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James, Hannah (Eden), Ryan (Jeff), Tresa (Acorn), Mr. Jim Miller, Katheleen
Tresa (Acorn): You've run into discrimination? Hannah (Eden): A lot. James: I'm sorry. I had to make a phone call. We what what have you told her so far Hannah (Eden): She's asking why I've run into discrimination James: uh we my girlfriend here we've been dating for about a year or two and um I met her um actually Hannah (Eden): In Miami James: in Miami. Tresa (Acorn): Uh huh. James: She's from Miami originally and we just came out to California. I came out here because I'm going to law school. Tresa (Acorn): Um hum James: um, out here, and I intend to run for office sometime. Tresa (Acorn): Really. James: I would like to. Yes. Um, and uh Tresa (Acorn): Which office? James: Which of Hannah (Eden): Well he's in law school now. James: Well, I'm in law school but I Tresa (Acorn): What is what are your aspirations? James: Oh, I wanna run for congress. Tresa (Acorn): Yeah. Like, okay um do you know anything about ACORN? James: Yes. Tresa (Acorn): Okay. Hannah (Eden): He does. Yeah.
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Tresa (Acorn): Okay James: Yeah. I, I, I do. Tresa (Acorn): Well, we say we're non partisan. You know? James: No, no this is not have to do well this has to do with um my girlfriend's ah Tresa (Acorn): Yes. James: unique line of work. Tresa (Acorn): Oh, okay. What is it? Hannah (Eden): Um Tresa (Acorn): Is it stripping? Hannah (Eden): No, it's not. Tresa (Acorn): Is it is it is it exotic dancing? Hannah (Eden): No James: Ehhh Hannah (Eden): It's it's it's prostitution. Tresa (Acorn): Oh, okay. Hannah (Eden): Yeah. I mean is that Tresa (Acorn): Alright. Hannah (Eden): Is that okay? Tresa (Acorn): It's okay with me. Hannah (Eden): Okay. Tresa (Acorn): I think it should be totally legalized. Hannah (Eden): Okay. Tresa (Acorn): You know, I don't have a thing against it. James: Well Hannah (Eden): Well, thank you. Tresa (Acorn): You're welcome. No. Absolutely not. Um, um and so you're and just and this is just off the bah ya know just because I'm, I'm nosey or curious
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Hannah (Eden): Yeah. Tresa (Acorn): You don't have a problem with that, your boyfriend? Hannah (Eden): He James: I, I don't have a problem with it but I mean I guess the issue is that we I'm from um we came here and we wanna set up sort of like a business um to do this type of thing and Tresa (Acorn): A prostitution business? James: That's right. Tresa (Acorn): And who and so you decided all this so you all decided to call ACORN? Hannah (Eden): No. It's not. No. It didn't quite Tresa (Acorn): My name is Theresa. Hannah (Eden): I'm Eden. Tresa (Acorn): Eden. Nice meeting you. James: I'm James Tresa (Acorn): James James: James: Ryan (Jeff): Jeff. Tresa (Acorn): Jeff, James, and Eden James: Yes. Tresa (Acorn): Okay. Um, um James: [unintelligible] Tresa (Acorn): Yeah. Go ahead. Okay. So, Hannah (Eden): So James: We've been to a couple banks. We've been we've been to a couple banks to try to ob obtain housing ah a place to establishment where where you can do your work and we've faced a lot of discrimination from many different banks. Tresa (Acorn): Oh, well I bet you have. You know, because there are a lot of narrowminded, you know one-sided let's see right-winged bleeding heart liberals out there that that
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you know and their I mean bleeding hearts. Not necessarily liberals. Um, cuz if they were liberal they would be helping you. Hannah (Eden): Yeah. Tresa (Acorn): Right. Hannah (Eden): Well, I like the rose on your pants. Tresa (Acorn): Oh, thank you. I did it like 2 minutes ago. Hannah (Eden): You did that? I thought you bought those. Tresa (Acorn): Thank you. That's cuz they're falling apart, and and it organizes it you know I'm from like the 60's I mean I Hannah (Eden): Yeah. Tresa (Acorn): civil rights and and you know and anti-war and um you know and Hannah (Eden): So you understand where I'm coming from? Sort of Tresa (Acorn): I, yeah. You know, a long time ago, um, myself although I don't think ACORN knows it, not that I care whether they do or don't um um what we they we call um uh escorts. Hannah (Eden): Yeah. Tresa (Acorn): You know? And I ran a service. Hannah (Eden): Really? Tresa (Acorn): Yeah. Hannah (Eden): Well Tresa (Acorn): Heidi Flice (?) is my hero. I mean she Hannah (Eden): Who's she? I, I don't Tresa (Acorn): You know you know okay she's let's see I can't think of anybody um like lately but uh a bunch of years a few years ago um Heidi Flice wa was uh she ran ah a call girl service. Hannah (Eden): Okay. Tresa (Acorn): Um and she got into some you know some really big um prominent people,
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you know. But she did it and made a made a bundle, you know. Hannah (Eden): Yeah. Tresa (Acorn): Of course. And uh so in any way they they finally busted her like after a bunch of bunch of years. And um and they tried to put her in prison. You know I think they actually gave her a little bit of time, but it was nothing. Hannah (Eden): Yeah. Tresa (Acorn): Yeah. And she's out and doin it again. Ryan (Jeff): I've heard of her in a Tresa (Acorn): Yeah. Yeah. She just ah she ran a service, you know. James: Mmm hmm Tresa (Acorn): And that's what I did. James: So, just so that this is wonderful because we've been dealing with these bankers who they just they just it's like the most foreign thing to them. Hannah (Eden): And I don't and we don't even come out with them say it out right. James: They just look at the way she's dressed Tresa (Acorn): Yeah. James: and they just assume it and then we give some devo some more details and they're like we don't we don't want to have anything to do with prostitution or sex rings Tresa (Acorn): Well, that yeah. James: or international sex rings. Tresa (Acorn): And see, you know, now okay and ACORN will tell you the same thing. Hannah (Eden): Yeah. Tresa (Acorn): They will. Um, I don't. You might get an old timer like myself that that you know really knows what's up Hannah (Eden): Right. Tresa (Acorn): And, and could care less. Hannah (Eden): Yeah.
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Tresa (Acorn): You know. Um, but so have you oh alright- did you have the business back in Florida? Hannah (Eden): Okay. I, I was sold. I had a pimp in Florida that I was with. Tresa (Acorn): Right. Right. Hannah (Eden): And, and I was working I thought things were good. Tresa (Acorn): Right. Hannah (Eden): I don't know what happened. I got sent to LA. Tresa (Acorn): Right. Hannah (Eden): And I during this time that I've been here it's been frustrating with me. I haven't adjusted well.
Tresa (Acorn): Yeah. Hannah (Eden): Um, I'm not making as much money Tresa (Acorn): Right. Hannah (Eden): out here, and also Tresa (Acorn): Were you working in San Bernardino? Hannah (Eden): No. Tresa (Acorn): Okay. I mean not that Hannah (Eden): Los Los Angeles. Tresa (Acorn): Oh, really. Hannah (Eden): Yeah, and coming out here I just it's a little bit Tresa (Acorn): Yeah. Hannah (Eden): it's more suburby, Tresa (Acorn): Yeah. Hannah (Eden): which I would prefer. Tresa (Acorn): Yeah. Hannah (Eden): You know just for my personal life, but anyways, um
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Tresa (Acorn): Because yer, you know you you obviously you have you have the looks Hannah (Eden): Right. Tresa (Acorn): And you I don't see why it would be that hard. Although, I, I, I don't know Hannah (Eden): Well, I don't know if I, I, be I'm having problems making money because I've decided to rebel against my pimp. Tresa (Acorn): Yeah. Hannah (Eden): And so he's got something out against me. I met him, like I [unintelligible] him, but he's here now. Tresa (Acorn): He is? Hannah (Eden): Him. James: I'm, I'm him. Tresa (Acorn): Oh, I thought you meant. Hannah (Eden): Yeah him. Tresa (Acorn): Yeah, yeah, okay. Hannah (Eden): So, so he's I've kind of Tresa (Acorn): Yeah. Hannah (Eden): rebelled Tresa (Acorn): Mmm hmm Hannah (Eden): um paid the price physically Tresa (Acorn): Yes. Yes. Hannah (Eden): for that Tresa (Acorn): I can imagine Hannah (Eden): um, you know as far as money goes, also James: She's also there's she's also gotten Hannah (Eden): I mean James: the pimp has really like beat her up. Tresa (Acorn): Oh I know. I mean I, I. Yeah.
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Hannah (Eden): Yeah. He just is scarring. Tresa (Acorn): Yeah. Hannah (Eden): Anyway, so there's been a rebellion process and Tresa (Acorn): Right. Hannah (Eden): And I've really tried to figure out how I can make it on my own and not be subjected to Tresa (Acorn): Right. Hannah (Eden): an evil big man. Tresa (Acorn): So, but this is what you wanna do? This is the career you want. Hannah (Eden): Yeah. It's me I mean Tresa (Acorn): For now? Hannah (Eden): For it's been it's been for me Tresa (Acorn): Yeah. Hannah (Eden): in the past and don't see why it shouldn't be Tresa (Acorn): How long have you been doing it? Can I ask? Hannah (Eden): Since I was 14. Tresa (Acorn): And how old are you? Hannah (Eden): 20 Tresa (Acorn): Okay, so that that's some background Hannah (Eden): Yeah. Tresa (Acorn): Um, so do you know how you want to run it? James: Yes. Tresa (Acorn): If you had a place. Hannah (Eden): Well Tresa (Acorn): If you have uh uh a building. Hannah (Eden): I was thinking I mean. Okay, first I'll say that I maybe wanna do it under the cover of a spa.
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Tresa (Acorn): Yeah. Hannah (Eden): Um, I know there's a lot of home salons, Tresa (Acorn): Uh huh Hannah (Eden): and stuff like that Tresa (Acorn): Yeah. Yeah. Hannah (Eden): um I'm kinda familiar with that in Miami, but I also the guy that I'm supposed to be working for here just got a shipment of 12 El Salvadorian girls. Tresa (Acorn): Oh, really? Hannah (Eden): They're between the ages of 12-years old and 15, and if I can, which I I think I because I do have some sort of relationship with them. Tresa (Acorn): Mmm hmm Hannah (Eden): in the brief time I've come in contact. Would like to take them away from him Tresa (Acorn): Mmm hmm Hannah (Eden): And, and use them for me, for myself and also keep so they don't have to be subjected to a man. Tresa (Acorn): Right. Hannah (Eden): who is abusive who and undergo the kind of I mean they've already been raped here and he's supposed to be protecting them. Tresa (Acorn): Yeah. Hannah (Eden): And they're not getting paid. They're not getting the money they need- the food. So, James: So, basically we want a pah pah a house to put them in and we we've been trying to go through the other authorities but they have been unhelpful with us because of you know. Tresa (Acorn): Well, of course. James: They, they just you know they don't wanna deal with these sex sex girls coming in performing sex they think we don't wanna have anything to do with that.
