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RMC Meeting Minutes (Public)
(Tuesday / Wednesday 06/08-09/2004)
Attendees:
Registrar Management Committee Meeting Roster
Tuesday June 08, 2004
Name Company
(** Voting Members)
**Mike Roberts (Chair) Boeing OEM
Ed Bayne Boeing OEM
Tim Lee Boeing OEM
Pete Raney SGS CRB
Grant O’Brien SGS CRB
Dave Dinwiddie Honeywell HTSI OEM
Craig Carlson Honeywell OEM
Bob Totaro DQS CRB
Bruce Melville Textron OEM
JoAda Wickern SAI Global CRB
John Wickern SAI Global CRB
Nik Sutton Boeing OEM
Roger Ritterbock QMI CRB
James Hardy ABS QE CRB
Bob Kay SAI Global CRB
Phil Klukas RWTUV USA CRB
Craig Casillas TUV America CRB
Guy Johansen UTC OEM
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Michael Eller UTC P&W OEM
Rich Vinton Raytheon OEM
Peter Kern Goodrich OEM
Robert Starkweather AQA CRB
Michael Harrell UL CRB
Buddy Cressionnie Lockheed Martin OEM
Phil Abbott LRQA CRB
Walter Long Tinker AFB Guest
Tony Marino Boeing OEM
Sidney Vianna DNV CRB
Fred Becker Intertek CRB
**Paul Trotochaud UTC-P&W OEM
**Jay Park Northrop-Grumman OEM
**Rick Downs Cessna OEM
Michael Song Boeing OEM
**Greg Worthington Lockheed Martin (Delegate) OEM
Jeff Carr NQA CRB
Reg Blake IAAR / BSI America CRB
Pete Kucan PRI Registrars CRB
Glenn Oka Raytheon OEM
Doug French Vought OEM
Roberto Michelson Embraer OEM
**Luiz Brandao Embraer OEM
Randy Dougherty ANSI-RAB AB
Hollie Last Standards Council of Canada AB
Carl Blazik IAAR CRS Registrars CRB
Bill Walker TUV Rheinland of NA CRB
Dan Smith GEAE OEM
Jay Myers SAE SAE
Attendees:
Registrar Management Committee Meeting Roster
Wednesday June 09, 2004
Name Company
(** Voting Members)
**Mike Roberts (Chair) Boeing OEM
Ed Bayne Boeing OEM
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Tim Lee Boeing OEM
Pete Raney SGS CRB
Grant O’Brien SGS CRB
Dave Dinwiddie Honeywell OEM
Craig Carlson Honeywell OEM
Bob Totaro DQS CRB
Bruce Melville Textron OEM
JoAda Wickern SAI Global CRB
John Wickern SAI Global CRB
Nik Sutton Boeing OEM
Roger Ritterbock QMI CRB
James Hardy ABS QE CRB
Bob Kay SAI Global CRB
Phil Klukas RWTUV USA CRB
Craig Casillas TUV America CRB
Guy Johansen UTC OEM
Michael Eller UTC OEM
Rich Vinton Raytheon OEM
Peter Kern Goodrich OEM
Robert Starkweather AQA CRB
Michael Harrell UL CRB
Buddy Cressionnie Lockheed Martin OEM
Phil Abbott LRQA CRB
Walter Long Tinker AFB Guest
Tony Marino Boeing OEM
Sidney Vianna DNV CRB
Fred Becker Intertek CRB
**Paul Trotochaud UTC OEM
**Jay Park Northrop Grumman OEM
**Rick Downs Textron OEM
Michael Song Boeing OEM
**Greg Worthington Lockheed Martin (Delegate) OEM
Jeff Carr NQA CRB
Reg Blake IAAR / BSI America CRB
Pete Kucan PRI Registrars CRB
Glenn Oka Raytheon OEM
Robert Cook FAA Guest
George Winchester Northrop Grumman OEM
Sally Randle Rolls Royce OEM
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Russ Bloom Smithers Quality Assessments CRB
Doug French Vought OEM
Roberto Michelson Embraer OEM
**Luiz Brandao Embraer OEM
Randy Dougherty ANSI-RAB AB
Hollie Last Standards Council of Canada AB
Carl Blazik IAAR CRS Registrars CRB
Richaro Coleman SRI Quality System Registrars CRB
Bill Walker TUV Rheinland of NA CRB
Dan Smith GEAE OEM
Jay Myers SAE SAE
Tuesday (06-08-04) Attendance Statistics
Attendance: Total 47
OEMs 23
CRBs 20
ABs 2
SAE 1
Guests 1
Represented: OEMs 12
CRBs 17
ABs 2
Wednesday (06-09-04) Attendance Statistics
Attendance: Total 52
OEMs 25
CRBs 22
ABs 2
SAE 1
Guests 2
Represented: OEMs 12
CRBs 19
ABs 2
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Meeting Agenda
In the minutes below:
Discussions are documented in Blue
Actions are documented in Red
Decisions are documented in Violet
Discussion Example
1. Action Example
1. Decision Example
Meeting Minutes
1.) Welcome, Introductions, and Overview Mike Roberts
