.]]

The social dislocation resulting from colonialism and the migrant

labour system helped to disrupt family life and undermine women’s

rights. I salute those brave women who protested against passes in

passive resistance campaigns in Bloemfontein, Winburg and

Jagersfontein in 1913, and the approximately 20 000 women who

marched to the Union Buildings in 1956 for the same cause. They took

this bold step to liberate all of us.

With regard to marital instability, a growing number of female

breadwinners, an increase in spinsterdom and domestic conflicts,

engendered by the humiliation and subservience of most men’s work

experience, influenced women to be more socially assertive.
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During the 10 years of democracy the OSW and the gender focal points

have made numerous inroads with regard to dealing with gender

imbalances and they have to be commended for that. Because of the

power dynamics between men and women, it is important that women

assume leadership in the struggle to transform unequal gender power

relations. Therefore the challenge facing us liberated males is to

support the women’s struggle by organising ourselves at churches,

stokvels, soccer matches, etc, and to join hands with organisations

such as the National Network on Violence Against Women.

We should develop mechanisms that will encourage a child-support

defaulter to pay and adhere to his child maintenance order. We

should develop a focused process of engaging men in gender

transformation and in strengthening family life processes for the

next 10 years. We must develop mechanisms that engage men in the

evolution of a process that will ensure a break with the past in

terms of the negative aspects of patriarchy. Rapists, sexists and

chauvinists must not be given room to breathe.

During the month of August we must participate in women’s projects

on a voluntary basis, build a house for a vulnerable woman or plough

her agricultural fields, or report customary systems that will not

allocate residential sites to women. Divorced women with children

should not be forced to leave their homes. We must develop
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mechanisms that will discourage male relatives from evicting widows

from their homes and fields after their husbands’ deaths.

Abobaba abalahlwa bomma kufanele balise ukuthanda ukudumuza. [Men

deserted by their women must stop resorting to shooting.]

They must stop being trigger-happy.

Nabafuna ukuzibulala bazibulale babodwa. Bangabulali umma

nabentwana. Namkha nakuziintjhimani bakhambe bayozilahlela emanzini.

[Ihlombe.] Ekuvaleni ikulumo yami, ngithi uZimu ulithando.

Usithandile wasipha abomma abahle, abaqiniselako, abaletha

ukufuthumela ngekhaya. Asibahloniphe ukwakha i-Afrika neSewula

Afrika enqono. Wathinta abomma, wathinta imbhokodo! Malibongwe!


Nmz D C MABENA: Ngiyehla. [Ihlombe.] (Translation of Ndebele

paragraphs follows.)

[If they want to commit suicide, they must die alone. They must not

kill the mother and the children. If they are unsuccessful in their

propositions, they must go and throw themselves into the river.

[Applause.] In conclusion, I must say that God is love. He loved us

so much that He gave us these beautiful women, who persevere and

bring warmth in the family. Let us respect them to build Africa and
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a better South Africa. If you touch the women, you will be in

trouble! Let it be praised!

Hon MEMBERS: The name of the women!

Mr D C M MABENA: I thank you. [Applause.]]

Ms C DUDLEY: Chairman, as a woman born and raised in Africa I stand

on behalf of the ACDP in recognition of the many changes in South

Africa that have given women cause to celebrate.

The ACDP supports and applauds the conscious effort being made in

all spheres of government and society to recognise the valuable role

of women, past, present and future. The allocation of time today is

testimony to this and we in the ACDP salute you, Madam Speaker,

Madam Deputy Speaker and, of course, the Chief Whip.

Much has been said today concerning the empowerment of many women

and much has been said about the continued bondage and difficulties

of many others. While we choose to celebrate – it is good for us to

celebrate – it is obvious to all that the struggle for true freedom

is not yet over. Many battles are still raging, and courageous South

African women are as critical today as they have been in the past.

I was amused recently as I listened to some “emancipated women”

earnestly discussing freedom. They finally agreed that if one factor
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had to take the credit for the emancipation of women, it would be

the washing machine – an interesting conclusion bringing light

relief from the usual concept of men being the enemy and women

having to prove themselves as somehow superior.

This makes me think of a story a colleague told me that I quite

enjoyed. It was about Fred Astaire, a famous male dancer, and his

female partner Ginger Rogers. A fan was exclaiming about the talents

of Fred Astaire when his colleague – and I presume it was a female –

pointed out that while Fred was talented, Ginger not only did

everything he did but had to do it backwards and in high heels.

That’s something to think about.

The women of South Africa are courageous. They have faced and still

face daunting challenges. It is not selfish ambition or power that

inspires them, however, but concern, not only for themselves and

their daughters, but for the welfare of their sons, husbands,

fathers and brothers. With unemployment, hunger and poverty a harsh

reality for vast numbers of South Africans, it is not easy for women

to celebrate.

Violent crime still plagues us as a nation, with no fewer than 250

000 people having been murdered and over 500 000 women and children

having been raped during this decade. Official figures estimate that

5,3 million people in South Africa were HIV-positive at the end of

2002, and that approximately 2 million children under 18 had been
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orphaned by 2003. If this is the cost of freedom we are in big


Dr Buthelezi, our hearts go out to you in your loss, and we in the

ACDP thank you for your courage in sharing your experience with us.

While many of our challenges are external, much of the struggle for

women and men is internal. I think, for example, of my own struggle

from frightened child through complex teenager and defensive young

woman to being who I am today and will be tomorrow. I’ve learnt many

things but none more important than the discovery that my need for

love, worth, security and purpose cannot be filled by any human

person or physical thing.

Once I acknowledged God as my source and looked to Jesus to fill my

needs I quit placing unrealistic expectations on myself and others,

and I was free from the power I had given circumstances and people,

including men, to dictate my emotions, my self-worth, my destiny.

Free from hostility from past hurts I was better able to relate to

people on the basis of their needs rather than my own. Looking for

satisfaction in the wrong source is always temporary, doomed to

failure and disappointment. We become slaves to what we think will

fill the emptiness in us that is designed to be filled by God. For

some, it is men, for others women, career, money, food, drink,

drugs, etc. Even the mighty ANC, or the ACDP for that matter, is
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doomed to fail you and bring bondage if it is the centre of your

existence, your source.

I spent over half of this decade of freedom here at Parliament,

engaging with issues which impact on the lives of women and their

children. In the face of such awesome responsibility I could not

help but be conscious of my limitations as a mere human being, but I

have never doubted my relevance as a woman.

What I hadn’t bargained on, though, was the overwhelming rejection I

face daily as a confessing Christian with a biblical worldview. Of

course, my white face did not make things much easier. On many

occasions I would have gladly traded this white face, but I know

from my own past behaviour – broken behaviour – that rejection of

others stems from our own pain. I can only imagine the hurts that

many still carry.

Perhaps the saddest thing I have witnessed during my time at

Parliament, precisely because it attacks everything good and

incredible about women and destroys the most vulnerable in society,

is the deception many women have bought into concerning abortion.

[Time expired.] [Applause.]

Dr C P MULDER: Thank you, Chairperson. Today we are discussing a

very serious and very important subject, namely Women Celebrating

the Decade of Freedom on the Path to Total Emancipation. However,
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over the past weekend, as well as yesterday, there were persistent

rumours that the ANC unilaterally wanted to change the subject for

today’s debate without consultation. Yes, it was said that they

wanted to change the subject from Women Celebrating the Decade of

Freedom on the Path to Total Emancipation to a different topic,

namely, Women and Everyone Else Celebrating the Decade of Freedom on

the Path to Total National Party Destruction. [Interjections.] I am

very sorry that the NNP members are not here at the moment. I have

also heard that this latter topic will not be discussed in the House

at any stage, but definitely only in private.

The fact of the matter is that I have looked at some of those NNP

members and I am not sure that they will be able to do what is

expected of them. They will have to speak to hon Annelizé van Wyk,

Manie Schoeman and others to see if they will be able to do the

necessary toyi-toying and the necessary singing, but they will get

some lessons, I understand, from the ANC. [Interjections.]

Chairperson, in a statement in 1990 the ANC committed itself to the

principle of women’s emancipation and the formation of a 30% quota

for women in all constitutional structures of the ANC.

Die feit van die saak is die enigste iets wat in die staatkunde

vasstaan, is verandering, ook wat die posisie van die vrou betref.

Hetsy in die staatkunde of in die totale samelewing, moet ons erken

dat daar groot verandering plaasgevind het. Dit was natuurlik nie
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net in Suid-Afrika die geval nie, maar wel oral oor die hele wêreld

wat daar geweldige veranderinge plaasgevind het. (Translation of

Afrikaans paragraph follows.)

[The fact of the matter is that the only thing that remains constant

in politics is change, and this also pertains to the status of

women.    Whether in politics or in society as a whole, we must

acknowledge that immense changes have occurred.    This, of course, is

not only the case in South Africa but in fact everywhere throughout

the world where enormous changes have taken place.]

 Luckily we have come a long way from the kind of views expressed

 by some in this regard. Honoré de Balzac once said, and I quote:

 “In 20

centuries, scarcely 20 great women are to be counted.”

He must have been a very cynical person with no vision at all.

Today, we all know that there are millions and millions of great

women on this planet.

Today the hon Deputy Speaker made the following point: The complete

ethos of politics and democracy have been structured ...

If I understand her correctly -
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... around values that are men-driven, such as winners and losers,

confrontation, etc.

She then argued that women-driven values such as mutual respect,

consensus and collaboration should rather be the norm. I couldn’t

agree more. If that is the case, then I would say that we also

definitely need many, many more women in Parliament, also within the

ANC, because if we are driven by mutual respect, consensus and

collaboration then I think we would all get much further with what

we are trying to achieve in Parliament.

Wat hierdie onderwerp betref, mnr die Voorsitter, sê die VF PLus

baie duidelik: Vroue en mans is gelyk, afgehandel, klaar en dit moet

so hanteer word. Tweedens, geen geweld teenoor vroue of kinders van

enige aard kan ooit aanvaar of gekondoneer word nie. Dit is

verkeerd, afgehandel en klaar! Die agb Minister van Binnelandse Sake

het gesê dat vroue nie weet wat hulle regte is nie. (Translation of

Afrikaans paragraph follows.)

[Regarding this subject, Mr Chairperson, the FF Plus states clearly:

Men and women are equal, and that settles it, and it should be

managed in this way.   Secondly, any kind of violence against women

and children can never be accepted or condoned.   It is wrong, and

that is that! The hon Minister of Home Affairs said that women do

not know what their rights are.]
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He said that they should go to the maintenance courts and get their

maintenance, etc.

Dit is waar, en ek stem 100% daarmee saam. Daar is geen rede hoekom

’n kind moet swaarkry omdat ’n pa nie onderhoud betaal nie, maar dit

is ook miskien waar, en die vraag ontstaan: Is dit nie so dat ons

strafregstelsel en ons totale juridiese stelsel in terme van

onderhoudshowe ons vroue in die steek laat nie? Ek het al gekyk

hoeveel probleme daar vir ’n vrou is wanneer sy na die

onderhoudshowe gaan om daar te kry dit waarop sy geregtig is en dat

die kind kan kry wat hy ook basies nodig het.

As ons na hierdie onderwerp kyk, sê ek van die VF Plus se kant af,

daar is verskillende groepe in dié land met verskillende kulture en

verskillende gebruike in Suid-Afrika. Dit wat as vroulike status of

as vroulikheid in die een gemeenskap beskou word, of die kwaliteit

van lewe wat ’n vrou geniet, is nie noodwendig dieselfde as hoe dit

in ’n ander gemeenskap in Suid-Afrika beskou word nie. Trouens, as

ons begin praat van die kwaliteit van lewe van ’n vrou, is dit ook

direk gekoppel aan haar spesifieke gemeenskap, met ander woorde haar

kultuur, haar godsdiens en haar taalgemeenskap. Wat deur die een

gemeenskap as status of kwaliteit gesien word, word nie noodwendig

deur ’n ander gemeenskap só ervaar nie.

Daarom maak die Grondwet spesifiek daarvoor voorsiening, in artikel

31 waar erkenning gegee word ten opsigte van die verskillende
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kultuur-, godsdiens- en taalgemeenskappe, en waar dit duidelik

gestel word dat persone wat aan daardie gemeenskappe behoort, nie

die reg ontsê mag word om met ander lede van daardie gemeenskap hul

taal, kultuur en godsdiens te gebruik en te beoefen nie, want

hierdie dinge is ook baie nou verwant aan gemeenskappe, wat mense se

ervaring is en hoe hulle basies leef.

Die VF Plus is dankbaar dat ons hierdie dag kan herdenk, dat ons

hierdie maand kan herdenk. Ons sê weer eens: Mans en vroue is gelyk

en dit moet so hanteer word. Ons hoef dit nie verder te debatteer

nie. Baie dankie. [Applous.] (Translation of Afrikaans paragraphs


[This is true, and I agree 100% with that.   There is no reason why a

child should suffer because a father does not pay maintenance, but

it might also be true, and the question arises: Is it not so that

our criminal procedure system and our whole judicial system leave

our women in the lurch as far as our maintenance courts are

concerned?   I have already looked at the number of problems facing a

woman when she goes to the maintenance courts to get there that

which she is entitled to, and so that the child can get what he

basically needs.

When we consider this subject, then I have to say on behalf of the

FF Plus that there are various groups in this country with diverse

cultures and diverse customs in South Africa.   That which is viewed
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as feminine status or femininity in one community, or the quality of

life that a woman enjoys, is not necessarily viewed in the same

manner in different community in South Africa.   Indeed, if we begin

to speak about a woman’s quality of life, it is also directly linked

to her specific community, in other words her culture, her religion

and her language community.    What is considered to be status or

quality in the one community is not necessarily experienced as such

in another community.

That is why the Constitution makes specific provision for this in

section 31, where recognition is given in respect of the different

cultural, religious and linguistic communities, and where it is

clearly stated that persons belonging to those communities not be

denied the right to use and exercise their language, culture and

religion with other members of that community because these things

are also very closely related to communities, what people experience

and how they basically live.

The FF Plus is grateful that we are able to commemorate this day,

that we can commemorate this month.    We reiterate this: Men and

women are equal and must be treated in this manner.    We do not have

to debate it any further. Thank you very much. [Applause.]]


Chairperson, hon members, our guests ...
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Ke batla go simolola ka go dumalana le Mme Ndzanga gore tlhogo ya

rona ya mokgatlho wa basadi wa ANC ke senatla. Mme Nqakula o lekanwe

ke tiro ya gagwe. Ke batla gore ke lebisa kwa go ene, ke re, mafoko

a gago a a gomotsa. Nna ke tlile go simolola fa o tlogetseng teng.

(Translation of Tswana paragraph follows.)

[I would first like to agree with Ms Ndzanga that our head of the

ANC Women’s League is brave. Ms Nqakula is equal to the task. I

would like to direct this to her and say, your words comfort. I will

start where you left off.]

Ndiza kuqala ngokubonisa oko uMam’uNdzanga ebezama ukukubonisa apha,

ukuba esikuvunayo ngoku sakulwela kwakudala. Ndiza kuyilanda ke mna.

Ndiza kuyilanda ngokuthi ndikhethe omnye nje owayeyinkokeli

yamakhosikazi ukusukela ngo-1896. Lo muntu ndithetha ngaye

nguCharlotte Maxeke. (Translation of Xhosa paragraph follows.)

[I will start by explaining what Mrs Ndzanga was trying to say here,

that what we are enjoying now is what we fought for a long time ago.

I will trace it back. I will trace it by mentioning one person who

was the leader of women from 1896. That person is Charlotte Maxeke.]

I identify Charlotte Maxeke as a patron of justice for women. But

let me begin by paying tribute to all those great women who fought

for justice and liberation, and helped to bring us where we are.
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Charlotte Makgomo Manye was born at Ramokgopa in Pietersburg in

1878. Around 1896 she met her husband, Marshall Maxeke, while on a

singing tour to the United States. She was offered a scholarship to

study in Cleveland, Ohio, at the Wilberforce University.

