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Tape Subject Log
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Conversation No. 486-1
Date: April 22, 1971
Time: 9:41 am - 10:41 am
Location: Oval Office
The President met with Henry A. Kissinger.
Instruction to Kissinger
-Forthcoming telephone call to William P. Rogers
Vietnam
-Veterans
-News
President's People's Republic of China [PRC] Initiative
-Credit
-State Department
-Reaction
Kissinger's Schedule
-Berlin
PRC Initiative
-Melvin R. Laird
-Rogers
-State Department
-United Nations [UN] representation issue
-Lack of initiative or knowledge
-Communications with PRC
-Nicolae Ceausescu
-Mohammad Yahya Khan
Berlin Negotiations
-Union of Soviet Socialist Republics [USSR]
-Technical Issue
-Timing
PRC Initiative
-Presidents initiative
-Publicity
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-John A. Scali
-Press
-State Department
-Background
-Tactics
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-State Department
-Briefing paper
-Condominium
-Rogers
-Ceausescu
-Message from Peking
-Yahya Khan
-Chou En-lai
-Taiwan
-State Department
-National Security Council [NSC]
-Kissinger's Role
-Robert Pierpoint
-Marvin L. Kalb
-Columbia Broadcasting System [CBS]
-State Department
-Credit
-Laos
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[Transcript #1: A transcript of the following portion of this conversation was prepared under
court order from December 1978 through March 1979 for Special Access 8, Ronald V. Dellums,
et al. v. James M. Powell, et al., No. 71-2271. The National Archives and Records
Administration produced this transcript. The National Archives does not guarantee its
accuracy.]
[End of transcript]
Conv. No. 486-1 (cont.)
H.R. (Bob) Haldeman was present at an unknown time after 9:41 am
Scali
-President's role
-John Foster Dulles
PRC initiative
-Kissinger
-State Department
-Defense Department
-Presidents initiative
-Scali
-Rogers
-Haldemans possible telephone call
-CBS
-State Department
-Rogers
-UN representation
-Rogers
-Llewellyn E. ("Tommy") Thompson
-Letter
-Opposition to initiative
-Position publication
-Union of Soviet Socialist Republic [USSR]
-Rogers
-Foreign Service
-Thompson
-Letter
-Possible publication
-Kissinger's role
-Scalis role
-Publicity
-Kissinger
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Tape Subject Log
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-President's role
-Kissinger's role
-Presidents list
-John Osborne
-Donald Oberdorfer, Jr.
-Hugh S. Sidey Conv. No. 486-1 (cont.)
-President's Initiatives
[Transcript #2: A transcript of the following portion of this conversation was prepared under
court order from December 1978 through March 1979 for Special Access 8, Ronald V. Dellums,
et al. v. James M. Powell, et al., No. 71-2271. The National Archives and Records
Administration produced this transcript. The National Archives does not guarantee its
accuracy.]
[End of transcript]
Presidents speech at Republican Governors Conference, Williamsburg, Virginia, April 19,
1971
-Welfare theme
Welfare
-Workers
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-Welfare mothers
-Work
-Children
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Demonstrations
-Television
[Transcript #3: A transcript of the following portion of this conversation was prepared under
court order from December 1978 through March 1979 for Special Access 8, Ronald V. Dellums,
et al. v. James M. Powell, et al., No. 71-2271. The National Archives and Records
guarantee its
Administration produced this transcript. The National Archives does notConv. No. 486-1 (cont.)
accuracy.]
[End of transcript]
Administration policies
-PRC initiative
-Importance
-Graham B. Steenhoven
-Appearance on television, April 21, 1971
-Style
-Questions
-Background
PRC initiative
-Calls to Kissinger
-Importance
-Elections
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PRC
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The President's schedule
-Kissinger's forthcoming call to Laird
-Camp Pendleton, California
-First Marine Division
-Laird
-Scali
-Air Force One
-Press Conv. No. 486-1 (cont.)
Kissinger's schedule
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-Trip to Europe
-Itinerary
-Edward R. G. Heath
-Cabinet Secretary
-Letter to the President
-Paris
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[Duration: 8s ]
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-Paris
-Arthur K. Watson
-Dinner
Conv. No. 486-1 (cont.)
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-Timing
-Anatoliy F. Dobrynin
[Transcript #4: A transcript of the following portion of this conversation was prepared under
court order from December 1978 through March 1979 for Special Access 8, Ronald V. Dellums,
et al. v. James M. Powell, et al., No. 71-2271. The National Archives and Records
Administration produced this transcript. The National Archives does not guarantee its
accuracy.]
[End of transcript]
The President's foreign policy initiatives
-Cambodia
-Laos
-North Vietnam
-PRC
-USSR
The President's schedule
-Meeting with Republican Congressional leaders
-John W. Byrnes
Robert J. Dole and Anne Armstrong entered and Kissinger left at 10:07 am; the White House
photographer was present at the beginning of the meeting
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Greetings
Armstrong's schedule
Photo session
-Pictures
-Distribution Conv. No. 486-1 (cont.)
Introductions
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Federal government
-Removals
-Agencies
-Discipline
Dole's visit to New York, April 21, 1971
-Support for the President on economy
-George Champion, Jr.
-Elmer H. Bobst
Post-Vietnam
-President's meeting with Senators
-Japan and Germany
Bobst
-Condition
Dole's speech
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-Noel C. Koch
-Bullock Forum
-Polls
-Koch
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Conv. No. 486-1 (cont.)
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Vietnam
-Difficulty
-Outlook
-Press
-John F. Kennedy and Lyndon B. Johnson
-Women
-Concerns
-Draft
-Prisoners of War [POWs]
Welfare
The President's remarks at Republican Governors' Conference, Williamsburg, Virginia,
April 19, 1971
-Work
-Personal anecdotes
-President's position
-Charity
-Guaranteed income
-Administration's program
-Work
-Alternative
-Department of Health, Education and Welfare's [HEW] position
-Assistance
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Tape Subject Log
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-Food stamps
-Presidents position
-Welfare children
-Poverty
-Self-help
-Self-development
-Children
-First step Conv. No. 486-1 (cont.)
-Swimming
-Work
-President's meeting with Rio Grande High School students, April 16, 1971
-Mexican children
-Work
-Responsibility
-Self-reliance and self-respect
-Disabilities
-Charity
-Capacity for work
-Dole's activities regarding helping the handicapped
-Self-help
-Haldeman's conversation with Kissinger
-Work
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-Republican Governors Conference
-Rio Grande High School
-Republican Governors Conference
-Background of question
-Menial jobs
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Conv. No. 486-1 (cont.)
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-Society
[Transcript #5: A transcript of the following portion of this conversation was prepared under
court order from December 1978 through March 1979 for Special Access 8, Ronald V. Dellums,
et al. v. James M. Powell, et al., No. 71-2271. The National Archives and Records
Administration produced this transcript. The National Archives does not guarantee its
accuracy.]
[End of transcript]
The President's meeting with Rio Grande High School students
-Patsy Ramirez
-Work and activities
-Earnings
-Texan tamales
-California tamales
-Cost
-Earnings
-Menial tasks
-Car washes
-Orange trees
-Mexicans
-Appearance
-Boys and girls
-Number
-Principal
The President's meetings with youth groups
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Youth
-Work
-Stimulation
-Challenges
-Problem
-Indulgence
-Denials Conv. No. 486-1 (cont.)
-Automobiles
-Trips to Europe
-Responsibility
-Blaming others for inadequacies
Administration programs
-End of Vietnam War
-Prospects
-Environment
-Welfare
-Revenue sharing
-Health
-Blacks and minorities
-Poor
Objects of blame
-College professors
-Draft evaders
-Preachers
-Quakers
-Avoidance of draft
Problems
-Vietnam War
-Environment
-Races
Children
-Self-analysis
-Indulgence by patents
-Pampering
-Discipline
-Escapism
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Tape Subject Log
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Nation
-Mood
-Supersonic Transport [SST]
-Priorities
-Ghettos
-Defense
-Analogy to individual
-Selfishness Conv. No. 486-1 (cont.)
