NASNA Minneapolis, MN – Saturday, June 18, 2011
David Lucas - KY, CMRS Board Chair Mark Tennyson - OR, Office of Emergency Management
Joe Barrows – KY, Kentucky 9-1-1 Office Bob Oenning, - WA, Retired
Barry C. Ritter – IN, Wireless Board Bill Youell – CT, Office Statewide Emergency Telecomm.
Bill Jensen – UT, Utah 9-1-1 Committee Alyssa Watkins – WY, Teton County, WY
Bill Range – NM, Dept. of Finance & Administration Eddie Goldsmith –ID, IECC
Bruce Cheney – NH, Emergency Services & Teresa Baker – ID, ECC
Communications Paul Mallett – TX, CSEC
Renee Hardwick - SC, SC 9-1-1 Advisory Board Dorothy Spears-Dean – VA, VITA
Michael Webb - KS, Kansas Governor’s Office Daryl Branson – CO, Colorado 9-1-1 Resource Center
Harriet Miller-Brown – MI, State 9-1-1 Office (MSP) Barbara Vos – IA, Homeland Security & EM 9-1-1 Program
Richard Taylor – NC Dept of Information Technology Lynn Questell – TN, Emergency Communications Board
Thera Bradshaw – HI, Hawaii Wireless 911
Richard Taylor opened the meeting at 9:00 a.m.
Richard Taylor gave the group a welcome and went over housekeeping items. The group went through introductions.
Thomas Nagle, USDOT, is a guest at the meeting and will be discussing light squared.
Approval of Phoenix November 2010 minutes
Joe Barrows asked to change KS to KY next to his name on the attendance list from Phoenix. Bob Oenning made motion
to accept minutes. Joe Barrows seconded. All ayes, motion passed.
Bob Oenning gave treasurer’s report. Our biggest expense item is meetings. Invoices have been sent out to members for
2012 dues. Motion made by Paul Mallett to accept treasurer’s report. Eddie Goldsmith seconded. All ayes, motion passed.
Elections, Both Richard Taylor and Harriet Miller-Brown ran unopposed for president and secretary respectively. There
were two candidates for treasurer/vice president, Barry Ritter and Daryl Branson. In a close race between two highly
qualified candidates, the results will make Daryl Branson the new Treasurer for NASNA.
Ken Lowden went over the meeting logistics for lunch and tonight’s dinner. Dinner is at 7:00 p.m. and the hotel will be
providing the shuttle over. We will be joined with NASNA alums. Ken Lowden reported on several members who were
unable to attend. Ken Lowden explained internet access in guest rooms.
Ken Lowden went over the initial details for Fall meeting. October 31 is a travel day and the meeting days are November 1
and 2. The meetings will be held in Myrtle Beach, SC. Ken has been able to use the rates for the SC NENA Conference
to help secure a good rate for the group and flights from the major airports are reasonable.
There was discussion on future meetings, costs, and fees for meetings.
State reports: (Full written versions were sent out to all in e-mail form prior to the meeting.)
Dorothy Spears-Dean, VA – Working on NG9-1-1 has been primary focus. They are working a lot with local units of
government; the locals are looking at consolidation and funding systems. The PSAP community is driving a lot of the
discussion. Working on an advocacy group of a 9-1-1 caucus in VA. She has finished her PhD.
Lynn Questell, TN – Focus is on NG9-1-1, they are standing up the core. Lynn visited three primary areas of the state to
explain and answer questions. TCS is going to manage network, AT&T is network frame, and Kimball is coordinating. Will
first do VoIP and Wireless, then move to the landline. They will use $1.5 million in federal grants for IP routers. There are
two central points and four aggregation points. Fee is both state and local; state is non wireline and local is landline.
Barbara Vos, IA - Still negotiating contract with TCS for network. There is legislation that hasn’t been able to get to
committee. Kimball is contractor for network manager, when they get network. They also have an RFP out for a 9-1-1
Daryl Branson, CO – NG9-1-1:They are going through the checklist for the NENA partners NG91-1 implementation
handbook. They are the guinea pig on the project and are going through the checklist. The results of the review are
available at the Colorado Resource Center web site. It will also be discussed at the session at NENA. They are under K
with Mission critical to look at Funding, options, governances, for NG9-1-1 for Colorado to move forward. There is no state
body in Colorado, so they are looking for options to go about implementing NG9-1-1 w/o state coordination.