On her return in 1905, she got involved in the struggle for justice.

She was articulate and talked about all the injustices that our

people were suffering. She was also involved in mass demonstrations

against the extension of passes to women, the most famous of these,

of course, well known to ANC women, was the march of 1913 in the

Free State. In 1919 she was one of the founders of the African

Women’s League, a branch of the ANC. She was also appointed

president of the African Women’s League.

As a journalist, Charlotte Maxeke wrote extensively about the social

conditions of African women in urban settings. In a seminal paper

she presented in 1930 at Fort Hare University, she linked the

dysfunctional family life of Africans in urban areas with the

migratory labour system, in particular the restrictive regulations

that limited the free movement of African people.

Many do not know that as early as then, she was critical of the

judicial system. She was aware of the difficulties of women in

accessing work opportunities in urban areas, and of the abuse and

contempt they suffered at the hands of magistrates and judicial

officers. She was also concerned about the plight of children and
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called for the establishment of juvenile courts to deal with cases

of children in trouble with the law. Maxeke demanded that female

magistrates be appointed for such courts. In her critique of the

treatment of juveniles as adults, she said that sending them to

jails and reformatories was utterly ruinous.

I want to pause. We must think of where we are today when we talk

about transformation. The establishment of the Federation of South

African Women in 1954 and the great march to the Union Buildings are

also important milestones in the struggles of our women for justice.

The women in the ANC and the Mass Democratic Movement prior to 1994

were guided by the programme of action adopted at the Malibongwe

Conference. The conference, held in Amsterdam in 1990, recognised

that, and I quote:

 … the emancipation of women can only be addressed as a total

 revolutionary transformation of the socioeconomic relations in

 South Africa. Our aim is to further chart the way for mobilisation

 towards unity in action against apartheid, and commit ourselves to

 the creation of a united, nonracial, democratic and nonsexist


Do you remember that phrase from when we were drafting the

Constitution? [Interjections.] Comrades, colleagues and friends, you

will remember that at the time extensive suggestions were made for
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the protection of women against violence, for the promotion of

equality, for the promotion of women’s rights. Similarly, extensive

proposals were made for the welfare of the children.

The women were at the centre of articulating policy for women’s

rights. Madam Johnson is correct, and indeed Mr Mulder, and to a

degree Madam Dudley. We worked so hard that today the agenda for

women’s emancipation and women’s advancement is not the preserve of

the ANC. Today it is claimed by all and sundry. [Applause.]

From the activism and struggles of Charlotte Maxeke and the

leadership of the time, to the mobilisation of women prior to 1994

and presentday efforts to address the question of justice for women,

I can boldly state that victories scored to date are the result of

consistency and the progressive policies of the ANC. After 1994 we

sought to advance women’s rights as human rights, in other words,

that women have the right to equality, the right to access to

resources, access to positions of leadership in both the private and

public sectors – and I must add the judiciary – freedom from want

and poverty, the right to health, and the right to protection from

violence and abuse.

Bekungolwethu lolu hlelo. Bekukhuluma amakhosikazi. Ngiyabona futhi

ukuthi bayavuma omama abahleli laphaya. Kukhona abakhumbulayo ukuthi

ngesikhathi siye eMalibongwe, kwakukhona izinkulumo ezenziwa

ngamakhosikhazi ayesuka enyakatho, esesiyibiza ngeLimpompo
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namhlanje, amanye ayesuka endaweni esasiyibiza ngokuthi yi-Border,

eMpumalanga Koloni, amanye esuka eNtshonalanga Kapa naseGauteng.

Wonke amakhosikazi ayeze nezinkulumo zawo. Ayeseke ayibamba

imihlangano eminingi ekhuluma ngale migomo esinayo namhlanje. Le

migomo iyona eyenziwe ngamakhosikazi. [Ihlombe.] Translation of Zulu

paragraph follows.)

[That has been our programme. Women were giving speeches. I notice

that women who are sitting there concur. Some of you would remember

when we visited Malibongwe. There were speeches that were made by

women from the North, which is at present known as Limpopo; some

were coming from the area called Border, the Eastern Cape; some were

coming from Western Cape, as well as from Gauteng. The women came

with their speeches. They had several meetings before about the

policies we have today. These policies were made by women.


Today the promotion and protection of women’s rights enjoy priority

status in our governance structures, and in the Justice, Crime

Prevention and Security Cluster in particular. In this we are guided

by President Mbeki, who in his opening address to the second

Parliament in June 1999, said:

 One of the central features of the brutish society we seek to

 bring to an end is the impermissible level of crime and violence.
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 Acting together with the people, we will heighten our efforts

 radically to improve the safety and security of all our citizens.

Ningakhohlwa bakithi ukuthi uma ngiqala ngoCharlotte Maxeke ngizama

ukukhombisa ukuthi wayegxeka kwakhona ukuthi abantu babehlala

emijondolo ngendlela eyayenza ukuthi kungabi nanhlonipho

kwasemakhaya, eyayenza ukuthi kube nenhlupheko, amakhosikazi angabi

nasithunzi, futhi akhubazwe ngamadoda awo. Konke lokho uMaxeke

wakubona ngo-1930. Sisabhekene nakho nanamhlanje. Uma nikhumbula

eMalibongwe, yizo futhi lezi zinto ebesikhuluma ngazo. Namhlanje

ngifuna ukugcizelela ukuthi lolu hlelo ngolwethu. Ngolwenu

makhosikazi. (Translation of Zulu paragraph follows.)

[When mentioning Charlotte Maxeke I am trying to show you that she

was against the idea of people living in shacks because it created

disrespect in homes, creating poverty    leading to indignity of women

and abuse by their partners. Maxeke noticed all that in 1930. We are

still facing the same even today. If you remember well, these issues

were discussed at Malibongwe. I would like to stress that this

programme is ours. It’s for you women.]

Giving substantive effect to the women’s rights that are protected

in our Constitution, we have passed a number of enabling laws

addressing the difficulties that women face. The most important of

these relate to combating violence and the abuse of women. These

include the Domestic Violence Act, which constitutes a substantial
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broadening of the limited scope of its predecessor and recognises

that domestic violence is a serious social evil which impedes

women’s development and is an obstacle to achieving gender equality.

The Criminal Law Amendment Act regulates sentencing and this ensures

that judicial officers regard offences of this kind as serious

crime. We are continuing with efforts to ensure that our people know

about these important laws. For the women effectively to utilise

these laws they need to know about them. I am not convinced that

women in this country know enough about these laws.

Ukhulumile-ke ngalokho uComrade Nosiviwe. [Comrade Nosiviwe has

talked about that.]

We need feedback from the women affected by the laws. As we seek to

consolidate the gains made in the first decade of freedom, we need

to ensure that we reach an ever-increasing mass of women, especially

in the rural areas. Educating and raising awareness about government

programmes and services is one of our primary mandates. It is

therefore vital that we find creative ways to ensure that all

citizens, especially women, in our country are fully aware of the

various laws and services that are critical to them.

We are also constantly reviewing and refining all our pieces of

legislation, and are in the process of changing some, so that they

respond to the needs of our people.
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I must apologise …

Maqabane, ngiyaxolisa. [I apologise, Comrade.]

… to the women of this country that we still have on our Statute

Book outdated and discriminatory pieces of legislation, such as the

Black Administration Act and the Succession Act. These are the kinds

of laws that formed the core of the legislation of oppression.

Niyakukhumbula makhosikazi ukuba kudala sathetha ngazo ezi zinto.

Sathetha ngazo naseMalibongwe kanti noMaxeke waqalisa ukukhuluma

ngezinto ezicishe zifane nalezi nokuthathwa komhlaba uthathwa

ebantwini. (Translation of Xhosa paragraph follows.)

[Women, you will remember that we have been talking about these

things. We talked about them also in Malibongwe, and also Maxeke

started to talk about related issues and the seizure of land from

the people.]

The reason I spoke of the origins of policy-making is precisely

because …

…ngifuna ukunikhuthaza. Makhosikazi, ake nisondeleni. [… I would

like to encourage you. Women, may you come closer.]
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We are considering innovative ways of engaging the masses of our

women. We will use our imbizos and the women’s fora; community-based

NGOs can also help in mobilising women, and at the indabas we will

review and say how far we have come.

Ukuze sithole ukuthi ngempela ngempela, seliqhubeke kangakanani

iqoqo lezobulungiswa. Sizokhuluma thina siyiqoqo lezobulungiswa

ukuthi sinibona kanjani nokuthi yini esingayenza ukuze sinivikele

futhi siqhubeke nokuninikeza amalungelo anifanele. Uma sengiphetha

ngifuna… (Translation of Zulu paragraphs follows.)

[We will establish how far the justice cluster has gone. We will

discuss certain things as the justice cluster regarding how we view

you as well as what can we do to protect you and to ensure that we

continue giving the rights you are entitled to. In conclusion I

would like …

I therefore want to acknowledge and salute the powerful women’s

formations that are working hard in our communities for the

advancement of women.

Mina ngithatha uhlangothi oluthile. Ngifuna ukuhalalisela i-ANC

Women’s League ngoba iyo phela ephambili futhi ekhuthalele ukulwela

amalungelo omama. [Ihlombe.] (Translation of Zulu paragraph

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[I would like to support a particular side. I wish to congratulate

the ANC Women’s League on being at the forefront for women’s rights.


I also want to salute individuals that are dedicated, especially to

fighting the scourge of abuse and sexual violence against women. Of

course, with violence I include rape. I also want to recognise the

efforts of men’s groups that are campaigning to raise awareness that

the problem is a societal one and needs all of us. I think this is

critical. It is a matter that we have discussed in the ANC.

The issue of violence against women, rape and everything, is not a

women’s concern; it is a societal concern. But I also plead that we

acknowledge that what exacerbates, what makes the situation worse,

is precisely the conditions of want and poverty in which our people

find themselves. So I would like to urge all of us, men and women,

to work together in the fight against violence directed at women.

In conclusion, lest we become complacent amidst the victories of the

not-so-distant past, I would emphasise the continued need for

participation of women in the reformation, interpretation and

enactment of law.

Ngiyazi ukuthi nina makhosikazi aninamali yokuza lapha ePhalamende

kanti futhi aninaso nesikhathi sokuthi nisibhalele. Sengicela ukuthi

nike nikhulume nisho ukuthi singahlangana kanjani ngoba iqiniso
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ukuthi, maqondana nale mithetho, abantu abahamba phambili mayelana

noguquko kuba abantu abafundile abangoprofesa abazihlalele laphaya.

Lapha ngakwezomthetho, ngabameli abakwazi ukukhuluma kodwa abantu

bona abanalo ithuba lokuthi bakhulume. Mina ngiyanikhumbuza bakithi

ukuthi lolu hlelo ngolwethu makhosikazi. Masisukume!

Nginethemba lokuthi i-ANC Women’s League izonisiza ukuze silethe

ulwazi emakhosikazini futhi siyenze ibe lula phela nale nto yale

mithetho. Imithetho iyethusa ngoba ibhalwe ngalokhu nalokhuya nabo-

inter alia. Ikhuluma kanjalo. Kodwa thina sifuna ukubhala imithetho

esizokwazi ukuthi siyifunde sonke. [Kwaphela isikhathi.] Malibongwe!

AMALUNGU AHLONIPHEKILE: Igama lamakhosikazi!


Malibongwe! [Ihlombe.] (Translation of Zulu paragraphs follows.)

[I know that you women don’t have money to come to Parliament or

time to write to us. I would like to have your suggestion as to how

are we going to meet because the reality in so far as this

legislation is concerned is that people who are at the forefront of

transformation are learned people, professors who are not in such

situations. On the legal side the lawyers are able to voice their

views, but people don’t have a chance to voice their views.

I therefore remind you that this is a women’s programme. Let’s stand

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I hope that the ANC Women’s League will assist us to give

information to women and make these laws understandable. These laws

are intimidating because many things are there, for example. It is

written in this manner. We want to write laws that we are able to

read. [Time expired.] Let it be Praised!

HON MEMBERS: The name of women!


Praised! [Applause.]]

Mr B J MNYANDU: Mr Chairperson, hon members, distinguished guests,

allow me to take this opportunity to join the rest of the speakers

that stood hear today to pay tribute to women for resisting the

injustice meted out to them by the former government. Today we are

saying to them that their struggle was not in vain.

I would like to pay tribute particularly to the following - I know

that the list is endless - honourable women, such as Princess

Magogo, Mrs Helen Suzman, Mrs Veronica Sobukwe and others. We note

with appreciation how, with courage, they had to face atrocities,

such as when they marched in the face of bullets in 1956 to protect

their dignity as women.
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We also note with appreciation that in 1976 they had to bear the

brunt of all the atrocities meted out to their daughters and sons as

they struggled for social justice in this country. We recognise the

distance already travelled since 1994, with women taking their

rightful place in a country that for so many years created

chauvinistic institutions that conducted an onslaught against them.

As we celebrate today we take note of the institutions that brought

about the oppression of women. We take note that such chauvinistic

institutions had a tendency to define women in terms of their

physical manifestations in a collective way, so that they could then

undermine their dignity by using those kinds of characteristics. In

that way women were forced to give up their own individual identity

in favour of their collective characteristics, all designed by our

chauvinistic authorities.

Women were coerced into third-class citizenship, simply because they

happened to be women. In that way they were condemned for their

biological characteristics, as if they had chosen to be women. They

were thus castigated for sins they had never committed, simply

because they were women.

We note that in every situation of deprivation, be it children

arrested and thrown into custody or husbands housed like beasts in

compounds on the mines, women were the first casualties and victims.

Therefore, as we celebrate the triumph of rationality over
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irrationality, and as we celebrate the dawn of enlightenment in our

history, we should not forget those women who are still arrested in

the paradigm of chauvinism. We should not forget those women who are

still suffering because of poverty and HIV/Aids.

The biggest challenge in our celebration today is making sure that

women’s liberation is founded on the right paradigm. This paradigm

should see women’s participation in our democracy today not so much

as a privilege, but as a right. Where women’s participation is

regarded as a privilege, you can rest assured that it won’t last

forever. As a privilege it will only last for as long as the male

species wants it to. But when it is regarded as a right it will last

forever, for it shall have been built on the right epistemological

premise that says that women are individuals with unique identities;

that women are nobody’s natural slaves; that the relationships they

create with men or other women are contracts of free will and

autonomy between people. I am talking about a right that is founded

on the liberal definition of a relationship between an individual

and the state - separation of state and government - and only bound

together by reason and morality.

A foundation such as the one I have characterised above allows us to

worry less about which individuals we associate with and the

political organisations they join. We take these individuals as

autonomous equals who are free to make their own choices and who

would not be punished overtly or covertly for the choices they make.
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This epistemological model, as agreed to in our Bill of Rights,

becomes a guarantee for the total emancipation of women in

particular, and humanity at large. I thank you. [Applause.]

Dr S E M PHEKO: Mr Chairman …

The CHAIRPERSON OF COMMITTEES: The hon Pheko seems to have the wrong

speech. We will continue … We will have to give him a minute to come

back to the podium.

Dr S E M PHEKO: Mr Chairman, my apologies for the mix-up. After 10

years of democracy it is clear to the PAC of Azania that we have to

do much more for the majority of women of this nation. Everything

that matters to women is up for sale: water, land, health care,

education, electricity, housing and HIV/Aids medicines.

The exclusion of the majority of women from the economy has become

more profound over the past 10 years, as the country embraces

capitalist globalisation. For women this has meant dire poverty,

greater wage inequalities, fewer job opportunities, and more

evictions from land and harassment by sheriffs, as was witnessed

recently in Protea Glen and Diepsloot.

The foreign investor has become more important than women in this

country. The brutal indictment has come from the United Nations

Human Development Report of 2003, which stated that a fundamental
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policy shift had to take place if meaningful development that

benefits the majority of the population were to take place.

Over the past 10 years the present government has bowed to the

demigods of market forces. Its massive programme of structural

adjustments through Gear, privatisation and liberalisation has only

increased the hideous disparities between the rich and the poor.