-Destiny
-General Charles A. J. M. deGaulle
-Policies
-Presidents view
-Quoted
-Great enterprises
-US historical enterprises
-Exploration of the West
-War
-Space
-Moon landing
-Prospects
-Computerization
-Exploration of unknown
-Youth
-Unselfishness
-Peace Corps
-Volunteers In Service To America [VISTA]
-Activities against government
-Idealism
-View of nation's role
-Leadership in world
-Role of US in world
-Historical powers
-British, French, Spanish
Stephen B. Bull entered at an unknown time after 10:07 am
The President's schedule
Bull left at an unknown time before 10:40 am
Youth
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-Upper middle class
-Problems
-Parents
-Compassion
-Understanding
-Way to greatness
Nation Conv. No. 486-1 (cont.)
-Guaranteed income
-Work
-Welfare program
-Work
-Education for children
-Children
-Responsibility
-National character and individual character
-Rich societies
-Soft societies
US position in world
-Example of Japan and Germany
-World War II
-Development
-Difficulties
-Character
US
-General condition
Youth
-College tuition loans
-President's position
-HEW
National character
-Testing
-Home
-Mothers
-Churches
-Institutions in disrepair
Children and youth
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-Womens role
-Home
-Communities
-Church
-Permissiveness
-Self evaluation
-Responsibility
-Vietnam War Conv. No. 486-1 (cont.)
Conv. No. 486-1 (cont.)
-Fathers
-Environment
-System
-College
-President's education
-College and high school career
-Teachers
-Evaluation
Nation
-Need for optimism
-Media
-Radio, television, newspapers
-Poverty
-Compared with world
-US foreign policy
-American people
Presentation of gifts
-Cufflinks
-Paper weight
Need for optimism
Dole's meeting with unknown person
Dole and Armstrong left at 10:40 am
Armstrong
-Compared with Patricia R. Hitt
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Haldeman left at 10:41 am
Conversation No. 486-2
Date: April 22, 1971
Time: 10:41 am - 12:01 pm
Location: Oval Office
The President met with Gerald R. Ford, John W. Byrnes, Elliot L. Richardson, Clark MacGregor,
Kenneth R. Cole, and John R. Price, Jr.
Greetings
[General conversation]
-MacGregor
-Green Bay Packers
-Phil Bengsten
Stephen B. Bull entered at an unknown time after 10:41 am
The President's schedule
-John B. Connally
-Location
Bull left at an unknown time before 11:26 am
The President's remarks at Republican Governors' Conference, Williamsburg, Virginia,
April 19, 1971
-Welfare
Welfare bill
-Proposed National health Insurance Standards Act
-Difficulties
-Congress
-Committee action
-Calendar
-Liberals and conservatives
-Support
-Senate
-Anticipated votes
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-Prospects
-President's conversation with Richardson
-Administration's dilemma
-Unemployment
-Ronald W. Reagan
-Work requirements
-Reagan
-MacGregor's conversation with Wilbur D. Mills
-Presidents Wiliamsburg speech
-Impact on H.R. 1 vote
-Prospective vote
-Timing
-Rules Committee
-Hearings
-Calendar
Manolo Sanchez entered at an unknown time after 10:41 am
Refreshments
Sanchez left at an unknown time before 11:26 am
Senate Finance Committee
-Forthcoming hearings, April 26, 1971
-Edward M. (Ted) Kennedy
-Russell B. Long
-Unknown person
-Kennedy hearings
-Peter H. Dominick and Kennedy
-Health crisis
-Health legislation hearings
-Timing
-Long
-Wallace F. Bennett
-Kennedy hearings
-Pending legislation
-Family health insurance
-Initiation
-House
Revenue sharing
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-Mills
-Timing
-Criticism of administration policies
-John V. Lindsay and Reagan
-Health insurance bill
-Economic aspect
-Political aspect
-Burden on employers Conv. No. 486-2 (cont.)
-Contribution by employees
-Effect on large employers
-Economic effect on marginal workers and employers
-Responsibility on employers
-Minimum wage
-Unemployment compensation
-Social Security
-Economic and political problem
-Effect on small businesses
-Marginal employers
-Byrnes's conversation with Richardson
-Employer responsibility
-Treatment of middle tier
-Marginal workers
-Government-payed medical assistance
-Medicaid
-Medicall indigent
-Employers of marginal workers
-Marginal workers
-Costs
-Numbers
-Social Security
-Small business
-Wages
-Department of Health, Education and Welfare [HEW] study
-Earnings
-Welfare
-Social Security
-Earnings
-Minimum wage
-Effect on job opportunities
-Employer's responsibility
-Political aspects
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-Effect on small employer
-Minimum wage
-Exempt workers
-Numbers
-Mills' views
-Two-dollar minimum wage proposal
-Retail services establishment
-Exemption Conv. No. 486-2 (cont.)
-Farm labor
-President's program
-Coverage
-Possible committee action
-Minimum wage
-Exemptions
-Retail establishments
-Administrative, professional employees
-Teachers
-Salesmen
-Employees of retail services establishments
-Administration's program
-Mills' views
-Exemptions
-Small businesses
-Criticism of program
-Three tiers
-Federal Government responsibilities
-Medicare, medicaid
-Employers
-Employees
-Smaller employers
-Tiers
-Government
-Employers
-Employees
-Employers
-Deductions of costs
-Taxes
The President's meeting with motion picture producers, April 5, 1971
-Taft Schreiber
-Tax depreciation
-Other participants
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-Views
Health insurance bill
-Marginal employers
-Income
-Tax deductions
-Contributions
-Medical care, insurance Conv. No. 486-2 (cont.)
-Costs
-Cost
-Projections
-Government employees plans
-Projections
-Insurance companies
-Small business
-Thomas S. Kleppe
-Maurice H. Stans
-Cutbacks
-Employers of domestic workers
-Health insurance
-Twenty-hour work week
-Women
-Children
-Welfare
-Coverage
-Part-time employees
-Economic and political aspects
-Mills
-Burden by the President
-Agricultural workers
-Middle America
-Support for Republicans
-Grocery store
-Dress shop
-Drug store
-Motel
-Cleaning ladies
-Minimum wage
-Free enterprise
-Third tier
-Federal government participation
-Contribution of employer and employees
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-Ratio
-California plans
-Burden on employer, employee, government
-Economic impact
-Changes in minimum wage
-Arthur F. Burns study
-Reduction of job opportunities
-Effect on small employer Conv. No. 486-2 (cont.)
-Administration's welfare program
-Low-skilled jobs
-Burden on employers
-Responsibilities of government
-Medicare, welfare program
-Older people
-Medicaid
-Low-income groups
-Burden on employers
-Committee's possible action
-Burden on employers
-Minimum wage
-Social Security
-Unemployment compensation
-Approach to bill
-Problem
-Possible solutions
-Alternatives
-Cost
-Eligibility for subsidies
-Small employers
-Gross income
-Number of employees
-Coverage
-Subsidies
-Subsidies
-Problems
-Administration's position
-Commerce Department
-Small Business Administration [SBA]
-Small business representatives
-Administration's program
-Pressures to liberalize
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-Family health insurance
-Childless couples
-Single adults
-Expand
-Benefits package
-Dental care for children
-Long-term savings
-Dental care Conv. No. 486-2 (cont.)
-Costs
-Supply problem
-Medicare and Medicaid
-Shortage of doctors
-Health care facilities
-President's proposals
-Dental care
-Private practices
-Dentists
-Work
-Cleaning of teeth
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-Money
-Doctors
-Pressures on administration
-Cost of medical insurance
-Kennedy proposal
-Administration's program
-HEW
-Political aspect
-Congress
-Burden on small business
-Political issue
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Tape Subject Log
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-Possible administration strategy
-Family health insurance plan
-Welfare, unemployment
-Issues
-Coverage, benefits
-Administration's perspective
-Small business
-Costs Conv. No. 486-2 (cont.)