Paul Mallett, TX - Statute that implements CSEC ends in 3 months, bill has been passed to extend and now sitting on
govenor’s desk. All funds for NG9-1-1 were taken out of program so all they have now is federal funds. They have hired
physician to oversee poison control.
Paul Mallett offered to the group more information on Cell Phone Sally and told the group that it has really taken off in
Alyssa Watkins, WY – Still no state oversight, they are doing a statewide survey of PSAP status. There are some PSAPs
that are not even Phase I. A bill for prepaid was introduced in legislature, but it was squashed. There are 31 PSAPs in the
Bill Youell, CT – CT is building a fiber optic Public Safety Data Network for IP 9-1-1, P25, Collect Law Enforcement
Database and other applications. Originally designed for 112 PSAP and state facility locations, it now is being expanded
into a much larger network due to a BTOP grant award. The network will ultimately connect 667 PSAP, police, fire and
tower locations. The network is required to be completed by September, 2013. The state reissued an RFP for NG911 in
September. Kimball has been retained to assist with the RFP development and evaluation. The RFP is separated into
options for CPE/software only and full-blown NG to allow flexibility depending on the price and design. Responses are
due in November.
Kimball was also retained to perform a PSAP consolidation study to determine the appropriate number of PSAPs for a
state the size of CT (currently 106 PSAPs for a population of 3.5 million). 100% of the PSAPs have been
surveyed/interviewed and the State is currently evaluating the draft document. The 9-1-1 surcharge cap was not
increased from its current 50 cent rate in the last legislative session and efforts are already underway to harness the
various public safety/municipal organizations to make sure there is enough support to get the cap raised in the spring
Bob Oenning, WA - Legislation introduced for prepaid POS, but the bill hasn’t gone anywhere because tax changes and
increases need two thirds vote. In Washington the 9-1-1 fee is a tax. NG9-1-1 ESINet has been up for a year, but the
PSAPs have not connected to it yet due to the PSAPs’ individual schedules. The PSAPs are now migrating to the
network. Very few routers on legacy system, but everyone is connected to at least two. Telcos have been very difficult to
work with in migration so they learned that they should last because they are running two networks. Texting will likely be
like wireless; there are selected PSAPs that take all the wireless calls in a given county.
Funding-wise, the state pays the network and the database. State went from 20 to 25 cents. 9-1-1 program is being re-
Thera Bradshaw, HI – Legislation passed for 9-1-1 board; it is all 9-1-1 now, not just wireless. $16 million in 9-1-1 funds
were taken from fund. This year they had better success in protecting 9-1-1 funds; AARP is helping with protection of
funds and getting involved in passing legislation. Hawaii is looking at creating a full-time 9-1-1 office. There was a student
who won the state science project and his project was on 9-1-1, so that has helped to bring more attention to 9-1-1 and its
issues. Hawaii has unique challenges in being a set of isolated islands that are far from mainland United States. Spending
cap has been extended from $9 million to $14 million.
Mark Tennyson, OR – State was ready to issue RFP for NG9-1-1, but the legislature thought it would be better if they
looked at consolidation and the locals took on a study and the legislature wasn’t happy with the results (report said
consolidation should occur naturally). The state then contracted with Kimball to come in and perform a study. State 9-1-1
program does not fund operations, so there is currently a battle on tying funding to consolidation.
Prepaid surcharge - Oregon does not have a state sales tax, but providers wanted POS and there is no mechanism in
place to collect a POS. It has become a very political issue.
Richard Taylor, NC – Prepaid legislation has been passed. New funding model started in July 1, 2011. 128 PSAPs and
almost 9 million people. New funding model expects to save $40 million. North Carolina 9-1-1 fee has dropped its state
fee to 60 cents and is applying it to all devices that access 9-1-1. There is no longer local fee starting July 1. They have
made changes in what surcharge funds can be used for.