More than a million people have lost the right to work. The majority

are women. The corporatisation of basic services, electricity, water

and housing has meant that women-headed households, in their

millions, have experienced water and electricity disconnections, and

evictions from their land and homes.

Women need security of tenure, women need to enjoy security of body.

The levels of violence against women can no longer be matters of

rhetorical speeches. Our starting point must be that women are equal

to men and we must remove the superstition that women are inferior.

When women and their children are evicted, when women sell their

bodies to provide for their families, when women on farms are not

paid a living wage, when women are denied HIV medicines, it is a

reflection that we do not appreciate, value and celebrate the

complementary differences between men and women. We cannot,

therefore, with a clean conscience, boast of women celebrating the

decade of freedom and total participation.
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We speak of moral regeneration in this country. How is this going to

be achieved side by side with promoting prostitution and calling its

practitioners sex workers? Our daughters want to be medical doctors

and aspire to other noble professions. Prostitution is degrading

them. Let us move away from this culture of sex workers to the

national dignity of our women through affordable education.

A nation’s progress is measured by the treatment and status of its

women. The next 10 years must be for and about women. The Pan-

Africanist Women’s Organisation is right when it says: “Train the

women, train the nation.” Thank you.

Ms M R MORUTOA: Chairperson, hon Deputy Speaker, hon Deputy Minister

and hon members of Parliament, I greet everyone sitting in the

gallery. My speech will be partly celebrating the achievements by

women in the decade of freedom, and how we walked together as women

on the path to total emancipation. I would like to thank the

President for consistently taking a girl-child to work every year,

listening to their opinions and implementing these.

I proudly celebrate the effective leadership of the president of the

ANC Women’s League when South African women intervened successfully

in the Amina Lawal issue in Nigeria.

Igama lamakhosikazi malibongwe! [Praise the name of women!]
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We should celebrate the fact that social welfare and development has

come with a programme of grants for children, which provides cash-

flow to women. Almost every household has access to water,

sanitation and electricity. This is very important to our South

African women, especially those in the rural areas. This programme

alleviates poverty.

The number of women in professional posts has increased

tremendously. The President has recently made us aware of the fact

that in South Africa we now have 28 female judges out of an overall

number of 210. He says that this is definitely not enough. Women

have acquired many skills in the engineering and technology fields.

It is quite realisable that there are a number of women in the

aviation business. We have women pilots. How wonderful it is to sit

in an aeroplane that is piloted by a woman. It just glides in the


Malibongwe igama lamakhosikazi! [Praise the name of


I am highlighting these achievements to remind us of the fact that

women were previously restricted to teaching at primary schools and

nursing. What is interesting now is that women have a choice about

what happens to their bodies and their lives. With the

implementation of the choice of terminating pregnancy within 12
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weeks, maternal deaths from unsafe abortions were reduced by 2,5%

between 1998 and 2001.

When we celebrate the decade of women’s freedom we should take

cognisance of the fact that it is because of the South African

Constitution, which provides an overarching framework for the

promotion of gender equality. The Bill of Rights guarantees equal

treatment for all South Africans.

South Africa has committed to gender equality through the

ratification of a number of international conventions, including the

Convention for the Elimination of Discrimination Against Women, or

Cedaw, and the Beijing Platform of Action. Other African conventions

that South Africa is a part of are the Platform of Action, the

Convention on the Advancement of Women, SADC, etc.

The concept of national gender machinery was fought for during a

protracted struggle waged by the ANC Women’s League, initiating the

formation of the Federation of South African Women. This federation

managed to launch the Women’s Charter in 1994. This charter set the

precedent for women to struggle for their emancipation. After 1994

the national gender machinery was established in the form of the

Office on the Status of Women and the Commission on Gender Equality.

A committee that monitors the implementation of legislation that is

meant to improve the lives of women was also set up in Parliament,
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namely the Joint Monitoring Committee on the Improvement of the

Quality of Life and Status of Women. This committee has provided

space for women members of Parliament to communicate with women’s

organisations, and also provides a platform to place gender issues

on the national agenda. This committee has been part of the workshop

hosted by Parliament’s public education office. Some of the

conferences were on enhancing the participation of women in law-


These projects provided scope for making submissions on how women

experience the implementation of the Domestic Violence Act, the

Maintenance Act, and customary law with respect to issues of

inheritance and succession. The committee has prioritised socially

vulnerable groups that are rendered voiceless because of their

socioeconomic status. The main target group of this committee

therefore is poor women, particularly rural women.

Lo mthetho wokukhusela amakhosikazi ekuphathweni rhabaxa kwawo

emakhayeni awo, iDomestic Violence Act ngolukaJoji ulwimi, uphucule

iimpilo zabafazi. Lo mthetho wongeza iinxaxheba zokukhusela abafazi

xa uwuthelekisa nomthetho owawukho ngaphambili owawubizwa ngokuba

yi-Prevention of Family Violence Act ka-1993. Ukuphathwa rhabaxa

kwamakhosikazi ngabayeni bawo emakhaya kubonakalisa ubuhedeni yaye

kubuyisela impucuko yabantu besifazana emva. Thina ke kodwa apha

eMzantsi Afrika sithi: Unotshe! Asokuze yenzeke loo nto kusaphethe

i-ANC. Abantu abaninzi emaphondweni bayavuma ukuba lo mthetho wenze
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umahluko omkhulu ekuthinteleni ekuhlukunyezweni kwamakhosikazi.

(Translation of Xhosa paragraph follows.)

[The Act that is protecting women against abuse in their homes,

known as the Domestic Violence Act in English, has improved the

lives of women. This Act makes an effort to protect women, when you

compare it with the old Act called the Prevention of Family Violence

Act of 1993. The abuse of women by their husbands in their homes

proves evil and is taking the civilisation of women backwards. But

we say here in South Africa: never! That is not going to happen for

as long as the ANC is still governing. Most people in the provinces

acknowledge that this Act has made a big difference in preventing

the abuse of women.]

Batjhotjhisi ba re, le bona ba bona phapang e kgolo ho molao wa ho

sireletsa bomme le bana tlhokofatsong ya lapeng. Molao wa phepo ya

bana le ona o tsheheditswe ho nolofatsa bophelo ba bomme ka ho

hlokomedisa bontate hore ho bohlokwa, ebile ke tokelo ya bana ho

hodiswa ke batswadi hantle. (Translation of Sotho paragraph


[Prosecutors say they also see a big difference in the law that

protects women and children against domestic violence. The

children’s feeding scheme is also supported to ease women’s lives by

making men aware that it is important, and it is also the children’s

right to be brought up properly by parents.]
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Madam Speaker, we can proudly speak about a number of changes that

have been made to the South African parliamentary procedures that

have a direct effect on women. These changes include the following.

The parliamentary recess has been aligned with school holidays.

There has been an increase in basic infrastructure facilities for

women, including women with disabilities. Gender-sensitive language

is being used in legislation.

Parliamentary sessions now commence and end earlier than before

1994, to allow members of Parliament to spend more quality time with

their families. We have female representatives in key positions and

women currently feature prominently in politics in South Africa.

Female presiding officers lead both Houses of Parliament - in the

National Assembly the Speaker and the Deputy Speaker are women, and

the Chairperson of the NCOP is also female.

Women also hold positions in the Ministries of Education, Justice

and Constitutional Development, Foreign Affairs, Home Affairs,

Minerals and Energy, the Public Service and Administration,

Agriculture and Land Affairs, Communication, Housing and Health.

Female representation among Deputy Ministers is also encouraging,

with women Deputy Ministers of, amongst others, Health, Safety and

Security, Correctional Services, Social Development, and Provincial

and Local Government. In addition, female chairpersons head key
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committees in Parliament. These include the Joint Monitoring

Committee on the Improvement of the Quality of Life and Status of

Women, the Joint Monitoring Committee on the Improvement of the

Quality of Life and Status of Children, Youth and Disabled Persons,

and the Portfolio Committees on Justice and Constitutional

Development, Labour, Public Enterprises, Environmental Affairs and

Tourism, and Social Development.

Government can consciously assist women to enter the tourism

industry. Trade and Industry should train women to own management

companies now that South Africa has won the 2010 bid. Women should

be assisted to access seed money or starter packs, to start their

own manufacturing companies.

When we deal with challenges facing women, the following are

critical: to make women aware of their rights in terms of all Acts

passed by Parliament to improve the lives of women; women members of

Parliament should call imbizos in their constituencies to interact

with women on the ground; and we need increased jurisdiction for the

regional courts when dealing with domestic violence. [Time expired.]


Miss S RAJBALLY: Malibongwe! Thank you, Chairperson. Hon Deputy

Speaker and our Ministers, I take this opportunity to thank all the

men that have come to the podium today to participate in the debate

on women. I want to extend my special thanks to our Chief, Dr
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Buthelezi, for sharing his recent painful experience with us. Our

thoughts and feelings are with him.

Our first democratic election brought us constitutional supremacy in

the form of our Constitution and the Bill of Rights, which liberated

our people and allowed legislation for an equal people. This was

done so that we could attain our freedom and equal rights for all,

especially our women. I am proud to stand here in our second era of

democratic governance as a female representing our people, and am

even more proud of the fact that 30% of our MPs are women. We have

134 women in the National Assembly and 19 in the National Council of

Provinces. We also proudly boast 18 ladies in ministerial and deputy

ministerial positions in our executive. Viva women, viva!

Since our entrance into democracy, South African women have been

liberated through legislation and hence many women have taken the

initiative to mobilise themselves into attaining prestigious

positions in the community and the economy. The MF salutes you and

all those responsible for paving the way to gender equity and

equality. Even though government has transformed policies and

legislation to make way for gender equity and equality, challenges

still exist.

It is encouraging to note that all our departments are making a

concerted effort to ensure that gender equity and equality are

attained, that land reform policies protecting women from unfair
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eviction are in place, that education is compulsory for our

children, that adult education and skills training are in place for

both sexes and that the health department have taken initiatives

involving women and HIV/Aids, and that the provision of proper

nutrition has been very successful.

Also, the legislation on abortion has given women the freedom of

choice and has stopped illegal abortions. Furthermore, free health

care for pregnant women has assisted in ensuring healthier

pregnancies and healthier babies. The increase in social and child

support grants has also been of great assistance.

These are but a few of the achievements attained over the past ten

years. Women have a major role to play in society. The MF is

confident that with the consistent empowerment of all women, we can

reduce and combat HIV and Aids. The media has a big role to play in

empowering women. Magazines, newspapers, radio talk shows and TV

influence the pattern of thought of society and we urge that gender

equity and equality be a top priority on these agendas. Females

should not be stereotyped as domestic beauty queens, but be seen as

human beings with the freedom and power to choose and be their best.

We are challenged by issues such as poverty, illiteracy, health and

unemployment, especially in rural areas. The MF, together with

government, NGOs and those concerned, calls on all women to mobilise

for their liberation, to make use of their rights and to take a
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stand. Women have the power to challenge inequality, to stop the

violence and to contribute to a better Africa. Together, we can

strengthen our nation and liberate women globally, as we have done

in Amina Lawal’s case. There are many women who still need our help.

Our government and Constitution have given you rights and

opportunities. It is your challenge to take it or not.

Be inspired by the fact that we are much more than mothers and

daughters; we too are nation-builders. You have the freedom to be

exactly who you want to be. I challenge all women to liberate

themselves, so that we may attain total emancipation.

At this point I would like to take the opportunity to congratulate

all our South African women, especially contenders at the Olympic

Games hosted in Athens. We also take this opportunity to thank the

host of this auspicious event and congratulate all those who have

been successful in the various events. The women of the world have

displayed strong competition. Malibongwe!

Mr B E PULE: Thank you, Mr Chair. The UCDP joins hands with all

people in the world in celebrating and acknowledging the commitment,

achievements and aspirations of women in their endeavours to

emancipate themselves completely.

In 1956 when women marched to the Union Buildings in protest against

the pass laws, it demonstrated that women, like men, are also
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created in the image of God, and hence are created with a sense of

vision, a sense of mission, a sense of destiny, and with a sense of


The past decade of democracy has seen women rise above the

expectations of their counterparts in various spheres of employment.

We need not go far from this august House to see the performance of

women in various fields. The UCDP would like to caution some men

that if they still subscribe to the philosophy that women belong to

the background, they have deliberately allowed themselves to be

outstripped by the tempo of developments, and will therefore cause

themselves unnecessary stress.

Nevertheless, women are still victims of discrimination, oppression,

and suppression. The more things change, the more they remain the

same. Women still continue to remain on the periphery of economic

emancipation. South Africa’s business market is still very much male

dominated. Throughout the country male-owned enterprises outnumber

those run by women more than two to one.

The gender breakdown according to industrial sectors shows that

these women-run enterprises are in the trade sectors. This

represents mostly shops and shebeens, and clothing manufacturing.

Community, social and personal services are the next most important

categories of enterprise in which women participate. There are very

low percentages of women involved in the following sectors:
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Agriculture has 13%, building and construction has about 5%,

transport and storage has about 4%, insurance has 18%, basic metal

industries and machinery has 5%, and mining and quarrying has about


We in the UCDP have reason to honour women, because it is through

the financial contribution of our women’s league that the party has

been able to register for both the 1999 and 2004 general elections.

Motlotlegi Mmusakgotla, ka segaetsho re tlotla bomme. Ke ka moo re

nang le puo e e reng mmangwana o tshwara thipa ka fa bogaleng. Ga

gotwe rre ke ena a e tshwarang. Go bonala borre re le magatlapa,

dithipa di tshwarwa ke bomme ka fa bogaleng.

Gape mo puong ya rona ya Setswana ra re mmamotho o amuwa a sule.

Seno se supa gore mme le fa ebile a sa tlhole a tshela, o sala a re

amusitse kagiso, kgothatso, tsholofelo, maitseo le botho – mmamotho

a amuwa a sule.

Gape ka segaetsho re na le puo e e reng mosadi tshwene o jewa

matsogo. Ga re lebelele gore mme o ntse jang: re solofela fela

ditiro mo go ena. Ga re itse fa go na le mme yo o maswe: re itse

botlhe ba le bantle, re ka ja monate wa diatla tsa bona. Ka go rialo

ra re a bomme ba lefatshe lotlhe ba tshele ka bosakhutleng. Ke a

leboga. [Legofi.] (Translation of Tswana paragraphs follows.)
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[Madam Speaker, in our culture we respect women. It is for this

reason that there is a saying that mothers are always protective of

their children. It is not said that the father is the one who holds

them. It looks as if we men are cowards, as if knives are held by

women by their sharp blades.

There is another Tswana saying to the effect that only good things

are said about a person when he is dead. This indicates that even

though this woman is no longer alive, she taught us peace, comfort,

hope, good manners and humanity - as it is said, good things are

said about a person when he is dead.

There is also a Setswana saying that the responsibility of a woman

is to fend for her family. We are not interested in her looks; we

only expect good work from her. We do not know of any woman who is

bad; we know that all women are beautiful, but we appreciate their

work. In that way we are saying that all women of the world should

live forever. Thank you.] [Applause.]]

Mrs Z A KOTA: Chairperson, Deputy Speaker, Ministers and hon

members, it is a great honour for me to participate in this

important debate celebrating a decade of freedom.

Mandibulise koomama, ndithi: Malibongwe! [Let me greet the mothers,

I say: Let it be praised!]
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HON MEMBERS: Igama lamakhosikazi! [The name of women!]

Allow me, Chairperson, to send condolences to the Tabata family at

NY 21, who lost both the mother and daughter-in-law in a car

accident in Aberdeen on their way to a funeral in the Eastern Cape.

We wish those in hospital a speedy recovery, and may they draw

strength from this message of solidarity.

Sithi akuhlanga lungehlanga, thuthuzelekani. Makube njalo nakwamanye

amakhaya agutyungelwe lilifu elimnyama kule nyanga yamakhosikazi.

Sithi: Makudede ubumnyama, kuvele ukukhanya! (Translation of Xhosa

paragraph follows.)

