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TOWN CENTRES AREA ACTION PLAN/ALLOCATIONS DPD QUESTIONNAIRE ROYAL TUNBRIDGE WELLS Question 8_RTW - Do you think park and ride would be well used if this was introduced in Royal Tunbridge Wells? Question 9_RTW - Where do you think a park and ride scheme(s) would be best located? Please specify or make any additional comments you may have Consultee Name Comment ID Q8: Q9: and/or Yes/No Comment Organisation Councillor Frank TCAAP/ALL_4 [THIS IS A RESPONSE TO Q8 WHICH HAS NO TEXT BOX] Williams This depends. For example it would be better used by default if TWBC demolished any car parks it owned, or allowed demolition of private car parks, or raised car parking charges, or failed to reduce them in a recession. I think there may be a democratic problem here. If there is a grand vision (eg. no cars in town centres, lots of cyclists, mass use of Park and Ride) that conflicts with what the puclic wants (eg. freedom of movement, personal choice), then it is unlikely to succeed without manipulation ie.making the facts fit the vision. Indeed there is a risk that the whole process may have to be covert because if carried out overtly the public might find it intolerable. In these two areas a democratic problem may arise. Mr Christopher Barclay TCAAP/ALL_5 No I really dont see how this would work the buss to the cinema is always empty! The Access Group TCAAP/ALL_12 Yes (Q8) Park and Ride Schemes work well in Canterbury and elsewhere, provided all vehicles are indpendently accessible and have a wide area for disabled people, current buses do not comply - see the types of vehicles used by Lothian Buses as an example of best practice with automatic ramps. Such services need to be reliable and at regular intervals no longer than fifteen minutes apart. (Q9) In a recent letter from Heath Williams to Greg Clark MP, Williams the South East Manager of Arriva admitted that only 15 out of 60 vehicles at T/Wells were accessible (see attached letter) and none met the independent access criteria that RADAR and Disability Alliance set as a basic standard. There are several serious issues, firstly the contractual obligations imposed by KCC are very lax, they do not for example require accessible vehicles to be replaced like for like. They do not require new franchise operators to use accessible vehicles, so that when a franchise is set out for tender as has happened recently accessible buses have been replaced by non accessible vehicles as a cheaper bid has been accepted. The other serious problem is that nationally when buses were deregulated the government (DfT) failed to include clauses to prevent buses being moved around the national fleet. Arriva, like many national operators will provide accessible buses for a price and recycle the old stock in areas where the Transport Authority are less pro active. Tunbridge Wells Depot is the last stop for old stock before being sold off. In 2017 this practice will end when all buses must be independently accessible. KCC's rolling out a new system of real time information, Lene Beynon has copies of our audited comments. Basically the screens are sited in the wrong place, pensioners cannot see the lettering because it is too small and glare from sunlight obliterates the information. Consultee Name Comment ID Q8: Q9: and/or Yes/No Comment Organisation None of the bus screens are audible so are technically illegal under the DDA and Equalities Act 2010, as they effectively exclude the visually impaired. Court action would bankrupt KCC. I have been in touch with the Traffic Commissioners for them to take action. But this illustrates the real headache for local government underfunded projects hitting primary legislation which now requires total compliance in service provision =[for disabled people. Technically officers and council members who approve such schemes are equally liable to fines and costs, which could with over 250000 visually impaired people in Kent finish them. The Kent Reference Panel are endeavouring to get KCC to become compliant. However they are equally frustrated by the cuts and reductions imposed on all departments by George Osbourne and the Coalition. Funding of Grants for Service Providers: Last year the Labour government introduced a new cost cutting system for dunding local bus services, which is based on the numbers of passengers carried. This system favours cities and towns and areas controlled by Labour. It gives a cleat picture of usage and value for money. However, it does not favour rural transport services in the same way that the old mileage allowance did. KCC Transport Team admitted to the Kent