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May 2010 doc.: IEEE 802.11-10/0683r0
IEEE P802.11
Wireless LANs
Minutes of the IEEE P802.11 Full Working Group
Date: 2010-05-17
Author(s):
Name Company Address Phone email
Stephen Research in Motion 200 Bath Road, Slough,
+44 1753 667099 smccann@rim.com
McCann (RIM) UK Ltd Berkshire, SL1 3XE, UK
Abstract
This document constitutes the minutes of the IEEE 802.11 full working group for the May
2010, Beijing, PRC.
Please note that all affiliations at this meeting are shown in Annex A.
Minutes page 1 Stephen McCann, RIM
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IEEE 802.11 Interim Meeting – Session #121
China World Hotel, Beijing, PRC
May 17th – 22nd, 2010
IEEE 802 Wireless Opening Plenary, Monday, 17th May 2010
11:32 802.11, 802.15, 802.18, 802.19, and 802.22 Chairs called the joint meeting to order.
General announcements:
Attendance will be collected via the IMAT
Social on Wednesday evening
Straw Poll of new attendees: 10
11:39 Financial report by Jon Rosdahl, (11-10-0554-00, 15-10-0267-00)
March 14, 2010 - $350,118.07
Wachovia: $288,812.07
Face-to-Face: $61,306
May 16, 2010 - $350,118.07
Wachovia: $288,812.07 + 207.35 (interest) = $289,019.42
Face-to-Face: $61,306
Reserves:
Meeting Expense Reserve - $350,335
Q: What are the attendance numbers?
205 staying at hotel, 7 who are not
57 Chinese nationals
11:43 IEEE patent policy
802.15 WG chair read the IEEE-SA instructions for the WG chair and displayed the four slides explaining patent
policy and informed the attendees that additional information could be found on the patcom web site.
Chair asked participants to identify patent claim(s)/patent application claim(s) and/or the holder of patent
claim(s)/patent application claim(s) that the participant believes may be essential for the use of that standard in
the appropriate WG.
802.15 WG chair read IEEE anti-trust policy
11:47 Wireless announcements: (15-10-0038-03)
Wireless Network Updates by Rick Alfvin
https://murphy.events.ieee.org/imat/login
Q: is the internet connection shared with the Hotel? R: No
11:50 Review Interim meetings
12-17 Sep 2010, Hilton Waikoloa Village, Big Island, HI, USA
16 – 21 January 16-21, 2011, Hyatt Century Plaza, Los Angeles, CA
8 – 13 May, 2011, Hyatt Grand Champion, Palm Springs, CA
11 – 16 September, 2011, Okinawa Convention Center, Okinawa, Japan (Pending)
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11:55 Task Group Updates
802.11 by B Kramer, Marvell (~250 voters)
Sponsor Ballot
11z
11u
11v
11p
TG LB
11mb (maintenance)
11s (mesh)
TG w/o draft
11aa (video transport)
11ae (QoS Mgmt Frm)
11af (TVWS)
11ac (VHT 5 GHz)
11ad (VHT 60 GHz)
Study Groups
FIA (fast initial authentication)
S1G (sub 1 GHZ)
Discussion Topics
Smart Grid
802.15 (223 voters, 35 nearly voters)
WNG: next generation
TG4e (MAC enhancements) comment resolution
TG4f (RFID applications) working on draft
TG4g (SUN applications): comment resolution
TG4h (corrigenda): comment resolutions
TG6 (BAN): working on draft
TG7 (VLC TG): comment resolution
SG-Personal Service Communication (PSC)
SG-Medical BAN (MBAN in 2.3 GHz range)
IG- Low Energy Critical Infrastructure Monitoring (LECIM)
802.18 Mike Lynch (20 voters)
Review FCC broadband plan
802.16 documents review
802.19 Steve Shellhammer (43 voters)
Held first Work Group in Jan 2010
TG1 is TVWS Coexistence
802.22 Apurva Mody (~40 voters)
working on letter ballot comment resolution
Smart Grid (802)
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PAP2 – NIST listing of potentially appropriate wireless technologies
IEEE 2030
12:19 Joint meeting adjourned
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IEEE 802.11 Opening Plenary, Monday 17th May 2010
Presiding chair: Bruce Kraemer (Marvell Semiconductor) opened the meeting at 13:36 China Standard
Time (CST)
Jon Rosdahl CSR
Adrian Stephens Intel Corporation UK Ltd
Stephen McCann Research in Motion (RIM) UK Ltd
There are 257 voting members of IEEE 802.11
There were 141 people in the room.
1. Approve/modify joint opening agenda (11-10-0462r2)
1.1. Please remember that there is no recording or pictures allowed.
1.2. Chair: There are changes to the agenda today to indicate the current plan. There is one timeslot
which is currently open on Tuesday evening, as WNG has relinquished one of it’s slots. Please
talk to our organisers (Arinix) if you require any help with room allocations.
1.3. Chair: Any modifications required at this moment?
1.4. No objection to the approval of the agenda
2. March 2010 Minutes (11-10-0325r0)
2.1. Review and approve joint minutes from the Orlando, March 2010 meeting.
2.2. Any objection to approving the March 2010 minutes 11-10-1358r0 by unanimous consent
2.3. Moved Stephen McCann, 2nd: Michael Montemurro
2.4. Following neither discussion nor dissent these minutes were approved by unanimous consent.
3. Attendance (11-10-0554r0)
3.1. Welcome to all the new partipants.
3.2. Thanks for the support for SIMIT for their generous sponsorhsip this week.
4. Treasurers report (11-10-0554r0)
4.1. Quick summary of document which was presented earlier in the 802 wireless opening plenary.
5. Call for essential Patents (11-10-0554r0)
5.1. The vice-chair read out the current PatCom rules and then called for essential patents
information.
5.2. None.
6. Policies and Procedures (11-10-1076r??)
6.1. http://standards.ieee.org/board/pat/pat-slideset.ppt
6.2. The vice-chair presented the P&Ps. This document contains all the information and links to the
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appropriate PatCom rules.
6.2.1. Please review these slides for all current procedures and information together with:
6.2.1.1. Patent FAQ - http://standards.ieee.org/board/pat/faq.pdf
6.2.1.2. LoA Form - http://standards.ieee.org/board/pat/loa.pdf
6.3. We are now working under the new 802 P&P rules, which were approved at the November 2009
meeting, although these are currently undergoing reviews.
6.4. Therefore IEEE 802.11 has a new Operations Manual document (OpsMan – 11-10-0002r1).
These are extra rules which are unique to IEEE 802.11. Following feedback comments in the
March 2010, the document is now ready for approval, which we would like to do at the closing
plenary this Friday.
6.5. So, please check this document and if you have any more comments please can you send them
to the chair and chair.
7. Announcements (11-10-0464r0)
7.1. LoA database
7.1.1. Chair: No updates since last meeting.
7.2. IEEE 802.18
7.2.1. They will meet this week, but their agenda has not been posted yet.
7.3. IEEE 802.19
7.3.1. There will be a joint meeting between 802.11af, 802.19 and 802.22 on TV Whitespace on
Tuesday evening.
