sci.archaeology: Re: Stalking in Swedish
Re: Stalking in Swedish
Source: http://sci.tech−archive.net/Archive/sci.archaeology/2005−01/1095.html
From: unglued (dragonseed_at_spray.se)
Date: 01/17/05
Date: 17 Jan 2005 10:16:38 −0800
I.E_Johansson wrote:
> unglued,
> I have more than 34 years experience with computers. I am well aware
of the
> methods used by some trying to act as if they were 10 others. But I
am also
> aware that the IP address can be tracked. Guess you know that too.
The
> supplier can always find who is behind and there are softwares
provided by
> suppliers to track as well.
An IP address can be traced but the true origin of an e−mail is more
difficult.
How do you imagine that such software works ?
>
> Inger E
> "unglued" skrev i meddelandet
> news:1105971375.310774.58850@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
>>
> > I.E_Johansson wrote:
> > > unglued,
> > > 'every one is' you say. Well not everyone has been haressed,
abused
> > and
> > > stalked on net by same 20 persons for more than two years. That's
one
> > thing.
> > > Among those persons are 3 who definitely been cut of from access
more
> > than
> > > once of the suppliers they have had due to them sending private
> > sexmails to
> > > me. There are also 2 others who have been told by their border of
the
> > > University faculties that they aren't allowed to use the
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University's
> > > accounts at all if they continue and 1 who has been told that he
risk
> > his
> > > own position. I have had great help of my own suppliers and
others
> > alike
> > > around the world.
>>
> > I will not enter upon any discussion with you in this matter
howerver
> > you should be aware that with the aid of freely available tools it
is
> > possible to forge the source of any given package of data on the
net.
> > One mischeivous person could with impunity impersonate 20 other
people
> > and no one could prove a thing. Anyone who claims they can
definatly
> > pinpoint the source of a mail message is ignorant.
>>
>>>
> > > Inger E
> > > "unglued" skrev i meddelandet
> > > news:1105961343.334595.167570@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
>>>>
> > > > I.E_Johansson wrote:
> > > > > "unglued" skrev i meddelandet
> > > > > news:1105898079.953626.208820@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
> > > > > Lasse once said, an other question but related to this, that
it's
> > > > easier
> > > > > when you know the person who has been stalked. What many here
> > seem to
> > > > forget
> > > > > is that it's not be taken seriously that's up. I have had the
> > > > pleasure to
> > > > > know several of those who sits on posts in Parliament,
earlier
> > > > Goverments,
> > > > > High posts in University and newspaper since the days we
either
> > > > studied
> > > > > together or were working during the 70's together
politically.
> > Never
> > > > had any
> > > > > problems with anyone that really counts not taken me
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seriously.
> > > > Doesn't mean
> > > > > that every one agrees with everyone. Only that people who
have
> > known
> > > > each
> > > > > other for more than 30 years respect each others thoughts and
> > > > opinion.
>>>>>
> > > > > That's not a problem. But to be called names and have people
> > > > haressing me
> > > > > as a person, sending me sexabuse − yes one of the worst 10
showed
> > the
> > > > other
> > > > > day how keen he is to do so no matter what he tries to 'tell
the
> > > > world',
> > > > > that's stalking.
>>>>
> > > > That's you own definition of stalking and not many people would
> > agree
> > > > with you.
> > > > For most people it means having a maniac hanging around out
side
> > your
> > > > door, spying on you and following you around. Everyone with a
> > e−mail
> > > > address has it filled with "sexabuse" and harassing messages
> > everyday.
> > > > Everyone who participates on the usenet is subject to rudness
and
> > > > provocations, that's a part of our modern life and it's self
> > inflicted.
> > > > No one is forced to expose themselves to the whole world. With
your
> > > > definition everyone is stalked.
>>>>
> > > > >Apart from which, if you or anyone else don't agree with my
> > > > > writing or with anyone else writing, it would be better for
you
> > or
> > > > the
> > > > > someone who does if contra−argument(−s) were presented. No
> > scholar
> > > > who wants
> > > > > to be taken seriously should try to pick on an other such as
some
> > > > here have
> > > > > done on me. That's to write Ad Hominem or abusive lines
instead
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> > of
> > > > showing
> > > > > capability to discuss subject line.
>>>>>
> > > > > Inger E
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > Is it too much paranoia? Or is Inger more powerful than
you
> > > > thought?
> > > > > > > Or is there a real problem?
>>>>>>
> > > > > > It's a real problem for those who are really stalked (not
just
> > > > having
> > > > > > their posts on usenet made ridicule) but it's not a hotly
> > debated
> > > > > > problem here in any sense of the term.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > Andy.
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>
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