Reference Panel that without a rural support prekium many of our services will decline and in some cases disappear. Many of our existing services would also decline due to lack of core funding using this method. In the current LTP West Kent was seen as a car owning rural area served better by the car, than the bus. With the loss of the Kick Start Bid system for improving services cancelled by George Osborne in January. The Kick Start Bid for the Route 6/7 to give a half hourly service connecting the new Pembury Hospital directly with Maidstone Hospital has been lost. The grant change may well result in the total loss of this service after the October cuts are known. As indicated elsewhere, the return taxi fare from Rusthall to Maidstone Hospital is £110.00, to Ashford Hospital, now our Cardiac Centre from Tunbridge Wells, including waiting time of 1 hour is between £195/200. For a pensioner or disabled person it is more than a weekly State Pension or DLA Mobility Component at the Higher Level. If hospital transport is not independently accessible from 2011 it will spell the demise of the voluntary hospital car service. Access Groups will be taking action via RADAR to enforce compliance, which will merely reduce the funding available. The two centre hospital was a mistake and the PCT and Acute Trust will be held liable. Finally on this morbid point, I would not advise having a heart attack in T/Wells or to the west of the town, it takes around 110 minutes to get Ashford from call out to loading a casualty. For many elderly heart attack patients that is far too long and they will die. Food for thought. Mrs Jane Fenwick TCAAP/ALL_7 No It would only benefit people from outside the Borough at the expense of those people near the car parks. Provide very good and cheaper 'residents' bus transport from the key 'villages' Rustall, Langton Green, Pembury, Hawkenbury to discourage use of cars on short journeys. Reduce rate/beneifts for those people who do not have cars? Mrs Pam Bristow TCAAP/ALL_8 No I believe that a congestion charge would be more effective. Works wonders in inner London. Buses would be more reliable & better used. Mr Peter Blackwell TCAAP/ALL_10 Yes Along the Pembury Road, near to the Skinners Academy School. In Langton Green, where I live, near the Hare Public House. Consultee Name Comment ID Q8: Q9: and/or Yes/No Comment Organisation At the town boundary on the A26 from Crowborough. At the town boundary on the road from Frant and Wadhurst. Mr G L Plastow TCAAP/ALL_13 Yes [respondent made extra comment to Q8 where there is no provision for this, as follows: "But studies should be undertaken to check viability and experiences elsewhere"] Q9: Two sites were considered in the late 70's and these remain viable. 1. Land adjacent to Tescos at Pembury. Access exists off the roundabout on Pembury Rd. There is a synergy in being adjacent to a popular supermarket. It could also provide an inter-change to a bus link serving the new hopsital (Compaid might provide this). 2. Frant Rd, adjacent to the Rugby field. An application was made the the Borough Council to Wealden District but was withdrawn in the face of local objection. A third possibility is land in the vicinity of the Water Tower at Langton Green. It has to be recognised that none of these sites offer the prospect of a rapid transfer bus service at peak hours although Pembury Rd could be adapted at a cost. If a site could be foundnear the entrance to Scotney, Bayham Rd is more suitable for a faster link. It could also serve Frant Station and pick up traffic off the A21. Dr P Whitbourn TCAAP/ALL_37 Yes I think that some form of Park and Ride could work, if a scheme were to be devised that proved less hassle to the motorist that bringing a car into the town centre. A frequent and reliable bus service from the edge of town would be necessary, together with carefully worked out financial and parking policies. The diagram on page 4A shows one idea, based upon the adaptation of existing frequent service bus routes. Such a scheme would also serve as an enhanced Town Centre Bus Link, as well as affording a link between Royal Tunbridge Wells' two rival shopping centres in the historic Town Centre and at the North Farm Retail Parks. Certainly something needs to be done to alleviate existing congestion in both shopping centres, let alone any new shopping floorspace provision. Councillor Roy Bullock TCAAP/ALL_48 It is not so much where they should be located as which radial routes into the town centre are capable with investment and capable of providing bus priority from source to destination. Phillips Planning for TCAAP/ALL_59 Should a park