7.4. IEEE 802.22
7.4.1. Please look at the slides for more information.
7.5. IEEE 802.23
7.5.1. They are not meeting with this week. Stephen McCann is the coordiantion officer, but
there is nothing to report at the moment.
7.6. China National Standards Bodies
7.6.1. On Tuesday afternoon, there will several presentations to 802.11 from various Chinese
National Standards Bodies.
7.7. IEEE 802.15.4g
7.7.1. On Tuesday afternoon, S1G (Sub 1 GHz) will meet with 15.4g to discuss co-existance
issues.
7.8. Officier Elections
7.8.1. Each TG needs to hold an election for chair this week.
7.8.2. These will then be ratified at the IEEE 802.11 mid-week basis on Wednesday.
7.9. Smart Grid
7.9.1. This group will meet a couple of times this week.
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7.10. ExCom
7.10.1. TGp will be cosnidered for conditional approval at the July meeting, so an agenda item
request for the ExCOM July meeting will be generated.
7.11. July Tutorials
7.11.1. Please let the chair know, if you have any topics of interest for the July plenary tutorials.
8. Voting status, attendance, meeting network & documentation (11-10-
0005r3)
8.1. ANA
8.2. If you a document which requires a number assinment, please send me a request. The most
recent requests have come from TGz, TGp and TG??
8.3. Network
8.4. Please be aware of the network restricitions this week. Please do not download from mentor.
8.5. New Members
8.6. 5
8.7. Attendance
8.8. Document describes how to do attendance, voting status, letter ballots.
8.8.1. 119 aspirants
8.8.2. 37 potentials
8.8.3. 257 voters
8.9. Please note the extra column in the attendance list which shows when your voting rights are due
to expire.
8.10. Also note that you have to reach 75% attendance this week, to gain a credit towards your
votiing token.
8.11. Chair: There was no network during lunch, as Verilan took the network down to try and
improve the flow through it. If the network is not availble, and you need to upload a document,
then please give a memory stick (pen drive) to Adrian Stephens and he can upload it to the
mentor server.
9. Status of all groups (11-10-0463r0)
9.1. Chairs
9.2. TGmb and TGp are missing chairs. Michael Montemurro as TGmb vice-chair will run the
meeting this week. TGp does not have any meetings this week, although the TGp chair, has
indicated that he wishes to stay on as chair.
9.3. Group Summaries
9.4. Chair: Presented the rest of the slides quickly for all the groups, including the results of various
letter and sponsor ballots.
9.5. No questions.
10. Any Other Business
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10.1. Chair: Please note the unusual schedule for the rest of this afternoon. Once we complete
this opening plenary, there are some Task Groups starting up immediately. Please can TG
chairs, then factor in a break about the normal time.
10.2. Chair: Additionally we have sessions on Wednesday evening, to compensate for today’s
ceremony. As there is also a social at the same time, please go to the social, eat and then move
off to your task group meetings.
11. Recess
11.1. Meeting recessed at 14:30 CST
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Wednesday, 19th May 2010
IEEE 802.11 Mid Week Plenary
Presiding chair: Bruce Kraemer (Marvell) opened the meeting at 10:30 CST
120 people present.
12. Approve/modify joint opening agenda (11-10-0462r3)
12.1. There are some changes require to the agenda.
12.2. Comment: I can see a typo, can you change “S1A” to “S1G”.
12.3. Chair: Ok, I will post an update after the meeting
12.4. Any objection to accepting the changes (typos and motions) to the agenda?
12.5. No objection, so moved and approved.
13. Call for Essential Patents
13.1. Call for essential patents
13.2. No items arose.
14. CAC
14.1. Reminder about 19.30 CST meeting on Thursday
15. Other Announcements
15.1. There will be a social tonight in this hotel this evening, starting shortly after 18:00 CST.
15.2. Please be aware that 802.11 does have sessions tonight starting at 19:30 CST.
16. Liaisons
16.1. IEEE 802.18 : Radio Regulatory Tag (11-10-0638r0)
16.1.1. Reviewed various inputs to different groups.
16.1.2. ERM TG11 status
16.1.3. Also new issue ERM TG28, which now includes some people from TG11.
16.1.4. No questions
16.2. IEEE 802.19 : Co-existence Working Group (11-10-0636r0)
16.2.1. 802.19.1 (TVWS Co-existance) task group (TG) was created in March 2010
16.2.2. Q: Does anyone want to talk about the joint meeting last night (802.19, 802.22, 802.11af)
16.2.3. Chair: It was basically just an information exchange
16.2.4. Q: Will there be a 802.19.1 tutorial?
16.2.5. A: Yes, on Monday 12th July 2010 during the IEEE 802 plenary
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16.3. Wi-Fi Alliance (WFA)
16.3.1. 2010 is becoming a very good year, with the number of members and certifications
increasing. In the 4th months of 2010, the group is 60% up on last year in terms of
certifications.
16.3.2. MMAC (11e)
16.3.2.1. Voice Enterprise (11e, 11r, 11k)
16.3.2.2. Wi-Fi protected management frames (11w)
16.3.2.3. TDLS (11z)
16.3.2.4. WiFi Direct, which is becoming a big project
16.3.3. Looking at new areas: display, 60GHz, display
16.3.4. The WiGig Alliance and WFA recently signed an agreement, which is available on the
WFA site for more details.
16.3.5. Also looking at enterprise, operators, healthcare groups.
16.3.6. Next face to face meeting is in June 2010 in San Diego.
16.3.7. Q: Do you have any members from China
16.3.8. A: Yes, indeed just this year, the numbers of Chinese members have been increasing. The
last face to face meeting this year will be held in Hong Kong.
16.4. IETF (verbal update to 11-10-0375r0)
16.4.1. CAPWAP: This group has now completed it’s work and has now closed.
16.4.2. EMU: Two EAP (EAP-EKE ?& another), commment are currently appreciated.
16.4.3. GEOPRIV: Following the liaison from IEEE 802.11, the work is still ongoing.
16.4.4. Next meeting is in Maastricht in the Netherlands in July 2010.
16.4.5. No questions
16.5. 3GPP
16.5.1. No update at this point in time
16.6. Bluetooth SIG (11-10-0569r0)
16.6.1. Use of IEEE 802.11n will be added to Bluetooth 3.0 and 4.0 during Q3 2010.
16.6.2. Demonstration of bluetooth operated peer to peer connection using IEEE 802.11 (see
slide #6). Please talk to John Barr after the meeting and he will show this system working.
16.6.3. Chair: Thank you to John for bringing this demonstration in. The bluetooth profile for
this operation is just software on the smartphone, so it should work on different
smartphones from different vendors.
16.6.4. A: Yes, I can verify this.
16.6.5. C: I understand that some of the features of TGad may also be very useful for Bluetooth
in the future.
16.6.6. Q: Is this document on the server?
16.6.7. A: We’ll just check this.
17. Task Group & Study Group officer Elections (11-10-0463r1)
17.1. The document shows the results of all the TG & SG elections.
17.2. C: There’s a mis-spelling of the TGz chair’s & secretary’s name.
17.3. Chair: ok
17.4. C: For TGv, there is no secretary and we could certainly do with one.
17.5. C: For TGaf, Peter Ecclesine is also the technical editor.
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17.6. Chair: I would like to recognise the updated slide (11-10-0463r2) as the officer role for
the next two years.