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Tresa (Acorn): Well, they be a cli they'll be a client. But they don't but they don't wanna set you up. Hannah (Eden): Right. James: Yeah. Isn't that ridiculous? I mean. Tresa (Acorn): Uh, yeah. It is, but I, I you know I, I can see the point, though. James: Okay. Tresa (Acorn): I can see both sides. I mean their, their they have relationships. They're married. They have kids, and besides, you know. They gotta answer to people, too. I mean, can you imagine wives you know with Eden standing around you know. James: Yeah. Tresa (Acorn): That that wouldn't go over well. Hannah (Eden): It doesn't ever go over well. Tresa (Acorn): At all. No. not at all. Hannah (Eden): It doesn't. James: But, one of the things I was one of the things we also wanna do um one of my goals you asked you asked do you know how you wanna do this. I think one of the goals is not only can Eden protect some of these 13, 14, 15 year old girls Tresa (Acorn): Yeah. James: coming over from El Salvador. In addition to protecting them and getting their feet on the ground so that they can you know perform the tricks and you know learn the how LA prostitution scene is I was also wanting to um use some of the this is very lucrative and potentially we can use a lot of the money that we're getting from the the underaged girls from El Salvador and use some of the money for campaign one day. But again, this is something Hannah (Eden): That's how I want to help him Tresa (Acorn): Mmm hmm Hannah (Eden): Cuz he's been kind to me. Tresa (Acorn): Yeah.
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Hannah (Eden): As far as shelter. Tresa (Acorn): Yeah. Hannah (Eden): And if he really does have potential um to run for congress one day then you know Tresa (Acorn): Oh, I believe he does just right off the top. Hannah (Eden): Yeah. Tresa (Acorn): I talk to congressmen, senators, assembly uh people Hannah (Eden): Really? Tresa (Acorn): everyday. Yeah. Um, Hannah (Eden): That's cool. James: Maybe some people you talk to I know. I've I've worked Tresa (Acorn): McCloud James: Really? Tresa (Acorn): Uh, uh Gloria Negretti uh McCloud (sp?) James: Yeah. Tresa (Acorn): is in Ranchacookamonga (sp?) or Ontario James: Oh, absolutely. Yeah, I know. Tresa (Acorn): Yeah, um, she's um um ah a senator. James: Um hmm Tresa (Acorn): Um, let's see. Um, um Torez um is a woman. I, I forgot James: I think I've heard her name. I worked with people in the California subway so they know everyone. Tresa (Acorn): Yeah. Yeah. Um, we we um let's see Wilmar Omena Carter (sp?) is assembly woman. James: Mmm hmm Tresa (Acorn): uh in the 62nd district. James: Umm hmm
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Tresa (Acorn): Um, let's see. Hannah (Eden): You know all these people? James: I know some of them. Tresa (Acorn): Yeah. Uh, James: I, I have friends that went to UC Riverside Tresa (Acorn): Congressman Vonda, Yovonda is right up here in San Bernardino you know Barbara Boxer, James: Mmm hmm Tresa (Acorn): Uh, who is the other woman? Ryan (Jeff): Their offices are close? Tresa (Acorn): Yeah. They are right downtown on D no on E yea. Right across the street from Food For Less actually. Yeah Hannah (Eden): So you talk well that’s cool Tresa (Acorn): Yeah. Yeah. Because we lobby these people Hannah (Eden): Yeah. Tresa (Acorn): For, uh, legislation you know to tr- try right now we’re trying to get them on board for healthcare for you know. And um and we ah warehouse workers and and uh I I don’t—they will probably totally legalize drugs before they will prostitution Hannah (Eden): Yeah. Tresa (Acorn): But James: Yeah. Tresa (Acorn): you know Hannah (Eden): Well, I mean that is the other thing is if he is running for office like I understand that it's I'm a liability to him. Tresa (Acorn): Yeah. Did you ever see the movie, and it's it's about a NY mayor Hannah (Eden): Mmm hmm Tresa (Acorn): Mmm hmm the mayor of NY that fell in love with a hooker and um
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James: There has been a couple of movies like that Tresa (Acorn): And um yeah Ryan (Jeff): pretty woman? Tresa (Acorn): Yeah but but James: Is that pretty woman? Tresa (Acorn): no no its not Pretty Woman. Ryan (Jeff): No. It's like um Tresa (Acorn): but it’s a true story. It’s a true story that the the mayor of NY did fall in love with with a hooker and uh a stripper James: That is sort of like my situation Tresa (Acorn): Yeah and and so she was a liability to him maybe in a lot of ways but he was just good enough that he thought that personality James: But the issue I told you about before I really wanna take a lot of the money Hannah (Eden): Yeah. James: that you know we are getting from the underage girls and and put it towards my future political campaign Tresa (Acorn): Yeah. James: I, I, I really want. That’s the that's the next step I think, but see you see you’re a liability you say but I think that you can really be profitable. Tresa (Acorn): Oh she can be a giant asset. Yes, but James: but with all these girls coming over Tresa (Acorn): In the background Hannah (Eden): But how do I make that in the back like how can our names not be connected like I don’t want him to be you know in front of a huge crowd of people and then all of a sudden they're like well he's dating the prostitute Tresa (Acorn): Right. Right. Hannah (Eden): and then and then
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James: Or even worse they're finding out that 50-75% of the money that I am using for my political advertising comes from underage prostitutes from El Salvador Tresa (Acorn): Well, okay. Now, do you have like a retirement plan a 401 K for them do you have all of this stuff that you can do you have the infrastructure. I'm just theorizing now. Yeah. Hannah (Eden): For the girls? Tresa (Acorn): Yeah. Hannah (Eden): No. Tresa (Acorn): You know because if you are just taking money from underage prostitutes “O my God!” That doesn’t sound good. You know. James: Right that’s exactly the prob. That's the problem. Tresa (Acorn): [unintelligible] the best that's like mmm. Tresa (Acorn): But ya know, um, I'm not sure that they're having they will have a better life, especially I mean I don't think that you see him and and this is ah a politician for you. I recognize the traits he's he's tries to keep on track. Hannah (Eden): Yeah. You know. James: I do. Tresa (Acorn): Yeah, about a specific thing about his mission here and you will defend Eden and her and her James: Well I love her Tresa (Acorn): I know you do. Of course you do, and she knows that. So James: See I told you if we went to ACORN they’ll they got Hannah (Eden): I was terrified of coming into an office Tresa (Acorn): Okay. Now listen I am not your typical ACORN trust me. I, I Hannah (Eden): yea I know Tresa (Acorn): While we are very open minded and um my supervisor would shoot this down like just faster than a bat out of hell, you know. Um, and I'm not sure that she doesn’t
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do this on the side but thats Hannah (Eden): we won’t we won't talk about it about it Tresa (Acorn): Right. Right. I accuse her of, I always tell her where is that pole because I know she does pole dancing. Um, you know. She doesn’t really know that but um Ryan (Jeff): Or maybe she does but she doesn’t know that you know Tresa (Acorn): yea well James: Where does she do this at Tresa (Acorn): Well I don’t know she doesn’t really work and just standing right here Hannah (Eden): She does it? Tresa (Acorn): well she is just very Hannah (Eden): forward? Tresa (Acorn): sexual or very very or she thinks she is, you know. Hannah (Eden): Does she have anything going for her Tresa (Acorn): Um she has long blonde hair, um, she is 28 or 29 or 28 or 30—something like that and um um she is a college graduate. She has an AA in I dunno, something um and so she is kinda see this is a new job for her and uh so organizing is a whole different ball game um but she is very open minded and if there are men around watch them um you win hands down Eden but she will give you a run for your money Hannah (Eden): Yeah. Tresa (Acorn): I wish she was here right now but no I—after I have talked to you I wish she was here cause this is fun Hannah (Eden): Yeah. James: Yeah. Tresa (Acorn): Cause this is fun Hannah (Eden): Aw Tresa (Acorn): and I, I can see that you are pretty serious about it but surely—how old are you?
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James: I'm 25. Tresa (Acorn): Okay. Ryan (Jeff): 26 Tresa (Acorn): Okay, so um alright 20, 26, 25 that that's that’s okay Ryan (Jeff): Umm hmm Tresa (Acorn): You know at 20 um but um James: Jeff is gonna hopefully profit you know from our sex business he is gonna take a stake, I am going to take a stake,um Eden will obviously take a stake Tresa (Acorn): So did you come to California, why did you come? What are you doing in San Bernardino? You have to know that this is like slum James: Well, Jeff don’t you have connections in San Bernardino like I mean Tresa (Acorn): Do you live in San Bernardino Ryan (Jeff): Yeah. No. I don’t live in San Bernardino but um I have met with Vonder before and things like that Tresa (Acorn): Yeah and it’s nothing huh its like please Ryan (Jeff): Yeah. It’s a dumpy [???] Tresa (Acorn): Yeah. Exactly don’t it? Yeah. Hannah (Eden): I mean as far as the discrimination goes and stuff like that Jeff just suggested that it might be a little bit more acceptable if I came in here and and I was like freaked out about going into an office setting with other mortgages in it and we have and and this definitely is a little bit more low key Tresa (Acorn): Yeah. Oh, yeah. Well, I mean this is a very very fragile topic. Hannah (Eden): Both of them were really concerned about making me feel comfortable with with the office and with the person that I'm speaking with. Tresa (Acorn): Yeah. Hannah (Eden): So, hey were kind of right on target with that. Tresa (Acorn): Yeah.
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Hannah (Eden): So thank you for being here. Tresa (Acorn): Oh, you're welcome. You're welcome. I, I mean I don’t know that I can help you any at all other than um if you want me what I would do and this is what I did, um, I would disguise it James: Okay Tresa (Acorn): I definitetly would not um go in with and I liked it that you were very forward about it. That you're very fourth coming with the information but Hannah (Eden): Yeah. Tresa (Acorn): but it would just probably make some people faint. James: Got it Tresa (Acorn): You know. You know. But if you if you and the way you are dressed. Yeah. If you're selling you if you’re actually in business now but you would look absolutely adorable in a three piece suit, you know. James: Mmm hmm 3 Short. You know. James: You're talking about the business with the underaged girls? Tresa (Acorn): No I am talking about the business when you go in and pitch pitch your business, your entrepreneur stuff Hannah (Eden): Yeah. James: Yeah. Tresa (Acorn): You know this is fine with me. Hannah (Eden): Right. Tresa (Acorn): And trust me it would be fine with the bank president assuming he was a guy but you know Tresa (Acorn): But, but you know they Hannah (Eden): Maybe I could get an appointment with a bank president Tresa (Acorn): Oh, yeah. I'm sure that you would like to speak with with uh um the loan no I
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would ask for the president Hannah (Eden): The president. Tresa (Acorn): That is who I would ask for. Yeah. James: Could we get into his private office or something Hannah (Eden): And I could just come alone Tresa (Acorn): I would. Um, I think you would take your your uh partners with you. Hannah (Eden): Okay Tresa (Acorn): Yeah, uh. Ryan (Jeff): And be associated with that Tresa (Acorn): Yeah. James: And not not bring they underage girls with us then? Tresa (Acorn): Oh no no no no no. Now, I know that you know the answers to these questions. Hannah (Eden): We can’t do that, James:. I know. James: Well you see that's that’s important though its important because if you don't disclose how you you said you had some experience maybe like 40 years ago but it still might help us Tresa (Acorn): I have some experience James: I'm, I'm I'm starting Tresa (Acorn): in in in how not to get caught James: Right. Hannah (Eden): Okay, so let's let's Tresa (Acorn): That's all you got James: That's, that's why we're here to hear your advice. How cuz you know I'm 25 years old. I'm just starting out. You're an experienced community organizer. You have some experience from years ago doing whatever you did. Tresa (Acorn): Yes. Yes.