and ride scheme be taken forward it is considered that the most obvious location for this would Cooper Estates be on the east side of RTW in the vicinity of the A21 / A264 junction. A site in this general area would be close to the Tesco food store and the major Pembury Hospital redevelopment site off Tonbridge Road. As the Council is aware, Pembury Road is one of the major traffic routes into the town centre. A park and ride in this location would have the potential to capture vehicle movements from the A21, Pembury Consultee Name Comment ID Q8: Q9: and/or Yes/No Comment Organisation and Paddock Wood beyond reducing the volume of traffic using this route in the morning and evening peak periods. It would also have the advantage of enabling residents living in the town to utilise the service to access Pembury Hospital. Attached to this representation is a plan which broadly shows the location that we consider most suitable for such a facility. This land is not owned or promoted by our client rather it is identified purely as an area which we consider would be of most benefit in terms of capturing the largest volume of users accessing Royal Tunbridge Wells from the east. Ms Susan Westlake TCAAP/ALL_51 No Have previous ones worked? Analyse data from their use to decide. Have any travel surveys been carried out to see where most people wanting to spend time shopping etc in the town come from? If not, survey all users of all the car parks on entry or exit. Mrs Marlene Lento TCAAP/ALL_50 No P&R relies on faster access into town via suttles compared to one's own vehicle. The layout of Tunbridge Wells and its main access roads do not support the introduction of dedicated bus lanes to facilitate improved access. Hence, P&R buses would creep along with the remaining traffic. P&R is often hailed as an alternative to adequate parking in town centres and a tempting excuse for developers and planners to favour 'unbalanced' developments, which, due to decreased parking space numbers, are commercially more profitable. Many towns have discontinued P&R services because there was too little uptake and because it needs to be subsidised. Would the developpers benefitting from the redevelopment of existing parking be asked to pay a their share of the subsidy? Mrs Mary Ollett TCAAP/ALL_32 No The park and ride would need to be adjacent to the main entry routes and will only be used if there are dedicated and frequent buses. You would need a large site or at least one you can readily expand into otherwise there will not be very much interest. Apart from Langton Green, Pembury and Sussex/Kent border where you might find a spare field you have not allocated for retail/residential use, there is very little hope at Southborough. Mr James Watson TCAAP/ALL_44 Yes Old site of proposed new Pembury hospital which is now vacant (near cinema + bowling alley) Tunbridge Wells Labour TCAAP/ALL_56 Yes The exit road as you come to the north farm round about which could be either entered from the road either Party by the hospital . I am basically mentioning the land which part would be used if the A21 is widened down from the garden centre ( Northcutts) Mr Neil Harris TCAAP/ALL_62 No a) Junction of A21 and A26 at Tunbridge/Tonbridge turn off, and/or b) Junction A21 and North Farm Notcutt Nurseries Ltd TCAAP/ALL_124 Yes Pembury. Natural England TCAAP/ALL_118 Natural England would expect the location for any park and ride site to be in areas where the landscape and nature conservation impacts are avoided, or fully mitigated. Mrs Shirley Wise TCAAP/ALL_120 Yes I believe the Tesco site near Woodsgate would be ideal as it is away from the Longfield Road chaos and would be used by people instead of having to take cars along Pembury Road, there would need to be a bus Consultee Name Comment ID Q8: Q9: and/or Yes/No Comment Organisation lane though in Pembury Road. Mrs Jenina Pendry TCAAP/ALL_66 Yes Park and ride schemes generally don't get used unless in peak times of year (summer for seaside towns, Christmas for shopping towns). If you had one, the Longfield/North Farm Industrial estate is the obvious place. miss k clifton TCAAP/ALL_71 Yes The site near Odeon cinema at North Farm, easily accessible from A21. Ms Delia Stabler TCAAP/ALL_83 Yes Only if people can get down the busy A21 to access the Park and Ride. Suggested sites off St Marks Road - fields to the back between Bunny Lane, also Longfield Road before it meets A21 roundabout Mr. Joseph Croker for TCAAP/ALL_90 North Farm/ Tunbridge Wells Rugby Club/ Rusthall/ Southboroogh Tunbridge Wells Football Club MJ Gleeson Group plc TCAAP/ALL_108 No If one were to be provided it needs to