17.7. Chair:Any objection to accepting this slide by unanimous consent.
18. Room requests (11-10-0464r1)
18.1. Chair: There are several room changes at this time for the rest of the week, which I will
change on the slide.
18.2. Chair: Both TGu and FIA SG want 1 slot on Thursday. The TGu chair will yield this slot
and allow FIA to meet at 08:00 CST.
19. Drafts in the IEEE Store (11-10-0464r1)
19.1. TGmb chair: I’d like TGmb to actually discuss this first and come back with an answer
on Friday.
19.2. Chair: ok.
19.3. Please can the other groups request updates as follows:
19.4. S: 5.0
19.5. U : 9.0
19.6. V: 10.0
19.7. Z: 8.0
20. Information Exchange (11-10-0464r1)
20.1. Presentations from Saturday are now available on the IEEE 802 reflector.
20.2. Also slides and minutes will be available from yesterday’s meeting with the Chinese
Standard’s Bodies.
21. PAR & 5C reviews
21.1. Both the FIA (11-10-583r2) and S1G (11-10-001r6) chairs want to inform everyone that
their PARs will be ready for approval on Friday and wish members to review them.
21.2. Chair: We’re doing this, so that we can add agenda items for the July 2010 ExCom
meeting.
22. IEEE MeshTech ’10 Conference
22.1. <http://www2.ing.unipi.it/meshtech10>
22.2. This meeting is occuring in November 2010 and unfortunately clashes with the
November IEEE 802.11 meeting.
22.3. This meeting not only covers Mesh technology, but also SmartGrid and ad-hoc
technologies.
22.4. No questions
23. Avoiding unecessary delays in the 802.11 WG letter ballot process
(11-10-531r0)
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23.1. Vice-chair: This presentation discusses a possible improvement in the WG letter ballot
process.
23.2. No questions
23.3. Straw Poll: Do you support in principle the process shown on slide 8, and agree that
the 802.11 OM should be updated to reflect this process?
23.4. Yes: 52, No: 0, Abstain: 8
24. Any Other Business
24.1. Chair: Please go and see the Bluetooth demonstration
24.2. Meeting recessed at 11:44 CST
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Friday, 21st May 2010
IEEE 802.11 Closing Plenary
Call to order at 08:00 CST by Bruce Kraemer (Marvell Semiconductor).
63 people present in the room.
25. Agenda (11-10-0462r4)
25.1. Chair: There have been some changes due to the addition of motions etc.
25.2. Any objection to adopting the changes to the agenda.
25.3. None seen
26. Call for Essential Patents
26.1. Call for Essential Patents and Letters of Assurance (LoA)
26.2. No questions on this
27. Announcements
27.1. Chair’s minutes, reports and web pages
27.1.1. Please can you send these to the secretary
27.1.2. Also please note that agendas for the July 2010 (San Diego) meeting will be due soon.
27.1.3. Please be aware of the Chair’s schedule for the chair’s committee meetings
27.2. China National Standards Bodies
27.2.1. These presentations are now available on the the IEEE 802 mentor server and the minutes
on the IEEE 802.11 mentor server.
27.2.2. I also have more copies of brochures form the Wednesday meeting, if you require any
more copies. Please come and pick them up from the front of the room.
27.3. Letters of Assurance (LoA)
27.3.1. None received this week.
27.4. IEEE Shop (11-10-0464r3)
27.4.1. Chair: Can I ask what the statis of the TGmb draft is please.
27.4.2. 11mb vice-chair: 11mb decided that 11mb draft 3.0 should go to the shop.
27.4.3. Chair: Action: I will ensure to try and sort this out shortly.
27.5. Tutorials in July 2010
27.5.1. Chair: The 802.19.1 TVWS group is interested in preparing a tutorial. Within IEEE
802.11 the contact is the 11af chair.
28. Meeting Location
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28.1. Chair: Can I have a show of hand to see who is in favor of returning to this location
again?
28.2. For: 44, Against: 1
28.3. Chair: I’d also like to thank SIMIT for all their arrangements and Airinex for the
logisitics.
29. Documentation & Attendance
29.1. Vice-chair: No issues this week for the attendance system. However, we did have issues
with the external bandwidth for the documentation. Thanks for everyone who helped out with
the mentor server. It seems to be ok at the moment.
29.2. No questions
30. WG Reports
30.1. Chair: Before the secretary starts with his reports, I would like to ask for a volunteer
for the positions of publicity and timeline keeper.
30.2. Publicity
30.2.1. Secretary: Nothing
30.2.2. No questions.
30.3. Timelines
30.3.1. Secretary: Several changes this week, already received information from TGaf
30.3.2. Chair: There are some others on the way, TGaa, TGmb, TGae.
30.3.3. Timeline chart will be done over the weekend
30.3.4. No questions
31. WG Committee Reports (11-10-0542r1)
31.1. Technical editor (slide #3)
31.1.1. Not a lot of changes this week.
31.1.2. Vice-chair: There is an update due from 11ad.
31.1.3. The running order is as shown on the screen and we also discussed the fact that the TGs
draft will go to the IEEE professional editors before startiong sponsor ballot. This is a new
process and is a useful trial.
31.1.4. No questions
31.2. ANA (11-09-0031r10)
31.2.1. The database has been updated with numbers for TGz, TGmb, TGp
31.3. WNG SC (slide #10)
31.3.1. Two presentations this week.
31.3.2. No questions
31.4. TGmb (slide #12)
31.4.1. TGmb chair: No picture just yet.
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31.4.2. No intpretation requests this week.
31.4.3. Elected new officiers, Dorothy is the new chair.
31.4.4. Completed LB162 resolution.
31.4.5. No questions
31.5. TGs (slide #19)
31.5.1. Resolved comments for LB161.
31.5.2. No questions
31.6. TGu (slide #23)
31.6.1. Completed the resolution of the 1st re-circulation sponsor ballot comments. Next re-
circulation sponsor ballot possibly in mid June 2010.
31.6.2. No questions
31.7. TGv (slide #26)
31.7.1. Finished sponsor ballot comment resolution and voted to go out to re-circulation sponsor
ballot as soon as possible (possibly early June 2010)
31.7.2. No questions
31.8. TGz (slide #34)
31.8.1. Also resolved all comments.
31.8.2. Will start re-circulation sponsor ballot shortly.
31.8.3. Q: What’s your currentl approval level?
31.8.4. A: Currently at 94% aproval rate
31.9. TGaa (slide #36)
31.9.1. Elected new officiers
31.9.2. Just 1 telco before the July 2010 meeting.
31.9.3. Joint meeting with 802.1.AVB at the July 2010 plenary.
31.9.4. No questions
31.10. TGac (slide #43)
31.10.1. Had many ad-hoc meetings this week.
31.10.2. Accepted various documents this week.
31.10.3. No questions
31.11. TGad (slide #49)
31.11.1. Lots of persentations this week.
31.11.2. 20 new technique proposals.
