There was a technical problem due to which we
could not access shout box and guest book for the Ganesh 08:31 AM 01st Jun
past two days. Now business as usual.
Congratulations to all commrades and many-2
thanx to Sanjay ji & team on the extention of
wow 09:26 AM 01st Jun
MACP TO prog/engnn. Cadres !Three cheers to
SSS sanghe shakti!Long live PSA!
The modified ACP Scheme order(F.No.B-
12017/7/2008-WL dt 29.05.2009) for grant of
ACP as per VI Pay Commission Report for
Sanjay Kumar 09:52 AM 01st Jun
administrative, subordinate engineering &
programme cadres shall be uploaded today.
Sanjay Kumar, President.
Dear friends we have received a 29 page response
on 27.5.09 to the RTI filed regarding the BECIL
appointments. There are some unanswered
questions as well. Since it is not possible to
upload the entire response we are sending a
Sanjay Kumar 09:54 AM 01st Jun
hardcopy to units and also we plan to discuss it in
the central executive committee next week.Only
after the inputs from the units and the CEC shall
we be making our next step on this issue. Sanjay
kumar,President,PSA.
So atlast victory for the deserved. But as usual I
have a doubt. The DOPT order says in point 9
"The scheme would be operational w.e.f.
01.09.2008. ln other words, financial
upgradations as per the provisions of the earlier anonymous 04:39 PM 01st Jun
ACP Scheme (of August, 1999) would be granted
till 31.08.2008." and in point 11 "It is clarified
that no past cases would be re-opened". Hope
ours is not a past case:-(
Its a matter of pride that after a long battel we are
in the winning boat,I would like to say thanks
toall the friends who were working for this .to day
kanava 07:38 PM 01st Jun
we got this tommaro we will also get the benefit
of ACP for 5th pay commisson. Although it is not
a easy task but I am confident we will get it .
congrats to PSA!but many doubts arised.A prog
person who joined as trex in 94 completes12years
in 2006.he gets next basic of pex according to 5th
PC ACP provisions.Modified ACP commens from
prasanth 09:45 PM 01st Jun
2008 sept1 means he gets next grade pay in
2016.am i correct?what is the grade pay if he gets
pex basic in 2006?can anybody clarify my
doubts?
Prasanth ji you r little bit confused A trex with 10 wow 04:49 AM 02nd Jun
or more than 10 yrs of service as on 1/9/08 will
get 4600 GP forget about 5th pay comm firstly get
this one as babus want to derail this MACP
also,so get yur fixation done?
Is it possible to file a case against individual
SAOs for not implementing the order, if they anonymous 08:21 AM 02nd Jun
'derail'.
Maybe the station heads should be proceeded
hahaha 08:47 AM 02nd Jun
against as they are guided by the admin's 'advice'.
All unit sec are requested to immediately give a
letter to their head of office for speedy
Sanjay Kumar 04:24 PM 02nd Jun
implementation of the MACP order dated
29.5.09. Sanjay Kumar, President.
tamil nadu wishes to place on record its
congratulations and a deep sense of gratitude to
sanjay and srinivasan and the entire team of
sincere comrades who worked untiringly for the
welfare of programme staff. may this positive mohanakrishnan 04:50 PM 02nd Jun
trend of sincerity in leadership and hardwork
continue. many congratulations once more. M.G.
MOHANAKRISHNAN, STATE SECRETARY,
PSA TAMILNADU
let all the friends who deserted our psa, i mean the
direct pexs take note of the positive happenings. it
is time they realise their folly and come back to comrade 05:17 PM 02nd Jun
our fold. otherwise loss will be theirs. hope they
hear this shout.
CREDIT GOES TO PSA
LEADERSHIP.CONGRATS.STILL SOME
prasanth 05:45 PM 02nd Jun
CLARIFICATIONS NEEDED.HOPE
COMEBODY PROVIDE THE SAME
hi comrade it is the 86-88 batch pexs who are the
maximum gainers. They are trying to have the
hahaha 07:55 PM 02nd Jun
best of both worlds not realising the chaff & grain
story!
Engnn cadres final cadre review proposal
submitted to DG .we hope for the best on this side
wow 08:53 PM 02nd Jun
of prog cadre review?final report of engnn cadre
on adtea site*
true ha ha ha!!! butr one point i wud like to
mention is that we shd not divide ourselves as
minimum gainers and maximum gainers. gain is a
gain for all of us. may be 88 batch are our elders
comrade 09:16 PM 02nd Jun
and we are juniors. we will also get our due in the
course of time. let us be united and have gud
leaders.we should never be the ha ha ha (laughing
stock)ike the direct pexs.
dear friends,dept has to issue another order to
implement old ACP to us.we are not eligible for
5th p c ACP .we r eligible MACP on 1-08-08.so
those having 10 or more service will be given one prasanth 09:47 PM 02nd Jun
MACP upgradation at present.means next grade
pay only.no arrears from 1-1=06.get arrears from
1-08-08.am i correct?
Engnn cadres final cadre review report submitted
to DG!Let us hope for the best in this front
wow 06:45 AM 03rd Jun
also.Final report of engnn cadre at
adteaindia.org.in!
PRESIDENT PL UPLOAD A CONSOLIDATED
LADDER STRUCTURE OF CADRE REVIEW
sinhapa 06:57 AM 03rd Jun
IN A SINGLE PAGE AS LIKE ENGINEERS
INCLUDING ALL CADRES OF AIR AND DD
what to do with the ladder when there is no
wow 08:01 AM 03rd Jun
meetings held for the cadre review!
Members are pardoned if they repeat my name
100 or more times after reading latest post in hahaha 08:10 AM 03rd Jun
pswa blog. Point 19 takes the cake.
I would like to sincerely wish the present team of
PSA for their good works in the past one year.
Eventhough i and some PEXs like me were not shailesh 08:36 AM 03rd Jun
happy with the earlier leadership of PSA, it is
high time that we supported the present team.
Dainik bhaskar 3 june 09 mein jaiprakash
chowkse'parde ke pichhe' kalum mein 'Rahul
gandhi se choti si guzarish' agar ho sake to har
karykram adhikari pare aur Ganesh ji if you are wow 09:04 AM 03rd Jun
able to track down this article on
www.bhaskar.com then dload it & kindly post it
on our site!
Hahaha ji its on aupo's blog but they have just
given explainations/unreasonable reasons just
behaving like Pakis don't understand the meaning wow 01:51 PM 03rd Jun
of unity,they will retire without any promotion?ha
ha ha.....
Dear Sanjay Srivatsav, President,With reference
to your message 2nd June 09 at 4.24pm, the unit
secretaries are supposed to give a representation
to the Head of Office, to speed up the recently
pronounce MACP order. But a question has
ashok 03:28 PM 03rd Jun
arrised where the Programme Executive are the
Head of Office, to whom they have to represent.
Several programme executives running ledger
account is maintained by IRLA, and kindly
suggest how they have to resolve the issue.
Sir, The order of MACP scheme has not marked
to IRLA, NEW DELHI. Unless and until the
order is received by IRLA how they will be able ashok 03:35 PM 03rd Jun
to impliment it to the Programme staff those who
are having IRLA account.
Dear wow I could not found it on aupo's blog. But
yes pswa blog mentions 'aupo said' as title for that hahaha 05:46 PM 03rd Jun
post.
Ha ha ha u r right.May be somekinda nexus! wow 07:49 AM 04th Jun
WHY THE MACP ORDERS BEING
wow 01:47 PM 04th Jun
DISPLAYED ON AIRNET TILL DATE?
PL.SEE THE EXPLANATIONS OF AUPO FOR
THE PSA'S BROADVISION ALLEGATIONS nandan 07:29 AM 08th Jun
IN AUPO'S BLOG......IS THE FACTS TRUE...?
AUPOS CLARIFICATIONS I.) 1. The last issue
of PSA’s Broad vision dated 12th May 2009 has
some references to AUPO . For the purpose of not
only AUPO members , but also every one else in
suchbol 06:57 AM 09th Jun
the programme cadre, some clarifications are
required. An attempt is made here to explain
matters in simple lay man terms so that everyone
understands the issues.
2. The first question that needs to be answered is
whether there is any truth in AUPO stating that
the PSA has contributed to violating and suchbol 06:57 AM 09th Jun
circumventing the statutory rules ? Or are we
making wild unsubstantiated allegations?
3.Well as everyone knows, until 2000, every
AUPO member was a PSA member. Neither
AUPO or PSWA existed. However, there was
wide spread discontent among UPSC PEXS
familiar with the Rules. Many times, gross
violations of the Statutory Rules were pointed out
to the PSA leadership . In the absence of any
support by the Association, individuals like Maya
Israni , Chetan Naik , S.D. Shastri and
Sachidanand Singh went to the court on their
suchbol 06:58 AM 09th Jun
own. If PSA had shown the sense of
responsibility and fairness to ensure that statutory
rules were followed, AUPO would never have
been formed. It is now upto the PSA to explain
why they ignored the violations of statutory rules
, though it harmed the PEXs and created a
situation where PEXs have not been promoted for
27 years. This has also affected the promotions of
Trexs and Production Assistants as they are
behind Pexs in the queue.
4. The sequence of the gross violations of the
IBPS statutory rules, PSA’s role in the matter ,
and how it caused huge damage to the Pexs , and suchbol 06:58 AM 09th Jun
how the PSA action or inaction gave illegal
benefits to Producers is explained below.
5. According to the IBPS Rules notified on 5th
November 1990, Pexs are eligible for both
Management and Production. Producers are
however eligible only for Production and not for
Management. The PSA from 1990 onwards
refused to acknowledge that as per rules , Pexs
are eligible for Production posts of IBPS. All suchbol 06:59 AM 09th Jun
Production posts were given exclusively to
Producers. In fact ,the PSA even wrote a letter to
the Ministry that PEXs were not eligible for
Production posts of IBPS. Some of you may have
seen this letter in one of the old Broadvision
issues.
6. In 2000, a review DPC was conducted to the
JTS posts of IBPS. Many senior PEXs were
reverted . Many of you may remember how
Naramihacharyalu, Sahu , Devika Moktan,
Upendra Raina, Subramanium etc were reverted.
AUPO repeatedly pointed out that since Pexs are
eligible for Production as per rules, these persons suchbol 06:59 AM 09th Jun
have to be considered for both Production and
Management and cannot be reverted. PSA
however refused to support AUPO at this crucial
juncture , on the most important issue affecting
the Pexs – that Pexs were not being considered
eligible for Production posts of IBPS.
7. AUPO was then forced to take the matter to
court. We filed a petition (O.A.No.399/2001)
stating that as per IBPS rules , PEXs are eligible
for Production posts. AUPO also made the PSA a
party to the case, so that PSA would be forced to
take a stand on the matter. However, PSA did not
suchbol 07:00 AM 09th Jun
bother to come to court or to file any reply. AUPO
also transferred to Delhi, and clubbed along with
the AUPO case, a case filed by Sh. Sachidananad
Singh, an UPSC Pex on the same issue. Both
matters were argued by AUPO’s lawyers and
decided together.
8. When AUPO won the IBPS case in March
2004, the PSA wrote in Broad vision that the JTS
Production case has been won, without suchbol 07:06 AM 09th Jun
mentioning that it was AUPO who had won the
case.
