WP 5
Setting up a joint
procurement procedure
Part 1: WP5 overwiew
Which obstacles to a common
trans- national procurement
initiative ?
Which solution ?
What has been done
• Collect information through the partners and European
questionnaire
• Link with existing common procurement experiences
• Identify juridical state of the art tools
Compro participatory process
From the demand side
(convergence on common standards/specification ?)
From the supply side
(attitude of the industry towards buyers consortia)
From a juridical perspective
How can we join the order ?
Part 2: What to buy ?
(tech specs)
Start from UITP Tender Structure for tendering of buses
and related services, functional specifications to try to
achieve common procurement standard;
Proposition for a common clean bus = comparison of
each city requirement:
OK = I agree to buy buses with proposition of compro standard
KO N = I disagree to buy buses with proposition BUT it is negotiable
KO NN = I disagree to buy buses with proposition and it is NON
negotiable
13.1 Accessibility Conformity with directive EC-EU/2001/85
Item Semitan ATC Bremen obstacle for common spec
Nantes Bologna Standard N : negotiable
Door position Urban (door ahead ok
axle 1)
Door functions Door 1 : entry only From 2 to 4 doors All doors entry and exit see « position of command buttons for
(entry or exit, or both) Others doors : exit only ND pass.”
except door 2 for
wheelchair
Type and size of doors Double Each double Each double OK door movement : in or out ?
(double / single leaf) Movement out N Movement in >> buyers’ compromise or option
(movement in / out)
Ramps Ramp automatic at ok Lift at door 1 wheelchair access : which door ? /
(automatic or manual) door 2 NN : legal standard in lift or ramp ?
NN : operation Bremen >> Serious difficulty to find common
spec
Step heights Between 320 and 350 ok 270 (Kneeling) ok
Accessibility for disabled 2 specific places 4 specific places 4 specific places near all ok : EC-EU/2001/85
doors (2001/85)
passengers near door 2 near door 2 4 specific places
NN: problems with
handicapped people ? number of wheelchair places (1
organisations or 2 ?)
Position of the Outside : 1m20 high 2001/85 OK ok
emergency button Inside : top of the door
NN : regulation
Position of the command Outside : no button 2001/85 Outside: OK If doors are in self-service (entry &
inside: ok + integrated in
buttons for non-disabled Inside : 1 button on exit), command buttons must be
handrails
passengers (outside and each door placed outside.
inside) >> Pre-wiring could be possible
Position of the command Outside : 1 button near 2001/85 2001/85 Ok : EC-EU/2001/85
buttons for disabled door 2 At each place for
passengers (outside and Inside : 1 button on disabled people
inside) each specific
wheelchair space
NN : regulation
Details of the table
ACCESSIBILITY
Type and size of doors (double / door movement : in or out ?
single leaf) (movement in / out) >> buyers’ compromise or option
Ramps wheelchair access : which door ? / lift or ramp ?
(automatic or manual) >> Serious difficulty to find common spec
Position of the command If doors are in self-service (entry & exit), command
buttons for non-disabled buttons must be placed outside.
passengers (outside and inside) >> Pre-wiring could be possible
DRIVER’S CABIN
Dashboard lay out dashboard layout : VDV or not ?
>> is VDV possible to be a standard for Europe ?
Ticketing equipment error : ticketing is not validation (see « life
onboard »)
equipment on driver post door : drawer ?
LIFE ON BOARD
Seat layout and seat design seats : plastic or cloth ?
>> buyers’ compromise or option
Information system vocal announcement : new french regulation
>> not included in the specs (to be added after)
Advertising equipment advertising equipment : all different
>> not included in the specs (to be added after)
Validation equipment number and place of validation equipments :
different
>> Pre-wiring near each door
Communication systems (radio, Network specific
GPS)
Emergency button and system emergency command : pedal or button ?
for the driver >> buyers’ compromise or final adjustments
EMISSIONS (pollution and noise) regulation : just regulation or better ?
>> clean buses wished or option
SAFETY
Fire safety system fire safety system : engine extinguish system
>> buyers’ compromise or option
Hammers to break windows hammers : position
>> not expensive : final adjustments
First aid kits first aid kit : yes or no ?
>> not expensive : final adjustments
Exterior safety (acoustic signal reversing safety system : which one ?
and cameras when reversing, >> not included in the specs (to be added after)
mirrors to reduce blind spots,
soft front)
GENERAL CHARACTERISTICS: specific design : many points
Specific design (external, floor, >> not included in the specs (to be added after) or
fabrics) option or final adjustments … or serious obstacle for
common
In summary
• At first view : more convergence points than blocking points…
• …But the devil hides in details ?
Manufacturing overcosts:
– 10% are linked to national regulations (road regulation)
– 10% are linked to network facilities adaptation (AVL, radio systems,
ticketing, ramps etc..)
– 80% at the specific operation and commercial requirements (colours,
design, seats, places of the doors, driver cabins…)
• Go back to different manufacturers with a summary of the sepcs
table :
– what do they consider should be in the common base
– what can be optionnal , at which price
Examples of questions to
manufacturers
• Impact of door movement in or out ?
• Communication tools : Can pre wiring be compatible ?
• advertising panels, hammers for breaking windows seem
easy to deal with
• Seat, floor and external design sound more complicated
Need for « COMPROmise » between
partners
Part 3: Next steps
• Draft specifications
• Market the idea at each local level by proposing to
put into operation the first « european common
bus »,
• Find the legal way to be able to purchase
together