31.11.3. Many compromises this week, so we now have a TGad draft 0.1 that we have an
internal TGad discussion on. This will be posted by June 4th 2010. We’ve also decided that
all voters, aspirants and potential voters can take part in this.
31.11.4. Q: You mentioned about the aspirants etc, so you may need to change the forms
and not call it a ballot. Also how do you get the draft to non-voters?
31.11.5. A: Yes, sure. It needs to be resolved.
31.11.6. Vice-chair: We’ll sort it out.
31.11.7. Then we hope to go out to LB in September.
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31.11.8. Q: Can we have a spreadsheet that actually sorts correctly for these internal
technical reviews.
31.11.9. A: Sure, I’ll ask the TGad tool to talk to Adrian about his TGn database tool.
31.11.10. Chair: and also TGaf.
31.12. TGae (slide #63)
31.12.1. After some discsussions, decided to producde draft d0.01.
31.12.2. Hopefully will find an editor for the July meeting and start an internal review of
d0.01.
31.12.3. No questions
31.13. TGaf (slide #68)
31.13.1. Joint session with 802.19 and 802.22 on Tuesday.
31.13.2. 150 comments came back from the internal technical review.
31.13.3. Approved draft 0.02.
31.13.4. Decided to finish after 11mb, so we’re now using REVmb draft 4.0 as a baseline,
as opposed to 802.11-2007
31.13.5. No questions
31.14. FIA SG (slide #75)
31.14.1. Elected officiers of this new study group.
31.14.2. Had a joint meeting with TGu during the week.
31.14.3. Finished a PAR and 5C document (11-10-0583r5)
31.14.4. Q: Is it appropriate to report on material that was discussed on an unannounced
ad-hoc meeting.
31.14.5. Chair: Yes, I agree with this remark. Please can the FIA SG chair amend the
closing report to remove this extra ad hoc summary.
31.14.6. C: The meeting was announced on the IEEE 802.11 working group reflector.
31.14.7. C: Y|es, but the email did not announce the discussion of a PAR and 5C.
31.15. S1G SG (slide #81)
31.15.1. Approved PAR and 5C in documennt 11-10-0001r8.
31.15.2. Chair: Did you have discussions with 802.15.4g?
31.15.3. A: Yes. It appears that 802.15.4g treats their PARs as guidelines, so they were not
too concerned. We did add some text to the “distinct identity” section based on this
discussion.
31.15.4. Q: I think some of these comments about 802.15 PARs is mis-representation.
They do take it seriously, as we do in 802.11
31.16. Regulatory Ad Hoc (slide #86)
31.16.1. Various doiscussions about ERM TG11 and ERM TG28.
31.16.2. Talked about COMCAST and FCC ruling.
31.16.3. No questions
31.17. Smart Grid Ad Hoc (slide #92)
31.17.1. Various discussion of NIST PAP#2 reports and trying to resolve mis-
understandings of terms and termnology.
31.17.2. There is a lot of work on many use cases, as shown in the spreadsheet.
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31.17.3. No questions
31.18. JTC 1 Ad Hoc (slide #104)
31.18.1. Fairly quite this week, as there was not a lot of work.
31.18.2. Instead there was a joint meeting on Tuesday with the Chainese Stanadrd;s body.
This ws not a JTC 1 meeting, but an IEEE 802 inforamtion exchnage meetig and I thank the
organisers for this.
31.18.3. There is a letter which will be reviewed later today regarding a liaison to ISO/IEC
JTC1/SC6.
31.18.4. We had also forgotten to tell them how to access some of our drafts.
31.18.5. Q: The latest u, v, p and z drafts have not been sent to JTC 1? When we did we
decide to do this?
31.18.6. A: We agreed to send SC 6 our sponsor ballot drafts in a previous liaison.
31.18.7. Q: But the review cycles are completely different?
31.18.8. A: Yes, so we’ll try and resolve any of their comments in good faith. If comments
arrive once the standard is ratified, then we’ll try and review them in our maintenance
process.
31.18.9. Chair: And I own the process of doing this. The liaison came out of the January
2010 meeting. This liaison suggests a modified procedure, as we don’t want to send SC 6
all of our drafts.
31.18.10. We don’t actually expect too many comments from the SC6 national body
representatives.
32. Liaison Reports
32.1. IEEE 802.15 (11-10-0681r0)
32.1.1. Various different projects going on at the moment, with many ballots going on.
32.1.2. Q: In the 802 P&Ps, there are supposed to be co-existance documents when task groups
start letter ballot. This is regarding 802.15.4g.
32.1.3. A: I believe that the 802.15.4g chair will produce one shortly.
32.1.4. Chair: Can you please assist in this matter?
33. Coffee Break
33.1. Chair: Is there any objection to continuing at this point and not taking a break? We are
currently 40 minutes ahead of time.
33.2. No objections.
34. Working Group Motions (Old Business) (11-10-0543r0)
34.1. Teleconferences (slide #4)
34.1.1. Move to approve the following teleconferences
Group Dates Start Time Duration
FIA Wednesdays Starting June 2 Alternative 1 Hour
(11:00am) 11:00am,11:00pm
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TGmb Fri June 18; July 9 10:00 ET 2 Hours
TGp <none scheduled> 15:00 ET 2 Hours
TGs Thu June 3, 10, 17; July 1, 8 10:00 ET 1.5 Hours
TGu Wed Jun 30, July 7, July 21, July 28 11:00 ET 2 Hours
TGv June 10, 15, 17, 29; July 1 14:00 ET 2 Hours
TGz June 3, 10, 17, 24; July 1, 8 14:00 ET 2 Hours
TGaa Mon June 21 11:00 ET 1.5 Hours
TGac Thu June 24 (PHY) 10:00 - 11:00 ET 1 Hour
Thu June 17 (MAC) 10:00 - 11:00 ET 1 Hour
Wed June 30 (MAC) 21:00 - 22:00 ET 1 Hour
Thu June 17 (MU-MIMO) 20:00 - 21:00 ET 1 Hour
Thu June 24 (Coex) 20:00 - 21:00 ET 1 Hour
TGad Thu July 1 10:00 ET 2 Hours
Thu July 8 20:00 ET
Thu July 22 10:00 ET
Thu July 29 20:00 ET
Thu Aug 5 10:00 ET
TGae Thu June 3; July 8 11:00 ET 1.5 Hours
TGaf Tue June 8, June 22 and July 6 22:00 ET 1.5 Hours
Regulatory Thu June 17 12:00 ET (noon) 1 Hour
AHC
Smart Grid Wed starting June 2 14:00 ET 1 Hour
34.1.2. Moved Adrian Stephens, 2nd Richard Kennedy
34.1.3. No objection to approving by unanimous consent.
34.2. Operations Manual (slide #6)
34.2.1. Move to approve document 11-09/0002r2 as the WG11 Operations Manual.
34.2.2. Moved: Jon Rosdahl, 2nd : Adrian Stephens
34.2.3. For: 35, Against: 0, Abstain: 1 (Motion passes 100%)
34.3. Operations Manual explanation
34.3.1. Vice-chair: In November 802 approved a P&P document, which all WG are obliged to
follow. This is the parent document. The OM manual is an additional document for 802.11.
this has been done so that all groups align with IEEE-SA requirements and are easier to
audit. The IEEE 802 Exec agreed to produce a single 802 level P&P and then each WG has
it’s oewn OM which is subject to review by the IEEE 802 Exec.