9. It is important that everyone understands that in
the first place, AUPO had to file a case stating
that PEXs were eligible for production posts ,
only because PSA had not supported the
legitimate rights of the PEXs. In order to keep the
suchbol 07:07 AM 09th Jun
Producers in its fold, PSA supported the blatant
violation of the statutory rules for 14 years .
(1990 to 2000) and (2000 to 2004). What was the
need for AUPO to go to court, if the PSA had
taken a right and just stance then?
10.The PSA’s convoluted stance on this important
matter is the single reason why Production posts
lay vacant all these years. The gate for Production
posts was illegally closed to the PEXs. This is the
reason why a PEX remains unpromoted today for
20 to 27 years.. Since Pexs were not considered
eligible for the Production posts in IBPS , the
PEXS were denied promotion though hundreds of suchbol 07:07 AM 09th Jun
posts lay vacant. Because of this basic violation
of the rules, extremely junior Producers were
promoted ahead of senior PEXs. Since, Pexs were
not promoted , those behind them in the queue-
the Trexs and Production Assistants also were
affected. This is the reason why we have i/c PEXs
and ad hoc Pexs today.
11.The PSA cannot deny that they were
repeatedly approached by UPSC PEXS before
AUPO was formed ( and even after AUPO was
formed ) to help resolve the matter . The PSA
cannot deny that they ignored the pleas that PEXs
suchbol 07:08 AM 09th Jun
were always eligible for Production posts as per
the IBPS statutory rules. The PSA cannot deny
that though they were made party to the AUPO
case, they refused to attend court, or reply, or
support AUPO in this vital matter.
12. The PSA cannot also deny that they came out
in support of the matter (and that too briefly) after
AUPO won the case in March 2004. First , the
PSA claimed in Broad vision that the IBPS case
had been won, without specifying that AUPO had
suchbol 07:08 AM 09th Jun
won the case. Later on , when news spread round
the country about AUPO’s role in the matter, the
PSA leadership came up with the drama of an
agitation plan , so as to share the credit for
conduct the review DPC.
13.Since, the eligibility of Production posts for
PEXS matter was something for which AUPO
suchbol 07:08 AM 09th Jun
had been fighting for, AUPO joined the agitation
plank and stood on the same platform as PSA.
14. Many PSA members and office bearers came
from different parts of the country to sincerely
participate in what was a monumental
breakthrough for the PEXS. These persons will suchbol 07:09 AM 09th Jun
remember how negotiations/discussions took
place in the room of Sh. Jaipal Reddy who was
then Minister.
15. The PSA had put three demands , over ruling
AUPO’s plea that we should have only a single
point agenda –i.e - the quick conduct of the suchbol 07:09 AM 09th Jun
review DPC. AUPO feared that the main matter
could get diluted.
16. Sh. K.S. Sharma, the then CEO tried to
deflect the situation by saying “ we will now
move on to point no 2 and 3 on the list of
demands which was put forward by the PSA. ”
suchbol 07:10 AM 09th Jun
AUPO insisted that point No.1 – the quick
conduct of review DPC was the most important
agenda and was able to bring the discussion back
to the primary issue.
17. Those who were in the room of the Minister
that day will remember that AUPO , pointed out
that i. the application for review contained an
unconnected bunch of fudged papers which had
no relation or connection to the IBPS case. i.
AUPO also committed that if even one para in
that bunch of papers/documents had any
connection to the IBPS case, we would withdraw
the agitation. iii. As for appealing in the High
Court, AUPO argued that the IBPS rules were
very clear. The judgment was also very clear. The suchbol 07:12 AM 09th Jun
Pexs were eligible for both Production and
Management. In fact there had been no need to
file this case at all in the first place. Moreover
programmes all over the country were being
produced by PEXS. If the Government , over
ruling the statutory rules and the judgment wanted
to file any review or any appeal , PEXs all over
the country would not undertake production until
the appeal was decided. They would until then
undertake only Management jobs.
18. On being briefed about the statutory rules, the
legal position , and genuiness of the matter, the
Hon’ble Minister Shri. Jaipal Reddy immediately
suchbol 07:15 AM 09th Jun
gave instructions that no appeal needs to be filed
and directed for quick implementation of the
review DPC as per the court judgment.
19. AUPO would also like to clarify that we were suchbol 07:15 AM 09th Jun
however kept in the dark about the minutes
referred to in Broad vision . This is the first time
that we are seeing this minutes. Though a copy of
the minutes has been marked to us, we were not
given a copy of the same and had no idea that
such minutes existed until PSA put it on the
website. However, regardless what is said in the
minutes, what happened in the meeting with the
Minister , was witnessed by atleast around 50
PSA members from different parts of the country
who were present in the room .
20. As regards, the minutes of the first meeting
with Addl. Secretary, S.K. Arora, put on the PSA
web site , in the minutes it is repeatedly stated
that the PSA President said this…. and the PSA
President said that. It is extremely funny that a
joint meeting of the Ministry with PSA and suchbol 07:16 AM 09th Jun
AUPO does not have any reference to what
AUPO who won the IBPS case said. It is
disturbing that the minutes does not reflect our
views and though marked to us, has been kept out
of our notice so far.
21. The PSA as everyone knows withdrew its
agitation plan . (This was done after the PSA
leadership made and received behind the scene
telephone calls. The agitation /negotiations had
not gone the way that some people had imagined suchbol 07:16 AM 09th Jun
it would.) The PSA did not renew the agitation,
though the assurances given to us by the Govt
regarding quick conduct of the review DPC was
not fulfilled.
22. Instead , without undertaking the base level
DPC of PEX to JTS, the PSA then supported and
contributed to the further regularization of
ineligible persons to the higher grades of the STS,
JAG, and SAG grade of Production cadre of
IBPS. .(i.e Producers who would have been
reverted if a review DPC is done as per rules.) suchbol 07:16 AM 09th Jun
This action supported by the PSA, is equivalent to
building the first , second and third floor of a
building, knowing fully well that the court has
ordered the demolition of the ground floor and
has directed for the construction of a new
building on a fresh foundation .
23. How did the PSA manage to support the
regular DPCs to higher posts without doing the
JTS level review DPC? Well, the PSA had filed a
case pleading for regularization of persons who suchbol 07:17 AM 09th Jun
were on ad hoc posts for a long time. As per rules,
persons cannot be continuously placed on ad hoc
without doing regular DPC’s. The court hence
gave the PSA a favorable verdict. Using this
verdict, the PSA filed a contempt case stating that
regular DPCs were not being conducted to
different levels of the IBPS. The PSA was aware,
that by conducting a regular DPC for instance
STS of Production, they would be regularizing
the Producers and a regular DPC without
involving the PEXs was illegal. However, they
chose to ignore this illegality . Sensing the
damage that PSA was trying to do, AUPO filed an
impleadment application in the PSA contempt
case. AUPO wanted to point out to the Court that
such regularization being done for higher level
posts without doing the JTS level review DPC
was illegal. The PSA vociferously opposed our
impleadment application on the grounds that
AUPO was not a party to their regular DPC case.
Thus , with the help of the PSA Contempt case,
and with the active support of the PSA and
Producers , Government regularized the adhoc
persons to STS and higher levels .(Producers) .
24. It is important that everyone understands that
it was through the efforts and active support of
the PSA , that ineligible Producers due for
reversion in the JTS review DPC case were
further regularized in the STS cadre of IBPS..
This is how the PSA used its contempt case in the suchbol 07:17 AM 09th Jun
regular DPC case to once again damage the PEXs
and illegally promote ineligible Producers to STS
etc. The direction of the Hon’ble Court in
AUPO’s case that PEXs are eligible for IBPS
production posts was completely ignored.
25. We would like to ask the PSA how they can
justify the regular DPCs for higher posts in STS,
JAG of production in the IBPS without including
suchbol 07:18 AM 09th Jun
the PEXs? Thanks to the PSA, today there is not
even one person from the PEX cadre in the
Production cadre from JTS to SAG.
26. The PSA is , we understand, reviving the
same contempt petition to conduct regular DPC
for DDG level posts. They hope to regularize
suchbol 07:18 AM 09th Jun
many ineligible appointees not covered by the
statutory rules (such as science officers) as
DDGs.
27. The PSA also states in the Broad vision that
the problem of stagnation in the PEX and Trex
cadre can be removed only if the review DPC to suchbol 07:19 AM 09th Jun
JTS takes place at the earliest. AUPO would also
like everyone to understand that the question of
stagnation arises only if there are no vacancies.
Here , we have plenty of vacancies. A situation of
artificially created stagnation has been caused by
violation of statutory rules and non inclusion of
eligible persons (PEXs) in the DPCs. If a review
DPC is conducted as per rules, the artificial
stagnation/ structure supported by the PSA will
fall down. Station Directors from the staff artists
cadre will be reverted. Senior PEXs will get
multiple promotions .
28. The PSA says that review DPC is to be done
for JTS levels. The PSA tries to claim that regular
DPCs have already been done for other levels.
The PSA says that such and such number of
vacancies are to be filled. Why are these
vacancies not being filled? Is AUPO preventing
the DPCs from taking place? Everyone knows suchbol 07:19 AM 09th Jun
that AUPO has filed a contempt against Secretary
I&B and DG,AIR for not conducting the review
DPC and has been fighting hard to implement the
judgment. How can anyone even try to suggest
that we are trying to obstruct the conduct of the
review DPC?
29. The truth is that review DPC is to be done to
all posts in JTS, followed by regular DPC’s to all
posts in STS, JAG, SAG etc and that too for the
last 18 years (from 1990 to the present) . The suchbol 07:20 AM 09th Jun
regular DPCs done (with PSA support from STS
onwards ) without undertaking the review DPC to
JTS is illegal .
30. Those serving in STS Production and above
have been illegally regularized without
considering even a single PEX who has been
unpromoted for 27 years. These persons are in
grave danger of being reverted, if the review DPC
is done as per statutory rules. AUPO has all along
been fighting for the quick conduct of the review
DPC. It is understandable that the Producers may
not be interested in conducting a review DPC as suchbol 07:20 AM 09th Jun
per rules. After all, they are only trying to protect
their interests. But the role of the PSA to
obstructing the conduct of review DPC as per
statutory rules and prescribed eligibility
conditions is really sad. Their role in trying to
protect the Producer’s at the cost of the Pex’s is
agonizing. AUPO’s stance is simple. Follow the
RULES!
31. To conduct this review DPC , a combined
seniority list of Pexs and Producers had been suchbol 07:20 AM 09th Jun
created by the Department. In this list , the date of
contractual service of Producers has been shown
as regular service and Producers who entered on
contract upto 1985 have been placed enbloc over
even UPSC recruited Pexs from 1977. Why did
the PSA not object to it? Is the PSA not aware of
the statutory rules ? Are they not aware of the
difference between a regular government servant
and a contractual employee? Are they suggesting
that date of engagement on contract can be
substituted for regular service? The PSA is trying
to defend not only this but also the inclusion of
non eligible persons in the list?