-Concessions
-Effective date
-Benefits, costs ratio
-Conversations with representatives
-Subsidy approach
-Richardson's conversations
-Main Street America
-Political impact
-Tax
-Lobbyists
-Execution of plan
-Cost
-Bill
-Introduction
-Part-time employees
-Motels
-Competing claims
-Administration concerns
-Senate hearings
-Political impact
-Business associations
-National Federation of Independent Business [NFIB]
-National Business league
-National Small Business Association
-Association of Small Business Investment Companies
-Subsidy device
-Cost considerations
-President's possible position
-Small businessmen
-Possible administration amendment
-Subsidy
-Administrative complexity
-Cost
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-Subsidy
-Possible administration bill
-Effect on Main Street
-Amendment
-Credit
-Byrnes
-Introduction
-Mills Conv. No. 486-2 (cont.)
-Mills
-Possible administration amendment
-Connally
-Kleppe
-Stans
-Price
-MacGregor
-Bill
-Introduction
-Byrnes
-Possible administration bill
-Republican committee meeting [Committee on Ways and Means]
-Richardson
-John G. Veneman
-President's program
-General fund
-Social security
-Byrnes
-Healthcare package
-Minimum wage, unemployment compensation, social security
-Burden on employers
-Byrnes
-Political, economic aspects
-Byrnes
-Republican committee members
-Byrnes' conversations with MacGregor and Richardson
-Possible administration program
-Insurance burden
-Main Street
-Wall Street, Park Avenue
The President's schedule
-Connally
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Health insurance bill
-Ways and Means Committee
-Complexion
-Republican members
-Brynes
-Democrats
-Chairman [Mills]
-Vote Conv. No. 486-2 (cont.)
-Prospects
-Mills
-Support for small business
-Background
-Bill
-Version
-Alternatives
-Problems
-Possible action
-President's possible position
-Alternatives
-Richardson's conversations with small businessmen
-President's possible position
-Legislation
-Possible administration bill
-Administration's position
-Senate
-Bennett
-Ford's and Brynes's possible initiatives
-Possible House, Senate actions
-Conference
-Possible Republican bill
-Provisions
-Exemptions for small business
-Political aspect
Connally entered at 11:26 am
Greetings
The President's schedule
-Meeting with Republican Congressional leaders
Health insurance bill
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-Administration bill in Senate
-Bennett's role
-Administration bill in House
-Brynes's and Ford's view
-Special treatment for small business
-Exemptions
-Minimum wage
-Unemployment insurance Conv. No. 486-2 (cont.)
-Possible administration alternative
-Brynes's position
-Main Street businesses
-Hiring of unemployables
-Burden
-Way and Means Committee
-Possible action
-Mills
-Father
-Independent grocer
-President's father
-Effect on small businessmen
-Number effected
-Political problem
-Difficulties for administration
-Cost
-Possible government program
-Other proposals
-Cost
-Coverage
-Contact lenses
-Dental care
-Children
-Older people
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-Consensus
-Brynes' view
-Ford's view
-Possible administration bill in the House
-Exemptions for small businesses Conv. No. 486-2 (cont.)
-Alternative proposals
-Cost
-Possible House action
-Brynes' view
-Administration's bill
-Mills
-Effects on small businessmen
-Political problem for administration
-Effects on small businessmen
-Richardson's view
-Brynes's view
-Administration's position
-Administration bill
-Timing
-Connallys view
-Costs of health bills
-Exemptions for small businessmen
-Cost
-Political impact
-Administration's constituency
-President's position
-Health crisis
-National health insurance
-Medical care
-Administration's bill
-Benefits
-Private insurance companies
-Problem
-Supply
-Kennedy approach
-Free medicine
-Dental care
-Plastic surgery
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-Plastic surgery
-Appeal to women
-Cost
-Subsidy for employers
-Payments for insurance premiums
-Richardson's conversations
-Chambers of Commerce
-National Association of Manufacturers [NAM] Conv. No. 486-2 (cont.)
-Small business groups
-Business views regarding taxes
-Subsidies
-Burden on small businessmen
-Possible employer/employee participation
-Cost of insurance policies
-Effect on small businesses
-General Motors [GM]
-Possible administration amendment
-Brynes's role regarding small businessmen
-Possible administration amendment
-Timing
-Brynes's initiative in House
-Senate bill
-Administration Congressional strategy
-Hearings
-Ways and Means Committee
-Differences in Committee
-Problem for administration
-Administration bill
-Fords possible role
-Effects on small businessmen
-Richardson
School integration in North and South
-Administration's position
Health insurance bill
-Differences in House bills
-Brynes, Ford
-Political problem
-Connally's view
-Cost
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-Administration's possible program
-House bill
-Accommodation of competing claims
-Resolution
-Bennett's bill
-President's meeting with Richardson, Brynes, Ford
-President's position regarding House bill
-Hearings Conv. No. 486-2 (cont.)
-Ways and Means Committee
-Bennett's possible reaction
-Alternate House bill
-President's options
-Kennedy
-Political impact
-Coverage
-Burden on employers
-Exemption of coverage
-Coverage
-Financing
-Possible administration position
-Connally
-Consultative process
-Richardson's possible alternative proposals
-Bennett
-Variant
-Possible Republican bill in House
-Timing
-Alternative language
-Brynes
-Alternatives
-Timing
-Richardson
-Byrnes
-Richardson's and Byrnes's possible activities
-Mechanics
-Connally's cost analysis
-Additional costs
-Medicaid costs
-Burden on small employers
-Significance
-Marginal employer
-Work for welfare recipients
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 12/11)
-Creation of job opportunities
-HEW
-Richardson
-Possible alternate cost proposal
-Prospects
Welfare
-Brynes' conversation with Mills Conv. No. 486-2 (cont.)
-President's remarks at Williamsburg Republican Governors'
Conference
Presentation of gifts
-Paper weights
-Golf balls
School integration in North and South
-Richardson's role
-Case-by-case basis
-Speech, April 21, 1971
-Reception
-Content
[General conversation]
Ronald L. Ziegler entered at 11:50 am and Ford, Byrnes, Richardson, MacGregor, Cole, and
Price left at 11:51 am
The President's schedule
Fred Maroon and Stan Wayman entered at 11:52 am
-Upcoming photo session
-President and Connally
-Location
-Rose Garden
Ziegler, Maroon and Wayman left at an unknown time before 12:01 pm
President's meeting with Texas A&M Singing Cadets, April 18, 1971
-Number
-Joe Frazier
-Family
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 12/11)
-Carl W. Haley
-Duke University
-Singing
-Appearance
-Vietnam veterans
-Support for the President
-[Dwight] David Eisenhower II's remarks
-Size of Texas A&M Conv. No. 486-2 (cont.)
-Compared to Harvard Univerity, Yale University, Princeton University
-Texas A&M
-World War II officers
-West Point
-President
-James Earl Rudder
-Rudder
-World War II service
-Anzio
-General Omar N. Bradley
-Songs
-"Battle Hymn of the Republic"
-"How Great Thou Art"
-Idanell (Nellie) Connally
-Possible reaction
-Appearance on "Mike Douglas Show"
Ziegler, Maroon and Wayman entered at an unknown time after 11:52 am
The President's schedule
-Photos
-Location
-Connally
-Press
Photo session
-Connally's possible meeting with Wayman
[General conversation]
Unknown [McCalls?] story
-Timing of release
-Connallys forthcoming meeting with Hedley W. Donovan
32
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 12/11)
-Story
-Photos
-Timing
The President's schedule
-Photos
-Rose Garden
Conv. No. 486-2 (cont.)