2.) Review of Spring IAQG & AAQG Meetings Mike Roberts
3.) Review of Paris OT Meeting Mike Roberts
4.) Review of Paris IAQG NABs Meeting Randy Dougherty
5.) Document 9104 Mike Roberts
6.) AB Review - ANSI-RAB-NAP Randy Dougherty
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7.) AB Review - SCC Hollie Last
2. Tim Lee to provide Mike Roberts data to bring to AAQG LT
on consultants / auditors
8.) AB Review - Brazilian System Luiz Brandao
9.) Space Holder
10.) Issues Mike Roberts
11.) Communication - New Process Mike Roberts
2. Use a resolution log (and keep it up to date) as
documented evidence of decisions
3. Use the AAQG public Web site as the primary
communication vehicle, including a push email to
members when any resolution is posted
3. Plea to audience for systems gurus to set up and automate
the AAQG RMC Web site
4. Rich Vinton volunteered to coordinate Web activities
4. Are there volunteers to support a Randy Dougherty
suggestion of a subteam for the Web site?
12.) Non-RMC Approval of AA Auditors Mike Roberts
5. Mike Roberts to call meeting of the Auditor review
committee and obtain facts & data of AA application
numbers. Based on the data, determine way forward on
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the AA, either:
The RMC will no longer review AA applications and will
rely on the ABs to perform this. The RMC will perform a
sampling review of AA credentials during annual
surveillance of ABs .......OR
No change to existing practice of RMC reviewing all AA
applications.
Decision by September 2004 RMC meeting
13.) Auditor Review Team Report Rick Downs
6. Auditor Review Team to link aerospace experience to
direct aerospace experience vs ancillary experience
14.) AIR5493 Re-write Team Report Hollie Last
15.) Process Team Report Reg Blake
7. Consider including the process flow chart in AIR5359
document or even replacing the document with a process
flow chart
16.) Surveillance Team Report Tim Lee
8. Tim Lee to look into a subset of the oversight schedule
that may be posted on the AAQG public Web site
17.) OASIS Team Report Jay Myers
18.) OASIS Database Randy Dougherty
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9. CRBs & Oversight Team to look at the (27) AS9100 1994
model certifications for validity
19.) Documentation Team Report Leader To Be Named
10. Request made for volunteer to lead and also participate on
the documentation team - also ensure coordination with
the Process Team items
20.) Prepared for AS9110 and AS9120 Ed Bayne
21.) CRB Feedback / Issues All
(CB) The CRBs request the AS9111 checklist be available in
MS Word
(SV) Issued certs must include the sector scheme linkage -
to issue cross sector certs, the CRB should be accredited in
each sector - is the issue that the client wants multi sector
recognition on the certs or are they being restricted by their
customer?
11. Mike Roberts to raise cross sector cert issue to IAQG OT
Post minutes to web in a timely manner
AS9100 comments for future revision (2008) to be sent to
Peter Kern for consolidation and input to the 9100 writing
team
22.) Next RMC Meeting September 28-29, 2004
Tuesday September 28, 2004 1:00-4:30
Wednesday September 29, 2004 8:00-12:00
Wyndham City Center Hotel
1143 New Hampshire Ave NW
Washington DC 20037
202-775-0800
Note: The AAQG Main Meeting is Wednesday afternoon and
Thursday morning
23.) Action Item Review Mike Roberts
Ed Bayne read the actions (see Red above) and decisions
(see Violet above) that he captured. Membership was asked
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if there were any other actions. No additional topics or
actions were discussed.
24.) Closing Remarks to RMC group
25.) Adjourned at 11:33pm.
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