32. The IBPS rules state that 3 years regular
service in the grade of Pex /Producer is required
to be eligible for promotion. This eligibility
cannot be violated or compromised by
anyone.(As on today someone who was engaged
on contract in 1984 and was given an option to be
regularized as government servant in 1991 is
deemed as senior to a 1982/1983 regular UPSC
suchbol 07:21 AM 09th Jun
Pex.) This has been done by illegally treating the
persons date of engagement on contract as regular
service. This review DPC should necessarily
correct this irregularity, blatant violation of
statutory rules and DOPT norms - something that
has also been clarified in umpteen court
judgments, including the historic Uma Devi
judgment.
33. The PSA should not try to pretend that some
order issued by the Ministry or S VII section in
DG, AIR in say 1988 or 1991 is sufficient to make
all staff artists engaged on contract , regular
government servants retrospectively from the date
that they first entered into contract.! So any order
suchbol 07:21 AM 09th Jun
,or file notings or pious intentions are not worth
the paper it is written on. In the constitutional
bench judgment of Uma Devi, the Supreme Court
observed in para 5 “ no government order,
notification or circular can be substituted for the
statutory rules framed under the law”.
34. As you know, Staff Artists were made
Government servants by two schemes. The first
scheme was the 1982 Scheme. According to the
first scheme, erstwhile staff artists engaged on
contract before the cut off date of 28-2-1982 suchbol 07:21 AM 09th Jun
could opt to be made Government servants with
effect from 6th March 1982 . (So regular
government service of the first group of staff
artists/artists starts only on 6th March 1982.).
35. A second group of staff artists/ artists were suchbol 07:22 AM 09th Jun
also given the option of becoming government
servant according to the second scheme of
November 1991. (So the regular government
service of the second group of persons obviously
can start only in November 1991. )
36. Many of you may have come across the recent
DOPT order No. 35034/3/2008-Estt.(D) dated
19th May 2009 which has been issued for
Modified ACP Scheme. , If you see para 9 of this
order it states that “Service rendered on
adhoc/contract basis before regular appointment
cannot be taken into account” . Moreover , as
pointed out above , there are countless supreme suchbol 07:22 AM 09th Jun
court judgments including the constitutional
bench judgment in the Uma Devi case that states
the same thing. A persons contractual service
cannot be equated as regular government service.
What is the PSA’s answer to this? When does the
regular service of a contractual person regularized
in November 1991 start according to the PSA?
37. What is most important is that persons
engaged on contract after 28-2-1982 are not even
included in the programme cadre so far as per the
existing rules. Some of them are not even staff
artists. They were merely engaged on renewable suchbol 07:23 AM 09th Jun
monthly/ six monthly contracts. They are hence
not eligible as per rules. The Department has also
agreed that as on date these persons are not
eligible as per rules.
38. Is the PSA suggesting that the statutory rules
should again be violated? What do they mean
when they say there are only 3 Science Officers
or 97 Producers etc. The PSA simply has to
clarify whether these persons are covered by the
existing rules or not ? And when do these persons
regular service start? The PSA says that these
persons have been included in the seniority list
for 20 years. They say , that removing these
persons (even though they are not eligible and
covered by the rules) would become legally suchbol 07:23 AM 09th Jun
complicated. Well, this is a very funny argument.
When confronted with the evidence as to why
UPSC recruited Pexs eligible as per rules for 2
decades have not received their promotions, the
PSA comes up with a funny argument. A review
DPC has to be done as per rules. A review DPC is
done if eligible persons have been left out /or if
ineligible persons have been left out. Since
ineligible persons have been included , they must
be left out now.
39. The fact is that some persons who were
engaged on contract and were made regular
government servants some time in 1991 by virtue
of some scheme , and are as on date not covered
by the statutory rules governing the regular
programme cadre have illegally become our
superiors and written our CRs. This was done by
suchbol 07:23 AM 09th Jun
violating the statutory RRs. Evidence received
through RTI etc has been given to the department.
Such illegality cannot be permitted to continue. In
any case, AUPO or PSA or PSWA , or even the
courts , or the Government have no authority to
trifle with the statutory rules which were notified
by an Act of Parliament.
40. The PSA also suggests in Broadvision that
PEXs are suffering and review DPC has been
held up because of a string of cases filed on issues
like discipline wise promotion and work
allocation, seniority list, notification of duties and
responsibilities of IB(P) S officers etc. There is suchbol 07:24 AM 09th Jun
absolutely no truth in this statement. The truth is
that there is not even a single case holding up the
review DPC. None of these cases, mentioned by
the PSA stand in the way of conduct of the review
DPC.
41. In fact, the Government is under severe
pressure because of the contempt filed by AUPO
and PSWA for not conducting the review DPC to
suchbol 07:24 AM 09th Jun
the IBPS . Even the courts are finding it difficult
to show leniency to the Government after five
years.
42. The rules prior to the IBPS(i.e the 1984 Group
A & B Rules) have also been violated to the suchbol 07:24 AM 09th Jun
disadvantage of the PEXs.
i. The Group B rules by which the Producers were
encadered in the grade of PEX specify separate
seniority lists for Producers and the PEXS. The
suchbol 07:25 AM 09th Jun
irregularities in the recently created combined
eligibility list of Pexs and Producers is a violation
of the rules.
II. Response to PSA view point on issues raised
by AUPO /PSWA in the meetings with
suchbol 07:25 AM 09th Jun
administration.(Points a,b,c, and d of Broadvision
)
43. AUPO and PSWA were invited to these
meetings because of the contempt filed by AUPO suchbol 07:25 AM 09th Jun
and PSWA to undertake review DPC to IBPS
urgently as per statutory rules. The PSA has no
role in this case or contempt. However, they came
to the meeting and loudly opposed AUPO and
PSWA. The views expressed by PSA in the
meeting have been reproduced in a much milder
and polite form in Broadvision. Clarifications to
points a to d are given below.
( point a) i) The PSA view is that the review DPC
should include even ineligible persons(engaged
on contract after 28-2-1982) from the Producer
category ( as they had been included in the past) .
ii) The PSA suggests that ineligible persons must
be protected and retained in the eligibility list
even though they are not eligible as per the
statutory rules. (to avoid legal complications)
iii)To justify the inclusion of ineligible persons,
the PSA refers to a SVII order No. 10/21/83-S VII
dated 15th/16th February 1985. The PSA should
scan this document and put it on the website so
that everyone can see and understand if S VII
section through this order can regularize persons
engaged on contract as GROUP B Government
servants of gazetted rank! We are amazed that
PSA is trying to establish that S VII section of
DG:AIR has the power and authority to replace
UPSC to recruit regular Group B Gazetted
Officers for the Govt of India? iv) The PSA says
regularization of these persons was also done vide
Ministry of I &B Order No. 45011/29/91-B(A)
dated 29.11.1991. This is the Scheme of 1991 suchbol 07:35 AM 09th Jun
which we have referred to earlier. As per this
scheme staff artists/artists (performing artists who
had not been included in the 1982 scheme) were
given an opportunity to opt to become
government servants. This scheme is actually not
applicable to Producers. However, even if it were
applicable, a contractual staff artist who opted to
become government servant as per the Nov 1991
scheme cannot become a regular government
servant before the scheme came into being . We
would like the PSA to let everyone know when
the regular service of contractual persons
regularized by 1991 scheme will start? Through
the 1991 Scheme many Staff Artists termed as
performing Artists ( eg.Musicians such as Sarangi
Player, Violinist etc and Announcers,
Newsreaders, etc who had been left out of the
1982 Scheme were made government servant.
However, they were not made eligible to become
Pex or Asst. Station Director. So just because
some one was made a government servant in
1991 it does not give the person automatic entry
to the programme cadre in the absence of
statutory rules to permit entry. (point b.) What
AUPO actually had said and is saying is that in
the combined eligibility list ( prepared as per
UPSC requirements) the following points needs
to be corrected. i. only persons eligible as per
statutory rules can be included in any list. About
130 persons i.e from s.no. 179 to 309 in the
eligibility list prepared by the department have to
be deleted as they are not eligible as per cut off
date specified in the statutory rules. ii. In the
combined eligibility list, the date of entering into
contractual service has wrongly been passed off
as regular service. This has been done to give
undue advantage to the Producers. Since,
producers recruited by the 1982 scheme were
made government servant on 6th March 1982, no
Producer can have a seniority prior to this date.
There is no way that Pexs from 1977 to 1982 can
be placed below any Producer.
(point c) : PSA states that AUPO is saying that
Producers are not eligible before 1987. We are
afraid that the PSA is confusing the eligibility
prescribed in statutory rules of 1984 with the
eligibility prescribed in the IBPS rules. The PSA
is also unnecessarily linking the review DPC from
1982 to 1989 (the Ashraf Lone case ) with the
IBPS review DPC (from 1990 onwards) without
any understanding of the matter. Though the
matter is not connected to the IBPS review DPC
we are clarifying the position. i. As per the IBPS
rules only three years regular service in the grade
of Pex or Producer is required for JTS, so there is
no question of AUPO stating that 5 years regular
service is required. ii. Five years regular service is
required for DPC’s prior to the IBPS. Upto suchbol 07:45 AM 09th Jun
1989(pre –IBPS) , DPC’s have to be held as per
the Group A rules of 1984. The said rules specify
five years regular service in the grade of
Pex/Producer/Pex Grade ( Pex grade includes Pex
selection grade, Producer Gr.I and Science
Officer.) . This eligibility is not AUPO’s new
demand. It is a statutory requirement for the
review DPC for the period from 1982 to 1989 and
cannot be waived. iii. PSA has also pointed out
that the five year eligibility prescribed in the 1984
rules have been clearly turned down by CAT ,the
High Court and the Ministry of I &B. This is a
half truth. Through this half truth , the present
leadership of the PSA clearly reveals its stand that
contractual service of Producers rendered prior to
being made government servants in 1982 can be
treated as regular service. iv. You may already be
aware that in the Ashraf Lone judgment , the J&K
High court directed the Department to identify
posts of ASD existing in AIR and Doordarshan
from 6th March 1982 to December 1989 and then
conduct DPC as per service rules and eligibility
conditions.
v. The Department said that this meant that the
Producers have to be allocated posts of ASD from
1982 onwards. vi. AUPO’s plea before the CAT,
High Court and now before the Supreme Court is
that the J&K High Court is not being
implemented properly. The J&K high court did
not say to ignore rules and eligibility from 1982
while conducting the review DPC. vii. In the
Ashraf Lone case, AUPO in its case stated that
since the rules came into existence only on 23rd
March 1984, the Producers regular service in the
grade of Pex can start at the earliest only from
1984. AUPO also pleaded that since, the rules
prescribe screening by UPSC, service in the grade
can start only after the screening. Ministry, CAT
and the High Court turned down AUPO’s plea.
However, when turning down the plea, the court’s
said that they saw no reason to interfere with the
Ashraf Lone court judgment which specified the
cut off date as 6-3-1982. viii. AUPO”s plea has
suchbol 07:46 AM 09th Jun
been admitted in the Supreme Court.ix. To avoid
any delay’s in any review DPC, AUPO has said
that until the matter is decided in the Supreme
Court , the cut off date of becoming government
servant of 6th March 1982 may be taken into
account. x. It is also most important to know that
in the Ashraf Lone judgment it is clearly specified
that contractual service rendered prior to 6-3-
1982 by the Producers cannot be taken into
account. The PSA is aware of that. Point d : Issue
relating to science officers- AUPO has
merelypointed out the fact that those who are not
eligible as per statutory rules cannot be included
in the programme cadre. The 1982 scheme covers
only Science Officers who were on long term
contract as on 28-2-1982.(such as Sh. G. Jaylal) .