The President's meeting with Texas A&M Singing Cadets
The President's schedule
-Photos
-Timing
The President, Connally, Ziegler, Maroon, and Wayman left at 12:01 pm
Conversation No. 486-3
Date: April 22, 1971
Time: 12:01 pm - 1:43 pm
Location: Oval Office
The President met with John B. Connally, Jr.
[This recording began at an unknown time while the conversation was in progress]
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[Duration: 1m 46s ]
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Economy
-Mortgage rates
33
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 12/11)
-Decrease
-Stock market
-Rise
-Robert J. Doles speech in New York City, April 21, 1971
-Public confidence
-Gross National Product [GNP]
-Retail sales
-Automobile sales Conv. No. 486-3 (cont.)
-Housing starts
-Consumer Price Index [CPI]
-Rise
-Quarter
-Cooling
-Administration policy
-President's conversation with Arthur F. Burns
-Tax reduction
-Administration policy
-Council of Economic Advisors [CEA]
-Views
-Expertise
-First National City Bank, New York
-Model
-Level
-Unemployment rate
-Inflation
-Welfare
-President's remarks at Republican Governors' Conference, Williamsburg, April
19, 1971
-Work requirements
-Unemployment rate
-Problem
-Teenage
-Quarter
-Adult categories
-Administration policy
-Shultz
-Confidence
-Growth
-Administration policy
-Staying the course
-Wilbur D. Mills' conversation with Charles E. Walker
34
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 12/11)
-Investment tax credits
-Timing
-Burns
-Visit to Europe
-Tax credits
-Federal Reserve Board [FRB]
-Possible meeting
-Shultz and Paul W. McCracken Conv. No. 486-3 (cont.)
-Schedule
-Central bankers
-Burns' forthcoming report to the President
-Views
-Confidence factor
-National psychology
-Mood
-Vietnam
-End of war
Lockheed and Rolls Royce case
-Burns
-Negotiations
-Agreement
-Bank loans
-Amount
-Airlines
-President's possible decision
-Negotiations
-Timing
-Meetings
-Progress
-Relations
-Understanding
-Agreement
-Difficulties
-Rolls Royce's position refinancing
-Assurances regarding Lockheed
-Banks
-Airlines position
-Terms
-British
-Cost of engines
35
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 12/11)
-Position
-Money
-Airlines' view regarding Rolls Royce
-Survival
-Great Britain
-Edward R.G. Heath
-Financing
-Method Conv. No. 486-3 (cont.)
-Engine
-Meetings of April 20, 1971
-Eastern Airlines
-Charles C. Tillinghast, Jr.
-Floyd D. Hall
-Turner [Forename unknown]
-Hoss [sp?] [Forename unknown]
-Delta Airlines
-Charles H. Dolson
-Frank F. Davis
-William L. Hoffman
-Length
-Agreement
-Banks
-Loans
-Collateral
-Possible legislation
-Lockheed
-Settlement
-US government
-Cheyenne helicopter
-Defense Department
-Ship contract
-Lawyers
-Receivership
-Airlines
-Banks
-President's position regarding Congress
-Defense Department
-Lockheed
-Financing
-President's possible decision
-Effect on economy
-Contracts
36
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 12/11)
-Timing
-Deadline
-Administration's possible position
-Conditions
-Charles P. Hess
-Congressional support
-Hall
-Media Conv. No. 486-3 (cont.)
-Congress
-Commitment
-President's possible position
-Conditions
-Congressional guarantees
-Bank loans
-Negotiations
-Lockheed, British government, Rolls-Royce
-Lockheed and airlines
-President's schedule
-Congressional committee
-Treasury Department
-Clark MacGregor
-Banking and Currency Committee
-Interstate and Foreign Commerce Committee
-Banking and Currency Committee
-Relations with Connally's staff
-Wright Patman
-Senate
-William Proxmire
-Alan Cranston
-Supersonic Transport [SST]
-John V. Tunney
-James S. McDonnell
-McDonnell's activities
-McDonnell-Douglas Company
-Lockheed's possible bankruptcy
-Effect on McDonnell-Douglas
-McDonnell-Douglas
-Economic interests
-David Packards position
-L-1011 Employees
37
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 12/11)
Suppliers
-Lockheed's possible bankruptcy
-Symbolism
-Connally, Walker, and James E. Smith's conversations with Congressmen
-President's possible position
-Reaction
-Connally's conversation with Carl B. Albert, April 21, 1971
-Alberts position Conv. No. 486-3 (cont.)
-President's schedule
-Meeting
-Lockheed
-Financial situation
-SST
-Lockheed
-Tradition
-Air Force One
-Presidents flights in 1950's
-Military supplies
-Receivership
-Cost
-President's position
-Effect of possible bankruptcy on economy
H. Ross Perot
-Loan
Lockheed
-Meeting
-President's schedule
-California
-Forthcoming trip on April 30, 1971
-Meeting
Connally's breakfast meeting with Republican Congressmen
-Ways and Means Committee
-Banking and Currency Committee
The President's breakfast meeting with Melvin R. Laird
Connally's forthcoming meeting with Gerald R. Ford
Senate
38
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 12/11)
-Leadership
-Michael J. (Mike) Mansfield
-Hugh Scott
House
-Leadership
-Democrats
-[Thomas] Hale Boggs Conv. No. 486-3 (cont.)
-Albert
-John W. McCormack
-Mills
-George H. Mahon
-Prospects
-Albert
-Activities
-Health
-Responsibilities
-Speaker
-Performance
-Republicans
-Ford
-John W. Byrnes
-Frank T. Bow
-Committee members
-Discipline
-Compare with Black caucus
-Democrats
-Disarray
-Leadership
Senate
-Robert A. Taft, Sr.
-Republicans
House
-Republicans
-Ford
-Discipline
-Democrats
-Caucus, April 21, 1971
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Tape Subject Log
(rev. 12/11)
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[Duration: 7s ]
Conv. No. 486-3 (cont.)
END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 15
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-Quorum
-Liberals
-Vietnam
-Albert
-Mills
-Republicans
-Ford
-Connally's meeting
-Ways and Means Committee members
Congress
-Public reaction
-Performance
-Democrats
-Senate
-John L. McClellan
-John C. Stennis
-Richard B. Russell
-David H. Gambrell
-Spessard L. Holland
-Lawton M. Chiles, Jr.
-Democrats
-James O. Eastland
-Robert C. Byrd
-Republicans
-Roman L. Hruska
-Carl T. Curtis
-Unknown person
-James Abourezk [?]
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 12/11)
-House
-Republicans
-Ford
-Committee members
-Brynes
-Bow
-Leslie C. Arends
-Mahon Conv. No. 486-3 (cont.)
-Democrats
-Mahon
-Qualifications
-Speaker of the House
-Chairman
-Appropriations Committee
State Department
-Connally's relations
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[Duration: 2m 15s ]
PERU
END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 2
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Turkey
-Government
-Importance
-State Department
-William P. Rogers
-Connally's previous conversation with John N. (Jack) Irwin, II
-Treasury Department
-Opium
-US position
41
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 12/11)
-Possible ban on cultivation
-Timing
-Negotiations
-President's instructions to Ambassador William J. Handley
-Domestic problem for US
-US position
-US aid
Conv. No. 486-3 (cont.)
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[National Security]
[Duration: 3s ]
TURKEY
END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 16
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-Connally's letter to Rogers
-Opium
-Value
-Growth
-Negotiations
-Opium
-Elimination
-Growth
-US position
US-French Relations
Japan
-State Department
-Textiles
-Dumping
42
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 12/11)
-Burlington Mills
-Trade Agreement
-Imports
-State Department
-Reaction
-David M. Kennedy
-Trip
-Eugene T. Rossides call to Anthony J. Jurich Conv. No. 486-3 (cont.)
