Re: FREE ENERGY Technologies Intro
Re: FREE ENERGY Technologies Intro
Source: http://sci.tech−archive.net/Archive/sci.physics/2007−02/msg01413.html
• From: "esa juhani ruoho"
• Date: 8 Feb 2007 22:11:44 −0800
On 9 helmi, 03:31, rem...@xxxxxxx wrote:
FREE ENERGY Technologies Intro
and 1930's civil engineer ViktorSchauberger's"IMPLOSION TURBINE" that runs on the
same energy source that powers a TORNADO.
I find it quite interesting that you are quite inaccurate when it
comes to Viktor Schauberger. He was not a civil engineer, and he
certainly did not develop "sophisticated mathematical equations" to
explain the behaviour of his jet−turbine. He took out the patent
(AT117749) around the middle of 1920s and was granted it in 1930s.
There is a opensource project at PESWiki to develop the Jet−Turbine,
as it is the simplest of his many devices to develop.
( http://peswiki.com/index.php/OS:Jet−Turbine ). The object of this
device was to drop water into a cone shaped like this: \ / , which
was also ribbed on the inside, in order to automatically induce an
accelerating vortex flow by the mere shape. when the water had
accelerated to the bottom of the cone, it would be discharged (here is
where the word Jet comes in) in a water−jet, which would then be
received by a made−out−of−copper spiraling impeller
( patent picture: http://peswiki.com/images/4/44/Schauberger_jet_turbine_117749.gif
). This impeller would then turn a generator, and produce energy. From
what research I have done to this, it would appear that he invented
this for the purpose of getting electricity for his far−from−the−grid
hut, in the Austrian forest, where he was a forester. There are many
incorrect assumptions about Viktor Schauberger. Some say he was an
engineer, others say that his ideas could be implemented straight from
a sketch. These are wildly inaccurate. What Viktor Schauberger
understood, he gleaned from watching nature at work in the wild
forests, from watching the stationary trout, from wondering what kind
of a form of energy allowed the trout to throw itself up a waterfall,
from seeing an eagle spiral upwards from the surface of a lake, and
then, screaming, plunge downwards, to catch a fish. He manufactured
this lemniscate−like vortical movement in his inventions, to
accelerate water in a naturalesque way. To claim that his inventions
( he took out at least over 13 patents during his lifetime ) start and
end at the Zoekwendle/Strahlturbine is also very inaccurate.
You could do better research than this. He also patented and built Log−
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Flumes, he suggested a vortical Airconditioning−device (The Klimator
( again, a PESWiki opensource−project for the development of the
Klimator is at http://peswiki.com/index.php/OS:Klimator )), he also
built a Repulsator for mixing in minerals and nutrients for the
purpose of creating mountain−spring−quality water, he was working on a
Heimkraftwerk (Home−Power−System) towards the end of his life, using
spiraling copper pipes and a motor, to centripetally spin the water
inside the pipes, and to thus generate electricity.
He wrote immensely, and also drew intuitive sketches of how he saw
nature as working, and how that could be mechanically replicated.
Whilst he died in 1958, research into his understandings still
continues. However, nobody has yet stepped up who actually sees and
understands, intuitively, what Viktor saw and understood. His son,
Walter Schauberger, after the death of his father, spent roughly 35
years in setting up a school, and discovering the underlying complex
mathematical equations to explain what his father saw intuitively. He
found that Viktor's true forefathers were actually Pythagoras and
Kepler, and the harmony of the spheres, and Walter thus developed the
Pythagoras−Kepler−System, and further mapped out Viktor's suggested
"spiraling−space−curve" as the Hyperbolic Cone, using non−euclidian
geometry. Whereas Viktor was a forester, unlearnt and unappreciated by
the academics, Walter was learnt and translated Viktor into the
language of physics and mathematics. Walter also took out a minimum of
two patents related to the Hyperbolic Spiraling Cone, and thus the
development of Viktor's ideas was continued by others.
It seems many engineers have immense trouble understanding what
exactly happened in Viktor's machines. This makes them quite difficult
to replicate. One of the difficulties is that Viktor's machines
utilized the water−hammer−effect (Repulsine, Klimator), which current
engineering works to minimize. There are also highfrequencies
involved, and atomization. What Viktor simply, and easily understood
as "creating a lung" to "breathe in the air" and to "atomize it", has
to be explained to engineers as something quite much more complex than
that. The important thing is to understand that Viktor was always
building machines that were meant to work as living, in−breathing and
out−exhaling machines. A mere approximation of a shape based on a
sketch is not enough.
Please do some more research into this instead of just rehashing the
past inaccuracies, and basically lumping Viktor in with the energy−
suppression −clique (who never do any accurate research, and who
always focus on telling everyone "boohoo, look at all these brilliant
people. boohoo.. so anyway.. boohoo." − it does not help. Viktor's
machines can still be developed, and more to the point, if you could
even think for a while about the underlying mechanism involved, and
see that nature still uses this movement and method of moving, for
upbuilding, that we don't have to understand what Viktor himself
thought, we have to actually see how nature works for ourselves, and
then replicate that. "Comprehend and Copy" was his maxim (Kapieren
und Kopieren). Please, don't waste any more time blowing the horn to
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inform people about Viktor, or re−telling wildly inaccurate stories (I
found a website where it was claimed that Nikola Tesla and Viktor
Schauberger worked together! This is in no way true, but try telling
them, and they'll ignore you), or of focusing on what happened to him
in the u.s.a. (Project Implosion).. Spend your time doing research and
understanding where this man came from, and then seeing what he would
have seen in nature, for yourself.
There is no time anymore to be a parrot, those who are prone to be
interested in what Viktor suggested about explosion/heat/pressure vs
implosion/cooling/suction are probably already on the path to
understanding. And yes, all of Viktor's devices used implosion and
suction, and centripetal acceleration, to accelerate the medium (be it
air or water, mostly water, because that is what Viktor understood),
so if any of you find it intriguing to think that in the 20s,30s,40s
and 50s, there was a forest−warden, who accelerated water
centripetally, spoke about the cooling process of implosion, raged
against the straightening of rivers, suggested unique ways of de−
silting water−ways, wrote many articles about the poor condition of
the Rhein river, wrote that one day water would be more expensive than
a bottle of wine, was misunderstood by the scientific community (and
still is), and who has later been extrapolated mathematically and
physics−wise by Walter Schauberger, and it seems, also by Vladimir G.
Ginzburg (in his unifying theory of the Three−Dimensional Spiral
String Theory, and his various published papers, books and patents
( http://www.helicola.com ), and who suggested this quite interesting
thing (paraphrased):
Our technology moves the wrong way! (increasing speed increases
pressure, friction and heat−generation) our technology is based on
fire−creation, which nature only uses for destruction of an object,
whereas we know nothing about the cool−producing, pressure−reducing,
suction−based frictionless movement that nature uses to upbuild..
that using this decay/HEAT−producing method of movement will only
result in more HEAT being produced, whereas if we looked, and went the
other way, towards cold−producing technology, utilizing implosion/
suction/vortex, we could actually stop using the combustion engine
altogether − that the method of this is in nature (making him one of
the first biomimetic thinkers) and can be gleaned from the stationary
trout's gills methods.. and so on and so on.
Did i mention he strongly suggested planting trees, and allowing
rivers to meander, to maintain their health, instead of straightening
them according to the hydrologists of the time?
yours, Esa Juhani Ruoho
http://www.lackluster.org
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