The rules also provide for their fitment in the
appropriate grade in the programme cadre based
on their qualification, record of service and
experience.
i. To clarify the point, we shall illustrate with
examples. Sh. G. Jaylal, is a contractual science suchbol 07:46 AM 09th Jun
officer who was engaged on contract with M.Sc
qualification in 1978.. He was as per the 1982
scheme given the option to become regular
government servant on 6th March 1982 and hence
his government service starts on that date. He was
to be encadered in the appropriate grade in the
programme cadre as per rules based on his,
qualification, record of service and experience.ii.
Shri Dhiranjan Malvey, joined as PEX through
UPSC, in 1977.(one year before Sh. G. Jaylal
entered on contract). Mr Malvey is also an M.SC
(Gold medallist). When Sh. Jaylal was made
government servant in 1982, Sh. Malvey had 6
years regular service already in the grade of
Programme Executive. iii. The gazette
notification of 23.10.1984 also specified that the
minimum qualification of a PEX was M.A/M.SC.
(Please note the qualification of Sh. Jaylal is only
the minimum qualification prescribed by UPSC
for a PEX). iv. The notification equated Science
Officer (fee scale of 700 ) with Pex selection
grade (Pay scale 700). v. The notification of 1984
(i.e statutory rules) does not state as PSA suggests
that persons will be entered into the programme
cadre on the basis of their fee scale. The rules
state , we repeat - that i) the persons qualification,
ii) record of service and iii) experience has to be
taken into account by screening committee of
UPSC for appropriate fitment in the programme
grade. On all three counts, Sh. G. Jaylal cannot be
fitted ahead of Sh. Malvey. vi. The rules also state
that a Pex becomes Pex selection grade in 11
years . Thus , Mr Malvey becomes eligible to
become Pex selection grade only in 1988. Mr
Jaylal , cannot be eligible to become Pex
Selection grade or be fitted into that category
before Mr Malvey , or before completion of 11
years service. (even if it includes his contract
service). vii. The case of erstwhile contractual suchbol 07:47 AM 09th Jun
science officers - Smt Aparna Vaish, Shri
Hrishikesh Pani and Smt Deepa Chandra are
totally different., as they are not covered by either
the 1982 scheme , or the 1984 rules. They are also
not covered as per the IBPS rules. They were
recruited on contract and have only the minimum
qualifications prescribed for Pexs. The records
show that the Ministry issued an order No.
45011/27/88-b(A)-Vol.II on 23rd May 1988
stating that they have opted to become
government servant in pursuance of Ministry’s
scheme of 3rd May 1982. viii. The Ministry’s
1982 scheme is only for those on long term
contract as on cut of date of 28-2-1982 . Smt
Aparna Vaish, was engaged on short term contract
in September 1983 , Shri Hrishikesh Pani in April
1984 and Smt Deepa Chandra in Sept 1984. The
earliest they would have been eligible for a long
term contract was after 3 years , i.e in 1986 and
1987. ix. On the cut off date of 28-2-1982, Smt
Aparna Vaish, Shri Hrishikesh Pani and Smt
Deepa Chandra neither had a long term contract
or had even been engaged by Doordarshan/All
India Radio. The rules also clearly specify a cut
off date of 28-2-1982. Hence, this so called
Ministry order and option given to these staff
artists in 1988 was illegal. Even, if the order had
been legal, they are still not covered under the
rules. If they were regularized on 23rd May 1988
( with qualification similar to Pexs) , AUPO asks
on what basis , persons who entered the system in
violation of the scheme, the recruitment rules and
have only the minimum qualification of Pexs can
be due for DDG posts now.
x. We must all remember that there are many
persons with higher qualifications recruited
through UPSC serving with no promotions. An
M.Tech from IIT Sh. R.C. Gopal, who joined as a
Pex through UPSC in 1983 is serving without a
single regular promotion for 26 years! He is an ad
hoc ASD. Sh. Laxmi Shankar Vajpai, is an M.sc
gold medallist in Physics was recruited by UPSC
in 1980. This issue has to be seen in this context.
xi. It is also very funny how persons regularized
as government servants on 23rd May 1988 can be
made ASD’s from 1.1.1986 ,! (III). 1. The PSA
has also referred in Broadvision to a whole series
of court cases brought up in the context of review
DPC’s - Maya Israni case, Ashraf Lone case, suchbol 07:47 AM 09th Jun
Chetan Naik case, S.D. Shastri case and then the
Sachidanand Singh case, AUPO’s case, PSWA
case etc . Without going into more details, we
would like to ask the PSA whether any of these
cases are obstructing or coming in the way of the
review DPC to production posts of the IBPS.?
Since, the answer is NO, we are not offering any
further clarification at this point. We would only
like to say that Maya Israni , Chetan Naik ,S.D.
Shastri and Sachidanand Singh are UPSC Pexs
who as individuals fought against violation of
statutory rules, without the support of the PSA.
Since, their Association abdicated from its
responsibility , and declined to safeguard the
basic interests of regularly appointed persons,
they went to court.
Thats great SUCHBOL encyclopedia but whats
going to happen next Aupo ,Pswa and Psa is there
! whats the outcome a few thousand programme
personnel divided into three associations,whats
the outcome?The Pexs who joined in between the wow 10:54 AM 09th Jun
age of 30-35 yrs 1986 batch will start retiring in
2011 onwards,what a fun?Jiski Dafli uska
Rag,nothing concrete except allegations and
Tharik Pe Tharikh...........?
Suchbol you should also request your friends in
AUPO / PSWE to allow such shouts in their
website. They should also have the courage to say
why they have not followed the policy of quota-
rota in the 1986 batch of pex seniority list, why
they were silent for two long years when PSWA
was supporting induction of supervisors, why
some persons close to AUPO always find their
vaibhav 05:54 PM 09th Jun
name in foreign tours and also how some persons
are never ever transferred out of delhi, whereas
many pexs outside delhi are routinely transferred
?Suchbol democracy and free exchange of views
is a two way process and a clear reading of PSA
broadvision brings out your friends folly in the
name of selective interpretations of rules /
judgements and notifications.
We UPSC pexs have been consistantly misled by
AUPO as they have not got us any benefit in the
last ten years. We have to thank PSWA for step up
roshan 06:01 PM 09th Jun
and PSA for the recent ACP order. But it is time
for AUPO to have a constuctive agenda than the
single point agenda of attacking PSA.
Whether AUPO is having elected body. If there,
kindly let them declare who are president,
secretary, general secretary, etc. Where is the
elected body and what are the by laws. Whether it
is collecting life membership or yearly
membership or it is funded by someone. Where is
the account maintained. If they want to shout let
them shout their shoutbox. THIS SHOUT BOX ashok 07:50 PM 09th Jun
IS PURELY MAINTAINED BY PSA PEOPLE,
FOR THE PSA PEOPLE ONLY. Other than PSA
people don't shout in this box. Let us don't dig old
case. Let us sincerely thanks to PSA, ARTEE, and
SSA to implement MACP order by our dept. Let
us hope V paycommission ACP order will be
implemented soon.
That Suchbolji like pexs are just parrots repeating anonymous 09:22 PM 09th Jun
allegations made by AUPO's life time president is
once again proved by just one point of Suchbolji.
Sh Jayalal was a science officer, no doubt but he
was appointed in 1990 as STS by UPSC. His
present position is not because of him being a
science officer originally. Maybe AUPO should
pick a fight with UPSC!
In Suchbol's pravachanam "it may be legally
correct but not as per rules" takes the cake. hahaha 12:25 PM 10th Jun
hahaha
Dear Sirs what about extended ACP
,administration people have started the process of
wow 01:53 PM 10th Jun
granting July's increment without consindering
MACP ?
what happened to central PSA's directive to all
unit reps to give letter to their heads of office to
anonymous 05:19 PM 10th Jun
implement the new MACP order? Was it done?
What was the response?
In Karnataka, Karwar unit was submitted a letter
to Head of Office to speedy implement MACP
order to programme staff. If any body want copy
ashok 10:22 AM 11th Jun
they can mail to my email address:
ashokair@yahoo.co.in. Till today there is no
response from DDG Office South Zone.
Ashok ji at many places Babus straightaway
declined to consider Macp order as till date
wow 08:16 AM 12th Jun
it(MACP ORDER) appeared on
Airnet????????????
Main confusion on MACP order is due to non
wow 08:25 AM 12th Jun
posting of the order on AIRNET?
Babus will try to find a way to decline even if the
order is posted on the airnet. Who does the
posting on the airnet? Babus or one of the prog anonymous 09:07 AM 12th Jun
staff? But come to think of it the prog staff in
Delhi are babus themselves:-)
shout deleted for vulgar language. doctor 03:31 PM 12th Jun
See the latest uploads. Ganesh 08:24 AM 14th Jun
now atleast you understand the level of
frusration?i'm sure everybody has the same
doctor 03:37 PM 12th Jun
feeling on you,but they dont express out of
decency which i dont have
Dear President please let us know how many of
the direct pexs were our members and how many hahaha 09:00 AM 14th Jun
have resigned?
PRESIDENT SHOULD CLARIFY CLEARLY suchbol 09:25 PM 14th Jun
WHATS THE STATUS OF PRODUCTION
ASSISTANTS, FLOOR MANAGERS,
PROPERTY ASSISTANTS, CAMERAMEN,
EDITORS, MAKEUP ARTIST, GRAPHIC
ARTISTS, FLOOR ASSISTANTS, SCENIC
DESIGNER, LIGHTING ASSISTANTS ETC.
OF DOORDARSHAN
This suchbol is bloody spy sometime represents
aupo ,just watch now what he is doing,he must be wow 10:10 PM 14th Jun
one of the ha ha ha's!
Dear suchbol, i think you are from All india radio,
because all the cadres you have mentioned have
their own association and in fact cameramen have
two associations, and the editors /graphic artists
have an association with trivandrum as
headquarters and also recently an association has roshan 09:14 AM 15th Jun
been started by staff members working in
DDK,Kolkata. Hence if at all you have any
questions regarding these cadres you should ask
the respective associations. Please do not
unnecessarily waste your time.
isn't aupo itself a disgruntled assn?! anonymous 08:29 AM 15th Jun
Anonymous ji earlier this suchbol posted aupos
wow 08:12 AM 15th Jun
clarification in shoutbox!
wowji suchbolji is not s a spy because there is
nothing secret going on here or in PSA. Possibly
a disgruntled element(aren't we all?!) who has anonymous 07:40 AM 15th Jun
nowhere to go or afraid to go. One thing is
certain. He is from DD.
Anonymous ji its not only disgruntled but
eccentric,self centred,over wow 09:42 AM 15th Jun
confident,baseless,selfish association!