Consolidation grant has very liberal use for PSAPs that consolidate under the grants. North Carolina is implementing
operational standards. One of the standards is that PSAPs have at least 2 people on 24 x 7 basis. It is very controversial,
final rules are not through the full rule-making process. They believe that setting standards is a key step in moving to
They have done a state ortho project and will do four-year cycle, doing ¼ of the state each year. They are allowing other
public entities to access have a philosophy of “build it once, use it a bunch.” The use of 9-1-1 funds for the mapping is
considered taxpayer dollars and the taxpayers shouldn’t have to pay for it multiple times.
Harriet Miller-Brown, MI - Is working towards NG9-1-1. The SNC asked for single recommendation based on direct input
from stakeholders. Kimball made a recommendation on a state-managed prime contractor system, and the State 9-1-1
Committee did not adopt it, but opted to “receive” it instead. Still working their way through a project plan to that end.
Michael Webb, KS – Advisory board sunsets in July. All PSAPs are Phase II. They are doing CAD mapping for the
PSAPs that don’t have it. New legislation created board for both wireless and landline. ENHANCE 911 grant is being used
to bring Kimball in for evaluation of Phase II, develop a plan for NG9-1-1, and to start three initial projects. They will use
three existing PSAPs for the pilot projects. They are working plan for NG9-1-1. State IT system has network that they are
partnering with for network. New legislation protects from fund sweeps and allows board to put standards in place,
including training. Surcharge cap changed to allow for increase, but amount will remain the same.
Renee Hardwick, SC - Prepaid legislation POS. There was some wrangling on the administrative fee for the retailers; it is
at 3% (they originally wanted 7%). Starting July 1 it will be 61 cents per transaction. Right now the wireless fund goes to
state and landline goes to local units. The local PSAPs are being affected by economics; Ms. Hardwick expects to see a
regionalized system. County association wanted the funds to be allowed to pay for radios for responder units (which
would have drained the balance in the fund). South Carolina’s current legislation does not allow funds to be used for
radios and the legislation to do so did not get introduced.
NG9-1-1 is the next thing they are going to tackle. The small PSAPs will not have the funds to migrate to NG9-1-1.
Bruce Chaney, NH – They have a single PSAP for the entire state and multiple dispatch centers. New Hampshire has
been able to forestall any fund raids; however, they will be paying the new communications system, and they will also be
paying for the microwave system and half the state police dispatchers. The state has built-out their IP system to all the
dispatch centers. VoIP and prepaid legislation has not been able to get passed. They provide mapping for the entire
state, providing geo-coding and road centerlines. They split the costs with the Department of Transportation and
Department of Economic Resources and Environmental Protection. Their division is exempt from the Right to Know law.
They also map the snowmobile and other trails in state. Legislature has 200 members in the House.
Break for lunch and resume meeting
Guests from 9-1-1 Resource Center
Ben Chicka (Kimball)
Gordon VanAuken (Kimball)
Jim Goerke (Kimball)
Sara Lowry (Kimball)
Evelyn Bailey (Kimball)
Dr. Robert Cobb (NENA)
Gordon Van Auken briefed the group on the 9-1-1 Resource Center; it has 298 registered users and provides three
1. Technical Assistance
Subject areas include CAD, IP network, VoIP, radio, operational policy and procedures, funding. There is a call-in center
to get information. They are not a consulting service.
2. Information Clearinghouse (Content Oversight Panel)
a. Formal policies and procedures govern review and approval process
b. Content should be useful to 9-1-1 authorities and PSAPs
c. In first year, over 130 pieces submitted for contact
d. 107 pieces of content currently available and approved
Multiple content categories, such as CAD, Consolidation, Funding, etc. Some of the documents include the NASA Model
State Plan, Texting to 9-1-1, and PSAP SOPs.
They would like have more white papers, training standards, state 9-1-1 plans, job descriptions, and state 9-1-1
regulations. The Resource Center team would like to see more information being submitted. They would like white papers
to put in database; that way, they can have some information and can perform research.
3. National Profile Database:
The group was updated on the collection of information about what is being done in the various states toward their
progress to NG9-1-1 and other statewide information.
