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Charleston Chapter, Military Officers Association of America
September, 2008 Web site: www.chasmoaa.org
VA Hospital Visit Chief Jon Zumalt, North
Charleston Police Chief
Be sure to mark your calendars for September 20th,
as that is the day that your Chapter will be visiting
the VA Hospital again.
These visits serve to help cheer up those veterans
that we see, and helps them to realize that they are Our speaker for the 19 September Luncheon will be
appreciated for their service to their Country. It Jon Zumalt, Police Chief of North Charleston. He will
also serves to remind us of what they have done, be speaking on crime and crime prevention particu-
and gives us an appreciation for their service. larly concerning what he is doing to stop crime in
North Charleston
You, as veterans or spouses of veterans can help to
cheer up our hospitalized veterans by going along Place: Charleston Club, Charleston AFB
on this visit. Date: 19 September 2008
Please give Terry Joyce a call at 871-6360 or Cliff Time: 11:00 a.m. Social Time
Abbey at 764-2448 and let them know that you will 12:00 Lunch
be joining us this month.
Cash Bar
It will not require a lot of your time, and you will Menu: Shrimp Kabob and Chicken Teriyaki
feel better for having participated. Kabob, Rice Pilaf, Julienne of Vegetable,
Rolls and Butter, Coffee/Tea, Cheesecake
We will meet at the CAFB Club at the Air Force
Base around 9:15, and convoy down to the hospital. Dress: Casual
Or, if you want, you can meet us there. Please Join
us Cost: $19.00
$17.00 (Club Members)
Make checks payable to: Charleston MOAA. (Club
members please remember to put the last 4 digits of your
club card on your check.
RSVP: 16 September 2008
Mail to: LT Cliff Abbey
100 Cheshire Dr
Goose Creek, S.C. 29445-7128
For information call Cliff Abbey, 764-2448 or Cell 814-
Who's this Month’s MOAA Profile?
See Page Three
Page 1 ONE POWERFUL VOICE
Legislative Update
CDR John E. Nolan, SC, USN
Here We Go Again
The 10th Quadrennial Review Compensation * Authorize the services to pay flexible “gate pays”
(QRMC) issued its final report during the week ending and separation pay at certain points of service to en-
August 8th, recommending major changes in the mili- courage continued service or encourage people to
tary retirement , health care systems among several leave, depending on the services needs for certain
other proposals. The report has been referred to the kinds of people at the time.
Defense Department for a 6-9 month review, which
means it will be left to the next Administration to de- * Link TRICARE enrollment fees for retirees and
cide whether to recommend congressional action on survivors under age 65 to a percentage of Medicare
any of the recommendations. Part B enrollment fees, with means tested fees based
on the beneficiaries adjusted gross income.
MOAA has been advocating for several of the recom-
mendations including: *Double co-pays for generic and brand name medi-
cations purchased in retail pharmacies and brand
* Establish flexible spending accounts to let active name drugs in the mail order system.
duty, Guard and Reserve members set aside pre-tax
dollars to cover out of pocket expenses for health care The issues are more extensive than can be addressed
and dependent care. adequately in a single legislative update, but here are
* Create a wide variety of incentive programs aimed a few for starters;
at attracting and retaining more health care profes- *The proposal is so complicated that people evaluat-
sionals to meet rising health care needs. ing career decisions at the 4 to 10 year point would
* Eliminate deductibles and co-pays for preventive have no way to project their future military retire-
care services (e.g. immunizations, mammograms, ment benefits.
colonoscopies) that have been proven to reduce longer- *The proposal would take money from people who
term health costs. serve a career (by deferring full retirement pay until
* Evaluate TRICARE reimbursements rates to guar- age 57-60) in order to fund vesting for people who
antee sufficient access to health care providers. separate early.
* Increase investment in child care and fully fund Im- MOAA doesn’t believe in tying premiums for under
pact Aid programs for school districts serving military 65 retirees to the cost of providing care to elderly and
children. disabled beneficiaries whose health cost will obvi-
* Eliminate co-pays for generic drugs purchased ously be higher.
through the mail-order system.