Our cricket team is also..:-) anonymous 10:44 AM 15th Jun
hello sirs,at last MACP orders find a place in our
site.it still not reached our offices.office staff
asks:'where is that order?without orders we can
not move a file for ACP to prog staff.we have to
implement it.but...dear friends,some are wasting
time to list out large no of shouts with out any prasanth 01:08 PM 15th Jun
stuff.pl b brief in comments rather than attack.we
shud discuss the future course of action.what
happened to BACIL appointment?Result of RTI
filing?PB's policies.Pay fixation as per new
MACP order.pl discuss these matters.thank u
i had a dream when i was a unit secretary of PSA prasanth 11:09 PM 15th Jun
IN 1996.(after that,i was made three times unit
sec).for each and every quierry,i get specific and
timely reply from top office bearers.but i was
severly disappointed then.now i feel some
relief.mr sreenivasan and mr sanjay are really
doing well with a difference,thanks to this hi-tech
2 way communication shout box of PSA's site.sun
rises with bright rays of hope.Not bekos we got
MACP order,but of the sincere efforts mr
sreenivasan and mr sanjay execute day by
day.now,i feel proud of being a member of PSA..
another doubt from me to the central committee
to enquire.there are 36 identified stations with
Family Welfare programme sections in India
which are being funded by the M/O health and
family welfare.what is the latest position of
prasanth 11:16 PM 15th Jun
funding pattern to these stations?i wish to know
the list of those stations having seperate family
welfare prog sections.i got 2 stations namely AIR
CALICUT and AIR TRIVANDRUM.if other
states can enlist this data,pl provide me sir,thank u
Classification of Posts G.I DOPT,O.M No
11012/7/2008-Estt.(A) dt.17-4-2009 In This O.M
last para no.3 says"In some
ministeries/departments,posts may exist which are
not classified as per norms laid by this deptt. If,
for any specific reason, a Ministry/deptt proposes
to classify the posts differently,it would be
wow 04:03 PM 16th Jun
necessary for the deptt. to send a specific proposal
to DOPT giving full justifications in support of
proposal within three months of this O.M, SO
WHATS OUR BABUS DOING ARE THEY
ASSIGNING THE TREXS THE WORK OF
DDO or sending some proposal to keep them in C
category only????
hi buddy.... I propose the names of the performers
- Sanjaybhai and Srinivasanbhai for their
air_abad 08:24 PM 16th Jun
respective post for the next term.pls support the
proposal.
THE GRADE OF PEX TO BECOME PEX
SELECTION GRADE. RECORDS SHOW
THAT SH. JAYLAL WAS WRONGLY FITTED
AS PEX (SELECTION GRADE) FROM THE
DATE OF HIS JOINING ON CONTRACT AS
AT THE SAME TIME, UPSC RECRUITED suchbol 08:35 PM 16th Jun
PROGRAMME EXECUTIVES COULD NOT
BECOME PEX SELECTION GRADE EVEN
AFTER COMPLETING 25 YEARS OF
REGULAR SERVICE IN THE GRADE OF
PEX! SUCH LARGESSE GIVEN TO SH.
JAYLAL WAS DONE BY VIOLATING
STATUTORY NORMS AND BY GRANTING
HIM UNDUE BENEFITS WHEREAS EVEN
SC/ST PEXS RECRUITED WITH SIMILAR OR
MORE QUALIFICATIONS BY UPSC WERE
DENIED THEIR RIGHTFUL DUES. SH.
JAYLAL, SH. PANI, SMT APARNA VAISH,
AND SMT DEEPA CHANDRA WERE ALSO
ILLEGALLY MADE ASDS
RETROSPECTIVELY FROM 1986. THERE
ARE MANY SUCH CASES THAT WILL
SURFACE UNDER THE EYES OF THE
ENQUIRY COMMITTEE. THIS ASSOCIATION
APPRECIATES THE EFFORTS OF
SH.B.S.LALLI, CEO, PRASAR BHARATI , TO
SET RIGHT MANY WRONG THINGS IN AIR
AND DOORDARSHAN SPECIALLY BY
ORDERING AN IMPARTIAL ENQUIRY
REGARDING ILLEGAL
RECRUITMENTS/PROMOTIONS TO THE
POSTS OF JTS TO SAG OF THE IBPS.
ACTION INITIATED IN THIS MATTER BY
BOTH DDG(A), AIR SH. RAJ KAMAL AND
GM(P) SHRI P.K. PATHAK IS ALSO
ACKNOWLEDGED AND APPRECIATED.IT IS
HOWEVER LEARNT THAT DUE TO VESTED
INTERESTS OPERATING AT DIFFERENT
LEVELS AND UNDER THE PRESSURE OF
THE ILLEGAL DDGS/DIRECTORS OF THE
PROGRAMME CADRE - THERE IS A MOVE
TO FINALISE CADRE REVIEW PROPOSAL
BY IGNORING THE ABOVE MENTIONED
FACTS WITH THE SPECIFIC MOTIVE AND
INTENTION OF FURTHER COMPLICATING
THE ENQUIRIES AND REVIEW DPC’S
RELATED WORKS. IT IS ALSO LEARNT
THAT DG:AIR IS TRYING TO IMPLEMENT
THE SCHEME EQUATING IBPS AND OTHER
ORGANIZED SERVICES WITH THE IAS
(SUBJECT TO A 2 YEAR GAP) THOUGH
THEY ARE AWARE THAT THE IMMEDIATE
IMPLEMENTATION OF THIS SCHEME FOR
THE PROGRAMME CADRE (WITHOUT
CONDUCTING THE PENDING REVIEW
DPCS ORDERED BY HON’BLE COURTS
AND PRIOR TO THE OUTCOME OF THE
ENQUIRY ON THE RECRUITMENT
/PROMOTION SCAM) WOULD AMOUNT TO
ONCE AGAIN GIVING GIVE FURTHER
“UNDUE” BENEFITS TO ILLEGAL AND
INELIGIBLE PERSONS INTERPOLATED
INTO THE IBPS.IN THE CIRCUMSTANCES,
THIS ASSOCIATION REITERATES IT
DEMAND THAT THE BOTH THE CADRE
REVIEW AND EQUATION WITH IAS
SCHEME BE STOPPED IMMEDIATELY AND
KEPT IN ABEYANCE UNTIL THE
COMPLETION OF THE ENQUIRY
REFERRED TO ABOVE AND THE PENDING
REVIEW DPCS FROM 1982-1989 AND 1990
ONWARDS IN THE PROGRAMME CADRE
OF AIR AND DD. IT WOULD INDEED BE A
TRAVESTY OF JUSTICE THAT ILLEGAL
PERSONS CONTINUE TO REAP BENEFITS ,
WHILE A MAJOR PORTION OF THE
REGULAR PROGRAMME CADRE
RECRUITED THROUGH UPSC ARE
STAGNATING FOR 27 YEARS IN THE SAME
GRADE.IT IS REQUESTED THAT DG:AIR,
THE CADRE CONTROLLING AUTHORITY
FOR AIR AND DOORDARSHAN SHOULD BE
DIRECTED TO REFRAIN FROM
IMPLEMENTING THE IAS SCHEME IN THE
PROGRAMME CADRE AND FROM
CHANGING THE CADRE STRUCTURE OF
EXISTING IBPS RULES1990 UNTIL THE
COMPLETION OF PENDING REVIEW
DPCS/OUTCOME OF ENQUIRIES RELATED
TO THE RECRUITMENT/PROMOTION
SCAM IN THE PROGRAMME
CADRE.YOURS SINCERELY, PRAMOD
MEHTAA. PRESIDENT PSWA 9818294349
COPY TO : -HON’BLE PRIME MINISTER OF
INDIA. HON’BLE VICE PRESIDENT OF
INDIA CEO, PRASAR BHARATICABINET
SECRETARY, CABINET SECRETARIAT,
GOVT. OF INDIA.DG, AIRDG,DD CBI ADG,
DDCVO, PRASAR BHARATIALL DDGS
NOTICE BOARD Posted by PSWA of AIR and
Doordarshan (Regd.) at 9:51 AM 0 comments
MONDAY, JUNE 15, 2009 PSA'S CRIMES
CONTINUE PSWA-PM/009/2009 15/06/09 TO
THE HON’BLE MINISTER FOR I&B THE
CEO, MINISTRY OF I&B PRASAR BHARATI,
SHASTRI BHAVAN PTI BUILDING, NEW
DELHI. NEW DELHI-1.THE SECRETARY THE
CHAIRMAN, MINISTRY OF I&B suchbol 08:36 PM 16th Jun
UPSCSHASTRI BHAVAN SHAHJAHAN
ROAD, NEW DELHI. NEW DELHITHE
SECRETARY ALL MEMBERS,DOP&T
PRASAR BHARATI SHAHJAHAN PTI
BUILDING,NEW DELHI NEW DELHI-10001.
SUBJECT: REQUEST FOR STOPPING
/KEEPING IN ABEYANCE OF CADRE
REVIEW TO IBPS AND FEEDER CADRE
AND ALSO THE SCHEME OF EQUATING
ORGANIZED SERVICES LIKE IBPS WITH
THE IAS , UNTIL THE OUTCOME OF
ONGOING ENQUIRIES REGARDING
HUNDREDS OF ILLEGAL
RECRUITMENTS/PROMOTIONS TO
GAZETTED POSTS (FROM PEX TO SAG) IN
THE PROGRAMME CADRE OF AIR AND DD
RESULTING IN LARGE SCALE
RECRUITMENT SCAM AND ALSO PENDING
REVIEW DPCS IN PROGRAMME CADRE
FROM 1982 TO 1989 AND 1990 ONWARDS
RESPECTED MADAM/ SIR, AT THE TIME OF
THE CADRE REVIEW MEETINGS THIS
ASSOCIATION HAS CLEARLY POINTED
OUT THAT THE CADRE REVIEW SHOULD
BE UNDERTAKEN ONLY AFTER THE LONG
PENDING REVIEW DPCS IN THE
PROGRAMME CADRE ARE HELD.
FURTHER, IT WAS ALSO POINTED OUT BY
THIS ASSOCIATION THAT THROUGH RTIS
AND OTHER DOCUMENTS SUFFICIENT
EVIDENCE AND DOCUMENTS HAD BEEN
GIVEN TO THE DEPARTMENT THAT
SHOWED THAT THERE HAD BEEN LARGE
SCALE RECRUITMENT SCAM AND
PROMOTIONS OF ILLEGAL PERSONS TO
THE IBPS. WHEREAS , THE RECORDS OF
UPSC AND SSC RECRUITED PROGRAMME
PERSONNEL ARE AVAILABLE IN THE
DEPARTMENT , EVEN BASIC RECORDS
INCLUDING MODE OF ENTRY ,
APPOINTMENT DETAILS, QUALIFICATIONS
AT THE TIME OF APPOINTMENT,
BACKGROUND ETC OF HUNDREDS OF
OTHER PERSONNEL WHO HAVE BEEN
INDUCTED /INTERPOLATED IN THE
PROGRAMME CADRE AT VARIOUS
PERIODS ARE STRANGELY NOT
AVAILABLE. IT IS ALSO UNDERSTOOD
THAT THERE ARE EVEN CASES WHERE
FROM ONE FAMILY, FIFTY PERSONS HAVE
BEEN ENGAGED ON CONTRACT AND
THEN REGULARIZED. FURTHER, AIR AND
DOORDARSHAN IS THE ONLY
ORGANIZATION , WHERE PERSONS
ENGAGED WITHOUT ANY SPECIALIZED
QUALIFICATION OR KNOWLEDGE OR
TRAINING FOR 72 DAYS IN A YEAR , HAVE
THEN BEEN REGULARIZED AS TREXS AND
GRANTED THE PAYSCALE OF GROUP B
GAZETTED OFFICERS (6500-10500).
