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					      Minutes of the London South LLDD Strategy Group Meeting

            Tuesday 4th December, 2007, Jurys Inn, Croydon

Present: Gabe Flint (Richmond Adult Community College RACC), Steve
Davis, (South London Learning Partnership), Richard Lane (Bromley Autistic
Trust), David Carter, Barbara Thorn (Connexions), Sonya Hintz (Merton,
London Borough), Tom Coulter, Julia Pithouse (Eagle House Group), Fran
Dillnutt (Mencap), Robert Elston (Status Employment), Mark Foster (Twin
Training), Richard Horn (Richmond College), Claire Howley-Mummery (Nash
College), Michele Humphreys (Sutton College of Learning for Adults), Ros
Jellis (Pathway Employment Services), Alice Pennigton (SKILL), Roy Jenkins
(Croydon College), Mandy Kennedy (John Ruskin College), Sarah Lilley
(London Borough, Merton), Rebecca Martin (RACC), Theresa May (RACC),
Hannah Navarro (Croydon Employment Support Service), Hazel Swain,
Tracey Ahernen (Jobcentre Plus), Simon Vines (Orchard Hill College), Peter
Watts, Delveen Bailey (Merton College), Brenda Wormald (Coulsdon
College), Anne Orija (Sao Solutions), Orline Smith (SLLP, Get PAID project)

Apologies: Mary Francis (LSC), Caroline Allen (Orchard Hill College), Shirley
Daniels (Training Enterprise Ltd), Jo Greenwell (Ability Net), Jackie Sanders
(Marjorie McClure School), Chris Garbett (U Can Do IT), Patsy Golding, Colin
Herrick (Richmond College), Hannah Kendrick (Volunteer Centre Merton),
Jenny Lawrence (Richmond Adult Community College), Jaime Street (South
London Learning Partnership), Maria-Luisa Vanegas (Jobcentre Plus)

   1. Welcome

   Gabe Flint chaired the meeting in the absence of Mary Francis and
   welcomed everyone to the meeting. Mary sent her apologies as she was
   attending the final meeting of the London regional strategic advisory group
   endorsing the strategy and process for implementation.

   2. Minutes of the last meeting

   The minutes were agreed as being a true record of events.

   3. Matters arising from the last meeting

   There were no matters arising.

                           Co-financed by
                          ESF Objectives 3

      South London Learning Partnership, c/o Prospects Services Ltd,
          Grosvenor House,125 High Street, Croydon, CR0 9XP
                 Tel: 020 8649 6421 Fax: 020 8649 6445
   4. Dering Employment Services (Stephen Dering)

Unfortunately, Stephen Dering had to cancel his presentation because of
family bereavement. Steve has emailed him inviting him to speak at the next
meeting on Wednesday March 12th and he has confirmed he will attend.

In his absence the Chair outlined the latest ESF Bidding Round which there
are 5 or 6 LLDD related specifications. The PPQ (Pre Qualifying
Questionnaire) has had to have been completed before bids can be made. It
is a complicated procedure with tenders split into different areas and local can
mean both North and South of the River Thames. Partnership is essential for
submitting bids and these include Education Providers, Supported
Employment Agencies, Jobcentre Plus and IAG.
The closing date is January 11th. The South London Learning Partnership is
collating a list of all those interested in finding partners for the three ESF
rounds: LDA-LSC-London Councils.
If you wish to be added, please send your contact details and the specification
that you are interested in, and whether you want to lead or be a partner to
sllp@prospects.co.uk. The organisations who expressed particular interest
were Status Employment, Mencap Jobmatch (Bromley), RACC and Bromley
Autistic Trust
SLLP itself would be interested in being a partner in any bids. It was also
suggested to ask the LSC to arrange a workshop as soon as possible for
partners interested in finding partners and bidding. Steve said he would
contact Mary Francis.

   5. Developing autism expertise within colleges in London South
      (Richard Lane and Jo Delrée – Bromley Autistic Trust)

Richard gave a short presentation outlining the background of Bromley
Autistic Trust, which was founded in 1981 with the first residential home in the
UK opened in 1986. The Family Service Team was established in 1998 and
the Day Service in 2002. The Domiciliary Support Service began in 2002.

BAT now has 3 residential homes, 10 people in supported living
accommodation and an Outreach Worker who provides advice, guidance and
information. The Family Service Team database has a record of over 900
children on the ASD spectrum in the Bromley area.

Training is delivered through Jo Delrée, an external trainer.