What they currently have in place is a web form that can be filled out by the states. Tight time frame between first of
year and June reporting period. Summary data includes:
a. Total number of calls
b. Total number of PSAPs
c. Annual projected and actual costs
d. Progress towards more advanced systems
e. 9-1-1 revenue amounts and sources.
They are graphing trends in call volumes and other information. The team shared the map of states that had
participated in surveys thus far. There was some discussion on the completion of the survey, collection of the data,
inequities in the data collection, and even some reluctance on the part of the PSAPs to submit information.
NASNA Survey Tool
Ben Chicka demonstrated this section of the Resource Center that is for NASNA members. This is the section of that
site that NASNA members can go in and look for various pieces of information, including surveys for state fees and
organizational structures. Ben walked the group through the process of entering information.
State Assessment Tool:
Sara Lowry went over the assessment tool that will evaluate the states’ status. These reports are similar to the systems
that EMS uses. An un-named state is going to be the test state in this report. The tool is not to target states on what they
may be doing wrong, but to help as a resource to measure a state’s status on 9-1-1. Ms. Lowry shared a copy of the draft
with the group. There was much discussion on the positives and negatives of having a standard of review for the states.
Sara Lowry reviewed the proposed categories of guidelines, the criteria within the guidelines, and the rationale behind the
guidelines. They will be giving a presentation of the draft at NENA this week and a group will be taking additional
comments on the draft before a final document is posted. That final document will be going through a “test run” at a
volunteer state before it is issued as a final assessment tool. Discussion ensued on the potential pros and cons of the
ECaTS (emergency Call Tracking System) presentation by Tiffany Chambers, Steve Carr, Fred Michaun and Tyler
ECatS has been tracking call information at over 600 PSAPs. How do we look at responsibility, accountability and quality
of service? Tyler Wagner and Steven Carr discussed standards, whether call answering is under the NENA standard
(from start of ring, call entering the ACD, presentation at the PSAP, etc.) or should it be measured from the caller’s
perspective? How many states have issued a standard on call answering? Some states have it, others do not. Steve Carr
explained the 90/10 rule and the 95/20 rules of the 56-0005 Call Answer standard from NENA. What other kind of
standards are important to have in call data? Some administrators were concerned about consistent data collection such
as call volume, call types, loads on trunks, and congestion.
ECaTS is an enterprise level data collection system that is CPE agnostic and can collect call and trunk statistics. In
California they found through several months of study that they could eliminate trunks that were underutilized. The system
they have developed can tailor reports that reflect the information needed in meeting standards. There are preconfigured
reports such as total calls per stations, calls by circuit, call trace report, top 20 busiest hours, class of service, and call
durations. They can also create a day-in-review report which creates a snapshot on a per day basis. It can be customized
to show various pieces of call information and can chart those data pieces into graphs.
Business drivers include length of time to call abandoned and being placed on hold excessively. The system can even
detect call anomalies, generate alarms, and trouble tickets. The system can track levels of call volume and may support
justifications for PSAP consolidations and increases. It can also give you profiles of PSAP activities such as PSAP-to-
PSAP transfers, misrouted wireless calls, and length of time for transfer completion.
ECaTS provided a live demo on how the system works. Tiffany Chambers showed the group how call data can be sorted,
exported, and levels of information access. Some of the unique reports include uptime report, which can show any
network outages, circuit utilization, and the funky call report feature (i.e. outbound calls on 9-1-1 trunks, calls that did not
Tiffany Chambers showed how ad hoc reports could be customized to PSAPs, locations, call of service, PANI, and other
criteria. The system is very intuitive and also has drop-down menus for additional statistic information. Reports can
automatically e-mail to a requestor. The ECaTS team fielded questions from the group. ECaTS is migrating their product
to read hosted solutions to continue to work in NG9-1-1. They have to collect data from two different sources rather than
Richard Taylor announced an additional item to the agenda tomorrow. Meeting adjourned at 4:55 p.m.
NASNA Minneapolis, MN – Sunday, June 19, 2011
David Lucas – KY, CMRS Board Chair Bill Youell – CT, Office Statewide Emergency
Joe Barrows, KY, Kentucky 9-1-1 Office Telceomm.