34.3.2. Chair; And what is currently in force.
34.3.3. Vice-chair: It’s rather difficult to check. The web site needs to be sorted out in this
respect. The November 2009 version is correct, as pointed to in the 802.11 OM.
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34.3.4. Chair: Please can you ensure that we have a page in our 802.11 OM which correctly
points to the IEEE 802 P&P.
34.3.5. Vice-chair: yes.
34.4. TGmb motion 92 (slide #8)
34.4.1. Having approved comment resolutions for all of the comments received from the
working group ballot on P802.11REVmb D3.0,
34.4.2. Instruct the editor to prepare Draft 4.0 incorporating these resolutions and,
34.4.3. Approve a 15 day Working Group Recirculation Ballot asking the question “Should
P802.11REVmb D4.0 be forwarded to Sponsor Ballot?”
34.4.4. Moved: Michael Montemurro (on behalf of TGmb)
34.4.5. 2nd: Jon Rosdahl
34.4.6. In the Task Group By: Adrian Stephens Second: Jon Rosdahl, Result: 5 – yes; 0 – no; 0 –
abstain.
34.4.7. For: 36, Against: 0, Abstain: 0 (Motion passes 100%)
34.5. TGs motion 92 (slide #8)
34.5.1. Having approved comment resolutions for all of the comments received from
LB#161 on P802.11s Draft 5.0 as contained in document 11-10/478r0,
34.5.2. Instruct the editor to prepare Draft 6.0 incorporating these resolutions and,
34.5.3. Approve a 15 day Working Group Recirculation Ballot asking the question “Should
P802.11s Draft 6.0 be forwarded to Sponsor Ballot?”
34.5.4. Moved by Dee Denteneer on behalf of TGs
34.5.5. Second: Guido Hiertz
34.5.6. TGs vote: Moved: Dan Harkins Seconded: Rene Purnadi Result: y: 10-n:0-a:0
34.5.7. For: 36, Against: 0, Abstain: 0 (Motion passes 100%)
34.6. TGu PAR extension (slide #12)
34.6.1. Move to approve the TGu PAR extension in 11-10-0607-02-000u-par-extension.doc,
extending the TGu PAR for an additional 1 year, and forward the PAR Extension
Request to NESCOM.
34.6.2. Moved on behalf of TGu by Stephen McCann
34.6.3. Seconded: Rich Kennedy
34.6.4. In TGu: Moved: George Bumiller, 2nd: Dave Stephenson Result: 3/0/0
34.6.5. For: 38, Against: 0, Abstain: 0 (Motion passes 100%)
34.7. TGv PAR extension (slide #12)
34.7.1. Move to approve the TGv PAR extension in 11-10-0592-01-000v-par-extension.doc,
extending the TGv PAR for an additional 1 year, and forward the PAR Extension
Request to NESCOM.
34.7.2. Moved On Behalf of TGv by Stephen McCann
34.7.3. Seconded: Clint Chaplin
34.7.4. TG Result: Mover: Allan Thomson Seconder: Qi Wang Result: 3-0-0 Passes
34.7.5. For: 38, Against: 0, Abstain: 0 (Motion passes 100%)
34.8. TGaa (slide #17)
34.8.1. Having approved changes to TGaa Draft 0.05, as defined in 11-10/0055r5 and
10/0484r3, and 10/0482r4
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34.8.2. Instruct the editor to prepare TGaa Draft 1.0, and
34.8.3. Approve a 30 day Working Group Technical Letter Ballot asking the question
“Should TGaa Draft 1.0 be forwarded to Sponsor Ballot?”
34.8.4. Moved by Alex Ashley
34.8.5. Seconded: Jon Rosdahl
34.8.6. TGaa vote (on ballot approval motion): Moved: Alex Ashley, Seconded: Hang Liu,
Result: 2-0-0
34.8.7. Q: I see that the vote is rather low, can the chair comment on this.
34.8.8. Chair: We have discussed this. Should we consider the number of people in the room
who vote on these types of document. This is a very small group, but it is bringing it’s
output to the WG.
34.8.9. Vice-chair: There were 8 people in the room, but only 4 voting members, not all of who
voted. Therefore I think the representation was ok.
34.8.10. C: I’m not picking on TGaa, my comment applies to other groups.
34.8.11. For: 36, Against: 0, Abstain: 0 (Motion passes 100%)
34.9. S1G SG (slide #19)
34.9.1. Believing that the PAR and Five Criteria contained in the document referenced
below meets IEEE-SA guidelines, request that the PAR and Five Criteria contained in
10/0001r8 be posted to the IEEE 802 Executive Committee (EC) agenda for 802
working groups preview and EC approval to submit to NesCom.
34.9.2. Moved by Dave Halasz on behalf of S1G SG
34.9.3. Seconded: Rich Kennedy
34.9.4. In the SG: Moved: Dorothy Stanley , Seconded: Garth Hillman Result: 9-0-1
34.9.5. For: 37, Against: 0, Abstain: 1 (Motion passes 100%)
35. Working Group Motions (New Business) (11-10-0543r0)
35.1. TGs (slide #21)
35.1.1. Move to approve the TGs PAR extension in 11-10/0597r1, extending the TGs PAR
for an additional 1 year, and forward the PAR Extension Request to NESCOM.
35.1.2. Moved: Dee Denteneer
35.1.3. Seconded: Dave Halasz
35.1.4. Q: Shouldn’t this be forwarded to EC first.
35.1.5. Chair: Yes, it will go through the EC first.
35.1.6. For: 36, Against: 0, Abstain: 2 (Motion passes 100%)
35.2. JTC 1 (slide #23)
35.2.1. The IEEE 802.11 WG approves that the letter contained in 11-10/0677r0 be liaised
to ISO/IEC JTC1/SC6. This letter provides a response to the comments made by the
China National Body in ISO/IEC JTC1/SC6 N 14123, which is embedded in 11-
10/0524. The IEEE 802.11 WG Chair is authorized to make any necessary editorial
changes.
35.2.2. Moved by Andrew Myles, 2nd: Peter Ecclesine
35.2.3. There were some comments from the Chinese National Bodies, which this letter answers,
regarding deadlines and exchange of documentation. We hope that by the time we submit
IEEE 802.11-2011, these issues will have been resolved. There is also an issue about IEEE
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802 copyright. We’re also allowing the WG chair to ask the SC6 chair to review the
document first, so he may have to make some changes.
35.2.4. For: 32, Against: 0, Abstain: 3 (Motion passes 100%)
35.3. FIA PAR & 5C (slide #25)
35.3.1. Believing that the PAR and Five Criteria contained in the document referenced
below meets IEEE-SA guidelines, request that the PAR and Five Criteria contained in
10/0583r5 be posted to the IEEE 802 Executive Committee (EC) agenda for 802
working groups preview and EC approval to submit to NesCom.
35.3.2. Moved by Marc Emmelmann, 2nd: Hiroshi Mann
35.3.3. Chair: I would like to limit debate on this topic to 20 minutes, then we proceed to a
motion, or another conclusion. Is there any objection to this limit.