-Administrations position
-Kennedy
-Manila
-US position
-Sanctions
-State Department
-Negotiations
-Kennedy
-Sanctions
-Kennedy
-Negotiations
-Treasury Department
-Sanctions
-Dumping
-State Department
-Connally's message to Kennedy
-Armin H. Meyer
-Negotiations
-Meyer
-President's Position
-Connally's Activities
Possible cabinet appointments
-Opportunity
-H.R. (Bob) Haldeman
-John N. Mitchell
-Role
-Cabinet
-President's previous conversation with Haldeman
-Executive Office Building [EOB]
-Mitchell
-Location
-State, Defense
43
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 12/11)
-Changes
-Timing
Haldeman entered at 12:30 pm
-State and Defense Departments
-Attorney General
-Timing Conv. No. 486-3 (cont.)
-Mitchell
-Successor
-Richard G. Kleindienst
-Kleindienst
-Qualifications
-Rogers C.B. Morton
-Role
-George W. Romney
-Tenure
-Department of Housing and Urban Development [HUD]
-Blacks
-John A. Volpe
-Salesmanship
-Issues
-Emotion
-Jack J. Valenti
-Meeting with the President, April 23, 1971
The President's schedule
-Meetings with Cabinet officials
-Connally
-Elliot L. Richardson
-Mitchell
-Laird
-Rogers
-Reaction
-Morton
-Romney
-Volpe
Possible Cabinet Appointments
-Richardson
-Romney
-Richardson
44
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 12/11)
-Department of Health, Education, and Welfare [HEW]
[Transciprt #1: A transcript of the following portion of this conversation was prepared under
court order from December 1978 through March 1979 for Special Access 8, Ronald V. Dellums,
et al. v. James M. Powell, et al., No. 71-2271. The National Archives and Records
Administration produced this transcript. The National Archives does not guarantee its
accuracy.]
Conv. No. 486-3 (cont.)
[End of transcript]
-Qualifications
-Salesmanship
-Management skills
-HEW
-Programs
-Welfare, education, health
-Departmentt of Commerce
-Maurice H. Stans
-Need for salesmanship
-Stans
-Robert H. Finch
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[Personal Returnable]
[Duration: 24s ]
END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 3
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Possible Cabinet appointments
-Commerce
-Salesmanship
-Statistics
-Salesmanship on economy
-Shultz
-McCracken
45
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 12/11)
-Candidates
-Commerce Department
-Need for pro-business attitude
-Salesmanship
-Buoyancy
-Ability to attack
-Businessman
-Peter G. Peterson Conv. No. 486-3 (cont.)
-Qualifications
-Appearance
-Salesmanship
-Army Secretary
-Belton Kleberg (B.K.) Johnson
-Robert J. Kleberg, Jr.
-Qualifications
-Wife
-Age
-Candidates
-Stanley R. Resor
-Departure
-Timing
-Laird
-Johnson
-Service record
-Previous conversation with Connally
-Loyalty
-My Lai cases
-Courage
-Cornell University and Stanford University
-Frank Zogg [sp?]
-William P. Clements, Jr.
-Walter Annenberg
-Texas families
-Intermarriages
-Vanderbilts and Whitneys
Possible Cabinet appointments
-Johnson
-Businessman
-Peterson
-Agriculture Secretary
46
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 12/11)
-Farmers
-Ezra Taft Benson
-Orville L. Freeman
-Clifford M. Hardin
-Qualities
-Wife
-Salesmanship
-Job offer Conv. No. 486-3 (cont.)
-Purdue University
-Alumnus
-Presidency
-Possible acceptance
-Loyalty to the President
-Signal
Military manpower bill
-Senate Armed Services Committee
-Vote
-Draft extension
-President's position
Possible Cabinet appointments
-Agriculture Secretary
-Hardin
-Academic credentials
-Requirements
-Candidates
-Fighter for administration
-Midwest, plains states
-Background
-Farmer
-Wealth
-Success
-Opportunity
-Colorado
-Groups
-John A. Love
-Background
-American National Cattlemen's Association
-Past presidents
-Montfort [Forname unknown]
-[Unintelligible name]
47
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 12/11)
-Nelson [Forename unknown]
-Colorado, Wyoming
-Midwest
-Mountain states
-Colorado and Wyoming
-George A. Smathers
-Ed Carver [?]
-Tobacco Conv. No. 486-3 (cont.)
-Border States
-Kentucky
-Tennessee
-Missouri
-Breeding associations
-Farm bureaus
-Granges
-Cattlemen
-Support for administration
-William D. Farr
Office of Emergency Preparedness [OEP]
-National Security Council [NSC]
-Connally
-Mitchell
-George A. Lincoln
-Salesmanship
-Removal
-Disasters
-Public relations
-Texas drought
-California earthquake
-Public relations
-Job requirements
-NSC
-Statutory member
-Candidates
-[David] Kenneth Rush
-Berlin negotiations
-Qualifications
-Background
-Union-Carbide
-Gen. Leonard F. Chapman
-Possible earlier appointment
48
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 12/11)
-Joint Chiefs of Staff [JCS]
-Age
-Marine Corps commandent
-Speeches for administration
-Politics
-Appearance
-Speech
-Salesmanship Conv. No. 486-3 (cont.)
-Public relations
-Importance
-Admiral George W. Anderson, Jr.
-Appearance
-Qualifications
-Ambassador to Portugal
-Rush
-Chapman
-Anderson
-Administration spokesman
-Previous relationship with Connally
-Secretary of Navy
-Arleigh Burke
-Articulation
-Hardliner
-NSC
-Vice President Spiro T. Agnew
-Daughter
-David M. Abshire
-State Department
-Agriculture Department
-Commerce Department
-Labor Department
-James D. Hodgson
-Spokesman
-HUD and HEW Departments
-Attorney General
-Transportation Department
-Volpe
-Romney
-Volpe
-Ambassador to Italy
-Performance
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 12/11)
The President's schedule
-Social engagements
-Connally and Idanell (Nellie) Connally
-Religious services at White House
-Texas A & M University choir
-Benefits
-Sermon
Conv. No. 486-3 (cont.)
Camp David
-Cabinet use
-Connally
-Golf
-Volpe
Sequoia
-Remodeling
-Availability
-Dinner
-Small groups
-Trips
-Cabinet use
-Connally
Connally left at 1:08 pm
Possible Cabinet appointments
-Discussion
-Value
-Peterson
-Present assignment
-Staffer
-Corporate presidents
-Likely performance
-Staffer
-Possible appointment as Commerce Secretary
-Salesman
-Economy
-International affairs
-Present assignment
-Connally's view
50
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 12/11)
Manolo Sanchez entered at an unknown time after 1:08 pm
The President's schedule
-Executive Office Building [EOB]
Sanchez left at an unknown time before 1:43 pm
Possible appointments Conv. No. 486-3 (cont.)
-OEP
-Candidates
-Anderson
-Henry A. Kissinger
-Qualifications
-Administration spokesman
-Hardliner
-National defense
-Rogers and Laird
-Daughter
-Abshire
-Rush
-Peterson
-Anderson
-Agriculture Secretary
-Hardin
-Haldeman and Rogers
-John C. Whitaker
-President's possible action
-Haldeman's possible conversation with Rogers
-Reassignment
-1972 campaign
-Tenure
People's Republic of China [PRC] initiative
-Haldeman's previous conversation with Rogers
-Kissinger
-Rogers's forthcoming press conference
-President's statement
-State Department role
-Rogers
-Press release
-President's press release
-NSC
51
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 12/11)
-Under secretarys committee
-State Department
-NSC
-Press story
-Rogers's call to Haldeman
-Kissinger
-NSC
-President's statement Conv. No. 486-3 (cont.)