But MOAA has significant problems with QRMC pro- MOAA doesn’t believe it’s proper to means-test mili-
posals that would: tary health fees based on total family income. That
*Convert to a civilian-style retirement system under may apply to Medicare— a social insurance program
which full retired pay wouldn’t be paid until age 57-60. funded by the taxpayer for every American— but it’s
not appropriate for military benefits earned by ca-
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Dorothy Mae “Dottie” Flatley
Matriarch of Naval Aviation
Editor’s Note:
Dorothy Mae “Dottie” Flatley of Mount Pleasant is They had four sons over the next several years.
the mother of MOAA’s retired Rear Adm. Jim Flatley.
“Like any Navy family, we traveled widely,” Dottie
For years, she has held the title of Matriarch of Naval
writes. “Before World War II, we lived for two years in
Aviation. Beginning in 1988, the U.S. Navy has pre-
the Provence region of France (1937-39), near Nice, as
sented the Dorothy M. Flatley Naval Aviation Spouse of
well as two years (1934-36) in Hawaii.”
the Year Award to a Navy spouse who has best exempli-
fied Dottie’s “75 years of inspirational support as a During the war, “we lived in Coronado-San Diego where
spouse, mother and grandmother.” I volunteered for the Red Cross and Navy Relief. We had
This year has been especially significant. On April 30, the impossible task of trying to comfort many newly-made
Dottie celebrated her 100th birthday. In recognition of war widows and devastated, grieving families.”
the occasion, Vice Adm. Thomas “Killer” Kilcline, The Flatleys remained a Navy family after the war, liv-
Commander, Naval Air Forces, proclaimed “Dottie” a ing in Texas, Alabama, Virginia, Missouri, Florida, Mary-
“Centurion,” a title she conveyed to Willard Scott of land, and Washington, DC. In 1958, while on duty at the
NBC’s “Today” show and millions of viewers. Pentagon, Dottie’s husband, then Vice Adm. James H.
Dottie’s family gathered for the occasion and her Flatley, Jr. died. He was 52.
youngest son, David, helped her prepare a biography.
Some of her remarks appear below. In the 1960s, Dottie moved back to Florida to care for
her stepmother. However, she kept abreast of Naval ac-
********************** tivities through her family and the USS Yorktown Asso-
“I was born Dorothy Mae McMurray on April 30, ciation. In 1980, she sponsored the guided missile frigate
1908 in Mulberry, Florida,” Dottie writes. “My father, USS Flatley by breaking a bottle of champagne across its
Ray James McMurray, was a physician. My mother, bow.
Minnie Fredrica Larsen McMurray, was a registered “All my sons served honorably in the U.S. Navy,”
nurse.” Dottie writes. “Jim and Brian became naval aviators and
Sadly, Dottie’s mother died eight months after Dottie Jim was selected, like his dad, to be a rear admiral. I have
was born. Her father remarried, then died when Dottie 16 grandchildren and 40 great-grands and many beautiful
was six. Dottie’s stepmother raised her until she went off memories.”
to Florida State Women’s College, now Florida State Last month, your chapter’s board voted Dottie Flatley an
University. honorary auxiliary member of Charleston MOAA in rec-
She graduated in 1929 and taught school in Central ognition of her lifetime of service, love and devotion to
Florida until 1933 when she married Navy Lt. James H. U.S. Naval aviators everywhere.
Flatley, Jr. Well done, Dottie!
Dottie Flatley and husband
Dottie at age 19 James in 1933
Christening ceremony of Dottie Christening the
the USS Flatley Frigate USS Flatley
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Military ID Cards
Help our
Chapter Do you need a new ID card? The 437th Force Support
Help Low Squadron ID section, in Building 503, room 110, is open
Monday through Friday, 7:30 a.m. to 4:30 p.m. to assist
Country you.
Kids
ID cards are being provided on an as needed basis.
We are selling decals and license plates and New ID cards will still include the social security number
the profits from these sales will go back to the for military members and retirees. The 437th Force Sup-
community through programs such as the an- port Squadron says there are no plans to remove the
nual Toys for Tots program. social security number (SSN) from ID cards.
Only dependents may request the social security num-
These beautiful red, white and blue decals
ber be omitted. However, that could cause a problem
and license plates will enable you to show your
because the military ID is required to cash a check at
MOAA colors.
the Commissary, BX or to pick up prescriptions at the
military pharmacy.
They are guaranteed not to chip, crack or
fade for three years.
Decals are $5.00 each (2 for $9) Upcoming Activities
Plates are $10 each (two for $18)
September 19th: POW/MIA Recognition Day
Decal & License Plate Order Blank September 19th: Charleston MOAA Luncheon Func-
tion at the CAFB Club
Name:_____________________________________
September 20th: Quarterly Visit to the VA Hospital.