[We send our deepest condolences, be strong. Let it be so in all

other homes that have been befallen by bereavements during this

women’s month. We say: Let the darkness vanish, and let light


Today, as we celebrate our achievements and consolidate the gains of

this young democracy, we are required to look over the past 10 years

in our country to measure the progress we have made to date and to

map the way forward for the next decade. We do so by looking at the

role of women in housing and the impact of housing delivery on the

lives of women.
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This decade presents us with an opportunity to reflect on the road

we have travelled as South African women in fighting for our

emancipation. The struggle for the involvement of women - fighting

triple oppression - has proud roots in our society. Women were

oppressed on the basis of race, class and gender. Today we have a

Constitution that states that there should be no discrimination on

the basis of race or gender.

Our challenge, therefore, as women, is to participate in the fight

to close the gap between the first and second economies. Our history

was made by ordinary women. They were involved in shaping their

destiny, fighting side by side with their men. The historic march in

Bloemfontein in 1913 and the march to the Union Buildings on

9 August 1956 are clear evidence of those struggles. It is for that

reason that we salute and pay tribute to Lillian Ngoyi,

Mam’uSilinga, Mam’uJibiliza, Mam’uHolo, Rita Ndzanga and many


Today I want to salute the Ndzanga family for their contribution to

the struggle. I remember when I went for military training 18 years

ago in Angola, the recording officer at Pango was Comrade Bennet,

the son of Mama Rita Ndzanga. It is that cadre of leadership in

uMkhonto weSizwe that inspired us to celebrate this day in those

camps in Angola, honouring the role played by South African women in

the struggle. It is in the memory of those gallant fighters that we

continue to pick up their fallen spears.
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Chairperson, it is important to remember that the housing backlog

goes back decades in our country. Evidence of this exists in the

shanty towns occupied by Africans in the main everywhere.

Amatyotyombe alapha kuhola u-N2, njengokuba niwabona ... [The

informal settlements along the N2 freeway, as you see them ...]

… are clear evidence of that fact.

People still remember forced removals in many parts of South Africa,

such as in Unibel, Crossroads, KTC and Nyanga Bush in the Western


Nabaya ooMavis phaya phezulu, babehlala ematyotyombeni. [There is

Mavis, and others seated up there, who were staying at the informal


Women fought for shelter and were prepared to lay down their lives

during the time of these struggles. All peace-loving South Africans

joined these struggles under the banner of the UDF.

With the dawn of democracy, since 1994 to date, the ANC-led

government has transferred R50 billion to the poor through

subsidised housing, with new houses accommodating 6 million people.

In addition, it has transferred title deeds for almost half a
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million houses that people occupied in the townships. It is

important to note that nearly half of these approved housing

subsidies were granted to women. For the first time women became

property owners. They could use these assets as collateral. Through

housing, people have access to electricity, running water,

sanitation and all social amenities.

The national Department of Housing has been championing the

important role that women can and do play in housing development in

South Africa. Women on the ground and opportunities that are being

used and created for women to improve their living conditions have

informed this approach. The role of women in housing, however,

appears to be biased towards involving women in the physical

construction of houses, while there is a broad scope of professions

in housing in which women can play and are playing a role.

It is important that women are not just perceived as recipients of

housing, but rather as active participants in the housing process.

As part of the conciliation process, women beneficiaries are

targeted to provide input on issues such as levels of service,

design of houses as well as location of facilities by addressing the

concerns of women in respect of human settlements, so that human

settlements do become spaces that are safe and sustainable. Women

should also be implementers of housing projects.
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The People’s Housing Process offers beneficiaries an opportunity to

take decisions on the type of house to be built, as well as the size

of that house. The People’s Housing Process recognises the role

women, especially black women, have played and continue to play in

building and maintaining their housing and developing their

communities. The majority of community institutions that are set up

in the PHP process are women’s organisations. These women are

involved in the planning, financial arrangement, as well as

construction of their houses.

Umsebenzi owenziwa ngamakhosikazi eVictoria Mxenge, eMalibongwe

Park, eMacassar, eAtlantis nakwezinye iindawo, ngumzekelo omhle

kakhulu. Oomama bagcina imali bazakhele izindlu ezinkulu ngokwabo.

Iyatsho ke ne-Homeless People’s Federation ukuba oomama ngabona

bantu banegalelo apha ekwakheni izindlu. Ibalulekile into yokuba

siyijonge into ethethwe yi-Minmec kwizindululo zayo, ezithi:

(Translation of Xhosa paragraph follows.)

[The work done by women at Victoria Mxenge, Malibongwe Park,

Macassar, Atlantis and many other places is a good example. Women

saved money and built houses on their own. The Homeless People’ s

Federation also states that women are the ones who contributed the

most to the building of houses. It is imperative that we should look

at what has been stated by the Minmec in its principles, which

states the following.]
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Ten percent of provincial department budget allocations should be

utilised for housing projects that are undertaken by female

developers or contractors. However, as the Portfolio Committee on

Housing we do know that only one province, the Western Cape, has

implemented this resolution. Other provinces must follow suit.

It has been proved that a greater number of women are involved in

social housing, which means that social housing initiatives are also

female-driven. However, men are always in the forefront on social

housing issues, especially when it comes to speeches. Men deliver

these speeches on behalf of some companies. However, there are still

challenges facing women as we move towards the next decade of

freedom. These are: limited access to opportunities; limited access

to education and training; limited access to finance and land.

Somlomo, ndakuba andilungisi ukuba andimncomi uMphathiswa

wezeziNdlu, uQabane uLindiwe Sisulu, ngomsebenzi omhle awenzayo

wokwakha izindlu. Ndinethemba lokuba le-social housing iza kuba

namandla ngakumbi ngoba oomama abakhulisa abantwana bebodwa bathanda

ukuhlala kwizindlu ezirentwayo njengoko ezi ndawo zineendawo

zokudlala abantwana kwaye zikhuselekile. Mandimncome kakhulu

nangembizo ebibanjewe phaya e-OR Tambo Hall, eKhayelitsha, ecacise

ngokuphandle ukuba abantu bazimisele ukuzakhele izindlu ngokwabo

yaye bezimisele nokulondoloza bongeze kuncedo abanika lona

urhulumente. Bavuyile kakhulu bemnqwenelela impumelelo uMphathiswa.
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Mandibulele kumakhosikazi ngokuphuma ngobuninzi ngomhla we-9

kuAgasti. Kuyacaca ukuba oomama bayafuna ukuya phambili

besebenzisana norhulumente. Siyavuya boomama ukuba nizimisele

ukusebenzisana nemibutho ngemibutho. Lithuba elihle eli kwimbali

yoMzantsi Afrika. Kufuneka sizimisele ukusebenza ngeengalo

ezingenamikhinkqi sibheke phambili, ukuze kugwetywe indlala.

Ii-learnership neNkqubo yeMisebenzi kaRhulumente ifuna

intsebenziswano yethu singoomama kunye nemibutho yasekuhlaleni. Uza

kuyifumana njani impilo engcono mama xa uhleli ekoneni. Sondela uze

emibuthweni, wenze elakho igalelo ekuphuculeni impilo yakho.

Mandibabulela kakhulu koomama abazidinileyo namhlanje baza kumamela

le ngxoxo-mpikiswano ngoba lelinye igalelo elibaxhobisayo eli,

bamamele xa iPalamente ishukuxa imiba echaphazela iimpilo zabo.

Bangathi ngoko babuyele emakhaya nasekuhlaleni naloo mava, baxelele

oomama ukuba ikho inguqu likwakho nekamva xa uzibandakanya nemibutho

yoluntu. Ngokwenjenjalo ungumama uyaphila, unakho ukubonisa

nabantwana bakho ukuba ikamva eliqaqambileyo likamva lomama

nabantwana bebambisene kwimibutho yabantu yasekuhlaleni.

Uyandivuyisa lo rhulumente we-ANC ngoba kuyaqala ukuba kube kho

ipalamente enjengale, enika ithuba lokuba singoomama kweli Kapa size

kumamela ezi ngxoxo-mpikiswano. Kwiipalamente zangaphambili

sasigwayimba siphelele phaya ngaphandle, singenathuba lakungena
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ngaphakathi ukuze sikwazi ukuzithethela yaye simamele nakubantu

bethu. [Kwaqhwatywa.]

Sithi Phambili kumaqobokazana aphethe le Palamente, uSomlomo

noSekela-Somlomo, ngoba ngabo abenze ukuba namhlanje oomama babe

bayakwazi ukungena ePalamente baze kumamela iingxo-mpikiswano. Sithi

amaqobokazana angalal’endleleni yazini kunyembelekile. Enkosi.

[Kwaqhwatywa.] (Translation of Xhosa paragraphs follows.)

[Hon Speaker, I would not be doing justice if I did not commend the

hon Minister of Housing, Comrade Lindiwe Sisulu, for the wonderful

job she is doing of building houses. I hope that this social housing

will gain more strength, especially with regard to women who bring

up children on their own and who like to stay in houses that are

rented, because those areas have parks for children and they are

secure. Let me commend her all the more for the imbizo which was

held at the OR Tambo Hall at Khayelitsha, at which it was clearly

stated that people are serious about building houses on their own,

and they are also serious about saving and adding to the service the

government is offering them. They were very happy and they wish the

Minister success.

Let me thank the women for coming out in large numbers on 9 August.

It is clear that women do want to go forward and co-operate with the

government. We as mothers are happy that you are serious in co-

operating with different organisations. This is a good time for
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South African history. We should be serious in working with

dedication and moving forward, so that we can do away with poverty.

The learnerships and the government’s Public Works Programme need

our co-operation as women, and that of the community-based

organisations. How are you going to get it, woman, when you are

taking a back seat? Come close to the organisations, and make your

own contribution to improving your life.

Let me thank the women who made a sacrifice today in coming to

listen   to this debate, because this is another empowering

contribution, to listen when Parliament is extensively discussing

issues affecting their lives. May they then go back to their homes

and communities with that experience, and tell other women that

there is a change and a future if they join hands with the

community-based organisations. By doing that as women they will feel

alive, and they can even show their children that there is a bright

future, the future of women and children joining hands together in

community-based organisations.

This ANC-led government makes me happy, because this is the first

time that we have had such a women’s Parliament, that gives us an

opportunity as women in Cape Town to listen to these debates. Under

previous governments we used to boycott and end up outside; we did

not have the opportunity to come inside, to speak for ourselves and

listen to our people. [Applause.]
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We say, forward! We say this to the ladies who are in charge of this

Parliament, the hon Madam Speaker and the hon Madam Deputy Speaker,

because they made it possible for women to enter Parliament and to

listen to the debates. We say that when working and dedicated women

sleep in the road, that spells danger. Thank you. [Applause.]]

Mev D VAN DER WALT: Mnr die Voorsitter en agb lede, op 9 Augustus

het Suid-Afrika nasionale Vrouedag gevier - ’n belangrike dag elke

jaar op die kalender waarop ons erkenning gee aan vroue vir hul

onderskeie prestasies, bydraes, toegewydheid en aspirasies om hul

gemeenskappe, hul eie omstandighede en ons land te help bou aan ’n

beter Suid-Afrika vir almal.

Met vroue se viering van ’n dekade van vryheid op die pad na totale

emansipasie is dit nodig om ook erkenning te gee aan die

Afrikanervrou, haar geskiedenis en haar toekoms. Die Anglo-

Boereoorlog het die lewenswyse van die Afrikanervrou radikaal

verander. Weens die rol wat sy vertolk het, is sy as die pilaar van

die nasie beskou. Sy sou haar man herinner aan sy verpligting

teenoor sy vaderland en hom inspireer deur haar dapperheid en haar

geestelike steun. Sy was vrou, moeder en selfs skoenmaker en

veedrywer. Op die platteland moes sy ook na boerderybedrywighede

omsien. Sy het ’n unieke deursettingsvermoë gehad.
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Afrikanervroue het reeds tóé oral ’n hand na behoeftiges uitgesteek

om verligting te bring te midde van die geweldige nood en lyding, en

het met opheffing gehelp. Vermelding moet gemaak word van ’n

vergadering wat op 10 November 1900 in die Paarl gehou is. Hierdie

vergadering word as die eerste vrouekongres in Suid-Afrika

bestempel. Verskeie vroueorganisasies wat vandag nog betrokke is by

maatskaplike dienste en opheffingswerk het in dié tydperk ontstaan.

Erkenning moet definitief ook gegee word aan dié Afrikanervroue wat

in 1930 suksesvol geveg het om stemreg vir vroue te bekom. Deur die

jare daarna het al hoe meer Afrikanervroue onderrig- en

beroepsgeleenthede benut om hulself te vestig in die beroepswêreld,

hetsy in die professionele, akademiese, sake of informele sektor. In

die laat tagtigerjare is verskeie Afrikaanse sakevroueklubs, asook

die Nasionale Raad vir Sakevroue, op die been gebring. Dié

organisasie is ook destyds by die Afrikaanse Handelsinstituut


Talentvolle Afrikanervroue het ook naam gemaak in die

vermaaklikheidsbedryf, en in die skoonheidswêreld is toe selfs ’n

Mej Wêreldtitel huis toe gebring.

Tog, ondanks kwalifikasies en ondervinding, was dit hoofsaaklik ons

manlike eweknieë wat meestal die direksie- en senior

bestuursposisies beklee het. Met die aanbreek van die nuwe

demokrasie in 1994 is dit erken dat vroue histories die tweede
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grootste benadeelde groep in Suid-Afrika is. Wette is intussen in

plek gestel om dié ongelykhede uit te wis. Vandag word die konsep

van geslagsgelykheid wêreldwyd aanvaar.

Die Handves van Regte, soos vervat in die Grondwet van Suid-Afrika,

is ook baie duidelik hieroor. Tog kan mens nie help om te vra nie:

Het vroue, ook Afrikanervroue, werklik dieselfde regte as mans? Word

dit in die werkplek gereflekteer, en kry vroue dieselfde finansiële

geleenthede as mans? Hoewel vordering in die afgelope dekade gemaak

is, is daar nog baie maatskaplike en finansiële kwessies wat

gehanteer moet word om vroue in dié opsig werklik aan mans gelyk te

stel. ’n Vraag wat dikwels gevra word, en dringend aandag behoort te

kry, is: Vir hoe lank gaan kwessies rakende rasgelykheid nog aanhou

om geslagsgelykheid te oorheers?

’n Bron van groot kommer vir die Afrikanervrou is die kwessie van

moedertaalonderrig. Ook hier beskerm die Handves van Regte ons, maar

te gereeld word dit deur die ANC-regering op ’n onbillike wyse


Soos die regte van alle ander vroue van Suid-Afrika moet die

Afrikanervrou se regte ook beskerm word. Ons aanvallers, verkragters

en moordenaars moet deur strenger wetgewing afgeskrik word en deur

’n effektiewer regstelsel gestraf word. In ’n land met so ’n hoë

misdaadsyfer is strenger vonnisse nodig. Meer as ooit is die

Afrikanervrou betrokke by uitreikaksies in haar breë gemeenskap, en
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speel sy ’n onmisbare rol in die bemagtiging en opheffing van

voorheen benadeelde Suid-Afrikaners.

Afrikanervroue neem deel op alle terreine en verskeie prestasies is

opgeteken – ook buite die sakewêreld. Tans verteenwoordig van hulle

Suid-Afrika by die Olimpiese Spele. Verlede maand het die kroon vir

Mevrou Verenigde Nasies Internasionaal na Suid-Afrika gekom, en

onlangs is ’n Oscar van Hollywood na ons land gebring.

Ten slotte haal ek graag prof Christina Landman graag aan, en dit is

spesiaal vir al die vroue wat vandag hier sit: (Translation of

Afrikaans paragraphs follows)

[Mrs D VAN DER WALT: Chairperson and hon members, South Africa

celebrated National Women’s Day on 9 August - an important day on

the annual calendar on which we give recognition to women for their

various achievements, their contributions, their dedication and

their aspirations to uplift their communities, their own

circumstances and to help build a better South Africa for all.