-Phrasing
-Rogers call to Haldeman
-Foreign Service
-Support of the President
-Charles W. Yost
-State Department
-Support of the President
-Rogers role
-NSC
-Under secretarys committee
-State Department
-Marshall Green
-Press
-Marvin L. Kalb
-Rogers's forthcoming press conference
-Kissinger
-NSC role
-NSC
-Under secretary's committee
-Haldeman's previous conversation with Rogers
-Under secretarys committee
-State Department
-Foreign Service
[Transcript #2: A transcript of the following portion of this conversation was prepared under
court order from December 1978 through March 1979 for Special Access 8, Ronald V. Dellums,
et al. v. James M. Powell, et al., No. 71-2271. The National Archives and Records
Administration produced this transcript. The National Archives does not guarantee its
accuracy.]
[End of transcript]
PRC initiative
52
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 12/11)
-Rogers
-President's Statement
-Ronald L. Ziegler
-Kissingers role
The President's schedule
-Lockheed meeting
-Timing Conv. No. 486-3 (cont.)
-California
-Announcement
-News value
-Connally
-Meeting
-Burns and Connally
-Timing
-Rogers
-Meeting, April 22, 1971
-Trip
-Press conference, April 23, 1971
-Trip
-Duration
PRC initiative
-Public statement
-Kissinger
-State
-NSC
-President's Role
-Rogers
Henry Cebot Lodge Commission
-Lodge
-Possible meeting with the President
-Report
-United Nations [UN] representation
-PRC
-Taiwan
-Press
-Congress
-Yost
-Composition
-Report
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 12/11)
-Meeting with the President
PRC initiative
-Kissinger
-President's Statement
-NSC
-Under secretary's Committee
-State Department Conv. No. 486-3 (cont.)
-Rogers
-Kissinger
-State Department
-Press Release
The President's schedule
-Arthur S. Flemming
-Conference on aging
-California
-Radio
-Farm speech
-Farm speech
-Salute to Agriculture
-Timing
Lockheed
-Decision
The President's schedule
-California
-PRC
-"Experts"
PRC initiative
-President's position
-John A. Scali
-US relations
-Publicity
-"China scholars"
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Tape Subject Log
(rev. 12/11)
[Personal Returnable]
[Duration: 2m 28s ]
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Conv. No. 486-3 (cont.)
Possible appointments
-Volpe
-Connally's view
-Instructions for Kissinger
-Italy
-Ambassador
-Italy
-Volpe
-Rogers
-[Unintelligible Name]
-Possible Italian-American appointees
-Unknown doctor
-Shultz and John D. Ehrlichman
-Lincoln
-Qualifications
-Mitchell's view
-Transportation Department
-Salesmanship
-Airlines
-Volpe
-Ambassador to Italy
-Graham A. Martin
-Italian representation
-Importance
-Transportation
-Peterson
-Salesman
-Qualifications
-Salesman
-Reassignment
[Transcript #3: A transcript of the following portion of this conversation was prepared under
court order from December 1978 through March 1979 for Special Access 8, Ronald V. Dellums,
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(rev. 12/11)
et al. v. James M. Powell, et al., No. 71-2271. The National Archives and Records
Administration produced this transcript. The National Archives does not guarantee its
accuracy.]
[End of transcript]
Lyndon B. Johnson
-Legacy Conv. No. 486-3 (cont.)
-Vietnam
-Backlog
-Democratic party
-Personality
-Television sets
-Oval Office
-Ticker tape machines
-Briefings
-Press
-Appearance
-Press Secretary
-Briefings
-Recordings
-Use of time
PRC initiative
-Press Release
-Staff
-Scali
-Ziegler
-Kissinger
-NSC
The President and Haldeman left at 1:43 pm
Conversation No. 486-4
Date: April 22, 1971
Time: Unknown between 1:43 pm and 2:38 pm
Location: Oval Office
56
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 12/11)
Unknown people (Secret Service agents) entered
The President's location
-Executive Office Building [EOB]
The unknown persons left at an unknown time before 2:38 pm
Conv. No. 486-3 (cont.)
Conversation No. 486-5
Date: April 22, 1971
Time: 2:40 pm - 3:35 pm
Location: Oval Office
The President met with H.R. (Bob) Haldeman
The President's schedule
-Upcoming meeting with House Republican loyalists
-Daniel Kuykendall
-Additions
-Support for the President
-Senate meeting
-Clark MacGregor
-Size of group
-Ideal number
-Size of group
-Number of meetings
-Satisfying group
-Upcoming meeting with House Republican loyalists
-President's possible role
-President's talk
-Vietnam
-MacGregor
-Mood of unknown meeting
-Upbeat
Agriculture Secretary
-Qualifications
-Salesmanship
57
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 12/11)
-Under secretary
Office of Emergency Preparedness [OEP]
-Director
-John B. Connally view
-Admiral George W. Anderson
-National Security Council [NSC]
-Anderson Conv. No. 486-5 (cont.)
-Appearance
-Qualifications
-William P. Rogers
Ambassadors
-Rogers
-Australia
-Edgar D. Whitcomb
-John N. Mitchell
-Maurice J. Williams
-Whitcomb
-Indiana
The President's previous meeting with Robert J. Dole
-Dole's trip to New York
-George H.W. Bush
Stock market
-Rise
-Outlook
-Value
-Institutions
-Portfolios
-Wealth
-Borrowing power
-Economy
-Theory
[Transcript #1: A transcript of the following portion of this conversation was prepared under
court order from December 1978 through March 1979 for Special Access 8, Ronald V. Dellums,
et al. v. James M. Powell, et al., No. 71-2271. The National Archives and Records
Administration produced this transcript. The National Archives does not guarantee its
accuracy.]
[End of transcript]
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 12/11)
Polls
-Welfare
-Question regarding menial work
-Opposition to President's plan
-Wording of question
-Availability of jobs
-Manual labor Conv. No. 486-5 (cont.)
-President's work plan
-New York and Washington axis
-Menial jobs
The President's forthcoming speech to Chamber of Commerce, April 26, 1971
-Welfare
-William L. Safire
-Instructions
-Guaranteed income
-President's position
-Guaranteed income
-Effect on character
-Patrick J. Buchanan
-Instructions
-1966 speech
-Medicine, housing, jobs
-Safire
The President's remarks at Republican Governors' Conference, Williamsburg
-Welfare
-Previous meeting with Republican House leaders
-John W. Byrnes
-Wilbur D. Mills
-Votes for administration
-Television coverage
-Benefits
-Press
-Leftists
-Reaction
-Menial work
-Guaranteed annual income
-Dole
Polls
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 12/11)
-Welfare
-Question regarding menial work
The President's schedule
-Meeting with Rogers
Rogers's forthcoming trip to Middle East
-Itinerary Conv. No. 486-5 (cont.)
-Cairo
-Beirut
-Tel Aviv
-[Unintelligible]
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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 2
[National Security]
[Duration: 22s ]
ISRAEL
END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 2
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General Alexander M. Haig, Jr.
The President's schedule
-Meeting with Rogers
-Henry A. Kissinger
-Melvin R. Laird
-Kissinger and Laird
60
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 12/11)
Rogers's relations with Kissinger
People's Republic of China [PRC] initiative
-Press release
-Kissinger
-State Department
-National Security Council [NSC] Conv. No. 486-5 (cont.)
-Credit for PRC initiative
-Press
The President's remarks at Republican Governors' Conference, Williamsburg
-Welfare
-Noel C. Koch
-Unknown speech
Unknown person
-Niece
-Julie Nixon Eisenhower
-Spain
-College
-Secret Service agent
-Secretary
-Language capabilities
-Spanish and French
-Anecdote
The President's conversation with Tricia Nixon
-Edward R. F. Coxs comments
-Radicals at Harvard University
-Violence
-Rennie Davis
-Violence
-Reports
The President's forthcoming speech to Chamber of Commerce
-Self-help
-Development of capacity
-Safire
Welfare
61
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 12/11)
-Unknown man's views
Stephen B. Bull entered at an unknown time after 2:40 pm
The President's schedule
-Meeting with Rogers
-Kissinger
-General Alexander M. Haig, Jr. Conv. No. 486-5 (cont.)