Address:___________________________________ Meet at 9:15 at the Charleston Club; convoy down to
the hospital. This is a very worthwhile activity for
City:______________________________________ members.
State:__________________ Zip_______________ October: Annual Picnic. Date and location to be an-
nounced.
Quantity:
__________Decal ($5 each & 2 for $9 November: Annual Seafood Night at Red’s Ice
House. Lahm Award presentation. Date and time to
__________License Plate ($10 each &2 for $18 be announced.
Make your check payable to Charleston MOAA
19 December: Christmas function. Election of offi-
MAIL TO: COL J. W. Fuller cers.
617 Fairway Forest Drive
Summerville, SC 29485-6214
Sam Stafford III, M.D.
Mt. Pleasant Dermatology
1280 Johnnie Dodds Blvd.
Suite 300
Mt. Pleasant, SC 29464
(843) 881-0320
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Shingles Vaccination The Veterans Affairs Medical Center is another option
for military retirees. I enrolled at the VA just to get the shot
Editor’s Note — MOAA’s Terry but was told the vaccine wasn’t immediately available. They
registered me, then told me to “call back in four weeks.” I
Joyce spent time last month learning wonder where they heard that?
about shingles vaccinations. Here is
So what’s next?
what he found.
I can tell you that I did finally get a shingles vaccination
and I didn’t have to lay out a hefty deductible or co-pay. I
Shingles anyone? was asked, however, not to publish how I was able to do this.
No, not the kind that go on your roof. We’re talk-
ing about the shingles that can give you a nasty rash So, I won’t. But if you’re interested in getting the shot,
and severe pain. call or shoot me an e-mail. I’ll pass the word on an individual
basis. My number and e-mail address follow.
Anyone who had chicken pox as a child can
come down with shingles. That’s about 90 percent of Phone: 871-6360
the population. E-mail: wtjoyce@prodigy.net
According to the U.S. Centers for Disease Con- We want to express our appreciation to David Wilcott, our
trol and Prevention, the news isn’t all bad. There’s a printer, for printing the cover of the August edition of the
vaccine that can prevent shingles in roughly half the Bridge View in color, as a way of recognizing BG Mikola-
population, age 60 or over. Others who come down jcik for his hard work on getting ALS recognized as a Ser-
with the ailment after they’ve been vaccinated usu- vice Connected Disability. Thanks, David.
ally suffer less pain than those who didn’t receive the
shot.
You gotta have a Jones
The CDC recommends a single dose of shingles
vaccine for most adults age 60 and above.
Serving the Low Country for over 41
years
Now the bad news. The vaccine in the private
sector is pricey. And if you rely solely on the Low-
country’s military medical agencies for a shingles
vaccination, you may have a long wait. Here’s why.
The vaccine isn’t covered under Medicare. Con- I 26, exit 211B, right on Rivers
sequently, Tricare for Life doesn’t come into play. 843-744-3311
The vaccine IS covered by Tricare Standard and
Tricare Prime, but again, there are some glitches. My
private physician, who refuses to deal with Tricare
Standard, would charge me $280.00 for the vaccine. Family First Medical Care, L.LC.
If you’re age 60 to 65 and under Tricare Prime
with the Navy, you must get a prescription from your Doctor Donald Hurley CDR USN (Ret.)
primary care manager, then get the shot from your TRICARE Provider
Navy shot clinic. The co-payment is $12.00.
Your Family Doctor
You will have to arrange in advance for the shot 1483 Tobias Gadson Blvd. Ste 206 Tel: (843) 766-1936
because it has a short shelf life and is obviously ex- Charleston, SC 29407 Fax: (843) 766-1206
pensive. The Air Force shot clinic said it had no www.familydoctor.org/hurley
shingles vaccine available the last time I spoke with
them. I was told to call back in four to 10 weeks. Detyens Shipyard, Inc.