SIMILARLY , PERSONS ENGAGED ON
MONTHLY CONTRACT IN 1983/1984 SUCH
AS EXISTING DDGI/CS LIKE SH. H.K. PANI,
SMT DEEPA CHANDRA AND SMT APARNA
VAISH WERE DIRECTLY INDUCTED INTO
CLASS I SERVICE FLOUTING ALL
STATUTORY RULES. EVEN THE FITMENT
OF CONTRACTUAL EMPLOYEE , SH. G.
JAYLAL (WHO SERVED AS ACTING DG,AIR)
INTO CLASS I SERVICE (PEX SELECTION
GRADE) WAS DONE ILLEGALLY AS UPSC
RECRUITED PROGRAMME EXECUTIVES
WITH SIMILAR OR MORE
QUALIFICATIONS HAD AS PER RULES TO
COMPLETE AT LEAST 11 YEARS REGULAR
SERVICE IN
``IT IS ALSO UNDERSTOOD THAT THERE
ARE EVEN CASES WHERE FROM ONE
FAMILY, FIFTY PERSONS HAVE BEEN
ENGAGED ON CONTRACT AND THEN
air_abad 08:54 PM 16th Jun
REGULARIZED.''- UUUUUDdddi BABA, a
very serious finding of PSWA, should be
investigated properly, how a family can be this
big !!
spoilsport!they couldn't get done their review dpc
for last decade now after cadre review pl stop this wow 04:57 AM 17th Jun
and let the cadre review to go on.....!
The issue of equation of Science Officers page
No. 107, point 8.56 and 8.57) recommended
combining the scale of Rs.700-40-1100-50-
shailesh 07:30 AM 17th Jun
1300(Science Officer) to that of Rs.900-40-1100-
50-1400(JTS) to form a common pay scale, ie.
Rs.2200-75-2800-EB-199-4000,
In the case of Science Officers the gazette
notification of 23.10.1984 equated Science
Officers with Programme Executive (Selection
grade), Producer (Selection grade) and Producer
(Grade I) (page No. 13 of notification No.
45011/83/82(1)-BA dated 23.10.1984) as these
grades had a similar basic pay of Rs. 700-1300.
Producer Grade II was clubbed with Programme shailesh 07:31 AM 17th Jun
Executive (ordinary grade) and the scale was Rs.
650-1200. The notification also mentions that the
promotion to JTS shall be made from the two
streams (i.e. Programme Executive & Programme
Executive (Selection Grade) and the promotion
quota to JTS shall be 100% upto 1987 and then
75% thereafter. Later the 4th Central Pay
Commission in its recommendations about pay
scales in different ministries
(Part:1,volume:2,chapter:8 – proposed pay
structure of civilian employees- that the
categories of posts covered by the scales of pay of
Rs. 700-1300, Rs. 700-1600 and Rs. 900-1400
may be given the scale of Rs. 2200-75-2800-EB-
100-4000 which has a span of 21 years.”
This is how all the Science Officer were shown as
entering the JTS grade on 1.1.1986 (the date of
shailesh 07:32 AM 17th Jun
implementation of the 4th Central Pay
Commission.
That is why the later amendments to Group B
service in 1992 and 1993 to clarify the equated shailesh 07:34 AM 17th Jun
cadres of PEX does not mention Science Officers
Later the Ministry of Information & Broadcasting
order 32013/8/89-B(A) dated 25.1.1990 (order
No. 3/90-B(A) placed these Science Officers in
the JTS category subject to their seniority to be shailesh 07:34 AM 17th Jun
decided later. All the pre 1984 Science Officers
were eligible to be treated in JTS on this date
(25.1.1990).
Friends,suchbol,air_abad. and shailesh,let me tell
you that many programme staff like me are now
clear about several issues thanks to PSAs last roshan 07:38 AM 17th Jun
broadvision. Please do not waste the shout box
space by harping on wild and biased allegations.
At least the present PSA is allowing this much of
exchange of views compared to other associations
gurvinder 07:42 AM 17th Jun
like PSWA,AUPO etc which does not even allow
anonymous posting of views in their sites.
I think that if the PSWA is really courageous then
it should file a case agaist the so called illegalities vaibhav 08:48 AM 17th Jun
than keep shouting out allegations
Shouting is easy than filing a case. It needs
money and proof both of which are scarce and all
they have is persecution complex added to their
hahaha 08:58 AM 17th Jun
superiority complex. This is a very volatile blend.
May God save them 'cos they can't save
themselves.
Actually the PSWA's fight is with Sh Jayalal, it
seems. Maybe to please someone at the top and
get some brownie points. Otherwise how can they
ignore his UPSC recruitment to STS. They who anonymous 11:15 AM 17th Jun
boase of so many RTIs and court cases should
know of this also. Maybe they have a blind spot
when it comes to Sh Jayalal!
As per MACP order dt 19.5.09, para 6.2 clearly
mentioned that "In cases where financial
upgradation had been granted to Govt. Servants in
the next higher scale in the hierarchy of their
cadre as per the provisions of the ACP scheme of
August 1999, but whereas as a result of the
implementation of Sixth CPC's recommendations,
the next higher post in the hierarchy of the cadre
has been upgraded by granting a higher grade pay,
the pay of such employees in the revised pay
structure will be fixed with reference to the
highter grade pay granted to the post." Accordiing
to this MACP order in programme cadre
hierarchy TREX promotion cadre is Programme ashok 11:24 AM 17th Jun
Executive with a GRADE PAY Rs. 4800/-. Hence
all TREXs are elilgible for their next grade pay
Rs. 4800/- and not Rs. 4600/-. In Engineering
cadre hierarchy EA(Gr. pay Rs. 4200/-), SEA(Gr.
pay Rs. 4600/-), AE(Gr. pay Rs. 4800/). In the
same manner PEX next hierarchy cadre is ASD
with a Grade of Rs. 5400/-. Hence those who are
compleated 12 years of their service from their
date of joining they are eligilble for next
hierarchy grade pay post. In this context all
Eligible TREXs are getting Rs. 4800/- grade pay
and all eligible PEXs grade pay will be Rs. 5400/-
. am I riight. some body clarify my doubts
Ashok kaash aap ka interpretation sahi hoti but I
think as per MACP Trexs are getting 4600 as GP
while Pexs are getting 5400 Gr,B not Gr A entry
wow 03:42 PM 17th Jun
grade but luckily that is also 5400 except pay
band so as usual lady luck smiled at Pexs Ha Ha
Ha HA's again......./
At last MACP ORDRES ON AIRNET AND
FORMATION OF SCREENING COMMITTEE
wow 06:43 PM 18th Jun
DIRECTIVES ON AIRNET,congrats to PSA
leadership!
WHO IS THE CADRE CONTROLLING
srihari 12:50 PM 19th Jun
AUTHORITY FOR PROGRAMME STFF?
In case of Tr.Exs. Cadre Controlling Authority is
air_abad 05:21 PM 19th Jun
respective DDGs, for higher officers it is DG.
PSWAs demand for stoppage of programme staffs
cadre review is shameful as anonymous posted
that they are having differences with G.Jayalal
then why the are jeopardizing the career of whole wow 04:43 PM 17th Jun
programme staff as every department/ministry has
to submit the cadre review reports to DOPT for
final review by ANOMALY COMMITEE etc in a
STIPULATED TIME ? ITS DISGACEFUL AND
SHAMEFUL STEP ON PART OF PSWA &
AUPO?
hi buddies, i received a buzz out of the air that
some promotion lists are going to pop out from
air_abad 05:26 PM 19th Jun
Dte. on 3rd July. anyone has some info in this reg
?
Though cadre controlling authorities in case of
prog. staff are DDGs/DG, however, to speed up
the process they may assign this task to concerned air_abad 07:06 PM 19th Jun
stn. heads to carry out screening at local levels on
his/her behalf. let's see....
See new uploads. Ganesh 10:43 AM 20th Jun
How these uploads gonna help in present
wow 01:00 PM 20th Jun
scenario?
Wow! bedre 07:12 PM 20th Jun
the uploaded 1984 group B recruitment rules do
not show the posts of science officers and
extension officers in the shedule . the posts of
science officers and extension officers were
gopal 09:05 AM 21st Jun
present in the schedule below the post of
reference officers. this was present in the
documents submitted to the court by the trexs in
the court case. please make the correction.
Dear friends there are some news in Aupo"s blog
ramani 09:19 AM 21st Jun
.Is it all correct ?
Ramani ji whatever is on aupo site its minutes of
meeting but they will not succeede without Trexs wow 11:59 AM 21st Jun
help?
wow or any other friend, can u pls give the links
air_abad 02:03 PM 21st Jun
to pswa and aupo sites?
Do a google search for 'aupotripod' and
'janganman' to get them air_abad and have a nice
laugh...hahaha. It is an eye opener. Most of the
prog staff know that most of these direct upsc
hahaha 02:31 PM 21st Jun
recruitees are good only for admin tasks that too
with help. But they have proved us wrong. So
they are hereby given the 'Best Comedians of AIR
& DD' award.
Friends, see what Sanjay ji has to say...really
ramani 09:26 PM 21st Jun
meaningful !!!
Hahaha and air_abad I would like to once again
state that this shout box is meant for anonymous ramani 09:26 PM 21st Jun
constructive suggestions or open statements in
ones own name.Please do not create bad blood by
criticizing other cadres. You will only be making
mischief by doing it. Wow as for your question as
to the usefulness of these documents I am sure
that the best defence against being misled by a
small group of persons is to bring out all the
relevant documents so that any programme staff
understands the truth. As it is very rightly said,
seek the truth and the truth shall set you free.
Dear gopalji every single document reproduced in
our website are true copies and in some instance
we have not even taken the liberty to correct
spelling nistakes as it would mean our tampering
with originals. If you can SMS me your address I
can send you a true copy of the notification for
your perusal. Moreover we have specifically
mentioned the point raised by you in our last
broadvision in answer number.D and point
number :5. Dear Ramani ji if what AUPO or
PSWA are saying is true and if they have so much
of incriminating documents then they should
straight away file a case against all these
wrongdoings than wasting their time on repeated
allegations. Sanjay kumar,President PSA
Sorry President. I have withdrawn the award. But
how long we are going to be such nice-nice
hahaha 08:37 AM 22nd Jun
losers. If they are entitled to speak the lies are we
not entitled to speak the truth?!
kindly clarify how will calculate MACP
vijaykumar 12:00 PM 22nd Jun
calculation
kindly clarify how will calculate MACP
vijaykumar 12:00 PM 22nd Jun
calculation
ARTEE on agitational
Path,http://www.arteeindia.org/news&events/mib/
agitation_notice_16062009.pdf DEMANDING
4600 Gp for EAs w.e.f 1/1/2006 Old Vth cpc ACP
is also in demand,5400 GP for AEs is also in
demand,EARLY implementation of cadre review
also in demand They have shooted a letter to Smt.
wow 04:57 PM 22nd Jun
Ambica Soni Hon MIB ,Have WE(PSA) written
or thinking of writing such letter to MIB,ARE
WE AWAKE,Pswa & Aupo also have plans for
coming Budget session ,ARE SATISFIED WITH
THE MACP LOLLIPOP which is still to be
implemented ? or we will demand after them
Pichlo Chalo Policy?
hi ganesh, i am trying to open the shout box
archives but is the files are not opening.pl guide. i air_abad 07:32 PM 22nd Jun
just wanted to know since how long i am ignoring
these hahahas, even though they've spoiled lives
of Tr.Exes. like me. i am not paying any attention
to these buddies, still the prez is warning me. it
resembles to the well known official affair i.e. for
any lapes in the office, one omnipresent question
is raised...` DO ne kya kiya'. (DO ne kuchh nahi
kiya sir, aur DO bechara kuchh kar bhi nahi
sakta). prez sir, pls dont behave like a typical
hahaha. i've not said anything to anybody, neither
i consider them a different cadre, i still hope.... ek
din main bhi vaisa hi ban jaunga. pls dont
misunderstand me....buhuuhoooohu...slurp...