-Note-taking
Bull left at an unknown time before 3:22 pm
-Previous meeting with Connally
-Note-taking
Rogers's forthcoming trip
-Kissingers concerns
-Haig
-Note-taking
Sub-Cabinet officials
-Connally
-Need for instruction
-Harry S. Dent
Dent
-Television appearances
-South
-Speeches
-President's programs
-Former Democrats
-Dents speeches
Personalizing program
-Speeches
-Republican efforts
-John D. Ehrlichman
Democrat and Republican parties
-Differences
-Democrats
62
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 12/11)
-Personification
-Republicans
-Process
-Democrats
-Government
-Politicians
-Connally
-Use of personal terms Conv. No. 486-5 (cont.)
Presidents schedule
-Unknown meeting
Speech writing
-Programming
-Selection of source materials
-Example
-Flag
Mrs. Paul W. Heatwole
-Knitting of flag
-Democrat
-Newspaper story
-Silent majority
-Meeting with the President
-John O. Marsh, Jr.
-Presentation of flag to the President
-Age
-Open-door hour
-September 1970
-Staff
The President's previous speech to Daughters of the American Revolution [DAR], April 19,
1971
-Flag reference
Mrs. Heatwole
-Democrat
The President's schedule
-Upcoming meeting with Rogers
-Kissinger's view regarding Haig
63
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 12/11)
-Note-taking
-Purpose
-Rogers's possible intiatives
Personnel
-Coordination
-Rogers
-Mitchell Conv. No. 486-5 (cont.)
-Anti-trust case
-Staff
-Kissinger
Networks
-Anti-trust case
-Mitchell
-Ehrlichman
-President's position
-Ehrlichman's view
-Mitchell's conversation with Haldeman
-Ehrlichman
-Memorandum
-Charles W. Colson
-President's position
-Possible suit
-Merits
-President's position
-Mitchell
International Telephone & Telegraph Corporation (ITT)
-Anti-trust case
-Mitchell
-Political implications
-Solicitor general
-Ehrlichman
Ronald L. Ziegler entered at 3:22 pm
The President's schedule
-Upcoming meeting with Rogers
-Press photograph
Rogers's schedule
64
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 12/11)
-Organization of American States [OAS]
-London
The President's schedule
-Rogers
-Photograph session
-Haldeman
Conv. No. 486-5 (cont.)
[Transcript #2: A transcript of the following portion of this conversation was prepared under
court order from December 1978 through March 1979 for Special Access 8, Ronald V. Dellums,
et al. v. James M. Powell, et al., No. 71-2271. The National Archives and Records
Administration produced this transcript. The National Archives does not guarantee its
accuracy.]
[End of transcript]
Demonstrations
-Arrests
-Press
-Zieglers schedule
-Briefing
-Judge George L. Hart, Jr.
-Philip A. Hart
-Senate resolution
-Mall
-Vote
-Quorum
-Possible use of administration allies in Senate
[Thomas]Hale Boggs
-Tapping of phone
-Forthcoming statement
-Oil industry
-Unknown woman
-Personal life
-Russell B. Long
Desegregation
-Ziegler's morning briefing
-Agencies
-Violence
65
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 12/11)
-Schools
-Administration policy
-Cooperation over coercion
-Jail
-Cooperation
[Transcript #3: A transcript of the following portion of this conversation was prepared under
8, Ronald 486-5 (cont.)
court order from December 1978 through March 1979 for Special Access Conv. No. V. Dellums,
et al. v. James M. Powell, et al., No. 71-2271. The National Archives and Records
Administration produced this transcript. The National Archives does not guarantee its
accuracy.]
[End of transcript]
Stephen B. Bull entered and left at an unknown time during the transcribed portion.
Rogers, Fred Maroon, and Stan Wayman entered at 3:32 pm
Greetings
Photographs
-Location
-Indoors
-[Rose Garden]
-Press
-Weather
[Transcript #4: A transcript of the following portion of this conversation was prepared under
court order from December 1978 through March 1979 for Special Access 8, Ronald V. Dellums,
et al. v. James M. Powell, et al., No. 71-2271. The National Archives and Records
Administration produced this transcript. The National Archives does not guarantee its
accuracy.]
[End of transcript]
Haldeman's schedule
-Photographs
The President, Haldeman, Ziegler, Rogers, Maroon, and Wayman left at 3:35 pm
66
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 12/11)
Conversation No. 486-6
Date: April 22, 1971
Time: Unknown between 3:35 pm and 3:41 pm
Location: Oval Office
Manolo Sanchez and an unknown man met at an unknown time after 3:35 pm
Conv. No. 486-5 (cont.)
[Unintelligible]
The conversation was cut off at an unknown time before 3:41 pm
Conversation No. 486-7
Date: April 22, 1971
Time: 3:41 pm - 4:35 pm
Location: Oval Office
The President met with William P. Rogers and H.R. (Bob) Haldeman
[This recording began at an unknown time while the meeting was in progress]
The People's Republic of China [PRC]
-US and PRC relations
-Consultation with US allies
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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1
[National Security]
[Duration: 3m 37s ]
UNITED KINGDOM AND PRC
END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1
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(rev. 12/11)
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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 7
[Personal Returnable]
[Duration: 17s ] Conv. No. 486-7 (cont.)
END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 7
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Manolo Sanchez entered at an unknown time after 3:41 pm
Sanchez Left at an unknown time before 4:35 pm
Israel
68
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(rev. 12/11)
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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 8
[Personal]
[Duration: 18s ]
END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 8 Conv. No. 486-7 (cont.)
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Middle East
-Israel
-Administration's position
-General Alexander M. Haig, Jr.
-Henry A. Kissinger
-John N. Mitchell
-Meeting with the President, April 21, 1971
-Possibility of war
-President's position
-1967 Situation
-Possible US reaction
-Military assistance
-Ceasefire
-Rogers's possible initiatives
-Mitchell's view
-Rogers's Jewish acquaintances
-Press accounts
-US concerns
-Military assistance
-Rogers's possible conversation with Israeli leaders
-Golda Meir
-American Jewish Community
-US policy
-Balance of power
-Egypt
-Message to Anwar el-Sadat
-Lebanon
-Beirut
-Presidents talk with Rogers
69
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 12/11)
-Israel
-Domestic situation
-Union of Soviet Socialist Republic [USSR]
-Israeli policy
-USSR
-Possibility of war
-Egypt
-Concerns Conv. No. 486-7 (cont.)
-Military strength
-Egypt
-USSR military assistance
-Defenses
-Egyptian missile capacity
-Surface-to-air Missiles [SAMs]
-Tourism
-Oil
-Discovery
-Israel
-Assessment of Egyptian policy
-Sadat
-Policy regarding US
-Concessions
-US elections
-Rogers's conversation with Yigal Allon
-Unknown Israeli editor
-Position
-US policy
-Peace agreement
-Israel and Egypt
-Time table
-Goal
-Israel
-Meir
-Negotiations
-Goal
-Israel
-Suez Canal proposal
-Egypt
-Sadat's message to Rogers, April 22, 1971
-Clarence C. Ferguson, Jr.
-Suez Canal proposal
-US strategy
70
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 12/11)
-Suez Canal
-Role
-Diplomacy
-Negotiations
-US aims
-Role
-Risks
-Rogers's upcoming trip Conv. No. 486-7 (cont.)