Developing Autism Expertise in the London South LSC Region

    Current prevalence estimated at around 1% of the population
    Most people with autism do not have a learning disability

    People with autism are capable of making cognitive gains throughout
     their lives

(Powell 1996)

    …..colleges were less developed in their provision for students with
     autism than in their provision for students with learning difficulties,
     physical disabilities or sensory impairments.”

National Autistic Society

      “Only 6% of adults are in full time employment with 4% in part time
       24% are DOING NOTHING or “helping around the house”
      Current autism prevalence is approximately 1% of the population

Barnard et al 2001

The Training

           Session 1 – Introduction to ASD – The triad of impairments

What is Autism? What do we mean by “the spectrum”?

Is there a difference between autism and Asperger Syndrome?

           Session 2 – ASD and Communication

Ways of working with people with ASD positively. Basic communication

A further 5 days to be delivered to Autism Mentors from each college:

        Session 3 – Explaining Behaviour 1 - Psychological & physiological
         theories of ASD
        Session 4 – Explaining Behaviour 2 – Sensory Issues
        Session 5 - Prosthetic environments & other supports
        Session 6 – Managing emotions
        Session 7 – Working with Challenging Behaviour

The colleges which have been selected for the training are: Merton, Bromley,
Orpington, Croydon, John Ruskin, Carshalton and Kingston. Bromley Adult
Education College will also be involved in the training as they are hosting a
number of the training sessions.

   6. Developing Social Enterprises and the Retail Project at Richmond
      Adult Community College (Gabe Flint)

Hilary Walsh outlined the Retail Project at Richmond Adult Community
College which started in January 2007 with the mantra “Nothing about us

without us” and has involved the students in all decisions from the outset. It
has been supported by London South LSC and Mary Francis. Expertise has
been supplied by partner organisations especially Hawk Training.

The shop has still to be named but the students have decided on the product
range, pricing policy, signage and display. The shop is now an integral part of
the student’s learning which includes communication skills, numeracy,
business skills including customer service and literacy.

The learners make their own greeting and occasion cards, Christmas
decorations, gift tags and grow their own bulbs, all of which will be sold in the
shop. The shop was officially opened on December 3rd, the International Day
of Disabled People. Retail qualifications will be offered at Entry Level and
Level 1 and 2 and Certificates in Retail. The shop will be integral to the
Community College.

The Get PAID project has asked Ability Net to produce a toolkit on how to
make working with tills more accessible for disabled people. The toolkit will be
completed in mid December and will be forwarded to the Strategy Group and
placed on the Get PAID website. It is hoped the toolkit will enable disabled
people on work placements to have a greater role when undertaking retail

The shop will need a steady supply of second hand CD’s, DVD’s, books etc,
anyone wishing to donate such goods should contact Steve Davis at

It is hoped a number of Social Enterprises will be established with some
learners using Direct Payments to employ their own support workers.

If anyone is interested in establishing a Social Enterprise and would like to
take a look around the shop they should contact Gabe Flint at

   7. Eagle House Group, a specialist provider for young people with
      autism (Julia Pithouse and Tom Coulter)


          Eagle House School, Mitcham
          Eagle House School, Norfolk
          The Little Group, Epsom, Surrey
          Kestrel House School, North London
          The London Children’s Practice

   Eagle Life College – work with the more challenging end of the
   ASD spectrum

 In the village of Banham, near Diss in south Norfolk
 Near A11, A12 and M11 from London
 Near London Liverpool Street mainline service to Norwich
 1½ hours travelling time from London
 19 – 25 year old young adults
 ASD, moderate/severe learning difficulties
 Limited communicative ability
 Expectation of challenging behaviours
 Previous successful learning

“Adults with learning difficulties who can’t enter work need
meaningful educational provision to enable them to live fulfilling

Progression Through Partnership
DWP/DoH/DfES, June 2007

Enable learners with ASD and SLD to…

“…achieve their goals and progress to the maximum possible level of
independence and activity in their communities…”
   LSC National Strategy, 2006

 Person-centred planning
 Individual Learning Plans
 Multi-disciplinary practice (clinical psychology, Speech and Language
  Therapy, Occupational Therapy, adult social care, education)
 Learning for Living:
 Reducing dependence on others, developing skills: communication,
  ICT, numeracy, literacy, catering, horticulture, behaviour management,
  self-awareness, music, dance, horse riding, social skills, sport and
  fitness, home-making skills, travel, leisure, awareness of danger and
  risks, and personal hygiene and self-care.
 Learning for Living:
 Work shadowing, work simulation, work tasters (for those for whom
  supervised work experience isn’t appropriate).