35.3.4. C: On Thursday morning, we had a stable version 583r4 in a normal meeting. However,
as subsequent updates were still required, we did not approve the PAR and 5C documents.
Since meetings slots were then available on Thursday afternoon, we asked for an ad hoc
meeting which was announced on the mailing list. During this ad hoc, no new technical
issues were discussed, but the PAR & 5C was updated. I am now bringing this motion to
the whole working group for their consideration. Paul Lambert was present in this ad hoc
meeting, as an IEEE 802.11 security expert, and he believed that the objective of the group
is reasonable. We do realise that there are many concerns within the IEEE 802.11 about
security and so we added a single sentence which states that the FIA solution, will not
composmise the exisiting IEEE 802.11 securty solution. If this motion does not pass today,
then we will have to wait until November 2010 to move forward. A straw poll in the ad hoc
showed that this motion should be moved today.
35.3.5. C: I speak against this motion. I think the FIA SG is good to continue discussing their
purpose and scope. However, I’m concerned about the process of how this PAR & 5C has
been produced yesterday evening. I think this motion is inappropriate and discussion should
continue within the FIA SG. From a technical point of view, even if they solve the IEEE
802.11 problem, I don’t think it addresses the whole issue of fast authentication. In
addition, we do not want to see “Holes in IEEE 802.11 security” headlines and I’m very
concerned about this. In addition here are some problems with the PAR, it looks as though
FIA relies on EAP and therefore is closely related to the IETF. Regarding IEEE 802.1X,
this is related to IEEE 802.1.
35.3.6. C: I speak against this motion . I’m very concerned that no security experts have been
able to talk about it. I would like a discussion at the IEEE 802.11 mid week plenary in July
2010.
35.3.7. C: I speak against this motion. I thought that the group agreed that not eough data was
currently available to evaluate the possible improvement in the system, provided by FIA
SG.
35.3.8. C: I speak for this motion. Regarding the security, this has been condisered in WNG SC.
I would like the task group to discuss the security issues there.
35.3.9. C: I speak for this motion. I think good work has been done. I think it tries to optimise the
authentication process which is a great thing. I regard myself as a security expert and I
think the project is valid and should proceed. We do need to be careful, but we do need the
freedom to re-consider IEEE 802.11 security techniques. I think the benefit of removing
round trip messages, during initial authentication, has great potential and should be
considered.
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35.3.10. C: There may be some work done in the IETF, but I think it is an IEEE 802.11
issue. Security should be considered by IEEE 802.11. Also during the meeting, I noted that
the no voters had the same affiliaition.
35.3.11. Chair: That is irrelevant.
35.3.12. For: 23, Against: 10, Abstain: 3 (Motion fails 69.7%)
36. Other New Business
36.1. TGmb vice-chair: I have now found a picture for the TGmb closing report (11-10-
0659r2)
37. Next Meeting
37.1. The next meeting (#122) is in the Manchester Grand Hyatt, San Diego, California, USA
from July 11th – 16th 2010: http://ieee802.facetoface-events.com/session/64
37.2. Please note that the early bird registration ends today.
37.3. Q: The registration for the hotel finishes today, but the meeting reigration early bird cut-
off is in two weeks time.
37.4. Chair: Yes, you are correct. Sorry about that.
38. Adjournment
38.1. Chair: I propose to adjourn
38.2. The meeting is adjourned without objection at 10:30 CST.
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Annex A: Attendance & Affiliation
Name Affiliation
Aboulmagd, Osama Samsung Electronics
Aiello, Roberto Independent
Ariyavisitakul, Sirikiat Broadcom Corporation
Asai, Yusuke NTT
Ashley, Alex NDS Limited
Astrin, Arthur Astrin Radio
Au, Kwok Huawei Technologies Co., Ltd.
Auluck, Vijay Intel Corporation
Bahr, Michael Siemens AG
Bajko, Gabor Nokia
Ban, Koichiro Toshiba Corporation
Banerjea, Raja Marvell Semiconductor
Barr, John JRBarr, Ltd. & NiCT
Basson, Gal Wilocity
Baykas, Tuncer National Institute of Information and Communications Technology (NICT)
Bhatt, Anirudh Samsung Electronics
Booth, Ted Sony Corporation of America
Boucachard, Philippe Canon Research Centre France
Buffington, John Itron, Inc.
Bumiller, G Research In Motion Limited
Cariou, Laurent Orange Labs
CHAMBELIN, Philippe Technicolor
Chang, Kapseok Electronics and Telecommunications Research Instititute (ETRI)
Chaplin, Clint Samsung Electronics
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Name Affiliation
CHEN, Xi State Gid Corporation of China
Cheong, Minho Electronics and Telecommunications Research Instititute (ETRI)
Chia, Meng Institute for Infocomm Research
Chia, Yong WG802.11
Chin, Francois A STAR
Choi, Chang-Soon IHP GmbH
Choi, In-Kyeong Electronics and Telecommunications Research Instititute (ETRI)
Choi, Jee-Yon Electronics and Telecommunications Research Instititute (ETRI)
CHRISTIN, Philippe Orange-France Telecom
Chu, Liwen STMicroelectronics
Cordeiro, Carlos Intel Corporation
de Vegt, Rolf Qualcomm Incorporated
Demessie, Yohannes National Institute of Information and Communications Technology (NICT)
Denteneer, Theodorus Philips
Derham, Thomas Orange-France Telecom
Dorsey, John Apple, Inc.
Duan, Chunjie Mitsubishi Electric Corporation
Durand, Roger Research In Motion Limited
Ecclesine, Peter Cisco Systems, Inc.
Emmelmann, Marc TU Berlin
Erceg, Vinko Broadcom Corporation
Filin, Stanislav National Institute of Information and Communications Technology (NICT)
Fischer, Matthew Broadcom Corporation
Flammer, George Silver Spring Networks Inc.
Franklin, Antony Electronics and Telecommunications Research Instititute (ETRI)
Fukatsu, Noriyasu Mitsubishi Electric Automation Inc.
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Name Affiliation
Fukui, Kiyoshi Oki Electric Industry Co., Ltd.
Gilbert, Jeffrey SiBEAM, Inc.
GIRAUD, Claude NXP Semiconductors
Glibbery, Ronald Peraso Technology
Gloger, Reinhard Nokia Siemens Networks
GONG, DANING China Academy of Telecommunication Research
Gong, Michelle Intel Corporation
Gottlib, Elad Silver Spring Networks Inc.
Grandhi, Sudheer InterDigital Communications, LLC
Grass, Eckhard IHP GmbH
Grodzinsky, Mark wilocity
Guo, Xin Sony (China) Limited
Halasz, David Aclara
Hansen, Christopher Broadcom Corporation
Harkins, Dan Aruba Networks, Inc.
Hart, Brian Cisco Systems, Inc.
Hiertz, Guido Philips
Hillman, Garth OakTree Wireless
Hong, Seungeun Electronics and Telecommunications Research Instititute (ETRI)
Hsu, Yungping MediaTek Inc.