-Arabs
-Israel
-Rogers's Trip
-Goal
-Israel
Rogers schedule
-London
-Southeast Asia Treaty Organization [SEATO] meeting
-Paris
-Maurice Schumann
-Ankara
-Central Treaty Organization (CENTO) Meeting
-South Vietnamese Foreign Minister
-Pakistan
-Saudi Arabia
-King Faisal
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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 9
[National Security]
[Duration: 6s ]
SAUDI ARABIA
END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 9
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-King Faisal
71
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 12/11)
-Meeting with the President in 1960's
-Waldorf Towers
-Relations with US
-Riyadh
-Description
-Jordan
-Amman
Conv. No. 486-7 (cont.)
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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 11
[National Security]
[Duration: 5s ]
JORDAN
END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 11
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-Lebanon
-Internal Conditions
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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 12
[National Security]
[Duration: 20s ]
LEBANON AND JORDAN
END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 12
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-Egypt
72
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 12/11)
-Israel
-Social Engagements
-Suez
-Aswan
-Dam
-Construction
-President's 1963 Visit
-Egyptian relations with US Conv. No. 486-7 (cont.)
-Italy
-Rome
-Aldo Moro
-Pope Paul VI
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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 10
[National Security]
[Duration: 38s ]
THE VATICAN
END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 10
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-Schedule
Israeli and Egyptian conflict
-Possible US stance regarding Israel
-Negotiations
-Meir
-Egypt
-Possible settlement
-Egyptian proposals
-Suez
-Israeli position
-Rogers's conversation with Allon
-Proposals
-Withdrawal from Suez
-Observer force
73
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 12/11)
-Peace-keeping Force
-Egyptian and Israeli participation
-Israeli tactics
-Possibility of war
-Military assistance
-USSR
-Mig's
-US Conv. No. 486-7 (cont.)
-Artillery
-SAMs
-Israeli objectives
-Suez
-Golan Heights
-War
-USSR
-Policy
-Military assistance
-Egypt
-SAM's
-Concerns
-Aswar Dem
-Airplanes
-Type
-Objectives
-Defense
-Status Quo
-Arabs
-Negotiations
-Egyptian proposals
-Suez
-Straits
-Israeli Stance
-Strategy
-Possible Solution
Rogers' upcoming trip to the Middle East
-Memoranda for the President
-Israel and Egypt
-Jordan
-Lebanon and Saudi Arabia
-Joseph J. Sisco
74
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 12/11)
-Briefings for Ronald L. Ziegler
-Press
-Israeli Reaction
-Israel
-Road to Tel Aviv and Jerusalem
-Tanks
-1945 War
-Food Conv. No. 486-7 (cont.)
The President's previous visit to Israel
-Tel Aviv
-Charles G. ("Bebe") Rebozo
-Tel Aviv Hilton
-Rebozo's Activities
-Food
Israeli and Egyptian conflict
-Yitzhak Rabin
-US position
-Rabin and Allon
-Suez Negotiations
-Israeli proposals
-Meir
-Unknown Israeli editor's view regarding elections
-Possible Israeli elections
-President's position
-Need for agreement
-Support for Israel in US
-Polls
-Public opinion
-Financial backing
-US elections
-President's possible activities
-Unknown journalist
-James B. (Scotty) Reston
-Democrat candidate
-Support for Israel
-Rogers's possible initiatives
-UN
-Security Council
-Meeting
75
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 12/11)
-Resolution on Israel
-Egypt
-Israel
-US position
-General Assembly
-Vote on Israel
-Prospects
-Ethiopia Conv. No. 486-7 (cont.)
-Congo
-Israel's position
-US position
Turkey
-John B. Connally conversations with State Department officials
Stephen B. Bull entered at an unknown time after 3:41 pm
The President's schedule
-Medal of Honor awards ceremony
Bull left at an unknown time before 4:35 pm
Medal of Honor awards
-Posthumous awards
-Lyndon B. Johnson
-Number
The President's meeting with Charles B. Rangel
-Harlem
-Adam Clayton Powell
-Heroin
-Entrance into US
-Daniel P. (Pat) Moynihan
Turkey
-President's previous conversation with Connally
-Government
-Heroin
-Production
-US position
-Growth
-Rogers's forthcoming trip
76
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 12/11)
-US aid
Heroin
-Problems
-Turkeys farmers
-Political considerations
-Drug problem in US
-Rangel Conv. No. 486-7 (cont.)
-US aid to Turkey
-Link to production
-Rogers' forthcoming trip
-US position
-Impact in US
-Crop
-Analysis of problem
-Farmers
-Licensing authority
-Medicine
-Value to farmers
-Moynihan's view
-Possible purchase of crop
-Codeine
-Possible US strategy
-Regulation
-Publicity
-Timing
-Sensitivity
-Rogers' conversation with Connally
New Jersey
-Congressman
-William T. Cahill
-Senate
-Nelson G. Gross
Gross
-Harrison A. Williams, Jr.
-Possible position with administration
-Drug problem
-James A. Rhodes
77
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 12/11)
Rhodes
-Qualifications
-Compared with gross
-Possible position within administration
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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 3 Conv. No. 486-7 (cont.)
[Personal Returnable]
[Duration: 20s ]
END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 3
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Rhodes
-Possible position within administration
-Compared with Gross
-Possible position
-Drug problem
-Special assistant
-Crusader
-Gross
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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 4
[Personal Returnable]
[Duration: 54s ]
END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 4
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Rogers' schedule, April 23, 1971
-Press conference
-Possible questions
78
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 12/11)
-Laos
-Paul N. (Pete) McCloskey, Jr.
-Report
-Optimism
-Vietnam
-Outlook
PRC initiative Conv. No. 486-7 (cont.)
-Unity in administration
-Vice President Spiro T. Agnew
-President's Conversation with Haldeman
-Haldeman's possible conversation with Agnew
-Bryce N. Harlow
-Agnew's remarks
-National Security Council [NSC]
-Trade and travel restrictions
-Ping pong team
-UN representation issue
-US tactics
-Agnew
-Agnew's meeting with press
-Impact on President
-Media reaction
-Use of Agnew as Machiavellian play
-State Department
-John A. Scali
-Role
-President's meeting with Graham B. Steenhoven
-Exchange Visits
-President's forthcoming trip to PRC
-Scali's role
-Press
-Nikita S. Khrushchev
-Steenhoven
Steenhoven
-Visit to PRC
-Meeting with the President
-Press conference
-Employment with Chrysler
-Age
79
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Tape Subject Log
(rev. 12/11)
-Appearance
[A transcript of the following portion of this conversation was prepared under court order from
December 1978 through March 1979 for Special Access 8, Ronald V. Dellums, et al. v. James M.
Powell, et al., No. 71-2271. The National Archives and Records Administration produced this
transcript. The National Archives does not guarantee its accuracy.]
[End of transcript] Conv. No. 486-7 (cont.)
Bull entered at an unknown time after 3:41 pm
The President's schedule
-Medal of Honor ceremony
-Congressional invitees
-Philip M. Crane
-Harold R. Collier
-Joseph E. Karth
Bull left at an unknown time before 4:35 pm
Rogers's forthcoming trip
-Robert A. Taft, Jr's view
Rogers's schedule, April 23, 1971
-Press conference
-Possible question
-Paris negotiations
-Prospects
-Vietnam
-Withdrawal rate
The President's schedule
-Forthcoming welcome to First Marine Division at Camp Pendleton, California, April
30, 1971
Rogers's trip to Mideast
-Israel
-Food
-Rebozo's remarks
-Women
-People
-Age
-Youth
80
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Tape Subject Log
(rev. 12/11)
-Golan Heights
-Rogers's conversation with Yitzhak Rabin
-Egypt
-Israelis
-Compared with American Jews
-Rabin
-Tel Aviv
-Youth Conv. No. 486-7 (cont.)
-Tradition
The President, Rogers, and Haldeman left at 4:35 pm
Conversation No. 486-8
Date: April 22, 1971
Time: 4:35 pm - unknown before 4:52 pm
Location: Oval Office
Unknown people (Secret Service agents) entered
The President's location
-Blue Room
The conversation was cut off at an unknown time before 4:52 pm