Air_bad I do agree with u but my question went
down in your long explaination buhubuhuhu ha wow 10:15 PM 22nd Jun
ha's
The files in the shout box archives don't open like
a document. Rather you have to download them
and open or save and open. They are in odt format
which will open in open office but MS office may Ganesh 10:25 PM 22nd Jun
behave differently. I will try to save the files in
doc format so that it can be opened universally.
Sorry for the inconvenience.
As I have posted earlier Artee,Aupo & Pswa are
eyeing the coming Budget Session for
highlighting their grievences,What is PSAs
stand?don't we have any grievences?have we
welcomed Hon'ble MIB smt ambika soni and
aprised her of our problems if yes ,then please
upload that communique that will give us some wow 08:16 AM 23rd Jun
hopes rather than these complicated leagal doci,pl
do it before 2nd july ie starting date of Budget
session,pl pull up your/our socks & be in time,our
most of problems are due to not approaching
authorties in time,while Artee has rightly/timely
planned its agitation?
Dear air_bad I could not understand who is this
RAMANI,on 21st June ramani asked question
about Aupos blog then posts preachings from
Sanjay ji on 21st JUNE itself any
intruder,sensatising our fellow beings through this
shout box invites allegations of becoming rumour wow 11:16 AM 23rd Jun
monger its not good for unity its an open forum
we can come out with any constructive ideas for
the betterment of our fellows,prez must fix a day
to answer the querries raised in the shotbox but
not in the disguise of RAMANI?
Hi wow I was also confused at first. But then
found that Ramani had copied and pasted the Ganesh 02:13 PM 23rd Jun
guest book entry on 21st by our president.
Ganesh, i doubt tht posting was from Prez, he
cant do that, pls check the IP address and expose air_abad 04:28 PM 23rd Jun
the truth.
wow, ur so innocent.u wrote-`my question went
down in your long explaination buhubuhuhu ha
ha's,' Dear, Answer is simple, let them sow the air_abad 04:39 PM 23rd Jun
seed, we will share the fruits.this is wht we've did
till now. is'nt it?
Thanx Ganesha my freind & air_bad ji but I still
want to keep alive the coming budget session wow 04:48 PM 23rd Jun
proposal.
dear president and genl. secy, please be aware of
the fact tha the sao of air trivandrum has refused
to take up the work of macp on the grounds that
the trexs should be first refixed in Rs.5000/ basic
pay and then only they should be given acp. My
feeling is that, this is a planned work by the
comrade 06:35 PM 23rd Jun
admin people. please look into this matter quickly
and solve the same as soon as possible, because,
the admin people will send across the dame
arguments to othr states and try stopping the
entire process. please treat this as urgent. please
contact trivandrum sd and do the needful.
comrade,prez would like to once again state that
this shout box is meant for anonymous
constructive suggestions or open statements in
ones own name.Please do not create bad blood by
criticizing other cadres. You will only be making air_abad 08:00 PM 23rd Jun
mischief by doing it. if ur sao is refusing to give
macp, his interpretation should be respected. sds
are not listening wht psa can do? am i right, dear
prez?
Pichlo chalo policy first let us see how engnn
cadre gets this macp thing done then we will
follow the suite,AN APEAL IF SOME STATION
IS FOLLOWING THIS MACP SINCERELY
FOR ENGNN & PROG THEN PLEASE
wow 09:05 PM 23rd Jun
UPLOAD THE DETAILS,and air_abad sir pl dil
pe mat lo yaar,do u know these ha ha ha's also
don't want acp they just want review dpc & not
even cadre review,where should the trexs go in
this mad bad world ?
Dear friends, SAO of Trivendram may be MAD.
Where he got Rs. 5000/- scale for TREXs. Our
scale was fixed from 1978 onwards notionally
ashok 11:16 AM 24th Jun
and we got arrears from 1.1.96 and it was
approved by DoPT. Scale was given by Govt. and
passed by parliment.
dear sanjay ji I am still saying that there is some
omissions in the uploaded group B recruitment
rules schedule.one more thing I want to tell u is
that pl dont waste your time and energy in finding gopal 12:28 PM 24th Jun
documents in support of staff artists. pl do
something to get the rightful promotion to the
regular programme cadres like trexs and pexs.
Gopal you also should stop lying and start resding
the documents as they are. Thank you prez for i
am a PEX and had never seen a copy of all these
relevant documents. If only some of us had access roshan 04:41 PM 24th Jun
to these documents earlier we would have not
supported some of the leaders of other
associations.
hello air_ bad. enough of your advice. what is that
you are doing now. you are criticising your own
cadre. is it ok. please understand one fact sir. this
shout box is meant to bring out the problems
faced in various places in the entire country. My
appeal was meant only for the president and the comrade 04:55 PM 24th Jun
genl secy. mr.bad! dont be bad enough to create
misunderstandings between kerala and the central
unit. AND MORE THAN ANYTHING ELSE
STOP YOUR 'HOLIER THAN THOU
ATTITUDE'.
Roshan ji, pranam and thanx. Gopalji, we can see
that till date people like SAO, Thiruanantpuram
have ruled. And people of opposite nature aaj tak air_abad 05:00 PM 24th Jun
kuchh tod nahi paye, except rebucking their own
people.
comrade, i tried to ignore u, but failed.tell me one
thing.... r u one of the hahaha's. seems so.u r air_abad 05:03 PM 24th Jun
forgiven.
Comrade cant take or understand a tongue in
hahaha 05:27 PM 24th Jun
cheek comment. Ofcourse he is a hahaha.
he is posing himself synonymous to kerala.ha ha
ha.... cool, our people are so innocent. (thts why
others think tht they are over paid....!!). Dear,
comrade, have faith, i can never go against my air_abad 05:36 PM 24th Jun
cadre even if i finish. and be sure, i m neither
'HOLIER THAN THOU', nor 'HOLIER THAN
COW'.
ARTEE IS LAUNCHING AGITATION FROM
air_abad 06:57 PM 24th Jun
TOMORROW.
mr.bad! u had earlier mentioned that this shout
box was meant for constructive suggestions comrade 08:46 PM 24th Jun
only.can you tell me , in what way were your
earlier three posts constructive??? I hope u try to
be atleast holier than BULL S......... and by the
way ha ha ha., do not try to become a chamcha to
bad boys. my post was made only to bring to the
notice of the central unit about certain
happenings. i think you have no business to make
comments about it. And mr. ha ha ha ! do not
think that you can make a comment if you have
just a tongue and cheek.try to use ur brain ,
ofcourse if you have one,otherwise you will be a
laughing stock like your name.
After 1998 we have received this MACP please
concentrate on its implementation!be unite
wow 08:57 PM 24th Jun
!otherwise Direct Pex or trex everybody will be at
loosers end!
There are serious attempts to circumvent the
implementatio of macp,most of the stations are
prepairing for July mass increments!I don't know
wow 09:05 PM 24th Jun
that is it necessary to give representation for
implementation of acp individually or not !please
enlighten!
r n message on Artee's agitation they are in
wow 02:21 PM 25th Jun
limelight!wait & watch!
comrade, u r really a f**k. it is only due to such
temperament of urs, tht ur suffering.Central office
is not meant for settling local issues. when
everybody will get macp, u'll also get it, ue sao
cant stop it. okey....pls try to be constructive. the
air_abad 05:01 PM 25th Jun
words u use will only spoil our emage and claim
of being intellectual folk ( hahaha, pls shut up,
dont aggravate bulls by laughing at them ;-D ).
Sir, errr, pls forgive me, cant even be holier than
u.(huffffff....)
comrade sir, r u there? i m signing out for the day,
but really, muze tumse laaaav ho giya he, i'll b
air_abad 09:27 PM 25th Jun
back 2maro to meet ya, make it syare ta come,
okey... bye
Oye comrade sar..... i m betaab far u.... as now ur
originality is exposed, commmm on, speak out,
air_abad 01:07 PM 26th Jun
dont pretend.... ( this post is only for the useless
comrade, all others pls ignor this)
our shout box gets filthy comments.actually i was
watching all with profound silence.regarding
MACP,we are going to face a trouble soon.but
this shout box has been hijacked by some prasanth 09:03 PM 26th Jun
unhealthy comments .dear friends,pl keep this
place clean and tranparent.come out with real
names and designation.artees agitation will fetch
them some results.we all r posting useless
comments
beta prasanth, tum aa gaye? aao, bako, wht
happend abt ur dutychart issue? has the pex(c)
agreed or ur still doing duties alloted by the ancrs
wathching all with profound silence? now a days
good people dont come here, u know! they have
left this place for bad ppl like me and comorade air_abad 09:41 PM 26th Jun
to play our dostana here. leave thinking abt macp,
acp, promotion..... just go on playing `pinch n
pull'.....aha...aha... everybody ( oh, there are only
two of us!) shout aloud..... long live psa, longer
live aupo, longest live pswa !!!
PSA HQ its quite long that a request was placed
to be clear about the cadres of doordarshan in the
cadre review and in the association. still no sinhapa 07:05 AM 27th Jun
answer has been clearly given by the hq. is it that
big confusion leaders (?)
anybody with ddo's experience or adm experience
kindly let us know is it necessary to apply for
implementation of acp individually especially wow 07:47 AM 27th Jun
where nominated office bearer of PSA declinining
to apply for acp on behalf of whole prog staff?
Sinha what more clarification do you need. If you
had read the cadre review report it is much clear.
Ofcourse the president may again give you some shailesh 08:57 AM 27th Jun
special treatment and keep repeating what is
already there in the report.
Shailesh ji your answer to sinapat is right but ours
(prog) is proposal only thats not prog cadre
review report as in the case of engnn side they r
demanding the implementation of their cadre rev
report bcoz thats finalized after 18 meetings while wow 09:52 AM 27th Jun
there was not even single meeting held for prog
cadre review,moreover pswa & aupo are also
against prog cadre review so why to worry mr
sinapt?
Friends we have uploaded the model MACP
demand application to be submitted by each
member of the subordinate programme staff like
PEX , Trex / Production assistant to their
respective Heads of office either in All India Sanjay Kumar 11:22 AM 27th Jun
Radio or Doordarshan.. I would like to thank the
PSA unit of AIR, KOLKATA for having
developed this format. Sanjay kumar, President ,
PSA.
Wow you are back to your mischeif and vaibhav 11:59 AM 27th Jun
unnecessary cynicism. If i am right as per the
earler broadvision three meetings of the
programme cadre review committee took place.