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James: Give us some more advice on you know how not to get caught. Hannah (Eden): What did you think about my idea of disguising it as a spa? Tresa (Acorn): That's exactly what I would do. Um, I would I would disguise it as and they're all over the place. You know. Um, Thai Massage. You know. Swedish Massage- you. I mean there are just a bunch of them. James: Do you think the bunch the other ones around do they um are they disguised themselves? Tresa (Acorn): I don't know. I, I, I honestly don't know. James: Yeah. Tresa (Acorn): But, but if I had to say ya or no, I would say ya. But, that's just because I have a suspicious mind, and I know the human race. James: Yeah. Hannah (Eden): Yeah. Tresa (Acorn): You know, um, I don't think that they're in there you know at late night really really really giving people back rubs. Ryan (Jeff): No. Tresa (Acorn): You know. James: Yeah. Tresa (Acorn): But, you know but but but you have to make it look good. James: Okay. Tresa (Acorn): You know. I mean, sure. James: What else? What else can we do. Tresa (Acorn): That's what I would do. I would just go rent a big house. Ryan (Jeff): [unintelligible] a healing center. Tresa (Acorn): I don't think you need ah. Yeah. Okay. That, yeah. Exactly. You know and so you could you could invest in ah a um a line of vitamins or or James: Okay.
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Tresa (Acorn): herbal you know I dunno know James: Buy some vitamins and then front the vitamins in the window sill. Tresa (Acorn): Yeah. James: So when people walk by they don't get suspicious. Tresa (Acorn): Right. Right. James: Okay. Tresa (Acorn): You know, um James: What about the money situation like the eh if I wanna use some of this money for my political campaign. How can, how can I start thinking about this long term so that I don't get caught with the Feds or something like that? Tresa (Acorn): Okay. I think- in my business it it was mostly cash. James: Okay. Tresa (Acorn): Alright. It's a cash business Hannah (Eden): That's what we're doing Tresa (Acorn): So you only claim enough to you you ccan't Ryan (Jeff): You should take credit cards for the vitamins and stuff Tresa (Acorn): I-I would I would definitely be set up to take credit cards because you know its a little cheapy think that you are not going to do all of your business on but if someone does come in for a legitimate massage you know so you might want somebody that actually knows how to do that um but I in the word you know Eden I mean word of mouth Hannah (Eden): Yea Ryan (Jeff): You know where all the strip clubs are or anything like that Tresa (Acorn): yea there's one over on Hospitality um I think it is called Flesh Ryan (Jeff): Okay Tresa (Acorn): Flesh girls or something like that Hannah (Eden): I wanted to tell uou a story about some girls I knew in Miami they wanted to start a business in Virgina. And they went under as a massage
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Tresa (Acorn): Yea Hannah (Eden): Well they did't disguise it very well at all Tresa (Acorn): Yea umhm Hannah (Eden): And all of the male clients were coming in and it raised suspicion and wives were calling the house Tresa (Acorn): mm o really Hannah (Eden): and and and they were two asian girls and they were investigated, they were arrested and charges pressed against them and they got released and they were allowed to go back to their business and then they disguised it and started taking other clients Tresa (Acorn): mhm Hannah (Eden): so they had half massage half brothel kind of stuff Tresa (Acorn): right Hannah (Eden): but they'er scared now and they cant have the same amount of business they could have befor the investigation Tresa (Acorn): yea so you thought of ya Hannah (Eden): So I understand the importance of Tresa (Acorn): yea and you guys are very open minded but you have to know that that well number one that there are not many people my age that actually would accept this—just ya know not very many grandmothers run around saying yea I think its really cool ya know but lets face it Hannah (Eden): Lets call it hooking Tresa (Acorn): okay but—but yHannah (Eden): no no no thats fine its James: But when you were younger you were a hooker or you were an exotic dancer what were—did you do prostitution Tresa (Acorn): I ran I was a paid escourt and we did trips to the bahamas for big business
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men on Yatchs James: Did you do sexual things for these men Tresa (Acorn): It was absolutely individual preference you didnt have to and I normally did the bookings and most of these guys were older men who just wanted a pretty girl on their arm James: were they married Tresa (Acorn): Oh yea James: but uh you dont have to answer this but just out of our experience did you I mean Tresa (Acorn): I had sex one time James: oh ok Tresa (Acorn): one time because I wanted to. most of the time, and now there were some times that absolutely that and there were girls that absolutely will but they were very classy they were very tasteful they you know you weren't going to pick them up on this street James: yea Tresa (Acorn): They were high class call girls—we were no um and we and this particular business group they were just very nice guys and we went to the Bahamas we gambled we were—there were five couples---and we were on a large a little large company yacht Hannah (Eden): wow Tresa (Acorn): It was awesome I can see you doing that. And we made Hannah (Eden): I love the Bahamas when I was in Miami I went there Tresa (Acorn): do you? Yea yea well and and we at that time I made 15 grand and they made ten and thats a lot of money for a week, well for six days, Hannah (Eden): no kidding Tresa (Acorn): and that was paid up front in cash James: did you declare it all? Tresa (Acorn): I didn't declare a dime no—It's cash James: wow
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Hannah (Eden): so you don't have to Tresa (Acorn): no James: so what are we supposed to declare it all anyway—underage trafficing girls from el salvador Tresa (Acorn): you would declare it as okay the guy comes in and pays for Louise or whatever and along with that he buys a bottle of I dont know uh St. Ellens Wart and that's a historic thats like an upper but its an herbal thing and believe me they work James: yea Tresa (Acorn): they really do they are great and so 20 bucks for that or 10 or whatever it is or you bill it as a massage I mean that is very legitimate I mean you just don't say one blow job for 50 dollars or whatever you know whatever James: yea Tresa (Acorn): so James: there is a problem with the girls they are like 13-15 years old they might run around and tell people you know Tresa (Acorn): mm Hannah (Eden): which is why I feel like it's better for the to be under me who's been there done that than a pimp and also the thing is they are getting raped and they are not getting their money their money is being taken from them Tresa (Acorn): mm yea Hannah (Eden): And I've been there Tresa (Acorn): yea Hannah (Eden): so I feel as a girl who can kinda mentor you and guide you on how to make money the right way as far as selling their bodies tehn Tresa (Acorn): if you if you actually become their mentor if you actually become this friend/mother/sister/ Hannah (Eden):boss
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Tresa (Acorn): exactly. To them and you actually win them over then they will die before they will rat you out Hannah (Eden): Well I mean I am already winning them over I am getting them food ya know Tresa (Acorn): yea yea Hannah (Eden): giving them side things. I have already kind of told them don't worry I'll get you that Tresa (Acorn): I mean you know your pimp what does he do—he he throws he beats the hell out of you and then comes in and puts his arms around you Hannah (Eden): he buys me a bottle of perfume for me once a year and tells me he loves me and I know thats not true Tresa (Acorn): yea yea right exactly Hannah (Eden): I have kind of learned that Tresa (Acorn):and you start looking at him as your savior Hannah (Eden): well I did and then I thought it over and was like well thats not true especially when the abuse starts Tresa (Acorn): right right Hannah (Eden): as soon I started to get a mind of my own thats when Tresa (Acorn): right well that is how men most men um most men that have businesses as pimps thats the only because of where they come from thats all they know is brutality and they know that they can get their way if they slap the hell out of somebody especially women Hannah (Eden): right well and the girls they I have talked to some of them and they are okay with guys hitting them as long as they get more money for it and if they are fine with that there is nothing I can do if they get more money for a guy hitting them and if they are with me I can tell them its wrong and they can't do that and they need to get more creative, and if a guy does hit them when they are in the room alone performing all of their sex acts and they are getting money for it how am is supposed to complain because I am getting a percentage
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of that? Tresa (Acorn): Right but the thing is that I think that you can kind of now with me I ran a more and believe me nothing I had women that would take care of every little wish, every fantasy but the way I billed my business the way I talked about it and the way I really felt about it was pretty up and up Hannah (Eden): high class Tresa (Acorn): yeah ya know that this is not S and M absolutely and I don't have anything against hip boots and nylons whips but I dont none none of my girls ever ever Hannah (Eden): got abused? Tresa (Acorn): no not ever Hannah (Eden): well I mean maybe with the spa thing Tresa (Acorn): yea Hannah (Eden): it will cut that down Tresa (Acorn): but then again it is how you want this to be run Hannah (Eden): yea Tresa (Acorn): don't forget that you can mold this to into anyhting you want James: okay Tresa (Acorn): you can mold this into the level of um decency or indecency Hannah (Eden): well men always seem to react when their egos are boosted and Tresa (Acorn): yea Hannah (Eden): and they seem to get feel really powerful when they hit a girl Tresa (Acorn): right Hannah (Eden): and if they will give more money, I don't I know it's harsh but Tresa (Acorn): right (30:00)
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year old girls. Tresa (Acorn): Really? James: Do we? Do we, um? Tresa (Acorn): I dunno. That's a call you will have to make. Hannah (Eden): Well, it's the and I feel like Tresa (Acorn): Uh, me I in my life have been abused also. Uh, I mean, just with an exhusband. You know. That just beat the hell out of me. You know a few times and then, you know I killed him, but it James: Oh Tresa (Acorn): I don't think it that's a nice thing. I don't think. James: You killed him emotionally? Tresa (Acorn): No, I shot him. I shot. Hannah (Eden): in self-defense? Tresa (Acorn): Yeah. Ryan (Jeff): He beat you for awhile, though. Tresa (Acorn): Mmm hmm. Yeah. Ryan (Jeff): How old were you then? Tresa (Acorn): It was only, actually about well I was I was 35. Hannah (Eden): Was he abusing you when you shot him or did you Tresa (Acorn): No. Not right at that instant. James: Yeah, but did Tresa (Acorn): Well, actually he was going to and I knew that second that I opened my mouth, you know, when I said fuck you Hannah (Eden): Yeah. Tresa (Acorn): and I walked and and I knew cuz I Hannah (Eden): You knew it was coming. Tresa (Acorn): I knew it was coming.