Barry C. Ritter – IN, Wireless Board, ED Alyssa Watkins – WY, Teton County, WY
Bill Jensen – UT, Utah 9-1-1 Committee Eddie Goldsmith – ID, IECC
Bruce Cheney – NH, Emergency Services & Paul Mallett – TX, CSEC
Communications Daryl Branson – CO, Colorado 9-1-1 Resource Center
Renee Hardwick – SC, SC 9-1-1 Advisory Board Barbara Vos – IA, Homeland Security & EM 9-1-1
Michael Webb - KS, Kansas Governor’s Office Program
Harriet Miller-Brown – MI, State 9-1-1 Office (MSP) Lynn Questell – TN, Emergency Communications Board
Richard N. Taylor – NC, Dept of Information Technology Dorothy Spears-Dean – VA, VITA
Mark Tennyson – OR, Office of Emergency Mgmt Thera Bradshaw – HI, Hawaii Wireless 911
Bob Oenning – WA, Retired
Richard Taylor called the meeting to order.
Richard Taylor briefly explained the patent issue and that Tim Lorello from TSC would be looking for NASNA support on a
challenge that that they are facing. Tim Lorello joined the group via conference call. In 9-1-1 several carriers have been
sued by companies (patent trolls) that bought patents on 9-1-1 routing. These companies are now claiming patent
infringement on 9-1-1 call route. TCS is seeking that a law be put in place under an existing code (a patent reform bill) that
would make the technology neutral and not subject to the patent and therefore protected. The change would protect
wireless carriers, vendors, and public safety entities. Tim Lorello is looking for NASNA’s support on this federal legislation
(pull up e-mail from Richard Taylor). Between 6 and 12 lawsuits have been filed against wireless carriers for the
infringement; there is a lot of cost going into litigation to defend and settle these cases. Tim Lorello believes that these
patents are not legitimate because the routing system is not what is being used in the routing of calls.
Thera Bradshaw asked why this was an issue that TCS was taking the lead on andTim Lorello explained that TCS is one
of the vendors that it has affected. Carriers have to address this issue because of the FFC wireless 9-1-1 mandate; all
wireless carriers have to provide 9-1-1 and therefore it affects their entire business.
Thera Bradshaw asked about the support of NENA and APCO. Tim Lorello explained that most recently, it was originally
the wireless carriers, but it became a broader issue affecting vendors and public safety. Since changing the statute may
subject the federal government to liability, NENA has been more reluctant to support the issue if public safety and vendors
are included. There is a coalition with members of the industry pushing this issue. If just the wireless operators are
covered, the coalition is larger; once the language expands to include vendors and public safety, the coalition becomes
smaller. (EMSAP and 800 Adept are trolls with location-based technology.)
Bob Oenning asked if a telco or a vendor has been sued. Tim Lorello explained that no vendor has yet been sued; it has
just been the wireless operators. The patent trolls really don’t build anything; they just file the suits to monetize on the
filing of the patents. Tim Lorello believes that they are not likely to sue the vendors because what the patent trolls really
want is to get settlements on the revenue of the wireless providers.
Tim Lorello would like the NASNA members to either support: 1) protection for wireless carriers, or 2) wireless carriers
and vendors, or wireless carriers, vendors, and public safety. The lawsuits are about technology, and so far there have
not been any on operations. There was some discussion about whether or not NASNA should get involved. Several
members are concerned about NASNA getting involved in a vendor issue. It is unlikely that a state would be sued directly
for infringement. The group consensus was that the group does not know enough about the issue or see a solid coalition
already formed in this effort to make a sound decision.
Mike Webb made MOTION to table the issue for lack of a motion, Thera Bradshaw seconded, all Ayes.
The group consensus was to see a coalition first before support is given. The group will plan on discussing the issue
again at its November meeting.
Richard Taylor brought to the group the idea of NASNA paying Ken Lowden’s expenses to the November 2011 meeting
as a gesture of appreciation to him for the hours of work he puts into coordinating the group’s meetings. Bruce Chaney
made a MOTION to cover Ken Lowden’s expenses, Bill Range seconded. All Ayes.