be located as close to the major road interchanges as possible. Mr David Cuthbert TCAAP/ALL_116 Yes Pembury, Major Yorks Road Miss Amy Huskisson TCAAP/ALL_130 No Mr Mark Tetley TCAAP/ALL_133 Yes Knights Park behind the Cinema complex. Mrs Katharina Mahler- TCAAP/ALL_243 Yes Park and Ride will only succeed if it is made comprehensive (all main roads into the Town Centre need to be Bech for Telephone covered) and above all it has to be free of charge or affordable (that is cheaper than taking a car into town) House Neighbours Association Park and Ride could be arranged from the West Station & Sainsbury’s; Union House Car Park is not suitable for Park & Ride, but this area has to be redeveloped in connection with the grot spot, the Union House. The car park on the Common should not be made available for Park & Ride. Royal Tunbridge Wells TCAAP/ALL_254 Yes [RTW Town Forum made comment next to box on Q8: "Yes - BUT, how will TWBC promote this to ensure?"] Town Forum Sainsburys (car park should be decked) to the south of town and Knights Park to the north. Mr G Allford TCAAP/ALL_150 Yes YES provided there is a clear routeway for buses. In this respect Woodgate Corner (as proposed in Boro' Transport Strategy (Fig 5.1) using Pembury Rd is doomed to fail. Buses would crawl along (1) from Knights Park via, Liptrapps L., Sandhurst Rd, Upper Grosvenor Rd Better. (2) Site 85 via Bayhall Rd (where prohibit parking to enable bus lanes). Councillor Michael TCAAP/ALL_146 No I think there could be park and ride for town centre workers in Pembury, North Farm and possible south Rusbridge Tunbridge Wells. I do not consider it viable in north Tunbridge Wells or to the west of the town. Nathaniel Lichfield and TCAAP/ALL_249 Yes Park and ride is a potential option for overcoming car parking issues within the Town Centre and supporting Partners for its regeneration, which merits further exploration. In order for it to be a success, however, it will be essential Targetfollow (Tunbridge that appropriate locations across the Town Centre are used as drop off points, to ensure pedestrian flows and Wells) movement is balanced across the centre; as well as ensuring the road infrastructure has capacity to support routes (i.e. if the buses themselves are not going to cause more congestion in the Town Centre). It will be important that The Pantiles and the southern end of the Town Centre is appropriately incorporated in Consultee Name Comment ID Q8: Q9: and/or Yes/No Comment Organisation to any such proposals (including drop of points), and Targetfollow requests to be consulted on any further plans in this regard as they emerge. Montagu Evans for TCAAP/ALL_252 The use of Park and Ride will depend upon the ease with which persons can currently park in the town centre Westfield and the attractiveness of any park and ride scheme as an alternative to this, in terms of its convenience for Shoppingtowns Ltd users. (See question 9). Cllr Barry Edwards TCAAP/ALL_138 No We have a mini park and ride system in operation already in Rusthall. Because of our excellent 281 bus service, residents from outside Rusthall drive to the village, park in one of our few parking spaces then, using their concessionary passes, take the bus to town. They not only benefit from free travel, but also free parking - no wonder we have a parking problem! Mrs S Kaner TCAAP/ALL_223 Yes It is inevitable given the size and draw of the town that solutions such as park and ride must be considered as a priority. Two areas that spring to mind immediately are at the Sainsburys site at west station and also at Longfiled Road. Given the lack of space at Sainsbury site the council may need to look at low rise multistorey developments. An opportunity was lost to provide a train shuttle service from here (west station) to the town railway station when sainsbury's was given permission to extend the store. Perhaps consideration should be given to a tram system between these two areas and ultimately up to St Johns. The redundant Kent and Sussex hospital site could be used in part to provide the terminus for this facility and using the latest sustainable fly drive technology a more sustainable tram system could be used. This system requires lower infrastructure and construction costs and is being adopted elsewhere in the country. Also the council should look at better connections between the longfiled industrial estate and high brooms station and consider if there could be any possible links between the two to enable park and ride users to access the high brooms station as a viable means of transport into the town. FW and JM Harwood TCAAP/ALL_140 Yes On the outer parts of