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Hannah (Eden): Oh my God. You're so smart. Tresa (Acorn): Yeah, but you know sometimes you just can't you know Hannah (Eden): I wish I could do that to the pimps. Tresa (Acorn): Yeah, I know it. I know it. And, um, he was 6'2” and and weighed 300lbs. Ryan (Jeff): 300? He was kinda fat. Tresa (Acorn): Mmmm. He wasn't real fat, but he was big, really big. Hannah (Eden): Husky guy. Tresa (Acorn): Yeah. And um um and he came at me and I let him throw me around a little bit you know and then I just picked up the gun and said fuck you and I shot him and he died right there and (sigh) but before that I had done some laid some ground work you know I went to a domestic violence shelter. Hannah (Eden): Yeah. Tresa (Acorn): and I pleaded my case with them and um so everybody in town was knowing that this was happening. Hannah (Eden): Yeah. Tresa (Acorn): You know because I've seen too many movies Hannah (Eden): Right. Tresa (Acorn): about the Burning Dead. I love Farrah Phaucet in that movie. Hannah (Eden): Yeah. Tresa (Acorn): You know that guy got his, oh my God. Hannah (Eden): Well, you had to go through a lot more stuff than he did. Tresa (Acorn): Oh, yeah. Yeah. Right. So, so I, I never I don't agree with corporal punishment for children when you're raising em. I never spanked my kids for anything and they were perfect. They were great kids. You know. If you can't talk to em by the time they're four, than you've lost it. You know, but um I just don't believe in hitting. But I understand and believe me I do know cuz I used to employ girls that that would do this because they didn't care. Maybe they liked [garbled]
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Hannah (Eden): And I think the girls also I mean they went from I don't know all of their home lives, but I'm assuming if they're in prostitution at this young of age like I was I mean their fathers abuse them, maybe their fathers weren't around, and then they go to a pimp who is abusive Tresa (Acorn): Mmm hmm Hannah (Eden): And then, they think if I get hit by a client, I'll get more money. Tresa (Acorn): Mmm hmm Hannah (Eden): So how their James: There is likely gonna be I mean un un unfortunately you know with with Valenski I'm a big admirer of Valenski and he wrote in one of his books that with you know great opportunities come some type some destruction. I mean, we're bringing these girls over but there might there might be some violence against these young girls. That's just something to consider. We have to think about this. Tresa (Acorn): Yeah. There's probably, whether you allow it or not it's prob it's I'm sure James: It's gun it's probably gonna happen with these 13-14 year old girls. Tresa (Acorn): Yeah. James: Guys just get big and powerful, but um you know I was thinking that you know I'm I'm trying to get big into the democratic party and I'm I'm again I wanna run for congress one day but my concern aside from the the brothel itself Tresa (Acorn): Yeah James: and and disguising it is the money issue. Tresa (Acorn): Yeah. James: If I'm gonna be taking a 30 or 40% cut of the money we get from the young girls, I do not want to fuck these people that I know to find out about this. Tresa (Acorn): (sigh) It's cash #1. It never passes through the girls' hands. James: Yeah. Tresa (Acorn): Their from Hon where?
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Hannah (Eden): El Salvador James: El Salvador Tresa (Acorn): El Salvador um and I (sigh). Now, I I I wouldn't wanna I wouldn't wanna to talk to you and then and then find out that you're just real assholes and and you're gonna hurt these girls yourselves. You know. I mean. I would hate that. I would really hate it. James: Well, we're we're Hannah (Eden): Well, they have no part in it. It's me. And Tresa (Acorn): So James: We're bringing these girls from overseas. Hannah (Eden): Well, they're here. James: But, we are gonna take a part of the profit and I and I intend to use the profit Tresa (Acorn): Right. James: From the tricks the girls perform Tresa (Acorn): Right. James: To fund my political campaign Tresa (Acorn): Right. James: and the advertising. Tresa (Acorn): Oh, but you see do you think every congressman every legislator. Do you think that even Obama our new president James: Right. Tresa (Acorn): Or any of them ever ever actually put down every single uh resource uh where they got their money? Kennady- they got their money from bootlegging and prostitution. They got their money James: What about Tresa (Acorn): from running illegal whisky. James: What about current you know I'm new to politics so maybe I'm a little naïve but is this something that goes on like I, I mean
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Tresa (Acorn): I would think it does, but I can't prove it. James: But Tresa (Acorn): And I could get fired for even just talking about it. James: But I'm not gonna just do you know 2%, 3%, 5%. This is gonna be the majority of my income that's gonna fund my campaign. Tresa (Acorn): Okay. James: I've got a lot of issues that I wanna I wanna you know Tresa (Acorn): Mmm hmm James: I'm concerned about. A lot of things in California I wanna get done. You know I'm very pro-choice amongst other things. Tresa (Acorn): Yeah. I think so. James: And I and I wanna this money will be used for good stuff. Tresa (Acorn): Yeah. James: But, it's not gonna be 2%. It's gonna be like 50% of all my campaign contributions are gonna come from these sex tricks. Tresa (Acorn): So what happens with the girls? Hannah (Eden): This is I mean part of getting them away from the pimp, me making money Tresa (Acorn): Mmm hmm Hannah (Eden): Keeping some you know. I also want them to become independent, and not have to go through being sold like and I want them to have Tresa (Acorn): Yeah. Hannah (Eden): a place they can live um possibly educate them as best we can. I dunno. And become independent woman and who work for themselves and can think for themselves and maybe open up their own stores. Tresa (Acorn): But that's a real real Hannah (Eden): That's a commitment. Tresa (Acorn): conflict.
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Hannah (Eden): and that's in Tresa (Acorn): You can't have independent educated people women or men Hannah (Eden): Well, they can read a book. I can make them Tresa (Acorn): And hookers. They are going to full on work for you every day Hannah (Eden): Well, Tresa (Acorn): every second of the day. James: Right. Hannah (Eden): I was thinking that like I could make them read one book a week and if they do good reading the book then they get a more high paying client. Tresa (Acorn): Hmm. The think is Ryan (Jeff): But, say like if she's their big sister figure Tresa (Acorn): Yeah. How, how educated do you want them? I mean Hannah (Eden): Not that educated. Tresa (Acorn): You know Hannah (Eden): But, educated enough Tresa (Acorn): Yeah. Yeah. Hannah (Eden): where they can think for themselves. Tresa (Acorn): Right. Hannah (Eden): Be smart. Be alert. Tresa (Acorn): And the thing is that you have a good enough take on it from what I can see that that um that they're not wanted to get they won't be wanting to get out of the business and they don't have to know the money that's coming in, you know. Hannah (Eden): Yeah. Tresa (Acorn): I mean, they don't they might ask their the trick how much did you pay for me, but you'll just have to there'll be there'll be a list of by-laws and rules Hannah (Eden): Yeah. Tresa (Acorn): that that this is this is how you get in in any employment you have a list of
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rules that and I'm breaking everyone of them right now by the way. But, but you have a list of of guidelines and James: Which rules are you, which rules are you breaking, though? I mean Hannah (Eden): You're just counseling us. Tresa (Acorn): (tripping over her words) There you go. I am not qualified to counsel. Hannah (Eden): Oh. Ryan (Jeff): Yeah, but how's that breaking a rule. Hannah (Eden): Um, well I when I well actually all politicians are dirty. Ryan (Jeff): Yeah. James: Hey! Tresa (Acorn): Eventually. I know a lot of them when they go in, they're not but you know they all end up um you can't fight the system. You know, you can't. Those are cute shoes. Hannah (Eden): Thanks. Tresa (Acorn): Um. (sigh) Oh. James: You can take the call. Tresa (Acorn): No, I uh actually I don't wanna answer in case it's my boss. James: Oh. Uh, oh. Tresa (Acorn): So, um. Anyway, um. Hannah (Eden): So, what do you think? What do you recommend for me? With the girls? James: With the money? And and Hannah (Eden): Crazy I mean I, I, 12-15 years old. Tresa (Acorn): Well, you know already that that if you know you're breaking a law the law James: Right. Tresa (Acorn): If you have these girls in your care and they're minors. James: We know that. We know that. Tresa (Acorn): Yeah. So, James: They're also breaking the law because it's statutory rape.
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Tresa (Acorn): Right. James: Because they're under sixteen. Tresa (Acorn): Yeah. James: And there are guys 40 years old coming in. Tresa (Acorn): Oh. That's that's it, yeah, that's like breaking everything, you know. James: That's the problem. Tresa (Acorn): Well, yeah. James: That's the problem. Tresa (Acorn): Well, you you know I mean I know that you you could not have gotten to 20 and not done some some slippin and slidin in your life. James: Right. Tresa (Acorn): You know. I mean is it if I didn't know better and I don't but I would think this is a total set up. James: No. This is Tresa (Acorn): You know. James: not a set up. These bruises are real. Tresa (Acorn): Yeah. James: and, and what she's talking about Tresa (Acorn): Yeah. James: is is like Tresa (Acorn): Yeah. James: is serious stuff and we want to Tresa (Acorn): Oh, I know it is hunny. I truly, I do understand. I mean, I do. Assuming that this is all on the up and up and Hannah (Eden): Do you want me to tell your boss? Tresa (Acorn): Oh, no. No. No. Oh, I'll def I'll tell her something. You I you I can't you can't leave here and and have as a matter of fact can I take a picture?
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Hannah (Eden): Of me? Tresa (Acorn): Yes. I should do that. Hannah (Eden): If you want. James: I don't I, I, if we I'm running Tresa (Acorn): Alright. James: I wanna run for campaign one of these days Hannah (Eden): Yeah. James: so I can't let this get out. Tresa (Acorn): Okay. Yeah. You're you're right. You're right. James: One day I'm running for campaign Tresa (Acorn): That's okay. James: and some picture shows up Tresa (Acorn): No. No. No James: And with some annotation and Tresa (Acorn): What I would do is I would show it to her to cuz Hannah (Eden): to make her jealous? Tresa (Acorn): Yeah. Well, just to just to blow uh her mind, you know, because she's jus just too much sometimes, but um Hannah (Eden): Well, I mean could she help us as far as paperwork goes? Tresa (Acorn): No. Hannah (Eden): No. Tresa (Acorn): Well, I don't I sincerely doubt it..Um, um pape oh no you mean as far as getting a place er is that what you're thinking? I don't know why you just don't go out and rent a house. You know, I know maybe you don't have a lot of money right now. James: Landlords. Tresa (Acorn): You don't have to tell them. James: They'll find out when they see a busload of children coming into the house.