State Reports, Continued:
Bill Range, NM – Stakeholder in early May and main stakeholder group. Prepaid and VoIP legislation went through the
NM State House and Senate, but governor vetoed the legislation.
The absence of the new incoming revenue will affect their ability to meet the equipment replacement life cycle. They are
working on a security plan and policy to set as a requirement in anticipation of NG9-1-1. They just finished working on
their 5-year plan. Richard Taylor asked Bill Range about the New Mexico life cycle plan and if the potential non-use of
local funds of not replacing equipment that has passed its life-cycle is used to build up fund balances. The cost of
maintenance can start to exceed the cost of new equipment. Another question asked was if the state money comes with a
specific designation (i.e. specific vendor equipment must be bought at certain point in life cycle). Most states use 3-5
years as a life cycle for equipment replacement.
Bill Jensen, UT - There are about 33 people per square mile in the state. The sunset on the 9-1-1 statute will be
extended until July 1 2021. The state is mostly Phase II. The financial management of the 9-1-1 network has been folded
in the 9-1-1 Office. A 9-1-1 solution from Intrado has been implemented for wireless in VECC; if that continues to work
well, they will work into wireline and expedite to other jurisdictions.
They have implemented ECaTS. Their 9-1-1 service provider underestimated the amount of reports and the cost was an
additional $100K. The new legislation recognized that prepaid was subject to the current 9-1-1 fee, but the legislation
turned into POS based on the number minutes a customer buys. They are experiencing vendor finger pointing on a
vendor issue with a server.
Barry Ritter, IN - They have completed the upgrade of the network in their state. 18 counties are using federal monies to
move their wireline calls to the IP-network. Most of the litigation that they have going on has been resolved. They got POS
legislation on prepaid. The amount is less than expected, and if it doesn’t generate a specific amount, the POS will sunset
and revert back to the old system. Three counties have filed a bill that that will overhaul the 9-1-1 system, end the current
network, surcharge, and 9-1-1 broadband office. The funding would have come through parcel assessment, but the
legislation died. They started out with 156 PSAPs and legislation mandated two PSAPs per county. There is a county that
has 7 different consultants working on consolidation bill. State Police in Indiana has closed regional dispatch central at its
posts and now want to have transferability of calls to the PSAPs.
Joe Barrows, KY – The state has succeeded in three lawsuits for contribution to surcharge. Fees have leveled at $24
million annually. John Patterson has re-retired. Legislature had a short session and passed provision for 9-1-1 study on
efficiencies. Legislative Research Committee is going to perform the study. Joe Barrows hasn’t seen any legislation that is
equitable as far as 9-1-1 contributions between postpaid and prepaid. The bill for the study also included language to
allow him to ask questions to establish a base of information on funds and subscriber.
Dave Lucas, KY – Two proofs of concepts in the state; have a ten-county project that is carrying voice and data. They are
moving the ten-county project to a hosted CPE solution in August. RCC is consultant assisting them through project,
Solacom is server solution.
Paul Mallett announced that the governor in TX has signed the sunset bill extending the 9-1-1 statute.
Break and resume meeting
Light Squared presentation - Bill Range and Tom Nagel.
Bill Range talked to the group about the importance of GPS and how its use is widespread: farming, public safety,
maritime, etc. Mr. Nagel discussed the government's satellites that comprise the GPS system and how it was divided into
a dual use system by the Clinton administration. There are over a billion GPS receivers in use at this time. Mr. Nagel told
the group that they were reviewing the system and found a significant event: they found that Light Squared had affected a
significant interference to the GPS system. Bill Range explained that the FCC allowed the satellite band to use a
terrestrial-based frequency. Light Squared is going to build its system out for a 4G system, which is good and in keeping
with the goals of the Obama Administration.
A group of U.S. Senators has asked the FCC to look at the issue because it has the potential to really interfere with GPS
operations. OnStar has also asked for further review before Light Squared is allowed to build out its terrestrial system. Bill
Range thinks that NASNA should weigh in on the issue because of its potential impact on public safety. Mr. Nagel shared
with the group that they found interruption during a testing period of a single site. During part of the test, New Mexico
State Police lost their AVL location connectivity. The problems usually occur within a quarter mile of a tower, and in urban
areas multiple towers can have a cumulative affect. Thera Bradshaw asked if other public safety entities are involved. Bill
Range shared a letter from the U.S. Senators and OnStar.