Huang, Tian-Wei National Taiwan University
Hwang, Sung Electronics and Telecommunications Research Instititute (ETRI)
Ibrahim, Brima Broadcom Corporation
Iso, Akio NICT
Jain, Avinash Qualcomm Incorporated
jiang, yanping Huawei Technologies Co., Ltd.
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Name Affiliation
jo, junho LG ELECTRONICS
Jones, Vince Qualcomm Incorporated
Jun, Haeyoung Samsung Electronics
Kafle, Padam Nokia Corporation
Kakani, Naveen Nokia Corporation
Kang, Hyunduk Electronics and Telecommunications Research Instititute (ETRI)
Karaoguz, Jeyhan Broadcom Corporation
Kasher, Assaf Intel Corporation
Kato, Shuzo National Institute of Information and Communications Technology (NICT)
Kennedy, Richard Resaearch In Motion
Khine, Thet Radrix Co. Ltd.
Khoryaev, Alexey Intel Corporation
KIM, BYOUNG-HOON LG ELECTRONICS
Kim, Chang Electronics and Telecommunications Research Instititute (ETRI)
Kim, Eun LG ELECTRONICS
Kim, Joonsuk Broadcom Corporation
Kim, Kyeongpyo Electronics and Telecommunications Research Instititute (ETRI)
Kim, Yongsun Electronics and Telecommunications Research Instititute (ETRI)
Kim, Youhan Atheros Communications Inc.
Kim, Youngsoo Samsung Electronics
kim, yunjoo Electronics and Telecommunications Research Instititute (ETRI)
Kimyacioglu, Mehmet IK Cognitive Wireless Consulting
Kitazawa, Shoichi ATR Wave Engineering Laboratories
KNECKT, JARKKO Nokia Corporation
Ko, Gwangzeen Electronics and Telecommunications Research Instititute (ETRI)
Kraemer, Bruce Marvell Semiconductor
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Name Affiliation
Kudo, Riichi NTT
Kurosaki, Masayuki Kyushu Institute of Technology
Kwak, Joseph InterDigital Communications, LLC
Kwon, Hyukchoon Samsung Electronics
KWON, UI Samsung
Lambert, Paul Marvell Semiconductor, Inc.
Lan, Zhou National Institute of Information and Communications Technology (NICT)
Lanante, Leonardo Kyushu Institute of Technology
Lauer, Joseph Broadcom Corporation
Lee, Daewon LG ELECTRONICS
lee, hoosung Electronics and Telecommunications Research Instititute (ETRI)
Lee, HyubWoo KEA
LEE, IL-GU Electronics and Telecommunications Research Instititute (ETRI)
Lee, Jae Electronics and Telecommunications Research Instititute (ETRI)
Lee, Jehun Electronics and Telecommunications Research Instititute (ETRI)
Lee, Yuro Electronics and Telecommunications Research Instititute (ETRI)
Lei, Zhongding Institute for Infocomm Research, Singapore
Li, Wenjun Huawei Technologies Co., Ltd.
Liao, YenChin Ralink
Liew, Hui-Ming A*STAR
Lin, Guan-Henry Ralink
Lin, Paul Ralink Technology, Corp.
Liru, Lu National Institute of Information and Communications Technology (NICT)
Liu, Hang Technicolor
Liu, Yong Marvell Semiconductor, Inc.
Loc, Peter Ralink Technology, Corp.
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Name Affiliation
Lomayev, Artyom Intel Corporation
Luo, Zhendong China Academy of Telecommunication Research
Lv, Chaoyuan WG802.11
Lynch, Bradley Peraso Technologies
Maltsev, Alexander Intel Corporation
Mano, Hiroshi ROOT, Inc.
Maruhashi, Kenichi NEC Corporation
Mccann, Stephen Research In Motion Limited
Merlin, Simone Qualcomm Incorporated
Mese, Murat Broadcom Corporation
Mizoguchi, Masato Nippon Telegraph and Telephone Corporation (NTT)
Montemurro, Michael Research In Motion Limited
Morinaga, Mitsutoshi Hitachi Ltd.
Morioka, Hitoshi ROOT, Inc.
Morioka, Yuichi Sony Corporation
Murray, Peter Self Employed
Myles, Andrew Cisco Systems, Inc.
Nagao, Yuhei Kyushu Institute of Technology
Nakano, Hiroki Trans New Technology, Inc.
Nandagopalan, Sai Broadcom Corporation
Nemavat, Pradeep Marvell Semiconductor, Inc.
Ngo, Chiu Samsung Electronics
Noh, Yujin LG ELECTRONICS
Oh, HangSeok LG ELECTRONICS
Oh, Jong-Ee Electronics and Telecommunications Research Instititute (ETRI)
Pandey, Santosh Cisco Systems, Inc.
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Name Affiliation
Pare, Thomas Ralink Technology, Corp.
Park, Hyungu Electronics and Telecommunications Research Instititute (ETRI)
Park, Jaewoo Electronics and Telecommunications Research Instititute (ETRI)
Park, Minyoung Intel Corporation
Park, Seung-Hoon Samsung Electronics
Peng, Xiaoming Institute for Infocomm Research
Peng, ZuoHui Realtek Semiconductor Corp.
Perahia, Eldad Intel Corporation
Ping, Xu Southeast University
Ponnampalam, Vishakan MediaTek Inc.
Purnadi, Rene Research In Motion Limited
Rahman, Mohammad National Institute of Information and Communications Technology (NICT)
Rajagopal, Sridhar Samsung Electronics
Ramachandran, Kishore NEC Laboratories America, Inc.
Reznik, Alex InterDigital, Inc.
Rosdahl, Jon CSR
Ruuska, Paivi Nokia
Sadri, Ali Intel Corporation
Sakoda, Kazuyuki Sony Corporation
Sasaki, Shigenobu Niigata University
Sato, Naotaka Sony Corporation
Sawai, Ryo Sony corporation
Seok, Yongho LG Electronics
Shao, Huairong Samsung Electronics
Shapira, Nir Celeno Communications
Shellhammer, Stephen Qualcomm Incorporated
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Name Affiliation
Shen, Bazhong Broadcom Corporation
Shimada, Shusaku Yokogawa Co.
Shukla, Ashish Marvell
Sim, Michael Panasonic
Smith, Dwight Motorola, Inc.
Song, Chunyi National Institute of Information and Communications Technology (NICT)
Song, Jae-Hyung LG ELECTRONICS
Song, Jianquan ZTE Corporation
Stacey, Robert Intel Corporation
Stanley, Dorothy Aruba Networks, Inc.
Stephens, Adrian Intel Corporation
Stephenson, David Cisco Systems, Inc.
STRUTT, GUENAEL Motorola, Inc.
Sum, Chin-Sean National Institute of Information and Communications Technology (NICT)
Sun, Chen National Institute of Information and Communications Technology (NICT)
Tanaka, Hirokazu TOSHIBA CORPORATION
Tarighat, Alireza Broadcom Corporation
THOMSON, ALLAN Cisco Systems, Inc.
Tomcik, James Qualcomm Incorporated
Toyoda, Ichihiko NTT
Trainin, Solomon Intel Corporation
Tran, Ha National Institute of Information and Communications Technology (NICT)
Tu, Yung-Szu Ralink Technology, Corp.
van Greunen, Jana Silver Spring Networks Inc.
