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									                 Re: Postdoc jobs from multiple companies can be found on indeed.com

Re: Postdoc jobs from multiple companies can be
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      • From: phil scott <phil@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
      • Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2007 13:48:33 −0700

On Jun 7, 8:05 pm, BMJ <squeakwiz...@xxxxxxxx> wrote:

        Straydog wrote:

        <snip>


                          I took many projects deliberatey to gain broad experience
                          and learn
                          new ranges of technical applications etc. that has been quite
                          valuable, I can see solutions others cannot in many cases...
                          however as you folks have been pointing out, none of that is
                          saleable
                          or valuable in the current 'job' market....



                 What THEY want is CHEAP and YOUNG and EXPLOITABLE warm
                 bodies. The rest
                 of us can eat crow.


        Which begs the question: how do these outfits expect to stay in business
        and provide high−quality goods or services when they don't want to hire
        people with experience and/or education? I suspect that we are in, to
        borrow a phrase that I first heard in the Ken Burns documentary series "The
        Civil War", the Age of Shoddy. They simply don't care.



with tens of thousands of prime US companies SOLD to the chinese over
the last decade, I think a large part of why they dont care is that
the principles are selling and leaving with the cash... they have no
interest at all in the companies future.

the chinese buyers dont care because they have purchased the
technology and have a vast surplus of PhD level S and E's to fathom
what we did and how to clone or advance it.

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that may in fact be the total answer to our questions along these
lines.... why do these companies still respond to our resume's and
call us in for interviews? they have to satisfy the HIB visa
requirements and probably for other govt purposes.


Phil Scott




                        Fortune mag, May issue has a one page article on america's
                        attitude
                        toward education..its being trashed, parents are increasingly
                        calling
                        school administrators to complain about attempts to teach
                        little
                        johnny algebra 'what does he need *that for'...and of course
                        its that
                        parent who is old enough to work for a company and drive
                        its hiring
                        policy.



                2 year school programs will be better for most.


        Having taught at a two−year institution, I've seen how that system can be
        circumvented by certain parties. Not a pretty sight.




                        the article points out how this will bankrupt the US in dire
                        terms.
                        If it had gone on to explain how letting 20 million
                        uneducated aliens
                        will affect the nation, as these are authorized to bring in their
                        families, for a total of 40 or 50 million, as more than that
                        many
                        educated american middle class retires...the picture gets dim

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               Re: Postdoc jobs from multiple companies can be found on indeed.com

                       indeed.



               There are studies to show they eat up more services than the money they
               save their employers.


      A major computer retail chain here in Canada is closing a number of its
      outlets. At its peak, it had four of them in my city and, when the
      close−out sales end, there'll only be one left, as far as I know.

      It used to be a great place to buy equipment and software and I left a lot
      of $$$ there over the years. However, in the last five or so years, I
      noticed that the quality of service declined. I'm not sure if it's
      related, but the average age of the staff steadily went down during that
      same time as well. It could well have been an act of desperation to remain
      solvent.

      How a large part of its organization's going belly up.

      BTW, I bought a demonstrator computer and LCD monitor so I can tinker with
      Linux at one of them. I saved over a third. I set up everything and the
      machinery works. Now to set up for Linux.....




                       thats a net 100 million or more change to the negative in the
                       total US
                       work force. (168 million).... without the US middle class
                       breeding
                       even to replacement levels, but with the uneducated folk,
                       who today
                       statistics show drop out of school at the highest rates,
                       breeding at 2
                       or 3x replaement rates.



               I want to know who is going to pay these ridiculous tuitions when kids
               won't be able to get those $100K loans any more, and won't get good jobs
               to pay off those loans.


      One word: plastic.

      <snip>




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