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Tresa (Acorn): Okay. Um, let's see. You could call it a group home. Hannah (Eden): A group home. James: A group Hannah (Eden): But I'm not am I (sigh) James: (sigh) Tresa (Acorn): You know what I'm talking about, right? A group home is like ah and they're all and believe me San Bernardino is full of them. The street D street is is almost every single one. This was gonna be one. Hmm Hannah (Eden): Whats a group home? Tresa (Acorn): its um like when kids people not just kids but ex-cons Ryan (Jeff): There was one of those in a neighborhood I used to live in its like a halfway house for Tresa (Acorn): yea Ryan (Jeff): yea Tresa (Acorn): and you'll see like all this but they don't advertise it like if you want to go down to the police department and look it up and go through all that you can find out but youll see somebody moving in and there will be like I dunno 4 or 5 kids that belong to this person but they all look totally different you know like one will be black one might be asian the other one will be hispanic and white but they still are theyre family and unless the nieghbors ask well did you guys all come from this family um so and these group homes thats what they are called. So these boys or girls and girls get to stay there they might be fellons they might be sex abusers and they might be and some of them are minors a lot of them are minors Hannah (Eden): I mean that makes sense if it is going to be just me and the girls living there forever but we are going to have adult men driving up parking walking in taking cabs Tresa (Acorn): yea yea then you would probably want to get in like a busier area you know where traffic is not going to be a problem
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Hannah (Eden): and like we do the James: we might have to move down town Hannah (Eden): right Ryan (Jeff): what types of loan services do you guys how do you guys help people find housing Tresa (Acorn): Actually ACORN housing is called it is um they have a first time home buyers program and I know that they can actually they have helped people get first time home loans. You know that there is a forclosure crisis in America right now Ryan (Jeff): yea Tresa (Acorn): I mean, It is unreal um you know this guy across the street—he is an old guy, way older than me even, he oh he might like this he just bought that house. He is like 73 but he but he is sharp he has got it going—you wanna meet him? James: yes Hannah (Eden): what is—who is he—what? Tresa (Acorn): I only just met him like three days, four days last week sometime Ryan (Jeff): so is—he just moved in like last Tresa (Acorn): yea he has been there for a little while and as I was talking to the nighbor over here the other day Hannah (Eden): [----?] Tresa (Acorn): no I actually went over and introduced myself to him because I have been wanting to know who that is over there because you know I work here and I want to know who the nieghbors are—and uh he is very very sharp you know he really and he appreciates women he appreciates um pretty James: Beautiful women Tresa (Acorn): Very much James: I don't know how I feel about a 73 year old man sleeping with my girlfriend Tresa (Acorn): Oh no no I know that
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James: I understand 40 year old men sleeping with my girlfriend Tresa (Acorn): although I am sure he would probably be thinking of it—huh Hannah (Eden): I dont wanna I mean I'll meet him Tresa (Acorn): Oh yea yea but he might have some ideas James: okay Tresa (Acorn): and he might even have James: could you introduce us to him Tresa (Acorn): yea I will I will let me see if he is home James: okay Tresa (Acorn): um um okay lets walk out let me get my key James: okay...um where does he live Hannah (Eden): right across the street Tresa (Acorn): I don't think that ACORN housing unless you just go in and say I would like to buy a house and we need some help I am not sure that telling them this story would be the best thing Ryan (Jeff): right cause you guys are Tresa (Acorn): but the thing is we don't want to waste their time because we go to these conferences and then they find out and they go we don't want to touch you with a ten foot stick you know Hannah (Eden): and and well I mean like when we go to other banking places and they are like what do you do and I say oh I have my own business and they are like what? James: what type of business is it Hannah (Eden): and they keep pushing and pushing and I am just fed up with all of the BS so Tresa (Acorn): well they do wanna know who you work for James: that's right thats the problem say I work for a pimp Hannah (Eden): I can't say that to them
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James: yea Hannah (Eden): but I end up but it ends up coming out Tresa (Acorn): call your business something else I mean you guys are creative enough to do that...he lives in a house right there. James: which one? Tresa (Acorn): His little red car is gone but his gate is open so he will be right back um Ryan (Jeff): let me go [inaudible]... James: uh Ryan (Jeff): parked in the garage? Tresa (Acorn): his name is Jim Ryan (Jeff): Jim? Tresa (Acorn): um yea jim James: you alright? Yea be careful with those shoes Tresa (Acorn): theres a car back there I dont know about that one cause I know he has the red one Ryan (Jeff): he doesn't have a dog does he? Tresa (Acorn): no. Jim. Jim! James: is that his car? Tresa (Acorn): um I don't—I don't know about the blue one I know he has a little red one that looks just like that that's usually parked right there James: oh Tresa (Acorn): but he'll be right back otherwise he wouldnt have left his gate wide open James: we--we can just like wait for him oh Tresa (Acorn): oh hi Kathleen: I'm Jim's friend Kathleen Tresa (Acorn): oh hi Kathy—Kathle--I can see here, Kathy is Jim around Kathleen: No he has gone to the locksmith and I don't know when he is coming back I have
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been here at least an hour Tresa (Acorn): oh you have? Kathleen: yea Tresa (Acorn): okay well um Kathleen: are you the lady from across the street Tresa (Acorn): yes I am Kathleen: he told me about you Tresa (Acorn): did he? Can I see what you look like Kathleen: Not much Tresa (Acorn): I cannot see you at all. oh okay Kathleen: Uhh Not much Tresa (Acorn): thats okay thats okay. Hi. I'm Tresa Kathleen: Hi Theresa Tresa (Acorn): Kathleen? Kathleen: yea yea Tresa (Acorn): okay um I have some uh young people that I wanted Jime to meet but Kathleen: yea that's not gonna work right now. Is anybody strong here with a screw driver that can get a couple screws James: I'm pretty good Kathleen: Really strong James: I—well this guy is obviously stronger than me but you know alright but Kathleen: well I'll take who ever's got muscle cause there's James: whatever you need Kathleen: ah we gotta keep these stupid cats in here, pardon my adjective Tresa (Acorn): no anyway Kathleen: yea somebody who's good Tresa (Acorn): This is Eden and go ahead you guys
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Kathleen: and you you are you strong James: I got it. James: Don't have um probably a too much time left on the camera, but it's still rolling so we got everything. Hannah (Eden): k James: This is crazy shit. Hannah (Eden): [unintelligible] James: I know. James: Maybe we can talk to the both of them. Hannah (Eden): Huh? James: I wonder if we're gonna meet this meet this man. I wonder who that woman is. Hannah (Eden): I wonder if he's like a CIA guy who's gonna call us out in like a heartbeat. Doesn't matter though. We've already got everything we need. James: He's probably too old and he'd probably just get a kick out of it if that was the case. He'd probably just go along for the ride. Ryan (Jeff): Poor Ryan inside that house. Hannah (Eden): I know. James: I think the uh the lady is um on some type of drug. Hannah (Eden): Me too. James: Like Cocaine. Hannah (Eden): I was totally thinking that. James: Speed. Speed. Hannah (Eden): I was totally thinking [unintelligible] James: My um my um tie is um out of camera it's battery. There is no camera left so if if for example if we if he invites us into her house or something. Ryan (Jeff): I couldn't get the screw out. James: Really? Um if he invites us into her house or something. Hannah (Eden): Are we gonna say no? James: No. No. No. No. Just basically is I need to make a call to my um my political
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campaign person. I'll be right back. We'll go to the car. Exchange the files. Hannah (Eden): Just say your Mom call you. James: I'll just have to go to the car. Fake a phone call and then um I'll come back in if he invites us in but right now I'm not getting video although I'm getting audio. Whatever happens at this point on. Hannah (Eden): Okay. Um I have a camera on my phone so I'll just [unintelligible] James: Well. Well. Maybe. Maybe. I don't know what's going to happen, but if he invites us in the house to talk to us about it or something then, you guys go. I'll go back to the car. I have to make a phone call, and then I exchange the files. Cuz I'm out of space on the on the um on the blue chip. So, that's what will happen. Or we come back at a later time later tonight or something you know we have to go eat dinner and we come back [garbled] or something like that that's what I would do. I would say we have to go eat dinner. Hannah (Eden): You mean to tell me that I would tell him that I want [unintelligible] [unintelligible] James: What? [garbled] Hannah (Eden): It's in motion. It's like an art thing. James: I get it. I get it. [unintelligible] Ryan (Jeff): Should I get on it and meet you back here or something? [unintelligible] Tresa (Acorn): Okay. This is ah Mr. Jim Miller. Mr. Jim Miller: Hi James: Oh. Hello. Tresa (Acorn): Okay. And you guys introduce yourselves. James: Hello. I'm James. Mr. Jim Miller: Hi, James. Ryan (Jeff): Jeff. Tresa (Acorn): James and Jeff. Mr. Jim Miller: Jeff.
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Hannah (Eden): Eden. Hannah (Eden): Eden. Mr. Jim Miller: Eden. You're the PR person? James: Hmmm (laughs) Hannah (Eden): I guess you could say that (laughs) James: Yeah Pub Hannah (Eden): Public relations Mr. Jim Miller: You lack nothing. (all laugh) I mean, if you can speak a little English thats an advantage. Hannah (Eden): Yeah. (laughs) In LA yeah I uh I guess so. Mr. Jim Miller: Why San Bernardino? James: Huh well um Jeff here Hannah (Eden): Jeff recommended James: Recommended Ryan (Jeff): It comes down to the area Mr. Jim Miller: I know Ryan (Jeff): It's an area that I think we can get away with it the longest period of time without having to move or change places or have any kind of problems. I mean LA there's I think there's investigations in networks that we don't want to be a part of. Independent as possible. Mr. Jim Miller: So you want to franchise this? Hannah (Eden): Well James: Not really. Hannah (Eden): We don't want anybody else to know about it but us. Ryan (Jeff): That's what we're trying to Hannah (Eden): So, but. James: We don't want to franchise it. No. We have we want. Hannah (Eden): I was part of a franchise. James: We have a small. We're. We're trying. We're. The three of us are trying to go into
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business together. So we're not trying to make this like a nationwide thing. We're just trying to make it like a one local local sort of set up. Okay? She came from a very abusive abusive past. Alright, and she's trying to do do something to get away from that. So she's coming here and she's from Miami. I'm from I'm from New York and and Jeff here is my good contact out in California, so she's got some clients in LA, so um. [unintelligible] Mr. Jim Miller: What I know about San Bernardo is it's it's a dying city. James: Okay Mr. Jim Miller: It's been trying to die since uh the Air Force base closed. James: Okay Mr. Jim Miller: Uh. One major shopping center is almost closed. They've got four little Jewelry shops and uh a Chinese restaurant, so there's no place for people to gather there. There's another shopping center further down that had three anchors Sears, Macy's, and Godshots. Godshots just closed a few weeks ago. Took them three months to get rid of their inventory, even at 80 percent off. James: Oh. Mr. Jim Miller: K. Uh, most of the businesses are out of business if you drive up and down Arrowhead here, you'll see a lot of small places closed. Uh, the economy here is dying. It's Ryan (Jeff): [unintelligible] Mr. Jim Miller: Yeah. San Bernardino county is the highest welfare county in the state. So, those who have money, spend it. Mr. Kathleen: Well, they also sell their food stamps to buy a hooker. I mean, I'm serious. No offense. Hannah (Eden): Yeah. I mean I. Ryan (Jeff): My uncle used to go to the backs of liquor stores and get lottery tickets. Yeah that they didn't tear up and turn them back in. Mr. Kathleen: Yeah. Hannah (Eden): I'm too [unintelligible] Mr. Jim Miller: This. This ull take Ryan (Jeff): I tried to get your screw for you, but I couldn't do it. These things are in there man. Tresa (Acorn): I know what we need to do. It's not that complicated. If I can. Mr. Jim Miller: This is the answer.