Van Nee, Richard Qualcomm Incorporated
Venkatesan, Ganesh Intel Corporation
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Name Affiliation
Vermani, Sameer Qualcomm Incorporated
Villardi, Gabriel National Institute of Information and Communications Technology (NICT)
Wadhwa, Sanjay NECAM
Wang, Chao-Chun MediaTek Inc.
Wang, James MediaTek Inc.
Wang, Junyi National Institute of Information and Communications Technology (NICT)
wang, lin DT mobile
Wang, Qi Broadcom Corporation
Watanabe, Fujio NTT DoCoMo, Inc.
Wentink, Menzo Qualcomm
Woo, Pyo National Institute of Information and Communications Technology (NICT)
Wu, Ye NEC Corporation
Xu, yizhi Southeast University
Yang, Liuyang Intel Corporation
Yao, Guoliang Southeast University
Yee, James MediaTek Inc.
Yee, Jung Wi-LAN Inc.
Yee, Peter NSA/IAD
YUE, TIANHENG ZTE Corporation
Zeng, Yonghong Institute for Infocomm Research
Zhang, Hongyuan Marvell
Zhang, Ling Sony Corporation of America
Zhang, Ning Atheros Communications Inc.
Zhang, Xin WG802.11
Zhao, Mu Huawei Technologies Co., Ltd.
Zhao, Shiwei Atheros Communications Inc.
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Name Affiliation
Zhou, Bo WG802.11
Zhu, Chunhui Samsung Electronics
Zhu, Dalin NEC laboratories China, Inc.
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Annex B : Working Group Officers
IEEE 802.11 CURRENT WORKING GROUP CONTACTS
Name Position Phone, eMAIL & Affiliation
IEEE 802.11 WORKING GROUP (WG) CHAIR Marvell Semiconductor, Inc
Mail: c/o: Marvell Semiconductor, Inc. Phone: +1 (321) 427-4098
BRUCE KRAEMER 5488 Marvell Lane,
Santa Clara, CA 95054 Fax: +1 (321) 751-3988
bkraemer@ieee.org
WORKING GROUP - 1ST VICE-CHAIR /
CSR
TREASURER
JON
ROSDAHL +1 (801) 756-1496
Policies & Treasury
jrosdahl@ieee.org
WORKING GROUP - 2ND VICE-CHAIR &
Intel Corporation (UK) Ltd.
Technical Editor
ADRIAN
STEPHENS Tel: +44 1954 204 609 (office)
Attendance, Ballots, Documentation & Voting Tel: +44 792 008 4900 (mobile)
adrian.p.stephens@ieee.org
WORKING GROUP - SECRETARY &
Research in Motion (RIM) UK Ltd
PUBLICITY
STEPHEN
MCCANN +44 1753 667099
Minutes, Reports, & Communications
stephen.mccann@ieee.org
Cisco Systems
PETER ECCLESINE WORKING GROUP TECHNICAL EDITOR +1-408-527-0815
petere@cisco.com
Aerohive
WORKING GROUP - ASSIGNED NUMBERS
MATTHEW GAST +1 408-510-6137
AUTHORITY (ANA)
mgast@aerohive.com
Name Position Phone, eMAIL & Affiliation
WNG STANDING COMMITTEE - CHAIR Samsung Electronics
CLINT CHAPLIN +1(408)768-0827
Wireless Next Generations
clint.chaplin@gmail.com
ARC Ad-Hoc - CHAIR Calypso Ventures, Inc.
DAVID BAGBY +1 (650) 637-7741
802.11 Architecture
David.Bagby@ieee.org
JTC1 Ad-Hoc - CHAIR Cisco Systems
ANDREW MYLES +61 2 84461010
ISO/IEC JTC1/SC6
andrew.myles@cisco.com
REG Ad-Hoc - CHAIR Research In Motion
RICH KENNEDY +1 (972) 207-3554
802.11 Regulatory Ad Hoc Committee
rikennedy@rim.com
Name Position Phone, eMAIL & Affiliation
Task Group mb - Chair Aerohive
MATTHEW GAST
+1 408-510-6137
802.11 Accumulated Maintenance Changes
mgast@aerohive.com
Task Group p - Chair US Department of Transportation
LEE
Wireless Access for the Vehicular Environment +1 (617) 620-1701
ARMSTRONG
(802.11p Amendment) LRA@tiac.net
Task Group s - Chair Philips
DEE DENTEEER Mesh Networking
(802.11s Amendment) dee.denteneer@philips.com
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Task Group u - CHAIR Research in Motion (RIM) UK Ltd
STEPHEN
InterWorking with External Networks +44 1753 667099
MCCANN
(802.11u Amendment) stephen.mccann@ieee.org
Task Group v - Chair Aruba Networks
DOROTHY V. STANLEY Wireless Network Management +1( 630) 363-1389
(802.11v Amendment) dstanley@arubanetworks.com
Task Group z - Chair Qualcomm Netherlands
MENZO WENTINK Direct Link Setup +31 65 183 6231
(802.11z Amendment) mwentink@qualcomm.com
Task Group aa - CHAIR Intel Corporation
GANESH
VENKATESAN +1 (503) 264-0637
802.11 Video Transport Streams
ganesh.venkatesan@intel.com
Task Group ac - Chair Samsung Electronics
OSAMA ABOUL-MAGD
+1 613-599-5078
802.11 Very High Throughput < 6 GHz
osama@samsung.com
Task Group ad - Chair Intel Corporation
ELDAD PERAHIA
+1 (503) 712-8081
802.11 Very High Throughput 60 GHz
eldad.perahia@intel.com
Task Group ae - Chair Research In Motion
MICHAEL MONTEMURRO
+1-905-629-4746 x14999
QoS for Management Frames
mmontemurro@rim.com
Task Group af - Chair Research In Motion
RICH KENNEDY +1 (972) 207-3554
802.11 TV White Spaces
rikennedy@rim.com
Name Position Phone, eMAIL & Affiliation
S1G Study Group - Chair Aclara
DAVID HALASZ
+1 440-528-7477
Sub-1GHz Operation
dhalasz@aclara.com
FIA Study Group - Chair ROOT Inc.
HIROSHI MANO +81-3-5719-7630
Fast Initial Authentication
hmano@root-hq.com
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Annex C : Minutes
This Annex contains references to all IEEE 802.11 SC/TG/SG & Ad Hoc Committee (AHC) minutes
from this meeting. Please note that they are NOT subject to the approval of these minutes, but are
confirmed and approved by their individual group in the opening meeting at their next session.
WG TE 10-0683r0
TGMB TG 10-0629r0
TGS TG 10-0715r0
TGU TG 10-0563r0
TGV TG 10-0594r0
TGZ TG 10-0668r0
TGAA TG 10-0622r0
TGAC TG 10-0562r0
TGAD TG 10-0559r0
TGAE TG 10-0xxxr0
TGAF TG 10-0680r0
FIA SG 10-0615r0
S1G SG 10-0684r0
WNG SC 10-0603r0
JTC1 AHC 10-0xxxr0
REG AHC 10-0xxxr0
End.
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