Jeff Carlisle from Light Squared presented their side of the issue; his PowerPoint is on the NASNA web site. He
explained that this is not a choice between a good thing and a bad thing. Jeff Carlisle believes that a cooperative solution
can be found. Light Squared does not want to cause problems with the GPS system; they know that it is important (and
they use GPS as well). Jeff Carlisle gave some background on Light Squared and it is the leading developer of satellite
communications. Light Squared is the first wholesale only wireless 4G-LTE network and the only network to feature
seamless satellite/terrestrial access for voice and data. They have made a $14 billion investment over the last eight years.
Jeff Carlisle provided a diagram of what their future network will look like. He explained in further detail the issue of the
spectrum allocation and their location on the frequency band next to the Global Navigation Satellite Systems (GNSS) GPS
band. Jeff Carlisle explained how some of the GPS receivers “look over” into the Light Squared bands. The Light
Squared bands don’t block the GPS bands, but rather the GPS units move into the LighSqaured frequencies. Jeff Carlisle
explained the work of the technical working group that is doing testing and will have its work done in July. This isn’t a new
issue; it’s been in the works for years.
How do you mitigate the situation? In the short term, make spectrum transmission limitations, since interference occurs
when GPS system is overloaded and looks outside its frequencies and moves into the Light Squared adjacent band. Short
term mitigation measures may focus on the feasibility of changes to Light Squared’s spectrum deployment.
Richard Taylor asked some questions about frequency use, moving use on the spectrum, and filters within the spectrum.
Paul Mallet asked if tower density would affect the build-out. Jeff Carlisle explained that some adjustments could be
made to give them three to four more years of use without interference. Eddie Goldsmith asked if different modulations
had been looked at, and Jeff Carlisle explained that they had been looked at. Bob Oenning expressed concerns about
tests being done in rural areas and what would happen once the system is moved out into urban areas. Jeff Carlisle
explained that there has been a lot of development in filters for cellular devices.
Jeff Carlisle further explained the channel distribution of their system within spectrum allocation and solutions that they
are looking at. David Lucas asked Jeff Carlisle why this is a Light Squared issue if it’s a receiver “looking over” into their
spectrum. Jeff discussed how the regulation of transmission and receiver sides of the system work and the fact that the
U.S. currently doesn’t regulate receiver sites. Light Squared doesn’t want to throw its hands up and not address the issue;
they want to work cooperatively to resolve it.
Other questions were asked about Light Squared industry relationships and if Light Squared is going to be co-locating on
Break for lunch and resume
Light Squared issue resumed – Richard Taylor asked the group what they think about the Light Squared issue. Bill Range
suggested that NASNA send a letter to the FCC asking them to take a closer look at the issue. The group discussed
options of what position(s) NASNA could take. Much of the discussion focused on further testing. Bill Range also believes
that the power that they are broadcasting at could affect the level of interference. Bruce Chaney knows that there is some
concern over it in his state and the fact that so many U.S. Senators have been supportive of the issue speaks loudly to the
issue. Who would NASNA like to reach out to get more information and collaboration with? Suggestions included NENA,
the IACP, Sheriff’s Association, APCO, and the Public Safety Alliance. Bill Range will be on a panel at the NENA
conference on Wednesday to discuss the issue further with the broader membership of NENA. Thera Bradshaw made the
NASNA has come together as a group and has grave concerns about the Light Squared GPS interference issues with
GPS use and believes that further testing that includes rural and urban settings should be conducted. Bill Range is tasked
with gathering additional information and reaching out to other public safety associations to share our concerns. The
president of NASNA will then draft a letter to send the FCC on behalf of the membership.
Thera Bradshaw moved, seconded by Mike Webb. All Ayes.