    Curriculum for life beyond college
    Wrap around care at college
    Essential Skills Award
    Working towards LSC accreditation as an independent specialist
    Access to the community
    Safe environment
    Skilled professional staff
    Contact with family
    Better opportunities for social inclusion beyond the college

   8. The Get PAID Project

In the quarter October to December the project has delivered 6 half day
training workshops which attracted a total of 57 delegates. Judith Brittain-
Wong delivered a workshop on Deaf Awareness on November 14th. The
workshop was really well attended and received exceptional evaluation with
twelve delegates stating the training was excellent and three good. She will be
delivering a full day training workshop on the 25th January. There a few places
available, if interested in attending please email

Further workshops:

Including Physically Impaired Learners - Danny Puresh
Wednesday 30th January, 2008 10 am until 1pm
7th Floor, Grosvenor House, 125 High Street, Croydon CR0 9XP

Autistic Spectrum Disorder and Asperger Syndrome - Jo Delree
Friday 28th March 2008 10.00am – 1.00pm
7th Floor Grosvenor House, 125 High Street, Croydon, CR0 9XP

Whole day workshop Wednesday 5th March 2008 - Dyslexia Training run
by Ability Net – Jo Greenwell
7th Floor Grosvenor House, 125 High Street, Croydon, CR0 9XP

Between January and March the Get PAID project will be conducting a
research project. “Encouraging Best Practice in Enabling Learner Access to
Learning for Clients with Mental Health Needs with Learner Providers Not in
the Public Sector”. The Get PAID manager has hired a consultant to carry out
the research and write a report with recommendations with private work based
learner providers and the voluntary sector.

This project would identify

   1) How learner providers not in the public sector (i.e. Private work based
      learning providers and the voluntary sector) are currently providing for
      learners with mental health issues who would be classified as a having
      a “disability” as defined in the DDA
   2) How do they find out about the disability? For example do they receive
      such information from the Connexions Service through Section 140
      Assessment Reports?
   3) What proportion of learners declare the disability prior to starting the
      course, and what proportion are “discovered “ when in crisis
   4) How do they support learners?
   5) How could that support be improved?
   6) Can any recommendations be made to remove the mental health
      stigma and thus encourage greater openness and participation with
      appropriate support?
   7) What are the training needs of provider staff?

The Get PAID Website www.getpaid.org.uk

Usage of the website has steadily increased over the project period as contact
has improved and knowledge of the existence of the resource has broadened.
The graph below shows the number of sessions served by the site on a
month-by-month basis.

Number of hits:

         Number of sessions served on Get PAID Website Total Session

                                                      Number of sessions
                                                      served on Get PAID
                                                      Website Total Session
  1500                                                Served
   Fe -0 7

    Ju 7
   Ap 07
   M 07

   Au 7
   Ja 0 6

   Se 07
   O 07
   M 7
   Ju 07

   No 07
      r- 0







At present there are 248 members of the London South LLDD Strategy


The Get PAID project has developed two guides, a guide to including
Learners and Employees with Hearing Impairments. The purpose of this guide
is to provide learner providers and employers guidance on including people
who are deaf or have a hearing impairment. It includes information about Visit
Significan't online. Here you will find information about their services and
contact details should you wish to get in touch with them.

Significan't is a deaf-led social enterprise, dedicated to improving the lives of
deaf people. They offer a range of services, from SignBabies,
SignConsultancy, SignTraining to International Sign Interpreting. To find out
more about these, please click here.

The main service they offer, however, is our award winning SignVideo service.
Based on the latest advances in technology, SignVideo remotely connects
deaf sign language users to a high quality sign language interpreter within

For the many companies, services and individuals whom they serve, this is a
very effective way of enabling deaf people to carry out everyday activities,
such as going to the doctor or paying a parking fine, without needing to book
an interpreter in advance.

The other is a guide to including Learners and Employees with Visual

   9. Any other Business

The Learning for Living and Work in London Strategy strategy will now be
launched in the new year in order that endorsement of key partners can be

At the last meeting it was suggested to invite a speaker from the Department
of Work and Pensions to speak about benefits. It was also suggested to invite
a speaker from the LSC who deals with finance to attend because there is an
issue where disabled people post 19 are on non means tested benefit (e.g.
Incapacity Benefit) they are not eligible for fee remission. Steve will contact
Mary Francis and request a speaker from the LSC.

Steve announced he will be leaving his role as the Get PAID manager and
introduced Orline Smith as his successor. The Chair thanked Steve for his
work in establishing and managing the Get PAID project. Orline’s email
address is orline.smith@prospects.co.uk

   10. Date of next meeting

The next meeting will take place on Wednesday March 12th, 9.30 to 12.30 at
Jurys Inn.


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