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Tresa (Acorn): Oh, yeah. That too. (laughs) Oh you've got the answer? Mr. Jim Miller: Yeah. Tresa (Acorn): Do you wanna talk about...? Mr. Jim Miller: Oh. I just wanna give you some ideas. There's nothing that I that I could do or become involved in James: Could you provide the house. Er could you. She said something about. Tresa (Acorn): Well, I thought he might know of something. James: Oh. Okay. Okay Okay. Tresa (Acorn): But and this is too small. James: Okay. Mr. Jim Miller: Yeah. There are many many rentals James: Okay. Mr. Jim Miller: around. James: Okay. Mr. Jim Miller: And you'd be better off to to do that. One thing you want to consider is that from about one block east of here. That's east. Over about a mile is what the Police Department call Project Phoenix. James: Okay. Mr. Jim Miller: The goal and dedication and commitment is to take every drug peddler and every prostitute out. James: Okay. Tresa (Acorn): Yeah. But how how Project Phoenix went to Hell. Mr. Jim Miller: It did. Yeah. Tresa (Acorn): It it's non existent anymore. Um, they only use it now to justify the funds that that that the Police were given. Ryan (Jeff): Sss You guys should get involved with that. Tresa (Acorn): Yes. Now. Ryan (Jeff): It seems like a waste. If they're not. You know. Tresa (Acorn): Yeah. Um, it was given the Project Phoenix the money was given to the cops.
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Ryan (Jeff): Yeah. Tresa (Acorn): It actually didn't help a bunch of kids the way it was supposed to. Hannah (Eden): The Police stole the money? Tresa (Acorn): Um, no. They didn't steal it. They were it was given to them. Uh, and so Morez, Mayor Morez, really that was his baby, right? Mr. Jim Miller: Alright. Tresa (Acorn): Yeah. Mr. Jim Miller: K. So the marketing plan is both the problem and the solution. Hannah (Eden): Okay. Mr. Jim Miller: If you were in a if you were in a higher end, ended community, you'd be looking for larger hotels. James: Mmm Hmm Mr. Jim Miller: Uh, business motels. James: Mmm Hmm Mr. Jim Miller: And and the like. The business motels are all gathered around uh second street third street and are basically for people coming in to to do business with the state offices. Because there's nothing else here. Uh the mote... that the hotels are all are all in a row so to speak down off of the ten. You just go down to down to 215. Take a right on the ten. Take the first exit. And up and down. Mr. Kathleen: That hospitality? Mr. Jim Miller: Yeah. Mr. Kathleen: Yeah. Mr. Jim Miller: Yeah. Uh, there isn't enough volume in that kind of a community that you could afford. Ya know? You're not you're not looking at a a Mark Hopkins with 300 a day. James: Right. Mr. Jim Miller: You're not looking at a tenth of that. So you would be competing with all of the black ladies who just briefly walk up and down the streets. Tresa (Acorn): Mmm Hmm Mr. Jim Miller: And they're in the 20-40 dollar bracket. James: Yeah, she charges a hundred.
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Mr. Jim Miller: There you go. So you get the right thing in the wrong place. Now, people here started to flee, but it didn't work out. They fled to Highland, which is a nice looking town. Tresa (Acorn): Mmm Hmm Mr. Jim Miller: But there's no town to it. Ya know? Tresa (Acorn): Yeah. Mr. Jim Miller: It's a suburban area that fell on it's sword. James: Like a white flight? Mr. Jim Miller: Yeah, literally. Uh to the south, it's really southwest, you're coming into Riverside and then further down into the Marino Valley. Uh, Riverside Riverside Corona would be a good place for you. I'm not say I'm not endorsing it, but I'm saying with what's around here, your best chance would be there. Hannah (Eden): Right. What's? 7 : Would be where? Where? Hannah (Eden): Why? Riverside? Mr. Jim Miller: Yeah. It's more uh it's more diverse. Here you're looking at 75 percent poverty. The poverty level in Riverside is much much lower. Ryan (Jeff): It might be better. Mr. Jim Miller: Yep. Hannah (Eden): Yeah. I just thought ya know with the girls having them here might be a little bit James: Safer. Hannah (Eden): Safer. Tresa (Acorn): Yeah. James: Because it's sort of out - indiscreet. [unintelligible] Mr. Jim Miller: That's true, but if you're going to get the business you've got to be out on the street. Ryan (Jeff): Or Hannah (Eden): But I was tr... Mr. Jim Miller: Or do it do through prospecting
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Hannah (Eden): I mean I I'm pretty comfortable with going and traveling and being in different areas so I I don't know if I'm just too confident in my abilities to bring people back and recommend coming to the house. Hannah (Eden): for the girls or what Mr. Jim Miller: Well, it's likely to work for you. Hannah (Eden): Yeah. I mean, they they work for me. Mr. Jim Miller: Yeah. But if the girls if the girls have a 300 word English vocabulary then you have to match them up to the market. Hannah (Eden): Yeah. Mr. Jim Miller: And that immediately takes you either into a uh Spanish speaking Hannah (Eden): Well, well. Mr. Jim Miller: Uh, business crowd. Hannah (Eden): Well, a lot of people that I run into, they don't care whether the girls speak English or not. Mr. Jim Miller: That's right. Hannah (Eden): You know. Mr. Jim Miller: It's utilitarian. Hannah (Eden): Yeah. So. Mr. Jim Miller: It's wam bam thank you maam. Hannah (Eden): But, so Riverside? Mr. Jim Miller: Mmm Hmm Hannah (Eden): That's something to consider. Mr. Jim Miller: Yeah, because Riverside is a bedroom community but it has uh a couple of junior colleges and I believe a college and uh it's got money. James: Okay. Mr. Jim Miller: Granted if you're downtown in the old area you know the 19- 1910 area like 14th street and around in there uh you'll find a couple of huge old turn of the century turn of the 19-20th century uh hotels and there's other stuff scattered out. And if you go to the outside of town, you know in any direction, then it kind of degrades. But you've got a far bigger nucleus, even though there's 200,000 people around here somewhere. Tresa (Acorn): Two hundred and thirty
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Mr. Jim Miller: Okay. There uh. Tresa (Acorn): And i've talked to everyone of them. Mr. Jim Miller: Who's asking you for something. Tresa (Acorn): That's right. Um, Kathleen had an idea. A question actually. Why don't you have you thought about going to Nevada, where it actually is legal? James: That's a good idea. Hannah (Eden): I'm just sick of... traveling Mr. Jim Miller: Clarke county Hannah (Eden): but I mean [unintelligible] Tresa (Acorn): It's a it's across yeah I mean it's not that far. You know Vegas is James: Wait wait a min listen. No matter. Li Li Li Li the [unintelligible] James: Nevada may be legal when it comes to prostitution but remember we're dealing with like 13-14 year old Tresa (Acorn): Right. James: 14 you know. Um. Hannah (Eden): year old girls. James: Yeah. Well. Mr. Kathleen: Oh. As employees? James: Yeah. That's that's Hannah (Eden): Yeah. James: Yes. Yes. Tresa (Acorn): From Hun um Hannah (Eden): El Salvador James: El Salvador. El Salvador. We uh I have a connection through some of my friends and Mr. Kathleen: You plan to bring people over? James: Yeah
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Hannah (Eden): They're, well, uh they're here. With the James: They're abused and she's gonna Hannah (Eden): So I wanna take them Mr. Kathleen: And get them where? James: And get them in a in a home or as part of our business. Mr. Kathleen: But you want them to work? Hannah (Eden): Yeah. Ryan (Jeff): Of course. Mr. Kathleen: In the business James: Well. Well. We'll like them to go to school too. Hannah (Eden): They're already they're already working. And I would It's I I'm hoping that I'll have a safer environment for them and use them for. Mr. Kathleen: But what about your own personal risk as far as going to jail yourselves? James: That's Tresa (Acorn): That's what they're trying to cover. Hannah (Eden): That's what we're trying to [unintelligible] James: That's why I'm trying to cover my ass. Hannah (Eden): Figure out paperwork and stuff like that Mr. Kathleen: I'd go where it's legal. James: It's not legal in any state to have 13 year old girls Mr. Kathleen: Right. Doing anything. James: Doing tricks. Hannah (Eden): Exactly. Yeah. Mr. Kathleen: Right. So, I don't know why you want to put yourselves at risk ta Ryan (Jeff): Well, because we want we wanna Mr. Kathleen: Well, yeah. So, why don't you think about getting them getting them some kind of James: (sigh)
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Hannah (Eden): Maybe I can sell them. Mr. Kathleen: place to live and legitimate legitimate work. James: (sigh) because we can't afford it unless they're working. Tresa (Acorn): This is James: You can't Tresa (Acorn): that's just the way to make the biggest the most amount of money in the shortest amount of time. James: Right. Mr. Kathleen: I understand that but ummm. Mr. Jim Miller: But she wants to run low overhead. Hannah (Eden): Umm Hmm. Mr. Kathleen: I don't know how you're going to stay out of the arms of the law yourselves, and I don't think you're going to like being in the have you been have any of you been incarcerated? Hannah (Eden): I have. (laughs) Tresa (Acorn): No. I mean at least the young people. Have they hum have any of you been incarcerated? Ryan (Jeff): I've been a few times overnight. James: De - detained. Nothing, nothing major. Mr. Kathleen: Okay. Well from what I'm told from what I'm told, it ain't no piece of cake and once you get in, you'll never get out. So I James: I don't wanna get caught. Mr. Jim Miller: Well, if you're properly funded, you can probably buy your way out. Mr. Kathleen: Yeah, right. James: That's, that's true. That's the way it is in politics. Mr. Jim Miller: Yeah. Mr. Kathleen: Yeah. Mr. Jim Miller: But you've gotta have money Mr. Kathleen: Get used to it. You're not talking hundreds of dollars I'm sure
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Mr. Jim Miller: to develop the roots. James: Yes. Mr. Kathleen: Do you wanna put these locks on? Mr. Jim Miller: Yes. James: Alright. Mr. Jim Miller: Alright. Mr. Kathleen: Alright. I don't think we know where to where you can go, and I think you need to rethink your way of helping the girls. James: That might be F (?) Mr. Kathleen: I think that if yer James: There's a lot to say, frankly. Mr. Kathleen: If you're in it to help girls, there must be some other way to help girls. Tresa (Acorn): They're in it for the money. Mr. Kathleen: Well, if you're in it for the money. [unintelligible] You're probably, you're probably gonna become victimized by the legal system yourselves. So James: Yeah. Mr. Kathleen: So you just have to think. You know, uh. Hannah (Eden): Well, they're already used to it. So I'm just Mr. Kathleen: That's not the point. That's not the point, but Tresa (Acorn): But from Eden's point of view, Eden started when she was 12. Well, and and she and so James: 14 Tresa (Acorn): 14 I'm sorry. The the girls' okay14 um so but and and she's talking about it for arguments sake this is from me that from a strictly business point of view you know now I don't feel it at all myself that that that these young girls should be victimized but I think that they're better off with these if just on the face Mr. Kathleen: Well, I can't argue with you. Tresa (Acorn): They're better off with these people than they are with the pimp they're with. Mr. Kathleen: I can't argue with that.