Paul Fahey – 9IA Update:
George Rice is going to be the new executive director of the 9IA starting July 1. George Rice will attend the Fall NASNA
meeting. The advancement of public safety is the goal of the 9-1-1 and they want to take the high road. One of their top
priorities will be funding; they would like to see more collaborative work to have forums for issues. There will be a 9-1-1
Overload Forum in October. The board will work to have consistency in its leadership and liaisons with organizations.
George Rice will be at NENA this week and at APCO in August. Richard Taylor expressed his gratitude on behalf of the
membership for the group dinner.
Paul Fahey invited the group to stop by the Cassidian booth to discuss the patent issue involving Cassidian.
Laurie Flaherty from 9-1-1 Resource Center:
Laurie Flaherty asked if the presentation from the Resource Center was helpful, and how the data is going. Some
members experienced the lack of data to enter; some local entities are reluctant to give information to the states.
National 9-1-1 Office – Reauthorization of the 9-1-1 Office is likely to occur this summer and they are continuing to work
under an existing appropriation. The deadline on the ENHANCE 911 grant program is not likely to be extended. There
was discussion about the concerns that some of the members had at the state 9-1-1 system assessment and Laurie
Flaherty told the group they are welcome to submit comments and concerns.
Model state legislation: Richard Taylor is on the group to help develop model legislation. They may expect the National
Conference of State Legislators’ (NCSL) contract to track 9-1-1 legislation across the country. The NCSL has been
involved in the process from the beginning.
They are working on developing a document that has an end-to-end list of technical requirements for NG9-1-1. They will
work with Booz-Allen to create the list, using the proof of concept and a gap analysis.
FCC National Broadband Plan (NBP) – NHTSA was tasked with creating recommendations and budget figures for
nationwide NG9-1-1. They do not have the resources for that and have contacted Booz-Allen to give them a cost
estimate and how much it will cost them to put together a cost study. They do not have the staff or funds to do the study
9-1-1 Education Awareness Month – They contracted to create a logo, one message and a website (www.know911.org).
They would like to do something to bring more people together for next years’ April 9-1-1 education awareness month.
USDOT project came in on time and under budget, so they went to the first responders to identify data that they could use
as we prepare to move to NG9-1-1. There are four white papers in the works right now.
The 9-1-1 Office is also involved in the interagency collaboration/agency advisory group to work on issues of emergency
medical response 9-1-1.
Senator Klobachar’s S. 911 re-authorizes the National 9-1-1 Office. There is a lot support for public safety, technology,
and communications in the current administration. Laurie Flaherty believes that 9-1-1 and public safety are going to get a
lot of attention and support in the next year. Bob Oenning believes that Homeland Security is taking a lot of priority in the
9-1-1, FCC, DHS, and NHTSA being engaged in the NBP.
Richard Taylor entertained a MOTION to support S. 9-1-1, Harriet Miller-Brown seconded. All Ayes.
Thera Bradshaw entertained a MOTION for NASNA to send a letter to support S 911, Harriet Miller-Brown seconded. All
Richard Taylor shared what they were doing in North Carolina and his recent experience with a vendor implementing a
text project in a limited scope when they don’t have a statewide capability. What are other states doing when a vendor
comes up with “solution” that doesn’t really help move systems forward? There was some discussion about how we could
work to help offset information that could be misleading. The group agreed that a position statement should be developed
that the member states can use when approaching texting 9-1-1, and reaching out the 9IA to work with NASNA to
promote public education and a rounded approach to texting 9-1-1.
Mark Grady gave a brief background on INdigital. He gave a synopsis of text history, use, and 9-1-1 solutions. He
provided data and other information on NSI phones. Mark Grady will post his PowerPoint on the web site.
There was some brief discussion on what states are collecting prepaid surcharge and what different experiences have
been in enacting legislation at various states. Richard Taylor was wondering what NASNA could do to assist states that
don’t have prepaid. Joe Barrows in Kentucky shared the process of the study that his state is going through. There was
agreement that there seems to be a lack of data-based information on prepaid subscribers’ use, ARPU, or how often they
load minutes onto their phones. The group discussed developing a position paper or even a contracted study on the data.
There will be further discussion on the subject at the November meeting.
Barry Ritter MOTION to adjourn, Paul Mallett seconded. All Ayes. Meeting adjourned at 5 p.m.