T. Wells close to Pembury boundary Soroptimist International TCAAP/ALL_142 Yes Located to serve the main access roads into the town. of Tunbridge Wells & District Must have a guaranteed frequency of service. Hinton Cook Architects TCAAP/ALL_163 Yes Preferably on all principal routes into the town. Bath is a good model for this as it has several park and ride for Toc H sites all of which are heavily used Mrs Gabrielle Elliott TCAAP/ALL_173 No I do not think this would be appropriate in TW Mr Robin Christie TCAAP/ALL_178 No Therein lies the rub ! L H Roberts TCAAP/ALL_217 Yes (1) At Pembury, near Knights Place. (2) At Langton Green, near the water-tower. (3) Near the A. 267, on land near Bunny Lane. Mrs Jennifer Beaumont TCAAP/ALL_248 Yes If the road system could be improved (e.g. the small bridge under the railway line) somewhere on the Industrial Estate. People would then also have the opportunity to visit retail outlets in that area. mrs elizabeth strang TCAAP/ALL_265 Yes I think Park and Ride is always a good idea - perhaps somewhere on the Southboropugh road - to avoid the constant stream of traffic coming in that way ? - Mrs Elizabeth McLaren TCAAP/ALL_269 No Mr John Hemming TCAAP/ALL_270 Yes Near A21, complete permit parking across town to ensure the scheme is used widely. Consultee Name Comment ID Q8: Q9: and/or Yes/No Comment Organisation Royal Tunbridge Wells TCAAP/ALL_523 Yes Yes - BUT, how will TWBC promote this to ensure? Town Forum Sainsburys (car park should be decked) to the south of town and Knights Park to the north. Lady Elizabeth TCAAP/ALL_513 No There are no suitable sites which are sufficiently large to make a park and ride scheme viable. See our Akenhead for comments on the Transport Questionnaire. Tunbridge Wells District Committee Campaign to Protect Rural England J B Planning Associates TCAAP/ALL_401 With further growth and the reduction in the number of car parking spaces in the Town Centre there will be a Ltd for The Fairfield need to look at alternative travel options and Park and Ride is one option that will need to be explored. Partnership Miss Victoria Price TCAAP/ALL_340 No I have no knowledge as to how successful park and ride schemes are. North Farm Industrial estate but access to town centre not via Upper Grosvenor Road. Mr Rupert Preston Bell TCAAP/ALL_368 Yes Yes but only if the link is extremely swift and provided it serves both upper and lower ends of the town. Lucy Smalley TCAAP/ALL_386 Yes Don't know - by Tesco at Pembury. A good possible site. Mrs Helen Featherstone TCAAP/ALL_481 Yes Car park on the common. Frant road. knights park. Mr Stuart Page TCAAP/ALL_476 Yes Knights Park to pich up northern traffic and Sainsburies to south would utilise the heavy traffic areas. Uncertian about Langton Green end, just a good bus service via Rusthall would suffice. Why not a continuous loop service? Ms J Laws TCAAP/ALL_435 Yes Somewhere within short distance of A21 (eg; just outside Southborough or Knights Park) would suit those coming from that direction but be impractical for those approaching from South. Dr Stephen Keevil TCAAP/ALL_406 No There is no obvious location. Mr Robin Raban- TCAAP/ALL_344 If it is not free to use forget it Williams Miss Pi Townsend TCAAP/ALL_279 Yes Mr Colin Steadman TCAAP/ALL_288 No Mr Alastair Burns TCAAP/ALL_313 No Miss Christine Phillip TCAAP/ALL_314 Yes Ms Jane Jenkins TCAAP/ALL_316 No Mrs Sarah Butler TCAAP/ALL_354 Yes North Farm - although it wouldn't help me as it's on the wrong side of town, it would reduce the overall number of cars in town. We mostly need it at Christmas so perhaps seasonal park and ride scheme would be enough? Mr Peter Bell TCAAP/ALL_341 Yes Park and Ride could be on the industrial estate + Langton Green + along the Crowborough road + Southborough Mr Ken Gill TCAAP/ALL_403 No Mrs Erica Hughes for TCAAP/ALL_338 No The Flower Basket Miss Liz Carter TCAAP/ALL_339 Yes The Tesco's site on Pembury Road A location in Southborough Consultee Name Comment ID Q8: Q9: and/or Yes/No Comment Organisation Mrs Heidi Velvick TCAAP/ALL_352 No Mrs Alwen Coventry TCAAP/ALL_346 Yes Near the A21 in Pembury and on the Frant Rd. Dr Loretta Bellman TCAAP/ALL_347 Yes Not sure but not too far out - Canterbury's is a good example. Mrs Penny Lawne TCAAP/ALL_450 Yes Main arterial routes into the town Mr Ralph Hebditch TCAAP/ALL_350 No Mrs Caroline Perry TCAAP/ALL_382 No Where it is at the moment at Christmas ie the cinema complex Holmes TCAAP/ALL_351 Yes The Tesco site on the Pembury Road Mr Hugo Pound TCAAP/ALL_370 Yes Knights Park, behind the cinema ~ buses bringing people in, buses taking people out to the cinema, shops etc. Mrs