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TEXAS SOCIETY OF PROFESSIONAL SURVEYORS



OFFICAL REPORT FROMAT





DIVISION: Liaison Division #3 Division Officer

COMMITTEE: TxDOT Chairperson Reporting John F. Pierce



BOARD MEETING DATE: February 02, 2008



COMMITTEE ACTIVITY REPORT



Since our last report the Standing Committee on Surveying (SCOS) has held meetings on

November 15, 2007 at the Camp Hubbard campus. The following TxDOT representatives

were present:

John Wallis, Odessa District; Ivor Walker, Houston District; Jon Cox, Dallas District;

Mark Caldwell, Atlanta District; Randall Kercher, Corpus Christi District; Steve

Schmidt, ISD Division; Marcy Saenz, Design Division; Dean Wilkerson, ISD Division,

Jesse Cooper, Right-of-Way Division; Darryl Zercher, ISD Division; Judy Skeen

(Sponsor) ISD Division and myself.



Sub-committee Reports

1) Pre-certification (Jonathan Cox) – Requests are still being received for pre-

certification. Approximately 20% of the applications are not approved.



2) Survey Manual (John Wallis / Dean Wilkerson) – SCOS comments on the

manual changes have been provided to Steve Schmidt and the

recommended changes have been incorporated. The manual will go to

OGC / AUD for review and comment by November 21, 2007. Once the

appropriate reviews have been completed, ISD will submit manual changes

to GSD (target date: January 5, 2008 for a February 2008 publication date).

Dean Wilkerson will develop a manual update notice to be sent out once the

Survey Manual changes have been published.



The ‘Point - Denial of Access’ marker has been approved by the ROW

Division. Steve Schmidt will draft an email for John Wallis to send out to the

District Survey Coordinators to make them aware of the approved survey

monument types.



The photogrammetry circle targets are still being tested; therefore, these will

not be included in the current revision of the survey manual.



3) Survey Contract Templates (Ivor Walker) – The draft ‘Attachment C –

Services to be Provided by the Surveyor’ document has been completed

and was presented to SCOS. SCOS will review and send comments to Ivor

Walker by December 14, 2007. The revised document, incorporating SCOS

comments, will be presented to Camille Thomason for DES review (target

date: January 2008). Following DES review and approval, the document

will be forwarded to the District Survey Coordinators for review and

comment. Final review and approval will be addressed during the

Surveyors’ Conference in March 2008.



4) Survey Software Solutions (Darryl Zercher) – The project is underway.

Based on the POB survey / ranking of surveying software products, project

team members ranked the products based on product functionality in an

effort to create a list of three software packages to evaluate further. Due to

heavy work loads, one member of the project team was not able to

complete the evaluation. Based on the rankings given, products from the

following vendors will be reviewed during the evaluation phase: Bentley,

CEDRA Corporation, and Eagle Point. The Project Board approved the

team to proceed with the evaluation of GEOPAK Survey and the Eagle

Point software product. Darryl Zercher will provide additional information on

the CEDRA Corporation products, Avcad and Avcogo, to allow the board to

make an informed decision on which of these products should be evaluated.

If the decision is made to not proceed with the evaluation of the CEDRA

product line, Traverse PC software may also be considered for evaluation.



The detailed criteria list for product evaluation was discussed. The following

items were added to the existing list to be used in the evaluation;

differential leveling, spiral curves, proportioned distances, best fit line,

horizontal curves (compute curves with two or three elements and fitting a

curve to two tangents), horizontal curves (reverse, compound, and

concentric), vertical curves, point creation by intersection, assign attribute of

zone or group to points, chains, etc., plotting, cross sections, categories of

break lines for contour line creation, volume computations, import / export of

Trimble DC file, automated annotation of parcels, and export of legal

descriptions based upon parcels.



5) ROW Mapping Electronic Standards (Jesse Cooper) – Dan Erwin is working

on the draft of the ROW Mapping Electronic Standards. At this point there

is no anticipated completion date.



Dan Erwin has also been tasked with providing guidance to districts in the

collection of HBA sign data for surveying and GIS mapping. ISD will post

mapping standards guidelines for GPS data collection on the ISD intranet

site.



6) ISD Engineering and Survey System Activities (Dean Wilkerson) – ISD is

continuing to work with CST, DES, WAC and TYL to determine TxDOT

requirements for incorporating 3D machine control into design / construction

processes.



ISD ESS has recently received help screens and guidance on entering

Lat/Long data into DCIS. ESS will develop a ‘how to’ document to provide

information on Lat/Long data entry to district advanced planning engineers,

survey coordinators, and GIS coordinators.

Old Business

1) 2008 TxDOT Survey Conference

 Potential topics were discussed and SCOS assignments (for securing

speakers) were made.

 The vendor website (to reserve booth space) will be up and available

in the next two weeks. Email notifications will be sent out to previous

participants.



2) 2008 District Survey Coordinator Workshop

 ROW Utility / Electronic Mapping Standards (Jesse Cooper)

 ROW map scanning / FileNet EDMS (Jesse Cooper / Darryl Zercher)

 Update on WORMS (Dean Wilkerson)

 Survey Software Status Report (Darryl Zercher)

 New survey monument types (Steve Schmidt)

 Circle targets for Photogrammetry (Jonathan Martin)

 Multi-district aerial flights (Mark Eder)

 Survey Contract Template for Attachment C (Ivor Walker)

 Surveyor Safety on the Roadway – documented guidelines / traffic

control plans (Jesse Cooper / Ivor Walker)

 Coordination between schematic development and ROW mapping

(Marcy Saenz)



New Business

1) HBA Permit Survey Requirement (Jesse Cooper) – A majority of the HBA

activities will require GIS-level mapping surveys and will not require an

RPLS. The need for professional surveying services to support this effort

will be limited to permits involving litigation. Additional direction on HBA

permit survey requirements will be forthcoming from the ROW Division in

December and January.



2) Survey Crew Safety Handbook – The Survey Crew Safety handbook (1976

?) is obsolete. References to this handbook are being removed from survey

contract language. SCOS is considering the idea of incorporating updated

survey safety references into the Survey Manual. References to survey

safety in the TxDOT Occupational Manual will also be updated.



3) Next Meeting: January 16, 2008 (8:00 am start time)





Respectfully submitted

John F. Pierce, TSPS liaison to TxDOT SCOS



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