Every association has a right to oppose whatever
theywant but ultimately some policy decisions
cannot be stopped by anyone.
Mr vaibhav 2-3 meetings means what?where are
the minutes are these uploaded,don't allege
without any reason? You for any unknown wow 02:49 PM 27th Jun
reasons must be getting first hand
information?don't allege mind it!
Comrades (i luv this word !), discipline of the
union/association activity says we should follow
the instructions from the leadership `cause they a
part of the strategy, so we all should do wht our
leadership expects. On the other hand, leadership
should also be farsighted and not be unnecessarily air_abad 04:42 PM 27th Jun
secretive abt their plans.success lies in
transparency and faith. so, let us do wht prez
suggests. and let also prez explain why item nos.
6 & 7 of the application format are needed for this
purpose.
Vaibhavji, aap ko sat sat naman ! ( TrExes jahan
bhidna nahi chahte vahan door se hi naman kar
lete hain). ek baat batao sirji, agar kisi gadhe ke
sar par lammmmba danda bandh kar uske far end
par gaajar latka dee jaye, aur vo gadha usko
khane ki aasha me daudta rahe, to kya us gadhe
ko optimistic gadha kahenge? so called cynicism air_abad 05:04 PM 27th Jun
of wow or members like us is not pointless.it is
apparent tht policy decisions are being stopped
successfully.so, sirji, pls tangdi kheenchna aur
blame karna band karen. wow aur hum jaise
`unoptimistic' logon ko atleast haal-e-dil to bayan
karne ki ijazat de deejiye !
Oye COMRADDE, tussi kitthe ho ji..... aao ji....
thoda dostana kar len ji.... dil ni manda hega ji.... air_abad 05:07 PM 27th Jun
!!!
Hi everyone was away for a while. I see the usual
allegations thrown around. We will get ACP
PROMOTION DPC REVIEW DPC one day,
maybe before retirement! But what about the
problems we face because of shortage of hands
and 'do whatever delhi says' attitude of chamchas anonymous 06:07 PM 27th Jun
and spine less higher ups which result in dte
getting every thing the way it used to get in the
olden days. We should start a non-cooperation
movement and stop doing statements, spl progs
and anything that will make the dte happy and get
a good name in the ministry. What do you say
friends?
hi anonymous, when the employer is not worried
abt professional work culture, why an employee
should be anxious about it? it is not expected
from u and if ur doing this it is like unbecoming
of government servant. the maximum we can do
is we be equipped with professional attitude and
execute our part of task professionally. if ur trex,
remember that ur not pex or at other higher post,
ur responsibility is limited wht is expected from
trex.now if u'll try to pretend like n higher officer,
u'll suffer.( but tht does not mean tht u should not
know wht a higher officer should've done in a
given situation). try to be a real trex (or pex or so air_abad 07:01 PM 27th Jun
on) and a virtual pex (or asd or so on) to live a
satisfied life. As far as chamchas are concerned,
develop an ATTI tht i'll become the biggest and
widest chamcha of the officer who will promote
me before the less talented colleague placed
ahead in seniority list (ofcourse lawfully, not as
that was done in past !). if he/she cant do this,
why should i waste my chamcha talent on
limitedly powered another govt. servant? ( BY
THE WAY, WHT HAPPEND TO OUR MOCK
SENIORITY LIST.... HAS ANYBODY SOME
NEWS ABOUT IT?)
air _bad ji haale dil ke liye gadha to na
banao,future will be ours,we are not pessimist but
non reactive attitude of our higher ups cost us
dearly as in case of concered DDGs have taken
positive action in case of macp ,how these sds and
wow 08:19 PM 27th Jun
ddgs expect regards from subordinates /engnn
higher ups take care of their subordinates thats
why they get same from them on prog side only
kutta ka baccha(chamcha) sways duum in front of
ddgs!sorry again becoming negative!
oye wow, i m air_bad only for comrade, for others
i m air_abad as earlier.okey.....?!?(lol). unrealistic
optimism is the characteristic of gadha, in the
prevailing situations if we r pessimist, its very
natural, being optimistic is inhumane.thts wht i
meant. well, thts my way of thinking. and dear, air_abad 09:00 PM 27th Jun
dont feel sorry for ur observation related to the
chamche ka baccha, oh sorry, bacche ka kutta, oh
sorry, the swaying duum..... it's very naturally
negative, humanly negative, unlike optimistic
gadha !!
hullooo friends, it's talk of the region in our state
tht a promotion list from pex to asd is coming out air_abad 09:10 PM 27th Jun
of the printer (!!) within a fortnight. has anyone
any info abt this? it will be really a pleasant
surprise for our cader.( more a surprise 'cause
how the hahahas will let it happen.... seems their
solosong `jor laga ke haisssa....tangdi khincho
haisssa.... jai ho, khadde me jai ho' is becoming
ineffective !!.... AAMEEN, JUMMA AAMEEN !
air_abad ji sometimes "a" skips but what do u
think if PSA by means of gate meeting or dharnas
have highlighted the one & only agenda of
wow 10:43 PM 27th Jun
stagnation of prog staff due to no DPC for last
decade it must have attracted some attention from
our 3 ministers of I & B or not!
According to a letter on airnet prasar bharti has
lost its charitable status under !961 sec of income
tax so it(pb) will file a income tax return ,what
does it mean?Bhahujan hitaye.....thing is over
now?doomsday oh again -ve -ve -ve-ve wow 11:01 PM 27th Jun
negative,every cloud has silver lining but this
year clouds are not there so no silver lining only
representation for Macp(monsoon aoo come
please)MACP!
mr president the present cadre review has not
included many doordarshan cadre. pl. dont
answer that they have their own assn. even there
are separate assns for helper tech and eas but still
all major assns include all cadre belonging to
engineering. the only question is give a clear
answer to the status of doordarshan professional
sinhapa 07:15 AM 28th Jun
cadres will this association will include them in
the cadre review or not. this association speaks
only from trex, pex to higher category. further
though engineering association have conducted so
many meeting in dd kendras psa hq has not
conducted not even one meeting. mr president pl
answer clearly.
Wow loosing an election is not the end of the
world. If you still try to do some constuctive work
vaibhav 09:46 AM 28th Jun
rather than pointless allegations you could still
win in a future date.
Wow loosing an election is not the end of the
world. If you still try to do some constuctive work
vaibhav 09:46 AM 28th Jun
rather than pointless allegations you could still
win in a future date.
RESPECTED PRESIDENT OF PSA, Mr.
SANJAYKUMAR, PLEase explain why item nos.
6 & 7 of the application format are needed for the air_abad 01:47 PM 28th Jun
purpose of MACP? Kolkata is very dangerous,
and i would like to get this information before
submitting the application in given format.
please add the words `and members of my region'
air_abad 01:50 PM 28th Jun
after the word `i' in my previous post.
`In compliance with the instructions received
from Prasar Bharati Secretariate vide A-
10/40/2007-PPC dated 11/06/09 the nominations
air_abad 05:38 PM 28th Jun
of following candidates from J&K Region and
NE Zone in various courses being conducted by
STI(T)....AIRNET'.... ?.... !.... ?
`In compliance with the instructions received
from Prasar Bharati Secretariate vide A-
10/40/2007-PPC dated 11/06/09 the nominations
of following candidates from J&K Region and air_abad 05:39 PM 28th Jun
NE Zone in various courses being conducted by
STI(T) as shown under are
withdrawn'.....AIRNET....?....!....?
vaibhav u have some kind of phobia thats why a
discussion or attracting members attention
wow 05:59 PM 28th Jun
towards some issue looks allegation to you ok its
ur problem we are enjoying our discussions!
Air_abad question no.6 & 7 on the initial place of
posting and present posting is required for cross
checking for any doubts between the personal file
and service book for transferred pexs and trexs as sanjay kumar 09:57 AM 29th Jun
the personal file is always maintained in the
station of initial posting. Sanjay kumar, president,
PSA.
Instant Musings For CEO from PSWA watch JAN
wow 01:09 PM 29th Jun
GAN MAN http://pswaindia.blogspot.com/
Wow ji the joke is the PSWA blogspot man has
understood what a lot of us had known for a very
long time,ie there are hardly more than 10 hits per
roshan 04:52 PM 29th Jun
day in their website.That is why they have
removed the hit couter. Letter pad associations do
not matter in the long run.
Shortage of hands - more work load - less quality
- programmes suffer - listener/viewer angry - less
listener/viewer - AIR/DD lose out - prog staff
blamed. Even if the first line starts with 'Bad
Technical Quality' also, other things will remain
the same. Inefficiency is not a virtue to be anonymous 09:23 AM 30th Jun
practised. If we are proud of our creativity we
will refuse additional work load and unreasonable
demands of the spineless chamchas.
Unfortunately the prog people are superseded by
'chamchagiri'. If the rumour is true and AIR/DD
are taken over by private parties we, prog staff,
will be chucked out first with this kind of
'goodwill'. Let us try to get MACP/CADRE
REVIEW at the earliest. Maybe redeployment
with pay protection is our destiny.
When MACP order issued is it necessary to give
one more individual representation, when our unit
is already submitted/demanding immediate
implimentation of MACP order. Then why all
these drama is going on. If the clear cut
ashok 10:07 AM 30th Jun
instruction is there, Office is not obaying MACP
order. Whether we are working in democratic set
up or not. If Office is not obaying Govt. order
then for what they are working. Still they need
clarification means "ye to bacwas hai"
If office doesnt obey why should obey the
hahaha 11:15 AM 30th Jun
office??????
SIR,respectfully i want toknow that i am
completing 30 year of service inAIR 0N10-8-
2009 and got two promotion first in sep1988
,second in oct 2000 whether i am entittled for rajangupta 11:45 AM 30th Jun
third upgradation and onfrom which date either
from10aug.2009or from10 aug2010on completion
of ten years in one grade thannks
Dear rajangupta, you are eligible for 3rd MACP
ie. 3rd upgradation from Oct. 2010. Hence your ashok 03:57 PM 30th Jun
pay will be revised from July 2010 ok
i'll correct the second half of the answer given by
ashok to rajangupta..`ur pay should b revised (not
`will be') from July (actually, oct.) 2010'.
everything depends upon the babuji, if he does
not wnt to give u, he will ask for clarification
from delhi... aur aap ka case latak gaya... ur sd
air_abad 05:38 PM 30th Jun
will also wont be able to do (neither would be
interested in doing) anything... okey ? samjhe....
PSA also expects... apni demand application aap
swayam karen... so, dear friends, symptoms are
resembling to `Necrosis'... accept the destiny and
be prepared. jai go...err...jai ho. long live psa !!
Wonderful! Who will take initiative is the
question. The deadline of 30th June is over.
Nothing happened at any end. All the ends are
ending in an end room. Sorry! Nasty Comment, bedre 08:20 PM 30th Jun
yeah! But, One thing is clear. At least the ADASA
babus are preparing the next increment list as per
old norms. Jai Ho!
Its irony of the system babus are more strong,its
great that we achieved Macp but how to wow 09:59 PM 30th Jun
implement it /lack of strong will/lack of intellegen
sds/ddgs just a suggestion to Ganesh ji for polls
!its hundred million question how to get it
implemented!babus just want to derail macp/its
their internal move/lets conqure them & get the
macp implemented!