If you use Tricare Standard with a private physi- D. Loy Stewart-Chairman
1670 Drydock Avenue
cian, be prepared to pay $150.00 deductible to your Bldg 236, Suite 200
private physician, plus a co payment. North Charleston, SC 29405-2121
Telephone 843-308-8029
Fax: 843-308-8008
E-mail: lstewart@detyens.com
Customer before Company
Employee before Owner
Service above All
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Nominations are now being accepted
for the Robert J. Lahm Award
President’s Pen The Robert J. Lahm Award was established to honor the
memory of Lieutenant Colonel Robert J. Lahm, who served
as Chapter Secretary from January 1997 to April 2003. Lt
As we look forward to cooler weather in the re- Col Lahm made many significant contributions to both the
maining months of this year our chapter has some community and to this Chapter. The Award recognizes the
interesting events for you to consider. The Sep- efforts of an individual in providing outstanding service to
tember luncheon will feature North Charleston the Charleston community and Charleston Chapter MOAA
Police Chief Jon Zumalt as our guest speaker.
Nominations: Any chapter member (including Honorary)
Details of the event are included in this newslet- making a significant contribution to this Chapter and/or the
ter. Charleston Trident Community is eligible. Any chapter
We are planning for another picnic in October. member may nominate a member of the Charleston MOAA
Time and location will be announced in the Octo- Chapter for this award. Eligibility will be considered for
ber newsletter. non-members, on a case-by-case basis, who have clearly
demonstrated outstanding service regarding the purpose of
In November once again this year we will meet at this chapter.
Red’s Ice House in Mt. Pleasant for our annual Submission: Nominations are to be submitted to the Chapter
seafood dinner. We will also present the Lahm President not later than 31 October 2008. Mail it to LT
Award to this year’s recipient. The date for this Cliff Abbey, 100 Cheshire Drive, Goose Creek, SC 29445-
event has not been finalized but will likely be be- 7128
fore Thanksgiving.
Recipient’s name will be added to a permanent trophy.
Our annual Christmas luncheon will be on De- Award will be presented at the November member function
cember 19 so please mark your calendar. This is at Red’s Ice House.
the meeting at which we elect officers for the
New Year. Restrictions:
(a) Sitting Chapter President is not eligible.
As I conclude my term as your chapter president I (b) Normal duties of office performed by Board members
am hopeful that some energetic and enthusiastic are not deemed significant contributions and thus are not
members will step forth to lead our chapter into eligible for this award
2009 and beyond!
Cliff
2007-2008 OFFICERS and BOARD OF DIRECTORS
PRESIDENT LT Clifton R. Abbey, USN (thru 2008) 764-2448 abbeycr@bellsouth.net
1st VP PROGRAMS VACANT
2nd VP MEMBERSHIP COL Allan T. Smith, USAF 572-2011 alandmarty@comcast.net
SECRETARY COL Clinton L. Noren, USAF 552-7579 cnoren@earthlink.net
TREASURER LTCOL. Ed Knowles, USAF 553-5299 r66837.comcast.net
DIR. HOSPITALITY MRS. Virginia P. CHINNES, AUX (thru 2010) 572-8761
DIR AWARDS MAJOR John F. Griffin, USAF 767-8765 papgriffin@yahoo.com
ASST DIR AWARDS COL Steve A. Rowe, USA 303-7438 srowe@prucar.com
DIR PERSONAL AFFAIRS CAPT Roy Corderman, USN 571-5061
DIR. LEGISLATIVE CDR John E. Nolan, USN (thru 2010) 821-5767 sandlappers@sc.rr.com.
DIR. T.O.P.S/PUBLICITY MAJOR Terry Joyce, USAF (thru 2010) 871-6360 wjoyce@prodigy.net
PAST PRESIDENT COL Josiah (Butch) Fuller, USA (thru 2008) 821-0169 ButchFuller@aol.com
REPRESENTATIVES TO THE BOARD (Appointed by the President)
EDITOR COL Josiah (Butch) Fuller 821-0169 ButchFuller@aol.com
CHAPLAIN CAPT Henry Lovelady, USN 553-9581 capthenryl@comcast.net
SCHOLARSHIP COL Rudy Smart, USAF 824-1263 rudy@thesmartsplace.com
News and Views herein are not necessary those of any Government Department or of other Chapters or Members. Prospective Chapter
Members: if you are not a member of the Charleston Chapter, MOAA, you have received this copy as a courtesy invitation to call any Officer or
Director for information about joining.
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CHARLESTON AIR FORCE REST IN PEACE
BASE PHARMACY STILL A grateful Nation thanks all of our deceased mem-
NEEDS VOLUNTEERS bers for their contributions.
Have you ever thought about returning to serve your May all of you rest in peace.