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Tresa (Acorn): Yeah. Yeah. Mr. Kathleen: The only problem is that the legal system Tresa (Acorn): Yeah. Mr. Kathleen: is not going to see it that way. It's legally you're going to be in the eyes of the legal system Hannah (Eden): We're trying to describe it maybe as a spa or something. Mr. Kathleen: just like the other guy. Well. Mr. Jim Miller: That's unique. Mr. Kathleen: Yeah. The spa part is a classic for this and I know chiropractors who known to lose these licenses. I had a friend that got caught in that one. He was just looking for a place to chiropractics. Tresa (Acorn): Really? Mr. Kathleen: And they were doing prostitution. James: Hmmm Mr. Kathleen: He ended up losing his license for [unintelligible] Tresa (Acorn): Did he really? Mr. Kathleen: Umm Hmm Tresa (Acorn): Well, that was foolish. He didn't know he was getting into a whore house when he got started? Mr. Kathleen: Well, I guess he thought he wouldn't be victimized. Hannah (Eden): Duh! Tresa (Acorn): Well, I mean, think about it. Hannah (Eden): Duh! Mr. Kathleen: But the point is the point is, he paid a big price. He paid a big price. So um Tresa (Acorn): Well, apparently it was worth it to him going in. Mr. Kathleen: I don't think he made any money on it because I think he was really doing legitimate chiropractics. Tresa (Acorn): Oh, I'm sure he was. But I I imagine being around all those women didn't hurt any. Mr. Kathleen: My point is, I don't think he got any benefit. I don't think he got any benefit.
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Mr. Jim Miller: His bottom line. Mr. Kathleen: His bottom line didn't improve in terms of chiropractic or in terms of getting his money from any of the other stuff. Tresa (Acorn): You're right. I I like her. Mr. Kathleen: Yeah. So, yeah. Mr. Jim Miller: So um Mr. Kathleen: There, there are things Tresa (Acorn): Well, that's good. That's what we need is feedback. Mr. Kathleen: There have to be better ways of helping children like this. [unintelligible] There have to be better ways of helping children like this. Ryan (Jeff): We should just use that. Tresa (Acorn): I know. I know. Ryan (Jeff): A bunch of empty offices in there. Mr. Jim Miller: They'd welcome it. Tresa (Acorn): Oh, there's like 50 of them in there. Ryan (Jeff): Really? Mr. Kathleen: And I would think that the best thing Ryan (Jeff): We should just work th Mr. Kathleen: would be to get them - return them to their families James: They don't have families. Mr. Kathleen: Well, maybe some of them do and maybe some of them don't and maybe their families didn't realize what it was going to turn out to be and maybe if their families heard what was really going on their families those who have families would want to do something else and maybe if they had the option to go home and try something else they might take that option. So... Tresa (Acorn): These girls kicked and screamed cuz they didn't wanna go, but their families sold them off into prostitution. Mr. Kathleen: Well, yeah that's more um that's more than unfortunate. Tresa (Acorn): Yeah. Yeah. Mr. Kathleen: Um.
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Tresa (Acorn): Enough. I'll I'll I'll get it. So Mr. Jim Miller: Well, one of the one of the things [unintelligible] Mr. Kathleen: They're all illegal Mr. Jim Miller: that is a disadvantage as well as an advantage. It's very hard to hit a moving target. James: Right. Mr. Jim Miller: So, if you're constantly relocating you run a better chance Tresa (Acorn): Well, maybe what you need is some vans and RV's Hannah (Eden): A van and an RV? James: Well, we were thinking about a school bus. Mr. Kathleen: Yeah, that's another [unintelligible]. That's another possibility. Mr. Jim Miller: [unintelligible] set up a 501c3 Mr. Kathleen: Or just even a Mr. Jim Miller: Small school? Mr. Kathleen: trailer? James: Small school. Well, that's what she said- a group home. Mr. Jim Miller: Okay. James: A group home or a small school. We could do something like that. I mean Mr. Kathleen: Sooner or later you're gonna James: I don't know too much about this stuff. Mr. Kathleen: Ya, sooner or later you're gonna get burned. And you're gonna be treated just like like like the pimps they're with. So, you have to decide what you want for your future. Hannah (Eden): Um Mr. Kathleen: And if if this is the only way you can help a girl and if if you're not really interested in helping her and you're really not Hannah (Eden): Well, I wanna be able to get have money so that when he runs for office one day after law school
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Mr. Kathleen: You, you figure you with with a history like this your gonna be able ta ta even Hannah (Eden): Well, he won't be connected to me. It's gonna be all my own. Mr. Kathleen: Uh Huh. Well. Hannah (Eden): So James: No one knows about Mr. Kathleen: You won't be James: No one no one knows about this Mr. Kathleen: You will be in good you [unintelligible] It will be good practice for politics. Mr. Jim Miller: First time we've all even talked about that. Yeah. James: I'm, I'm not Hannah (Eden): First hand experience James: No one's gonna know about this. No one's finding out about this. I'm not connected to this in any way. I mean I might use the mo some of the money that that we make you know, but I'm. As of right now, the only human beings that know about this, are the people standing right here, and these are my trusted colleagues and you know my girlfriend who I love very much. No one is gonna to know about this, but I am gonna use some of this money... Mr. Kathleen: Why don't you just go to law school and postpone helping girls. Go to law school James: Because you can make a hundred times the amount of money doing this than you can working at some law firm. And I if I wanna run for campaign... Mr. Kathleen: For awhile. James: If I Mr. Kathleen: It's not a sustainable career. James: It's the risk I gotta take in life Mr. Kathleen: It's not a sustainable career. James: If I wanna run for office and I wanna make significant political change, I'm gonna need money for the advertising. I'm gonna need money for Mr. Kathleen: Well, you will James: congress Mr. Kathleen: will prosti well you would definitely prostitute yourself to somebody sometime
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multiple times. There's no question of that. Mr. Jim Miller: As a successful politician. Mr. Kathleen: Yeah. James: I mean. I'm just telling you the way I look at it. I'm a young guy so maybe I'm naïve, but I just see it as if that I wanna run for congress one day, I'm going to need money and this is a very lucrative way to make money and additionally maybe get these girls on their feet. Mr. Kathleen: I think I think, ultimately, it will backfire on you. I think ultimately it will backfire. James: That's that's yer thing. But that's yer Ryan (Jeff): I've got to meet with Jeff. Mr. Kathleen: Yeah. And we can't help you with anything. James: What? Ryan (Jeff): I have to meet with Jeff. Mr. Kathleen: So, we need to get this James: Okay. Mr. Kathleen: Cuz I have a ton of stuff to do. Let's go in and play with [unintelligible] Mr. Jim Miller: Okay. James: Alright. Ryan (Jeff): And then, I'll call you in just a little bit. James: Alright. Mr. Jim Miller: [unintelligible] James: Thank you for your time, though. Mr. Jim Miller: You bet. James: Thank you for your time. Hannah (Eden): Thank you. Mr. Jim Miller: Take care. Ryan (Jeff): Thanks. Mr. Jim Miller: You bet.
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James: Me? Aw Ryan (Jeff): I'll meet chu uh I'll mee I'll mee I'll call you. James: Alright. Ryan (Jeff): I'll give you a call. James: Alright. Ryan (Jeff): Okay. James: Uh, call me call me in a bit. *** [noise clunking shuffling car door] James: (sigh) Oh shit. [garbled voices - uninteligible] Tresa (Acorn): Hey, James. James: Hello. Tresa (Acorn): Okay. Well, I'm gonna have to get back to work now because uh my boss has been calling so I this is um this is all going in the book and you know cuz you know I'm writing a book. This is just another chapter. Hannah (Eden): Oh, cool. Tresa (Acorn): Ya. This is a great chapter. Hannah (Eden): Cool, you ready? Tresa (Acorn): Oh yeah. Hannah (Eden): [unintelligible] autobiography. Tresa (Acorn): [unintelligible] truth is stranger than fiction. Yeah. Hannah (Eden): Okay. Tresa (Acorn): Yeah. Hannah (Eden): Well. Tresa (Acorn): So. Well, when it comes out believe me, then I will dedicate to Eden and James James: Oh
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Tresa (Acorn): And Jeff Hannah (Eden): And Jeff Tresa (Acorn): And Jeff (laughs) James: Yeah Tresa (Acorn): And I'll probably write you looking just like you are. It will be it will be James: I'll dress up a little nicer. Tresa (Acorn): Oh, no. You look just fine. And, and keep this. Hannah (Eden): Okay. Tresa (Acorn): Okay. James: Isn't she sexy? Tresa (Acorn): Her too. Of course. James: Yeah. Tresa (Acorn): Yes. James: That's why she's my girlfriend. Tresa (Acorn): (laughs) I can see that. You're pretty sexy too. James: Oh? Tresa (Acorn): Yes. James: Thank you. Tresa (Acorn): Yeah. Oh, yeah. James: I'm not a male prostitute. Tresa (Acorn): Isn't he? Hannah (Eden): He's not a male prostitute. You can't be [unintelligible] I forbid you from that. Tresa (Acorn): Better not goin be goin and lookin for any hookers either. Well. James: No, I don't Hannah (Eden): No James: [unintelligible] unlike her you know.
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Tresa (Acorn): Well, hey Hannah (Eden): I'm loyal to you. Tresa (Acorn): It takes a strong man. Hannah (Eden): Kinda. Tresa (Acorn): with a political agenda. James: And and Tresa (Acorn): to do something like this James: And a financial agenda. Tresa (Acorn): Yes. And I like those hand in hand. Again, somebody like this is very special. Hannah (Eden): Did he call me a PR girl? James: Yeah. Why did he say that? Hannah (Eden): Yeah, he said PR. Tresa (Acorn): Public relations. Eh buh he uh buh because he was not sure if he could say uh he's not like me James: He's not straight forward. Tresa (Acorn): Yeah. James: How, how do you trust someone like that? To walk over to someone's house? How do you trust him? Tresa (Acorn): I, I, I do trust him. Now James: You do? Tresa (Acorn): [unintelligible] never met [unintelligible] James: I was afraid to even divulge. He was asking me these questions Tresa (Acorn): Yeah. James: I was afraid to. I don't know the guy. Tresa (Acorn): Yeah. I gave him the low down before before I introduced you. James: And he was okay with that. Tresa (Acorn): That's, yes. Yes.