With the celebration by women of a decade of freedom en route to

total emancipation, it is necessary that we also acknowledge the

Afrikaner woman, her history and her future. The Anglo-Boer War

radically changed the lifestyle of the Afrikaner woman. Because of

the role that she played, she was regarded as the pillar of the
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nation. She would remind her husband of his obligation towards his

fatherland and inspire him through her own bravery and spiritual

support. She was wife, mother, and even shoemaker and cattle-driver.

In the rural areas she also had to take charge of farming

activities. She possessed a unique quality of perseverance.

Afrikaner women had already, at that stage, extended a hand to the

needy in order to bring relief in the midst of severe distress and

pain, and assisted with the upliftment process. Mention should to be

made of a meeting held in Paarl on 10 November 1900. This meeting

would go down as the first women’s congress in South Africa. The

various women’s organisations that are today still involved in

social welfare services and upliftment programmes, originated during

that period.

Acknowledgement should definitely also be given to the Afrikaner

women who fought successfully to secure voting rights for women in

1930. The years that followed saw the Afrikaner woman increasingly

take advantage of teaching and career opportunities to establish

themselves in the professional world, be it in the professional,

academic, business or informal sector. In the late eighties various

Afrikaans business women’s clubs, as well a national council for

business women, were established. This organisation was later

incorporated into the Afrikaanse Handelsinstituut.
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Talented Afrikaner women also made a name for themselves in the

entertainment industry, and in the world of beauty pageants, even a

Miss World title was brought home.

Nevertheless, in spite of qualifications and experience, it was

mainly our male counterparts who occupied most of the directorships

and senior management positions. With the advent of the new

democracy in 1994, it was acknowledged that women were historically

the second largest disadvantaged group in South Africa. Laws have

subsequently been put in place to eradicate these imbalances. Today

the concept of gender equality is universally accepted.

The Bill of Rights, as contained in the Constitution of South

Africa, is very clear about this. However, one can’t help but pose

the question: Do women, including Afrikaner women, really have the

same rights as men? Is this reflected in the workplace, and do women

get the same financial opportunities as men? Although progress has

been made in the last decade, there are still many social and

financial issues that have to be addressed in order to really place

women on a par with men in this regard. A question that is often

posed and which needs urgent attention is: For how long will issues

regarding racial equality still continue to dominate gender


A major source of concern for the Afrikaner woman is the matter of

mother-tongue instruction at schools. Once again we are protected in
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this area by the Bill of Rights, but all too often, the ANC

government unfairly ignores this matter.

As in the case of all other women in South Africa, the Afrikaner

woman’s rights should also be protected. Tougher laws to deter our

assailants, rapists and murderers and a more effective justice

system to punish these perpetrators, should be implemented. In a

country with such a high crime rate, more severe sentences are

required. The Afrikaner woman is now, more than ever, involved in

outreach programmes in her broader community and plays an

indispensable role in empowering and uplifting previously

disadvantaged South Africans.

Afrikaner women participate in all spheres and have accomplished

much - also outside the business world. At present some of them are

representing South Africa at the Olympic Games. Last month South

Africa won the crown of Mrs United Nations International, and

recently an Oscar was brought from   Hollywood to our country.

In conclusion, I would like to quote Prof Christina Landman, and

this is for all the women sitting here today:]

 Sometimes I think there should be a TRC for the women of

 South Africa that will give women a public voice on their

 sufferings and conquests. In the process women will learn words

 from one another on how to name their sorrows and victories. It
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 will give ears to the public to hear their voices and those who

 stole women’s self-esteem from them will be given a chance to

 apply for amnesty.

I thank you. [Applause.]

Nk P N MNANDI: Sihlalo woshlalo, Sekela Somlomo, boNgqongqoshe

nabakhona la endlini, bahlonishwa, maqabane nezihlobo, okokuqala

engicela ukukwenza ukuba ngibingelele kubo bonke abaholi be-ANC

Women’s League abakhona la kule Ndlu. Okwesibili ngicela ukuthi

ngiphinde ngibonge komama abasiholileyo nathi kwaze kwaba lapha.

Labo ngomama abanjengomama uNjobe, umama uGcina nomama uBertha

nabanye. Sifike sibancane basikhulisa ngebele labo.

Le nyanga kaMandulo yinyanga ebaluleke kabi kithina singomama

baseNingizimu Afrika. Okokuqala, mangibonge uHulumeni oholwa

uKhongolose owenzile ukuthi umhla ka-9 ku-Agasti ube yiholide.


Izinhlelo zamazwe amaningi omhlaba zikhombisile ukuthi izinhlelo

eziningi zokuthuthukisa abantu besifazane kwezomnotho ziyaye

zithathe umkhakha wezenhlalakahle kumbe izinhlelo zokwenza abantu

besifazane bahlale njalo bekhangeza. Azikubheki ukuzimela gelekeqe

kwabantu besifazane ngokwezomnotho. Abaningi baba ngabasebenzi kumbe

babe ngabadayisi emgwaqeni noma babe namabhizinisi amancane

amfimfayo, afaka nje kuphela okuya ngezansi kwekhala. Make ngibuyele
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emuva kancane. Ngaphansi kukaHulumeni wobandlululo abantu besifazane

kuleli zwe babeyinebetholo. Kwakungekho zinhlelo kumbe imithetho

eyayishaywa kuleNdlu ukuqinisekisa ukuthi omama bayatomula

emnothweni waleli zwe, ngisho nabesifazane abamhlophe imbala

abazange babhekelelwe, babeyizicashalala nje zamadoda.

Kule nyanga kaMandulo namhlanje singomama baseNingizimu Afrika,

sijabulela izwe lethu. Kulo nyaka nakule nyanga sihalalisa uHulumeni

wabantu obuyise isithunzi sethu wenza kwaba mnandi ukuba ngumama.

Halala Khongolose, Halala!

Okokuqala, mangithulele uKhongolose isigqoko ngalo mthetho oshaywe

kule Ndlu ngo-2003 obizwa ngokuthi ukhukhulelangoqo wokuthuthukisa

osozimboni abamnyama. NgolukaJoji kuthiwa yi-broad based black

empowerment. Lo mthetho uthi mazande izimboni zabantu abamnyama kthi

izimboni zakithi ziphathwe ngumphakathi, abasebenzi, okopeletsheni,

njalo njalo. Ngamanye amazwi, umnotho awuphathwe ngokuhlanganyela,

banciphe ogimbela kwesakhe. Abantu abamnyama mabathuthukiswe

emakhonweni ahlukene. Izimali azifakwe kulezi zimboni eziphethwe

ngabantu abamnyama ngokuhlanganyela. Lo mthetho uhlose ukuqeda nya

leli gebe elikhona kulo mnotho waleli zwe ohlukene kabili.

Izifundiswa-ke zona zithi ``This law aims to merge the two economies

in South Africa.’’ [Lo mthetho uqonde ukuhlanganisa iminotho emibili

yaseNingizimu Afrika.]
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Abantu besifazane sebeqalile ukuhlomula futhi basazohlomula kakhulu

kulo mthetho. Namhlanje somlomo siza nazo, wena yiza nendlebe.

Ngeyethu le nyanga ngakho siyagiya siyaqephuza.   Okokuqala,

mangibopnge kuNgqongqoshe uMaMlambo nekomidi lomNyango weziMbiwa

naMandla. Basebenzile ngokuthuthukisa abantu besifazane kulo

mkhakha. Phela ngesikhathi sobandlululo lo mkhakha ubungu-alibhadwa

kubantu besifazane. Sibonga ukusungulwa kweSawima. NgolukaJoji

kuthiwa yi-South African Women in Mining Association. Namhlanje

abantu besifazane bomdabu sebenakho ukuthola amalungelo okumba

amagugu ngaphansi komhlaba. Bayakwazi ukuba ngabanikazi bezimayini.

Ngonyaka ka-2003 kube nezinkampani ezingama-50 ezibhaliswe

ngokusemthethweni zomama.

ENdwedwe kwaZulu-Natali kunomama abamba ikhawolini, lena

esetshenziswa ezingqwembeni zezincwadi, ecwebezelayo, esetshenziswa

nasezitinini ezifakwa phansi ezindlini. Laphaya eNewcastle,

Osizweni, kwaZulu-Natali, omama bamba ubumba olubomvu lokwakha

izitini. Namhlanje banenkampani esebenza ihlangene noCorobrik.

Laphaya eBaberton kube nobugebengu obuningi bokwebiwa kwegolide.

Abantu bebesebenzisa imekhyuri ekugezeni leli golide. Le mekhyuri

eyingozi enkulu ezingozini zabo. IMintec ifike yenza izinhlelo

zokuthi abantu balimbe leli golide ngokusemthetweni, kwaqedwa nya

ukusetshenziswa kwemekhyuri. ELimpopo naseMpumalanga abantu baye

babuyiselwa umhlaba wabo waseMotubatse okutholakale kuwona izimayini

ezinhlanu zeplatinamu. Lezi zimayini zizovulwa khona maduzane,

abantu baseMotubatse besifazane bazolhlomula kakhulu kulezi
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zimayini. Nanku omunye umthetho oshayiwe bakwethu. Ngumthetho othi

ngeke kube saba khona izimbiwa zakuleli ezizothunyelwa kwamanye

amazwe ziluhlaza cwe. Ngalo mthetho sekwande abantu besifazane

abapholisha amadayimane, ngisho nabakha izinhlobonhlobo zobucwebe.

Izinto ziguqukile eNingizimu Afrika madoda. Namhlanje abantu

besifazane baphakathi emgodini, emathunjini omhlaba, bagibela

izingolovane. Ukungena nje kukagesi ezindaweni zabantu abantulayo

kwenze omkhulu umehluko ezimpilweni zabantu besifazane. Sebeyakwazi

ukwenza izifundo zokubhala ezikoleni ebusuku.

Bakwethu, okwenziwe yilo mnyango kumnandi nasenhliziyweni. Kwehla

kamnandi wena owabona amafutha ehla ezindevini zika-Aroni.

[Ihlombe.] Nezimboni ezingaphansi kukaHulumeni zilibambile iqhaza

ekuthuthukiseni abantu besifazane ngakwezomnotho. U-Escom uye

wayivula indlela kubantu besifazane abaqhamuka emiphakathini

entulayo, abanamabhizinisi kanye nakubantu besifazane abathuthukiswa

ngokwezamakhono. U-Escom uyakholelwa ekutheni impilo engcono kubantu

incike kakhulu ekutheni bathuthuke ngokomnotho. U-Escom unohlelo

lokuthuthukisa abantu besifazane abahlala ezindaweni zasemakhaya,

emkhakheni wobuchwepheshe nasezifundweni zezibalo zesayensi kanye

nezobunzululwazi. Sikhuluma nje kunabantu besifazane abangama-900

abaphothule izifundo zabo, bathola iziqu ze-MSC kwezokuphatha,

kwezezimboni nasebunjiniyeleni. Bonke basebenza kwa-Escom kumanje.

U-Escom njalo ngonyaka ukhipha imifundaze enikezwa abantu besifazane

abamnyama nabafunda izifundo zobunjiniyela. Kusukela ngo-2002 u-
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Escom uye wakwenza inqubo yakhe ukuthi uma bedinga abakhiqizi

umsebenzi lowo unikwe izimboni eziphethwe ngabantu abamnyama

besifazane, aphinde futhi abaqeqeshe emikhakheni eyahlukene.

Kuyacaca ukuthi kuningi uHulumeni nezimboni zakhe akwenzayo

ukuthuthukisa izimpilo zabantu besifazane bakithi. Kodwa sikhuluma

nje namhlanje ngokuthuthukiswa kwabantu besifazane kwezomnotho, lo

mnotho esikhuluma ngawo wakuleli usezandleni zobani na. Usaphethwe

yibo ongxiwankulu ngaphansi kwezimboni eziphethwe eceleni. Abanye

babo bayezwa uma uHulumeni eyihlahla indlela, abanye lolu daba

balubona kalufifi. Abanye basabambelele ekutheni bona bangogimbela


Kusekhona ukuxhashazwa okuningi kwabantu besifazane ezimbonini

zangasese. Uma uya ezimbonini ezidayisa ngokudla lapho iningi lethu

lithenga khona ukudla, uthola ukuthi baningi abasebenzi besifazane

bayitoho, abanawo amalungelo kanti abakwazi nokujoyina izinyunyana.

Kuyakhanya bha ukuthi uHulumeni oholwa nguKhongolose ufuna omame

bakuleli bawuthathe ube sezandleni zabo umnotho wale lizwe, bangabi

okhangezile, ngoba uKhongolose uyaholelwa ekutheni impilo engcono

komama yimpilo engcono emndenini ngamunye. Impilo engcono emndenini

ngamunye, yimpilo engcono emphakathini wonkana. Impilo engcono

emphakathini wonkana yimpilo engcono esizweni sonke. Umnotho kumama,

wumnotho wesizwe. [Ihlombe.] (Translation of Zulu speech follows.)
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[Mrs P N MNANDI: Chair of Chairs, Deputy Speaker, Ministers present

in this House, hon members, comrades and relatives, firstly, I would

like to greet all the leaders of ANC Women’s League who are present

in this House. Secondly, I would like to thank the women who have

led us up to now. Those are women like Madam Njobe, Madam Gcina,

Madam Bertha and others. We came here very young but we grew because

they breast-fed us.

This month of August is the most important month to us as women of

South Africa. Firstly, let me thank the government led by the ANC

who made it possible for this day of   9 August to become a public

holiday. [Applause.]

Programmes of many countries have indicated that many programmes of

economic empowerment for women take the route of welfare or

programmes that make women to be always dependent. They do not

consider total independence for women in the economy. Most of them

become ordinary workers, hawkers or own small businesses, providing

enough only for food. May I go back a little bit. During the

apartheid government women were nonentities in this country. There

were no programmes or laws made in this House to see to it that

women had a proper share in the economy of this country. Even the

white women were not protected; they were subservient to men.
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Today, in this month of August, we as women of South Africa are

happy for our country. This year and this month we congratulate the

democratic government that brought back our dignity and made

motherhood enjoyable. Halala, [congratulations,] ANC, Halala!

Firstly, may I admire the ANC for the rule made in this House in

2003 regarding something called black empowerment. In English its

full name is broad based black empowerment. This law says, let there

be more companies for the black people. The communities, employees,

corporations, etc, must manage these companies. In other words, the

economy should be shared and there must be a decrease of those

individuals who want to monopolise the economy.

Black people must be trained in different skills. Funds must be

given to those companies run by black people working together. This

law aims to close the gap we have in this country’s economy that is

divided into two. The learned say this law aims to merge the two

economies in South Africa.

Women have started to benefit and they are still going to benefit

more under this law. Today, Madam Speaker, we are telling you, lend

us your ear. This is our month, and so we are dancing. Firstly, may

I thank the hon Minister Mamlambo and the committee on minerals and

energy. They have done a good job by empowering women in this

department. During the apartheid era this department was a no-go

area to women. We are thankful for the initiative of Sawima. In
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English its full name is the South African Women in Mining

Association. Today black women have rights to dig for valuables

underground. They are able to own mines. In the year 2003 there were

50 companies that were legally registered in the name of women.

In Endwedwe, KwaZulu–Natal, there are women digging a mineral called

ikhawolini. Used in book covers, it is shiny. It is also used in

floor tiles. In KwaZulu-Natal, Newcastle, Osizweni, women dig for

red clay used to make bricks. Today they have their own company and

they are working together with Corobrik. In Barberton there was a

high rate of gold smuggling. People were using mercury to wash gold.