Country? Well, there is an easy way that you can do
it, by volunteering to work at the Charleston Air A contribution will be made to the Scholarship
Force Base Pharmacy. They need your help, with Fund in memory of our lost members.
openings on the morning and afternoon shifts.
It isn’t tough work, the hours aren’t too long, and
quite frequently you will meet someone that you
served with or was in the same unit that you were in.
Elections are Coming Up
The job involves greeting the patients, checking their
ID Cards and giving the patients their prescriptions. The end of the year, and the end of Cliff Ab-
The full time staff at the pharmacy is packed with bey’s term as president is fast approaching.
real professionals who know their job and are a big Cliff has done an outstanding job, serving as
help to the volunteers and to the patients.
president and First Vice President at the same
Join the ranks with Marty Smith, Terry and Rudy time. We desperately need someone to step
Smart, Ray Borelli, Butch and Berneice Fuller, Ritha forward and take over both of these posi-
Tuten, Marie Loftain and others who serve at the tions.Thinking about running for a chapter of-
Pharmacy. Give any one of them a call, and they will
fill you in on the activities there.
fice? I sure hope so. Give me a call if you are
interested, and I will let you know what the du-
Just call Kim Zellner-Green at 843-963-6808, and ties are.
she will be glad to get you enrolled in the volunteer
program.
Butch Fuller 843-821-0169 or e-mail me at
Thanks for volunteering. ButchFuller@aol.com.
Charleston Chapter MOAA Membership Application Renewal Change of Address
(circle one). Chapter Dues: $10.00 a year for Regular membership. Auxiliary membership $5.00 per year.
Multiple year dues are encouraged in order to reduce paperwork. Make check payable to “Charleston
MOAA”. Mail to: Charleston MOAA, P.O. Box 70421, Charleston SC 29415-0421.
Last Name ______________________________________________ First Name __________________________________ MI______
DOB _____________ Rank ______________ Service ____________ Spouse’s Name _______________________________________
Address __________________________________________ City ________________________ State _____ Zip __________-______
Phone Number ___________________________________ Email _______________________________________________________
If you are a member of National MOAA, please provide your membership number _______________________________________
Your status (circle one) Retired Active Duty Reserve National Guard Former Officer Auxiliary
Dues for Year (s) _____________ Signature______________________________________________________________
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MEMBERSHIP NEWS MEMBERS WHO HAVE PAID DUES
FOR 5 OR MORE YEARS
Total Membership: 496
Auxiliary Members: 98 One additional member has joined the ranks of those
Honorary Members: 39 who have paid their dues for five or more years.
In addition to those previously recognized, we
Dues Questions are pleased to extend our wholehearted thanks to
the following member:
Questions concerning your status should be directed to: CDR Milo W. Fuller, USN (Ret.)
Al Smith, Membership VP. 572-2011
alandmarty@comcast.net
BE THE NEXT IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD!!
Did you know that this newsletter is on line and in
Toys for Tots
living color? Check out our website at Thanks to all who have so generously responded to
www.chasmoaa.org. You will need the latest version of our Toys for Tots solicitations. We are at $552 due
Adobe Reader which is available on our site, and it’s free in no small part to LCDR Paul Handley’s donation
If you choose to access the newsletter from the web on a
of $50.00. Thanks, Paul. We are approaching our
regular monthly basis instead of the U.S. Post Office
“snail mail”, you will: goal of $700. Many of you contribute generously at
our monthly functions, and we thank you. I am con-
-Be notified as soon as the newsletter is on the web. fident that we will support the cause as well as we
have done in the past.
- Receive your copy 5 to 7 days earlier.
- Help the environment by reducing paper waste and
diminishing the number of trees needed to make paper. John Common, DMD, MS
CDR, DC, USN, Retired
- Help your Chapter to reduce the price tag involved in Practice Limited to Periodontics
the cost of postage (postage rates went up again 321 North Laurel Street
12May08) and printing!
Summerville, SC, 29483
I hope this sounds like something you would like to do to Phone (843)-871-6636
help your chapter. If so, let Al Smith know at
alandmarty@comcast.net.
If you select this option you will receive a personal e-
mail in October and December of each year showing you NON-PROFIT ORG
your annual dues expiration date. CHARLESTON CHAPTER U.S. POSTAGE
Military Officers Association of America PAID
P.O. Box 70421 Charleston, SC
Charleston, SC 29415-0421 Permit No. 259
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