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James: How, how do you trust someone that is Tresa (Acorn): I, I, I trust him because I would just stand right up in a court of law and say I never said that. James: Yeah. Hannah (Eden): Yeah. Tresa (Acorn): You know. James: But as long as you can trust him that you know to say the same thing. Tresa (Acorn): Yeah. I'm gonna talk to him again about that. Hannah (Eden): About her Tresa (Acorn): About Kathleen. Hannah (Eden): Yeah. James: She's Tresa (Acorn): Yeah, yeah. And then, I 'll tell him that you guys are moving on to uh I don't know Guadalajara or somewhere. James: Any chance that you [garble] I wonder but like is there any way that you can not tell your boss about this? Tresa (Acorn): I won't tell my boss anything about this. James: Okay. Thank you. Tresa (Acorn): Otherwise, she'll be looking around you know and she'll be running her out of town. Hannah (Eden): Yeah. James: That would mean a lot for us. Tresa (Acorn): Just so she can get to you. James: Well Hannah (Eden): So, she's a skank? Tresa (Acorn): Yep. (laughs) James: I, I, it would just mean a lot to me. Tresa (Acorn): No. [unintelligible] I really won't tell her James: Thank you.
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Tresa (Acorn): because this is too precious. It really is. I, I don't want and he's just another character, you know. Tresa (Acorn): Okay. Hannah (Eden): In the book? And in our lives Tresa (Acorn): And in your lives. Yeah. James: You've got to tell me about this book someday. How come Hannah (Eden): Yeah. Tresa (Acorn): He's only 73. James: Wah? Hannah (Eden): Yeah. Tresa (Acorn): So, so he actually I mean and check him out. I mean, he, he, he talked a good he talked a good story, right? Hannah (Eden): Yeah. Yeah. He did. He gave us James: He talked a good story. He was just like you know I Tresa (Acorn): He had nothing to do with James: I can trust ACORN, Tresa (Acorn): Yeah. James: but I don't know if I can trust some random guy. Tresa (Acorn): You can trust him James: in some house. Tresa (Acorn): You have my word. James: Okay. Tresa (Acorn): Now. You have my word on that and I don't give my word easily, but as soon as you leave I'm gonna go talk to the both of them and threaten them with their lives because I can kill people. Hannah (Eden): Yeah. Tresa (Acorn): Annahama problem with that. Okay? And I know exac I, I, I do know. And I want you to know that that um by the time I'm finished with him he will think this never happened.
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James: Really? Tresa (Acorn): Um hmm James: Is it like Tresa (Acorn): She knows I can [unintelligible] Hannah (Eden): Yeah. James: Is it through yer people or like people you know can can do that? Hannah (Eden): It's through her Tresa (Acorn): From me. I, I, I'm the one that that did my husband. James: Yeah. That, that means a lot to us. Thank you. We don't want word getting out, ya know? Tresa (Acorn): No. Okay. And I don't just go around telling everybody I killed my husband either. James: I understand. Tresa (Acorn): I honestly don't. In fact Hannah (Eden): She knows that we understand that Tresa (Acorn): Yeah. James: Okay. You probably talked to her more Tresa (Acorn): So the thing is is that don't worry about these two people um because I'm about to go and tell them that that they didn't even hear any of this. James: Okay. Tresa (Acorn): Um and they'll believe they'll believe me. James: Thank you very much. Tresa (Acorn): So don't worry about it. Um James: And your book, the title of your book will be? Tresa (Acorn): Oh, well I don't have the title, yet. James: Oh. Tresa (Acorn): Mmm Mmm Hannah (Eden): Gotta have the material and then
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Tresa (Acorn): Yeah. Oh, I have lots of material. James: I bet you do. Tresa (Acorn): Yes. James: Got a lot of characters like us walking through these doors. Tresa (Acorn): Well, you know ah a diamond in the rough comes by every once in awhile. James: That's good. Tresa (Acorn): And ah you guys definitely shine. (all laugh) I love it. I love it, and you are sexy. Isn't he? Hannah (Eden): He is. Tresa (Acorn): You are totally sexy. Yeah. Take it from a woman who knows and another one who really knows. James: Awww. Thank you. Tresa (Acorn): You know. At this [unintelligible] be too. You are. You really are. James: Thank you. Tresa (Acorn): You're welcome. James: You're very good looking yourself for [unintelligible]. Hannah (Eden): And he's taken James: I need Tresa (Acorn): Oh, that's right. James: I ah I didn't even catch your name. Tresa (Acorn): My name's Theresa. If you know anybody that James: Theresa- an autobiography Tresa (Acorn): Yeah. Okay. Oh, I'm sure that I'll have it you know a pen name by the end. James: Oh Tresa (Acorn): [unintelligible] (all laugh) Or, or let's see who's is that one uh uh let's see Anastasia Beaverhousen. Hannah (Eden): (laughs) you're [garbled] Tresa (Acorn): Do you know who that is?
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Hannah (Eden): No, but it sounds like a guh Anastasia Tresa (Acorn): Anastasia Beaverhousen. Did you ever wah did you ever watch um Will and Grace? Hannah (Eden): Yeah. Tresa (Acorn): Well, you know um um Karen the the one with the little you know the secretary with the Hannah (Eden): Yeah. Tresa (Acorn): You know she's rich but Hannah (Eden): Right. Tresa (Acorn): she works for whatever you know red head Hannah (Eden): Yeah. James: Mmm hmm Tresa (Acorn): Um. That is her when she goes out um to pick up guys in bars James: Mm hmm Tresa (Acorn): And she's really rich. Hannah (Eden): Yeah. Tresa (Acorn): And her name is “I'm Anastasia Beaverhousen”. James: (all laugh) That's a weird name. Tresa (Acorn): Yeah. I know. [uninteligible] Hannah (Eden): I make up a lot I make up a bunch of different names. Tresa (Acorn): Why would you pick such a disgusting name, but Hannah (Eden): it's something along those lines. Tresa (Acorn): Yeah. Hannah (Eden): creative and exciting. Well. James: We won't use any more of your time. Thank you again. It was wonderful meeting you. Tresa (Acorn): Okay, Yeah. You, too. What are you driving?
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James: I drive a crappy, old Kia. Tresa (Acorn): Really? Hey- I had a Kia one time, and then, my husband took it away from me. It was a brand new one. James: Well, did you get it back once you shot him? Tresa (Acorn): No. I didn't. I didn't want it back after Hannah (Eden): Yeah. Tresa (Acorn): You know. James: Brought back memories. Tresa (Acorn): No. Not really. I can get over [unintelligible] like that. (all laugh) Hannah (Eden): Just need a new car. (all laugh) Tresa (Acorn): Yeah. Oh, exactly. It still had payments on it. I don't want something that's not paid for. Just make sure that you keep that in mind. Hannah (Eden): Okay. Tresa (Acorn): Yes. In your travels. James: So much stuff to remember. Tresa (Acorn): Nah. Well, yeah. But it just all comes, you know. Just like breathing, didn't it. Hannah (Eden): Yeah. James: Life is. Tresa (Acorn): You know. You already have your agenda, James. James: Yes. I do. Tresa (Acorn): You know where you wanna go. James: I do. Tresa (Acorn): And this is um a detour along the way. It's a James: Hopefully, more than a detour Tresa (Acorn): beautiful detour James: Hopefully, more than a detour. Tresa (Acorn): Yeah. Just remember, and it's really really true, you know, if you love something, set it free.
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James: That's a song. If you love something set it Tresa (Acorn): And the goal is and if and if if it comes back then it was it was yours all along, but if it doesn't, than it never was. And then there's another one. I keep dropping these damn glasses. Lasik - that's what I should have [unintelligible] a business [unintelligible], but they didn't have it back then. Uh um hold fast and let go. Understand that paradox and you stand at the very gate of wisdom. James: Okay. Tresa (Acorn): If my husband had well given me growth, if he'd given me room, you know I would have gone anywhere. Hannah (Eden): Yeah. Tresa (Acorn): Ever. Cuz he was what I wanted when I got married. Um, but then it got tighter and tighter, you know and Hannah (Eden): You couldn't help yourself. Tresa (Acorn): Oh, yeah. I mean I couldn't say hello to anybody. You know, um and so I wanted to get away. Hannah (Eden): Yeah. Tresa (Acorn): I, I took every opportunity I had to get away. And, if he would have just trusted me and let me go, I probably would have never left the house. Hannah (Eden): Yeah. Tresa (Acorn): You know, I really wouldn't. Hannah (Eden): He seems to be doing alright. Tresa (Acorn): I'm sure he is. He's got he's got a level head. I can see that. James: Been, been through some. Even though I'm 25 i've been through some experiences already. I've been through so much stuff. Tresa (Acorn): 25 can can put some [unintelligible] under your belt. James: Since college, I've been through a couple of weird things. Tresa (Acorn): Yeah. Hannah (Eden): Yeah. James: So, that's what's given me a lot of my Hannah (Eden): Yeah. Yeah. Tresa (Acorn): Yeah. Well, you have that politician type look.
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James: What's the what how do you? Explain. Tresa (Acorn): He wears a tie during the day. A tie (laughs) [unintelligible] James: It's a casual tie. [unintelligible] Tresa (Acorn): You have the hair. You have that that that regal what nationality are you? James: Irish. Tresa (Acorn): Okay. Good. James: Mmm hmm Tresa (Acorn): Good. Than you're English. You must have James: [unintelligible] English. How did you know? Tresa (Acorn): Because you have that regal look that regal um um profile. James: Okay. Tresa (Acorn): Yes. And, and this but the the look right in your eyes James: Mmm Tresa (Acorn): is look of royalty. Like um Princess Di, remember? Hannah (Eden): Mmm hmm Tresa (Acorn): And, yeah, the royal family. Hannah (Eden): How do you like being said you look like a princess? James: I don't know nothing about that, but I like being compared to royalty. Tresa (Acorn): He does look like a princess. Okay? How bout Prince Charles? James: Uh, Prince Charming, maybe? Hannah (Eden): Prince Charming. Tresa (Acorn): Yeah. Okay. Yes. Yes. Now, I just mean the look of royalty um through the centuries is nothing but um it's like the best. You know. It's the best look you could have. James: Well, I appreciate that. Tresa (Acorn): I mean, it's class. It's, it's money. Ah, wealth. And all kinds of just, all kinds of minors. James: Okay. Tresa (Acorn): Okay, I've I've I've preached long enough.
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Hannah (Eden): Thanks a lot for all yer Tresa (Acorn): Your welcome. Buh bye. James: [unintelligible] Tresa (Acorn): Okay. James: Bye bye. Tresa (Acorn): Bye bye. Hannah (Eden): Alright. Remember, when you break up with me, be kind. (all laugh) Tresa (Acorn): Bye bye. James: Bye bye. Hannah (Eden): Bye. James: Ahhhhh Hannah (Eden): I have to tell you what she said to me. James: Did you have your voice recorder on? Hannah (Eden): I had something on James: Hopefully, it was your voice recorder. Hannah (Eden): I think it was my camera [unintelligible]. James: Oh, I had had my tie cam on [unintelligible] Hannah (Eden): No. I mean it wasn't really alot. But she was talking you and how I'm going to break your heart. James: Alright. This is great. I'll open the door for you to make it look like we're. Ahh. I guarantee it the guy across the street is staring at us. So, whatever you do, don't do anything that you wouldn't do if you weren't a prostitute. Hannah (Eden): Okay. [clunking – rustling - car starting] James: There, it was on... You can turn it off. I used every last bit of battery power and memory on this thing today. [end]
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