This mercury is a high risk in their lives. Then Mintec came up with

programmes for digging this gold legally, and thus the usage of

mercury was completely stopped. In Limpopo and Mpumalanga there was

land restitution at Motubatse, where five platinum mines were

discovered. These mines will be opened very soon; the women of

Motubatse will benefit a lot from these mines. People, here is

another law that has been passed. The law says there will be no more

minerals from this country that will be exported without being

processed. Through this law there has been an increase in the number

of females who polish diamonds and those who design different kinds

of jewellery. Things have changed in South Africa. Today women are

inside the mines, underground, driving the mine trains. The

installation of electricity in areas for poor communities has made a

great difference in women’s lives. They are now able to do literacy

studies at night schools.
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People, what this department did brought tremendous happiness. It is

very good. [Applause.] Even the companies under the government are

playing a crucial role in empowering women economically. Eskom paved

the way for women from poor communities, those who own businesses

and women who are empowered through skills. Eskom believes that a

better life for people is in line with economic empowerment. Eskom

has a programme for empowering women living in rural areas, in

technology and studies like science, mathematics and philosophy. As

we are talking there are 900 women who have completed their studies,

and have graduated with an M S in management, mining and

engineering. Now they are all working at Eskom.

Every year Eskom gives bursaries to black women who are studying

engineering. As from 2002 Eskom made it their procedure that if they

need manufacturers the tenders will be given to companies run by

black women, and that they will further train them in different

fields. It is clear that the government and its companies are doing

a lot to empower the lives of our women. However, today, as we are

talking about empowerment in the economy, in whose hands is the

economy that we are talking about? It is still in the hands of

whites in private companies. Some understand that the Government is

paving the way; others still have an unclear understanding of this

matter. Others still regard themselves as being envied.
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There is still a lot of abuse of women in private companies. If you

go to supermarkets where the majority of us shop, you find that many

women work as casuals, they do not have rights and they cannot even

join unions. It is very clear that the ANC government wants the

women of this country to take the economy of this country into their

hands. They must not be beggars because the ANC believes that a

better life for women is a better life for each family. A better

life for a family is a better life for the community at large. A

better life for the community at large is a better life for the

whole country. An economy for women is an economy for the country.


Ms C S BOTHA: Chairperson, I wanted to say that we have to look no

further than this House to see more than a hundred reasons why we

are celebrating women’s emancipation. I am afraid you will have to

use your imagination a bit, looking at these empty benches.

The opportunities which democracy and the end of apartheid brought

to us are nowhere more visibly illustrated than by the phenomenal

progress made in female representation in Parliament, and indeed in

all spheres of government. This is no less remarkable an achievement

for the men of South Africa, who have had to make a radical paradigm

shift to accommodate these changes.

The emancipation of women is after all intimately part of the larger

context of gender, society and democracy. Nor can we forget that we
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have come to these positions through the votes, political

participation and sacrifices of millions of women whose lives have

not been changed. Our celebration must therefore constantly be

viewed against the backdrop of those women who live with faith, hope

and little else.

I think the title of this debate is particularly apposite. Our ten

years of freedom is but the beginning of our emancipation. It

reminds me of President Kennedy at the Berlin Wall when he said,

“Ich bin ein Berliner”, illustrating the indivisibility of freedom.

And yet as dramatically as the fall of the wall was an end to an

era, more importantly, it was simply the beginning of another of

life’s unending challenges.

The groundwork which brought us together here was not created

overnight, but decade by decade women moved ahead in an incremental

fashion. Post-1945 women could only vote in 31 countries, yet at

that time the United Nations legally established gender equality as

a fundamental human right for the first time in history. This was

followed by decades of slow but undeniable advancement, marked by

the Mexico World Conference in 1975, the creation of Unifem, the

adoption of Cedaw in 1979, the acceptance in Nairobi in 1985 of the

forward-looking strategies for the advancement of women; and next

year will mark 10 years since the Beijing Platform was accepted in

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When the Women’s National Coalition drew up its widely researched

women’s charter for effective equality in 1994, much of what has

become commonplace today was simply a wish list then. Little did we

know then that our participation in the negotiations would become a

model for other countries in Africa and that we would be playing a

leading role in the governance of Africa; or that we would be

sharing our experiences with the women of the Congo, Burundi and

other African countries; or that we would become the subject of

Masters theses at many universities of the world.

Having gained international recognition, I believe we must return to

our roots, go back to the women whom we initially asked what they

wanted from the new South Africa, and measure in a transparent and

structured fashion whether we have delivered on their expectations.

When we meet, perhaps as the multiparty women’s caucus, let us set

aside our glad rags, don our working clothes, review our charter and

plan ahead for the next 10 years. Thank you. [Applause.]


unfortunate that a debate as important and as dignified as this one

is being turned into a racial debate by the hon Van der Walt, while

our Constitution rests on two fundamental principles, nonracialism

and nonsexism, which make all South Africans equal before the law.


Mr P J GROENEWALD: Do you understand Afrikaans?
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hear her taking a racial approach, portraying Afrikaner women as

victims who need special treatment and who need special attention,

forgetting that apartheid left our women without husbands. Apartheid

left our women maimed and with psychological scars - and some of

those women are in this House. [Applause.]

I think all women are subjected to social atrocities, whether black

or white, and they are entitled to the same protection and the same

privileges, regardless of race or creed.

HON MEMBERS: That is what she said!


said! [Interjections.]

The significance of this debate today is that it is a celebration of

the successful first 10 years of the ANC-led democratic rule in

South Africa. [Applause.] As we recount the achievements of the past

10 years we salute the women of this country for their countless

contributions to the country’s development and wellbeing, for their

achievements in business and sport, and for the quiet behind-the-

scenes role they play every day as workers, wives and mothers.
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Ngakumbi lawo makhosikazi ayehleli ezimisele ukuyibamba ngobukhali

bayo imela esilwela inkululeko. Kule nyanga yamakhosikazi yomnyaka

weshumi sixhamla inkululeko, kumele ukuba sikhangele umgama else

siwuhambile singurhulumente wedemokhrasi kwiinkalo zonke

ezichaphazela ubomi babantu belizwe lethu. Nanjengoko ezi nkalo

zobomi zazityhefwe yinkqubo ye-apartheid eankile yayo

yayilucalucalulo ngokwebala, nto leyo ethetha ukuba abantu

ababeligcudwana lobandlululo babenamalungelo abhetele kunabantwana


Isihloko sam ke namhlanje siza kugxininisa kumcimbi wamanzi nomhlaba

ezisesazulwini sobutyebi kweli lizwe lethu nakwilizwekazi leAfrika.

Kambe ke phambi kokuba ndingene kulo mba, ndingathanda ukulanda

imvelaphi enkokelele kwiimeko zentlupheko ezihlula ubutyebi belizwe

lethu bube ntlantlu-mbini, le nto uMongameli athi yi-first ne-second

economy. Ndivumeleni ke ndiwuzobe ngesilungu lo mfanekiso.

(Translation of Xhosa paragraphs follows.)

[This is especially true of those women who were prepared to take a

knife by its sharp point in fighting for freedom. In this month of

women, celebrating ten years of democracy, we are supposed to look

at our progress as the government of democracy in all spheres that

concern the lives of the people of our country. These spheres of

life were poisoned by the programme of apartheid with its anchor of

racism. This means that the minority of racists had better rights

than African people.
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My main topic will focus on the issue of water and land, which is

central to wealth in our country and on the African continent.

Before I can talk about this issue I would like to talk about the

background that led to the conditions of suffering that divide the

wealth of our country into what are referred to by the President as

the first and second economies. Allow me to paint this picture in


The 1913 Land Act, as we all know, dispossessed the indigenous

people of their major capital asset, the land, and the present

government is dealing with the consequences of this situation to

date. Realising the importance of water to ensure productivity of

the land, the colonial powers instituted the Water Conservation Act

in 1936, which gave water rights to land owners. Those rights were

known as riparian rights. These rights effectively meant that while

the people were tilling the land for the enrichment of the minority

colonists, they had to get permission to use water for their own

consumption; and obviously they would not be getting much from the

harvest they toiled for, the produce of the land, which originally

belonged to them.

The frustration of losing agricultural land can be understood in the

following, expressed by Tsitsi Dangarembga, a Zimbabwean woman

writer, who says about land dispossession:
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 Wizards who were well versed in treachery and black magic came

 from the south and forced the people from the land on donkey, on

 foot, on horse or on ox cart. The people looked for a place to

 live, but the wizards were avaricious and grasping. [Applause.]

 There was less and less land for the people. At last the people

 came upon the grey, sandy soil of the homestead, so stony and

 barren that the wizard would not use it.

Bawuthatha ngokunyoluka umhlaba bashiya owona ungatsitsi nto. [They

took this land with greed and left the arid land.]

President Mkaba, expressing the same frustration only yesterday at

the SADC summit meeting in Mauritius, said:

    Let the outside world understand that to us Africans land is

    much more than a means of production. We are spiritually

    anchored in the lands of our ancestors.

The situation I have described above was a double-edged sword for

women who suffered both class and gender discrimination. Indeed,

they suffered the consequences of the poverty of blackness on one

hand, and the weight of womanhood on the other.

The legacy that the ANC government found as a consequence of these

discriminatory laws, mainly the Land Act of 1913 and the Water

Conservation Act of 1936, impoverished women the most, hence they
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are the majority of those who are affected by asset capital poverty.

On the other hand, lack of access to clean water, which is a major

tool for protecting human capital, subjected women to social asset

poverty. In a nutshell, this was the situation when the ANC took

over governance in this country in 1994.

At the time of taking over government, the ANC had been ready to

govern. In 1955 the Freedom Charter already outlined a broad policy

framework, which was the basis for taking our country forward, and

at the core of the Freedom Charter is the element of nonsexism and


The Reconstruction and Development Programme that followed provided

some practical steps towards achieving a nonsexist and nonracial

South Africa through the principle of nation-building and building

the economy through redistribution. As the ANC, we declared that 30%

of agricultural land would be given back to previously disadvantaged

communities. This was a double benefit for the black women of this

country, as it addressed their discrimination along class and gender


These principles were later integrated into the Constitution and

over the past 10 years they were translated into a legislative

framework that is deliberately biased towards women and their

rights. Today we have the Land Restitution Act and all other laws

that create an enabling environment. Of about 800 pieces of
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legislation passed since the birth of democracy in 1994, the

National Water Act and the Land Restitution Act are some of those

that have been instrumental in facilitating gender mainstreaming in

our socioeconomic development programmes, especially in the rural


We have programmes for female farmers, among them a project which

Minister Didiza is launching today in Ngadini, which is benefiting

about 12 families, the majority of which are headed by women. These

families are getting 124 hectares of land.

The Department of Water Affairs and Forestry also has a resource-

poor farmers’ support programme from which women can benefit. This

programme will help to ensure that women have access to water for

their crops.

One of the most important features in the achievements of the first

decade of democracy is that we have supplied water to about 10

million people in our country, and this is a fact known the world

over. The beneficiaries have mainly been women and girls who both

have to walk long distances to carry water. It is also women who

care for children and the aged who fall ill as a result of using

impure water. We have also ensured that even the poorest members of

our society have access to basic services through the provision of

basic water and electricity.
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I want to mention one woman who understands fully the

interrelatedness of water and soil for poverty alleviation, Matshepo

Khumbane. She trains women in efficient water use, crop production

and business management. Matshepo’s integrated approach to the

utilisation of land for poverty alleviation and wealth creation is a

good and practical model for the realisation of government’s

integrated approach to socioeconomic development.

In the area of forestry, which has previously been dominated by male

and pale people, about 60% of the beneficiaries of the outgrowers

scheme in Northern KwaZulu-Natal have been women. As we celebrate 10

years of women’s contribution to democracy, we also take this

opportunity to identify the gaps and challenges that will fit into

our future programmes of service delivery, understood in the context

of the targets of the current financial year as reflected in the

state of the nation address by the President this year; as well as

our own 2014 vision as South Africans and our contribution to the

millennium development goals.

Somlomo, naxa sele umde umgama esiwuhambileyo ukuphucula intlalo

yabantu nokuvula amathuba, ndifuna ukukhumbuza le Ndlu ukuba

sisenoxanduva singoomama, singootata, singuRhulumente, singamalungu

ale Ndlu yoWiso-Mthetho, lokuqinisekisa ukuba okokuqala, uluntu,

ngakumbi oomama, luyazifumana iinkcukacha ngeenkonzo zikaRhulumente.

Kufuneka siye emaphandleni sibanike ulwazi. Siyaqhubeka ke

ngeemfundiso nangamalungelo oomama ingakumbi kumakhosikazi
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asesemaphandleni kwaye sibakhuthaza kananjalo ukuba bawalwele

amalungelo abo ngalo lonke ixesha. Masiwakhuthaze amakhosikazi

asebenzisane ukuze siyilwe iphele gqibelele indlala. Oomama

mabancede bankqonkqoze kwiminyango kaRhulumente ukuze bafumane

uncedo kwiingxaki abanazo. Lo Rhulumente ngowabo, uvotelwe ngabo.

[Kwaqhwatywa.] Konke oku kuza kuqinisekisa ukuba indlala siza

kuyigweba yaye siqinisekisa ukuba amakhosikazi jikelele ayaxhamla

kubutyebi beli lizwe. (Translation of Xhosa paragraph follows.)

[Madam Speaker, even though we have come a long way in improving the

lives of people and creating opportunities, I want to remind this

House that we still have a responsibility as women, as men, as the

government and as members of the National Assembly, of ensuring,

firstly, that people and especially women get details about

Government services in particular. We need to go to the rural areas

and give them information. We will continue the education about

women’s rights, especially women in the rural areas, and we

encourage them to fight for their rights all the time. We must

encourage women to work together so that we fight poverty and uproot

it. Women must please visit Government offices so that they can get

help with problems they have. This Government is theirs, it was

voted in by them. [Applause.] All this will ensure that poverty is

going to end, and also that women in general will benefit from the

economy of this country.]
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I would like to urge women to put into use the words of the

President during his address at the national women’s event at

Witbank when he said: “Do not be afraid to stand up against the

strongest for the right thing.”

Amakhosikazi anamandla okuguqula nayiphina imeko yaye anawo

namalungelo aze nale nkululeko. [Women have the power to change any

situation and they have the rights brought about by this freedom.]

In conclusion, I wish to read the following poem drawn from the

words of women at a women’s resource access programme workshop in


Land is might, land is right;

Land is water, land is shelter;

Land is dignity, land is honour;

Land is our mother.

Let us promise each other

That it will not be for barter.

Let us unite to save it from exploiters.

Women need forests,

Women need water,

Access to education and to power,

Freedom from bondage,

Freedom from hunger.

Let us bring them their honour.
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Land to women is actually revolution

As it saves children from malnutrition

And it makes families function.

Phambili nedabi lokulwa indlala echaphazela amakhosikazi, phambili!

Phambili nokulima umhlaba! Masibambane, sincedisane, sixhasane, siye

enkululekweni egqibeleleyo yamakhosikazi. Ndiyabulela. [Uwelewele.]

[Kwaqhwatywa.] (Translation of Xhosa paragraph follows.)

[Forward with the struggle of fighting poverty that affects women,

forward! Forward with farming the land! We must unite, help each

other, support each other, and move towards sound democracy on the

part of women. Thank you. [Interjections.][Applause.]]

Debate concluded.

The House adjourned at 17:45.



                          MONDAY, 28 JUNE 2004


National Assembly
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1.   The Speaker

     Letter from the Minister of Arts and Culture to the Speaker of the National

     Assembly, in terms of section 65(2)(a) of the Public Finance Management Act,

     1999 (Act No 1 of 1999), explaining the delay in the tabling of the Annual Report

     of the National Library of South Africa for 2002-2003:

          Dear Madam Speaker

          In terms of section 65(1)(a) of the above-mentioned Act the annual report and

          financial statements, and the audit reports on those statements, of The National

          Library of South Africa have not been tabled due to logistical reasons.

          The Annual Report, Financial Statements and the Audit Report of the National

          Library of South Africa for 2002-2003 were only finalised at the end of February

          2004 and will be tabled at the first available opportunity.

          Yours sincerely


          DR Z P JORDAN

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National Assembly

CREDA INSERT REPORT - Insert No 1 from "ATC0628e"

CREDA INSERT REPORT - Insert No 2 from "ATC0628e"

                                     TUESDAY, 29 JUNE 2004


National Assembly and National Council of Provinces

1.   Translations of Bills submitted

     (1)   The Minister of Finance

           (i)   Wysigingswetsontwerp op Belastingwette [W 8 - 2004] (National Assembly - sec 77)

           This is the official translation into Afrikaans of the Taxation Laws Amendment Bill [B 8 -

           2004] (National Assembly - sec 77).


National Assembly and National Council of Provinces
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1.   The Speaker and the Chairperson

     Submission of the Financial and Fiscal Commission on the Division of Revenue Bill for 2005-

     2006, tabled in terms of section 9 of the Intergovernmental Fiscal Relations Act, 1997 (Act No

     97 of 1997).

2.   The Minister of Correctional Services

     Report of the Judicial Inspectorate on Prisons and Prisoners for 2003-2004 [RP 72-2004].


National Assembly

1.   Report of the Ad Hoc Committee on Science and Technology on Budget Vote 18 - Science

     and Technology, dated 23 June 2004:

          The Ad Hoc Committee on Science and Technology, having considered Budget Vote 18 -

          Science and Technology, reports that it has concluded its deliberations thereon.

                                 WEDNESDAY, 30 JUNE 2004


National Assembly and National Council of Provinces

1.   Bills passed by Houses - to be submitted to President for assent
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     (1)   Bills passed by National Council of Provinces on 30 June 2004:

           (i)    Appropriation Bill [B 3 - 2004] (National Assembly - sec 77)

           (ii)   Taxation Laws Amendment Bill [B 8 - 2004] (National Assembly - sec 77)


National Assembly and National Council of Provinces

1.   The Minister for Safety and Security

     Draft Directions by the National Commissioner of the South African Police Service, in

     terms of section 34(3)(c) of the Prevention and Combating of Corrupt Activities Act,

     2004 (Act No 12 of 2004).

2.   The Minister of Water Affairs and Forestry

     Government Notice No 732 published in Government Gazette No 26295 dated 30 April

     2004: Request for written comments are invited from the public on the Draft Water

     Services Amendment Bill and Explanatory Memorandum.
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                                     THURSDAY, 1 JULY 2004


National Assembly and National Council of Provinces

1.   The Minister of Water Affairs and Forestry

     (a)   Government Notice No 663 published in Government Gazette No 26407 dated 28 May

           2004: Prohibition on the making of fires in open air, the destruction by burning slash and

           clearing or maintenance of firebelts by burning and the execution of block-burns Vhembe

           District Municipality (formerly Soutpansberg areas), in terms of the Forest Act, 1984 (Act

           No 122 of 1984).

     (b)   Government Notice No 664 published in Government Gazette No 26407 dated 28 May

           2004: Prohibition on the making of fires in open air, the destruction by burning slash and

           clearing or maintenance of firebelts by burning and the execution of block-burns Mopane

           District Municipality (formerly Letaba and Pietersburg Districts), in terms of the Forest Act,

           1984 (Act No 122 of 1984).

     (c)   Government Notice No 665 published in Government Gazette No 26407 dated 28 May

           2004: Prohibition on the making of fires in open air, the destruction by burning slash and

           clearing or maintenance of firebelts by burning and the execution of block-burns: Districts

           of (a) Ermelo, Eerstehoek, Carolina and Waterval-Boven, (b) Piet Retief and

           Wakkerstroom, in terms of the Forest Act, 1984 (Act No 122 of 1984).

     (d)   Government Notice No 666 published in Government Gazette No 26407 dated 28 May

           2004: Prohibition on the making of fires in open air, the destruction by burning slash and
                                             PAGE 160

           clearing or maintenance of firebelts by burning and the execution of block-burns: Districts

           of Nelspruit, White River, Pilgrim's Rest, Lydenburg, Belfast, Waterval-Boven, Carolina

           and Barberton, in terms of the Forest Act, 1984 (Act No 122 of 1984).

     (e)   Government Notice No 667 published in Government Gazette No 26407 dated 28 May

           2004: Prohibition on the making of fires in open air, the destruction by burning slash and

           clearing or maintenance of firebelts by burning and the execution of block-burns:

           KwaZulu-Natal, in terms of the Forest Act, 1984 (Act No 122 of 1984).

                                     THURSDAY, 8 JULY 2004


National Assembly and National Council of Provinces

1.   Introduction of Bills

     (1)   The Minister of Minerals and Energy

           (i)   Energy Regulator Bill [B 9 - 2004] (National Assembly - sec 75) [Explanatory

                 summary of Bill and prior notice of its introduction published in Government Gazette

                 No 25994 of 6 February 2004.]

           Introduction and referral to the Portfolio Committee on Minerals and Energy of the

           National Assembly, as well as referral to the Joint Tagging Mechanism (JTM) for

           classification in terms of Joint Rule 160, on 9 July 2004.
                                              PAGE 161

           In terms of Joint Rule 154 written views on the classification of the Bill may be submitted

           to the Joint Tagging Mechanism (JTM) within three parliamentary working days.

2.   Draft Bills submitted in terms of Joint Rule 159

     (1)   Energy Regulator Bill, 2004, submitted by the Minister of Minerals and Energy on 2 July

           2004. Referred to the Portfolio Committee on Minerals and Energy and the Select

           Committee on Economic and Foreign Affairs.

     (2)   Sterilisation Amendment Bill, 2004, submitted by the Minister of Health on 28 June 2004.

           Referred to the Portfolio Committee on Health and the Select Committee on Social


National Assembly

1.   Members of Rules Committee

     African National Congress

           Appointed: Baloyi, Mr M R

           Appointed: Bhengu, Mr F (Alt)

           Appointed: Jeffery, Mr J H

           Discharged: Oosthuizen, Mr G C

           Appointed: Sithole, Mr D J (Alt)

2.   Referrals to committees of papers tabled
                                        PAGE 162

The following papers have been tabled and are now referred to the relevant committees as

mentioned below:

(1)   The following papers are referred to the Portfolio Committee on Water Affairs and

      Forestry and the Portfolio Committee on Environmental Affairs and Tourism:

      (a)   Government Notice No 663 published in Government Gazette No 26407 dated 28

            May 2004: Prohibition on the making of fires in open air, the destruction by burning

            slash and clearing or maintenance of firebelts by burning and the execution of

            block-burns Vhembe District Municipality (formerly Soutpansberg areas), in terms of

            the Forest Act, 1984 (Act No 122 of 1984).

      (b)   Government Notice No 664 published in Government Gazette No 26407 dated 28

            May 2004: Prohibition on the making of fires in open air, the destruction by burning

            slash and clearing or maintenance of firebelts by burning and the execution of

            block-burns Mopane District Municipality (formerly Letaba and Pietersburg Districts),

            in terms of the Forest Act, 1984 (Act No 122 of 1984).

      (c)   Government Notice No 665 published in Government Gazette No 26407 dated 28

            May 2004: Prohibition on the making of fires in open air, the destruction by burning

            slash and clearing or maintenance of firebelts by burning and the execution of

            block-burns: Districts of (a) Ermelo, Eerstehoek, Carolina and Waterval-Boven, (b)

            Piet Retief and Wakkerstroom, in terms of the Forest Act, 1984 (Act No 122 of


      (d)   Government Notice No 666 published in Government Gazette No 26407 dated 28

            May 2004: Prohibition on the making of fires in open air, the destruction by burning

            slash and clearing or maintenance of firebelts by burning and the execution of
                                             PAGE 163

                 block-burns: Districts of Nelspruit, White River, Pilgrim's Rest, Lydenburg, Belfast,

                 Waterval-Boven, Carolina and Barberton, in terms of the Forest Act, 1984 (Act No

                 122 of 1984).

           (e)   Government Notice No 667 published in Government Gazette No 26407 dated 28

                 May 2004: Prohibition on the making of fires in open air, the destruction by burning

                 slash and clearing or maintenance of firebelts by burning and the execution of

                 block-burns: KwaZulu-Natal, in terms of the Forest Act, 1984 (Act No 122 of 1984).

                                       FRIDAY, 16 JULY 2004


National Assembly and National Council of Provinces

1.   Introduction of Bills

     (1)   The Minister of Trade and Industry

           (i)   Companies Amendment Bill [B 10 - 2004] (National Assembly - sec 75) [Explanatory

                 summary of Bill and prior notice of its introduction published in Government Gazette

                 No 26506 of 25 June 2004.]

           Introduction and referral to the Portfolio Committee on Trade and Industry of the

           National Assembly, as well as referral to the Joint Tagging Mechanism (JTM) for

           classification in terms of Joint Rule 160, on 15 July 2004.

     (2)   The Minister of Home Affairs
                                             PAGE 164

           (i)   Immigration Amendment Bill [B 11 - 2004] (National Assembly - sec 75)

                 [Explanatory summary of Bill and prior notice of its introduction published in

                 Government Gazette No 26507 of 24 June 2004.]

           Introduction and referral to the Portfolio Committee on Home Affairs of the National

           Assembly, as well as referral to the Joint Tagging Mechanism (JTM) for classification in

           terms of Joint Rule 160, on 15 July 2004.

     In terms of Joint Rule 154 written views on the classification of the Bills may be submitted to the

     JTM within three parliamentary working days.

2.   Draft Bills submitted in terms of Joint Rule 159

     (1)   Companies Amendment Bill, 2004, submitted by the Minister of Trade and Industry on 8

           June 2004. Referred to the Portfolio Committee on Trade and Industry and the Select

           Committee on Economic and Foreign Affairs.

National Assembly

1.   Appointment of Whips of the National Assembly

     African National Congress

           Baloyi, Mr M R

           Bapela, Mr K O

           Fihla, Mr N B

           Frolick, Mr C T
                               PAGE 165

Gumede, Mr D M

Jacobus, Ms L

Kannemeyer, Mr B W

Kondlo, Ms N C

Lekgoro, Mr M M S

Louw, Mr S K

Maloyi, Mr P D N

Malumise, Ms M M

Manie, Mr M S

Masutha, Mr T M

Maunye, Mrs M M

Mentor, Ms M P

Mnandi, Ms P N

Mngomezulu, Mr G P

Mofokeng, Mr T R

Moloto, Mr K A

Montsitsi, Mr S D

Motubatse-Hounkpatin, Ms S D

Mthethwa, Mr E N

Mzondeki, Mr M J G

Ngaleka, Ms E

Olifant, Mr D A A

Oliphant, Mr G G

Sefularo, Mr M

Sekgobela, Ms P S

Sosibo, Ms J E

Tshwete, Ms P

Van der Heever, Mr R P Z
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     With effect from 17 June 2004

Democratic Alliance

     Ellis, Mr M J

     Kalyan, Ms S V

     Lee, Mr T D

     Maluleke, Mr D K

     With effect from 23 April 2004

     Doman, Mr W P

     Schmidt, Mr H C

     With effect from 24 May 2004

Inkatha Freedom Party

     Mpontsane, Mr A M

     Seaton, Ms S A

     Van den Merwe, Mr J H

     With effect from 4 May 2004

United Democratic Movement

     Madikiza, Mr G T
                                      PAGE 167

     With effect from 23 April 2004

Independent Democrats

     Harding, Mr A

     With effect from 5 May 2004

New National Party

     Greyling, Mr C H F

     With effect from 4 May 2004

African Christian Democratic Party

     Green, Mr L M

     With effect from 3 May 2004

Freedom Front Plus, United Christian Democratic Party, Pan Africanist Congress of

Azania, Minority Front and Azanian Peoples' Organisation

     Mfundisi, Mr I S

     Mulder, Dr C P

     With effect from 5 May 2004
                                             PAGE 168

2.   Referrals to committees of papers tabled

     The following papers have been tabled and are now referred to the relevant committees as

     mentioned below:

     (1)   The following papers are referred to the Portfolio Committee on Finance:

           (a)   Report of the Executive Officer of the Financial Services Board on the Road

                 Accident Fund - 10th Report for 2002-2003.

           (b)   Report and Financial Statements of Sasria Limited for 2003.

           (c)   Government Notice No 445 published in Government Gazette No 26219 dated 31

                 March 2004: Supplementary adjustments to local government allocations for 2003-

                 2004 in terms of the Division of Revenue Act, 2003 (Act No 7 of 2003).

           (d)   Government Notice No 446 published in Government Gazette No 26220 dated 1

                 April 2004: Local Government allocations for 2004-2005 in terms of the Division of

                 Revenue Act, 2004 (Act No 5 of 2004).

           (e)   Government Notice No 444 published in Government Gazette No 26230 dated 1

                 April 2004: Allocations made to the provinces in terms of section 7 of the Division of

                 Revenue Act, 2004 (Act No 5 of 2004).

     (2)   The following paper is referred to the Portfolio Committee on Finance and the Portfolio

           Committee on Public Service and Administration:
                                        PAGE 169

      Government Notice No 423 published in Government Gazette No 26203 dated 31 March

      2004: Amendment of the Rules of the Government Employees Pension Fund in terms of

      the Government Employees Pension Law, 1996 (Act No 21 of 1996).

(3)   The following paper is referred to the Portfolio Committee on Arts and Culture and to

      the Standing Committee on Public Accounts for consideration:

      Letter from the Minister of Arts and Culture to the Speaker of the National Assembly, in

      terms of section 65(2)(a) of the Public Finance Management Act, 1999 (Act No 1 of 1999),

      explaining the delay in the tabling of the Annual Report of the National Library of South

      Africa for 2002-2003.

(4)   The following paper is referred to the Portfolio Committee on Finance and to the Joint

      Budget Committee for consideration:

      Submission of the Financial and Fiscal Commission on the Division of Revenue Bill for

      2005-2006, tabled in terms of section 9 of the Intergovernmental Fiscal Relations Act,

      1997 (Act No 97 of 1997).

(5)   The following paper is referred to the Portfolio Committee on Correctional Services:

      Report of the Judicial Inspectorate on Prisons and Prisoners for 2003-2004 [RP 72-2004].

(6)   The following paper is referred to the Portfolio Committee on Safety and Security:

      Draft Directions by the National Commissioner of the South African Police Service, in

      terms of section 34(3)(c) of the Prevention and Combating of Corrupt Activities Act, 2004

      (Act No 12 of 2004).
                                                PAGE 170

     (7)     The following paper is referred to the Portfolio Committee on Water Affairs and


             Government Notice No 732 published in Government Gazette No 26295 dated 30 April

             2004: Request for written comments are invited from the public on the Draft Water

             Services Amendment Bill and Explanatory Memorandum.


National Assembly and National Council of Provinces

1.   The Minister of Communications

     (a)     Decisions of the 1999 Beijing Congress - Universal Postal Union (Final Text of the Acts

             signed at Beijing), tabled in terms of section 231(2) of the Constitution, 1996.

     (b) Explanatory Memorandum to the Decisions of the 1999 Beijing Congress - Universal Postal


                                       THURSDAY, 29 JULY 2004


National Assembly and National Council of Provinces

1.   Assent by President in respect of Bills
                                              PAGE 171

     (1)   Postal Services Amendment Bill [B 40 - 2003] - Act No 33 of 2003 (assented to and

           signed by President on 9 July 2004).

     (2)   National Health Bill [B 32D - 2003] - Act No 61 of 2003 (assented to and signed by

           President on 18 July 2004).

     (3)   National Environmental Management Second Amendment Bill [B 56B - 2003] - Act No 8

           of 2004 (assented to and signed by President on 9 July 2004).

           NOTE: The name of the Act is the National Environmental Management Amendment Act,


     (4)   Communal Land Rights Bill [B 67D - 2003] - Act No 11 of 2004 (assented to and signed

           by President on 14 July 2004).

     (5)   Appropriation Bill [B 3 - 2004] - Act No 15 of 2004 (assented to and signed by President

           on 22 July 2004).

     (6)   Taxation Laws Amendment Bill [B 8 - 2004] - Act No 16 of 2004 (assented to and signed

           by President on 22 July 2004).

2.   Draft Bills submitted in terms of Joint Rule 159

     (1)   International Arbitration Bill, 2004, submitted by the Minister for Justice and Constitutional

           Development on 10 June 2004. Referred to the Portfolio Committee on Justice and

           Constitutional Development and the Select Committee on Security and

           Constitutional Affairs.
                                             PAGE 172

National Assembly

1.   Membership of Assembly

     The vacancy which occurred owing to Mr M M Masala vacating his seat in the National

     Assembly with effect from 29 June 2004, has been filled by the nomination of Mr P A C

     Hendrickse with effect from 21 July 2004.


National Assembly and National Council of Provinces

1.   The Minister of Finance

     (a)   Appointment of a Chairperson and Members to the Financial and Fiscal Commission

           (FFC), in terms of section 221(1) of the Constitution, 1996 (Act No 108 of 1996), section 5

           of the Financial and Fiscal Commission Act, 1997 (Act No 99 of 1997), and section 5 of

           the Organised Local Government Act, 1997 (Act No 52 of 1997).

     (b)   Government Notice No R788 published in Government Gazette No 26521 dated 30 June

           2004: Exemption in terms of section 74 of the Financial Intelligence Centre Act, 2001 (Act

           No 38 of 2001).

     (c)   Government Notice No 722 published in Government Gazette No 26510 dated 25 June

           2004: Commencement dates of certain sections of the Local Government: Municipal

           Finance Management Act, 2003 (Act No 56 of 2003).
                                            PAGE 173

     (d)   Government Notice No 1261 published in Government Gazette No 26513 dated 28 June

           2004: Draft Treasury Regulations published for public comment in terms of section 78 of

           the Public Finance Management Act, 1999 (Act No 1 of 1999).

     (e)   Government Notice No 773 published in Government Gazette No 26511 dated 1 July

           2004: Delays and exemptions in terms of section 177 of the Local Government: Municipal

           Finance Management Act, 2003 (Act No 56 of 2003).

     (f)   Government Notice No R749 published in Government Gazette No 26487 dated 21 June

           2004: Exemptions in terms of section 74 of the Financial Intelligence Centre Act, 2001

           (Act No 38 of 2001).

     (g)   Proclamation No R24 published in Government Gazette No 26231 dated 1 April 2004:

           Commencement of the Government Employees Pension Law Amendment Act, 2003 (Act

           No 35 of 2003).

     (h)   Government Notice No 569 published in Government Gazette No 26324 dated 31 April

           2004: Statement of the National and Provincial Governments' revenue, expenditure and

           national borrowing as at 31 March 2004 in terms of the Public Finance Management Act,

           1999 (Act No 1 of 1999) and Division of Revenue Act, 2003 (Act No 7 of 2003).

     (i)   Proclamation No 36 published in Government Gazette No 26522 dated 30 June 2004:

           Commencement of section 46(2) of the Financial Intelligence Centre Act, 2001 (Act No 38

           of 2001).

2.   The Minister of Water Affairs and Forestry
                                         PAGE 174

(a)   Government Notice No 824 published in Government Gazette No 26552 dated 16 July

      2004: Transformation of the Clanwilliam Irrigation Board, Magisterial district of

      Clanwilliam, Western Cape Province, into the Clanwilliam Water User Association, Water

      Management Area Number 17, Western Cape Province in terms of section 98(6) of the

      National Water Act, 1998 (Act No 36 of 1998).

(b)   Government Notice No 825 published in Government Gazette No 26552 dated 16 July

      2004: Establishment of the Vanderkloof Water User Association, Magisterial districts of

      Philipstown, Hopetown and Herbert situated in the Province of the Northern Cape and

      Fauresmith situated in the Province of the Free State, Water Management Area Number

      13 in terms of section 92(1) of the National Water Act, 1998 (Act No 36 of 1998).

(c)   Government Notice No 826 published in Government Gazette No 26552 dated 16 July

      2004: Transformation of the Koppies Irrigation Board, Magisterial districts of Koppies,

      Heilbron, Province of the Free State, into the Renoster River Water User Association,

      Water Management Area Number 9, Free State Province in terms of section 98(6) of the

      National Water Act, 1998 (Act No 36 of 1998).

(d)   Government Notice No 827 published in Government Gazette No 26552 dated 16 July

      2004: Establishment of the Stella Water User Association, Magisterial district of Vryburg,

      North West Province, Water Management Area Number 10 in terms of section 92(1) of

      the National Water Act, 1998 (Act No 36 of 1998).

(e)   Government Notice No 828 published in Government Gazette No 26552 dated 16 July

      2004: Establishment of the Tosca/Molopo Water User Association, Magisterial district of

      Vryburg, North West Province, Water Management Area Number 10 in terms of section

      92(1) of the National Water Act, 1998 (Act No 36 of 1998).
                                             PAGE 175

     (f)   Government Notice No 829 published in Government Gazette No 26552 dated 16 July

           2004: Establishment of the Louwna/Coetzersdam Water User Association, Magisterial

           district of Vryburg, North West Province, Water Management Area Number 10 in terms of

           section 92(1) of the National Water Act, 1998 (Act No 36 of 1998).

National Assembly

1.   The Speaker

     (a)   The President of the Republic submitted the following letter dated 2 July 2004 to the

           Speaker of the National Assembly informing Members of the Assembly of the employment

           of the South African National Defence Force:




                 This serves to inform the National Assembly that I authorised the employment of the

                 South African National Defence Force (SANDF) personnel to Sudan as part of the

                 African Union Observer Mission in Sudan.

                 This employment was authorised in accordance with the provisions of section

                 201(2)(c) of the Constitution of the Republic of South Africa, 1996 (Act No 108 of

                 1996), read withsection 93 of the Defence Act, 2002 (Act No 42 of 2002).

                 A total of 10 members are employed for an initial period of 21 months. The

                 members will be rotated after 12 months.
                                       PAGE 176

           The African Union will provide return air tickets and a daily subsistence allowance to

           cover meals, accommodation and expenses of the Military Observers. The total

           estimated cost to be borne by South Africa for the deployment of personnel to the

           mission until 31 March 2006 is R 2 044 602,00 to cover the standard Republic of

           South Africa allowances for foreign deployments and mid-term home visit air travel.

           The Department of Defence will accommodate the expenditure within its current

           allocation for Peace Support Operations.

           I will communicate this report to the Members of the National Council of Provinces

           and the Chairperson of the Joint Standing Committee on Defence, and wish to

           request that you bring the contents hereof to the notice of the National Assembly.



           T M MBEKI

(b)   The President of the Republic submitted the following letter dated 21 July 2004 to the

      Speaker of the National Assembly informing Members of Assembly of the employment of

      the South African National Defence Force:



                            PAGE 177

This serves to inform the National Assembly that I authorised the employment of the

South African National Defence Force (SANDF) personnel to the Republic of

Burundi to provide protection services to Burundian political leaders.

This employment was authorised in accordance with the provisions of section

201(2)(c) of the Constitution of the Republic of South Africa, 1996 (Act No 108 of

1996), read with section 93 of the Defence Act, 2002 (Act No 42 of 2002).

A total of 475 personnel are employed until after Burundi general elections, but not

later than 31 December 2004. The said elections are envisaged to take place at the

end of October 2004.

The total estimated cost to be borne by South Africa for the deployment of

personnel to the mission until 31 December 2004 is R 39 million.

The Department of Defence will accommodate the expenditure within its current

allocation for Peace Support Operations.

I will communicate this report to the Members of the National Council of Provinces

and the Chairperson of the Joint Standing Committee on Defence, and wish to

request that you bring the contents hereof to the notice of the National Assembly.



                                             PAGE 178

                                 MONDAY, 2 AUGUST 2004


National Assembly and National Council of Provinces

1.   The Minister in The Presidency

     Report and Financial Statements of the Media Development and Diversity Agency

     (MDDA) for 2003-2004, including the Report of the Auditor-General on the Financial

     Statements for 2003-2004 [RP 108-2004].

National Assembly

1.   The Speaker

     Petition submitted by the Mophate Restitution Petitioners for the extension of the

     deadline for land restitution claims.

                                 THURSDAY, 5 AUGUST 2004


National Assembly and National Council of Provinces

1.   The Minister of Finance
                                                PAGE 179

     Annual Report of the South African Reserve Bank - Bank Supervision Department for 2003 [RP


                                     TUESDAY, 10 AUGUST 2004


National Assembly and National Council of Provinces

1.   Classification of Bills by Joint Tagging Mechanism:

     (1)   The Joint Tagging Mechanism (JTM) on 10 August 2004 in terms of Joint Rule 160(3),

           classified the following Bill as a section 75 Bill:

           (i)   Energy Regulator Bill [B 9 - 2004] (National Assembly - sec 75)


National Assembly and National Council of Provinces

1.   The Minister for the Public Service and Administration

     Report of the work of the Interim Management Team (IMT) in the Eastern Cape for the period

     November 2002 to March 2004.

2.   The Minister of Education
                                            PAGE 180

     Report and Financial Statements of Umalusi - Council for Quality Assurance in General and

     Further Education and Training for 2003-2004, including the Report of Independent Auditors on

     the Financial Statements for 2003-2004.

                               WEDNESDAY, 11 AUGUST 2004


National Assembly and National Council of Provinces

1.   Classification of Bills by Joint Tagging Mechanism:

     (1)   The Joint Tagging Mechanism (JTM) on 5 August 2004 in terms of Joint Rule

           160(3), classified the following Bill as a section 75 Bill:

           (i)   Immigration Amendment Bill [B 11 - 2004] (National Assembly - sec 75)


National Assembly

1.   Report of the Portfolio Committee on Health on the Choice on Termination of

     Pregnancy Amendment Bill [B 72 - 2003] (National Assembly - sec 76), dated 10

     August 2004:
                                           PAGE 181

          The Portfolio Committee on Health, having considered the subject of the Choice

          on Termination of Pregnancy Amendment Bill [B 72 - 2003] (National Assembly -

          sec 76), referred to it and classified by the Joint Tagging Mechanism as a section

          76 Bill, reports the Bill with amendments [B 72A - 2003].

          The Committee further reports that the ACDP opposed the Bill, proposed that the

          entire Bill be rejected and called for a review of the principal Act.

          The ACDP was concerned about the fact that the Bill states that no major financial

          implications for the State are expected. The ACDP contended that there must be a

          significant rise in costs if the service is in fact in demand, otherwise there would be

          no need for this amendment. The anticipated increased access to abortion would

          result in a significant rise in costs, which would be detrimental to the health

          budget, as valuable resources would be allocated to non-core objectives.

2.   Report of the Portfolio Committee on Health on the Dental Technicians Amendment

     Bill [B 63 - 2003] (National Assembly - sec 76), dated 10 August 2004:

          The Portfolio Committee on Health, having considered the subject of the Dental

          Technicians Amendment Bill [B 63 - 2003] (National Assembly - sec 76), referred

          to it and classified by the Joint Tagging Mechanism as a section 76 Bill, reports

          the Bill without amendment.

                                THURSDAY, 12 AUGUST 2004
                                             PAGE 182


National Assembly and National Council of Provinces

1.   Introduction of Bills

     (1)   The Minister of Health:

           On request of the Minister the following Bill was introduced by the Select Committee on

           Social Services in the National Council of Provinces on 13 August 2004:

           (i)   Sterilisation Amendment Bill [B 12 - 2004] (National Council of Provinces - sec 76)

                 [Draft Bill and prior notice of its introduction published in Government Gazette No

                 26597 of 27 July 2004.]

           Referral to the Joint Tagging Mechanism (JTM) on 13 August 2004 for classification in

           terms of Joint Rule 160.

           In terms of Joint Rule 154 written views on the classification of the Bill may be submitted

           to the Joint Tagging Mechanism (JTM) within three parliamentary working days.


National Assembly and National Council of Provinces

1.   The Minister for Justice and Constitutional Development
                                         PAGE 183

(a)   Protocol on Legal Affairs in the Southern African Development Community (SADC), in

      terms of section 231(2) of the Constitution, 1996 (Act No 108 of 1996).

(b)   Explanatory Memorandum on the Protocol on Legal Affairs in the Southern African

      Development Community (SADC).

(c)   Protocol of the Court of Justice of the African Union, in terms of section 231(2) of the

      Constitution, 1996 (Act No 108 of 1996).

(d)   Explanatory Memorandum on the Protocol of the Court of Justice of the African Union.

(e)   Treaty between the Government of the Republic of South Africa and the Government of

      the Republic of India on Extradition, in terms of section 231(2) of the Constitution, 1996

      (Act No 108 of 1996).

(f)   Treaty between the Government of the Republic of South Africa and the Government of

      the Republic of India on Mutual Legal Assistance in Criminal Matters, in terms of section

      231(2) of the Constitution, 1996 (Act No 108 of 1996).

(g)   Explanatory Memorandum on Treaty between the Government of the Republic of South

      Africa and the Government of the Republic of India on Extradition and Mutual Legal

      Assistance in Criminal Matters.

(h)   Explanatory Memorandum on the Designation of the United Kingdom, in terms of section

      2(2)(a) of the Cross-Border Insolvency Act, 2000 (Act No 42 of 2000).
                                              PAGE 184

     (i)   Report regarding the provisional suspension of Magistrate S E Tebe without remuneration

           pending an investigation into his fitness to hold office, in terms of section 13(4A)(b) of the

           Magistrates Act, 1993 (Act No 90 of 1993).

                                    FRIDAY, 13 AUGUST 2004


National Assembly and National Council of Provinces

1.   Assent by President in respect of Bills

     (1)   National Gambling Bill [B 48D - 2003] - Act No 7 of 2004 (assented to and signed

           by President on 6 August 2004).


National Assembly

1.   The Speaker

     Letter, containing the names of recommended candidates, received from Justice A

     Chaskalson, Chief Justice of South Africa and Chairperson of the panel constituted in

     terms of section 6 of the Electoral Commission Act, 1996 (Act No 51 of 1996) to select

     candidates to be recommended to the committee of the National Assembly charged

     with nominating Electoral Commissioners.
                                           PAGE 185


National Assembly

1.   Report of the Portfolio Committee on Home Affairs on the Immigration Amendment

     Bill [B 11 - 2004] (National Assembly - sec 75), dated 13 August 2004:

           The Portfolio Committee on Home Affairs, having considered the subject of the

           Immigration Amendment Bill [B 11 - 2004] (National Assembly - sec 75), referred

           to it and classified by the Joint Tagging Mechanism as a section 75 Bill, reports

           the Bill with amendments [B 11A - 2004].

                                  MONDAY, 16 AUGUST 2004


National Assembly and National Council of Provinces

1.   Draft bills submitted in terms of Joint Rule 159

     (1)   Foodstuffs, Cosmetics and Disinfectants Amendment Bill, 2004, submitted by the Minister

           of Health on 10 August 2004. Referred to the Portfolio Committee on Health and the

           Select Committee on Social Services.

                                            PAGE 186

National Assembly and National Council of Provinces

1.   The Speaker and the Chairperson

     Report of the Auditor-General on the Financial Statements of the President's Fund for 2002-

     2003 [RP 84-2004].


National Assembly

1.   Report of the Portfolio Committee on Environmental Affairs and Tourism on the National

     Environmental Management: Air Quality Bill [B 62B - 2003] (National Council of Provinces - sec

     76), dated 12 August 2004:

          The Portfolio Committee on Environmental Affairs and Tourism, having considered the

          subject of the National Environmental Management: Air Quality Bill [B 62B - 2003]

          (National Council of Provinces - sec 76), referred to it and classified by the Joint Tagging

          Mechanism as a section 76 Bill, reports the Bill with amendments [B 62C - 2003].


                                  TUESDAY, 17 AUGUST 2004


National Assembly and National Council of Provinces
                                             PAGE 187

1.   Bills passed by Houses - to be submitted to President for assent

     (1)   Bills passed by National Council of Provinces on 17 August 2004:

           (i)    South African Citizenship Amendment Bill [B 55 - 2003] (National Assembly - sec


           (ii)   Films and Publications Amendment Bill [B 61B - 2003] (National Assembly - sec 75)


National Assembly and National Council of Provinces

1.   The Minister of Finance

     Proclamation No 37 published in Government Gazette No 26543 dated 8 July 2004:

     Commencement of the Special Pensions Second Amendment Act, 2003 (Act No 30 of 2003).

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