Margaret Fraser TCAAP/ALL_405 Yes Langton Green and Pembury areas. Mrs Carol Honey TCAAP/ALL_407 No Mrs Carolyn Gray TCAAP/ALL_411 No I can't think of anywhere around the town, there are several different routes into the town, which would need several sites, otherwise people will have to drive across town to the park and ride, causing more traffic chaos rather than less. Miss Mary Fox TCAAP/ALL_413 Yes Ms Sara Neill TCAAP/ALL_440 No Nowhere. Mr Mike Miller TCAAP/ALL_417 Yes Pembury - Tesco area Mr Paul Daniel TCAAP/ALL_462 Nowhere Mrs Isobel Dormon TCAAP/ALL_427 No Mr Matt Lowe TCAAP/ALL_471 Yes Mr David Mann TCAAP/ALL_526 Yes Mr Paul Daniel TCAAP/ALL_462 No Mrs Jan Farrage TCAAP/ALL_463 Yes Just off the A21,near to North farm retail parks - especially with the (welcome) advent of M and S Home, John Lewis etc which will create extra interest in RTW and a reasonably priced Park and Ride scheme might encourage shoppers to venture further into the town centre. It follows that a suitable site should also be found on the Langton Green side of town. Mrs Corinna Woods TCAAP/AL_470 Yes Certainly at Knights Park, possibly somewhere on the A26 south of town. It would have to be a really efficient service with frequent buses. Mr Andrew Corner TCAAP/ALL_475 No Mr Patrick Glencross TCAAP/ALL_482 No In my view the experience of other Kent towns eg Canterbury, Maidstone, indicates that RTW is not of such a critical size or has such a critical volume of traffic coming from out of town that a P&R scheme would be well used. This contrasts to eg Brighton, Oxford. Other difficulties are that: - much traffic in the town is people travelling from one part of town to another - there are many arterial routes coming into town so impossible to capture even the majority of ingresses by 2 or 3 P&R sites. Consultee Name Comment ID Q8: Q9: and/or Yes/No Comment Organisation That said, the logical site for P&R would be coming off the A21 at the Pembury Road junction. Mrs L C Hind TCAAP/ALL_524 Yes If land can be found, near Tonbridge and Pembury with frequent shuttle buses to ease congestion on the Southborough route and the Pembury road, particularly before Christmas. Ms Heather Burbidge TCAAP/ALL_509 No No comment Mrs G A Prideaux TCAAP/ALL_530 No I don't think that T.Wells is big enough for park and ride. Ms Donna Carey TCAAP/ALL_532 Yes Should be cheaper than car parks or wont be used. Mr & Mrs J Turner TCAAP/ALL_533 Yes Southborough/TW Common Mr Hugh Jones TCAAP/ALL_539 No Not needed, less new shops more parking Mrs Maureen Moon TCAAP/ALL_540 No Pembury Road (Tescos) Mr Ian Bradford TCAAP/ALL_541 Yes (A) Only viable if made attractive parking areas, with easy access. (B) Industrial estate if made attractive, and roads reorganised to cope with traffic demands - access from A21 (C) Frant (D) Eridge (E) Southborough Mrs Anne Richards TCAAP/ALL_545 Yes On roads into the town from north, south, east, west J Weddell TCAAP/ALL_548 Yes I thought that there had been a park and ride scheme at one Christmas time. Did that work? Was it popular? Were the car parks in good locations? Ms Vera Woodgate TCAAP/ALL_549 Yes Ms Rita Ellard TCAAP/ALL_550 Yes It should be located on the original Industrial Estate - and the Industrial Estate should not have been used for retail as is happening now Ms Diana Lamb for TCAAP/ALL_663 Yes A park and ride area on the eastern side of RTW with a facility to allow dropping off and pick up at a Dunorlan Friends of Dunorlan Park entrance would be very helpful in taking the pressure off the Park car parks which are inadequate often Park on good weather at weekends and during school holidays. This would also be in line with Council policy to encourage non-car travel to the park. Hawkenbury Village TCAAP/ALL_659 Yes Frant Road, Langton Green, Knights Park, Pembury: PROPERLY MANAGED Association Royal Tunbridge Wells TCAAP/ALL_879 Yes Frant Road. Langton Green. Knights Park. Pembury. Park and ride sites need to be big enough to be properly Civic Society designed and managed, with reliable public transport. Indigo Planning Lld for TCAAP/ALL_874 Yes We consider that locations to the north and south of the town centre would be appropriate for park and ride Tunbridge Wells facilities as this could facilitate and encourage pedestrian movement along the extent of the spine of the town Regeneration Company centre from RVP to the Pantiles and vice versa. Scott Brownrigg for TCAAP/ALL_822 Yes Given the Council policy identified in the Core Strategy of redeveloping numerous town centre car parks and Dandara Ltd the urgent need to address congestion/traffic along routes into the town centre, there is potential for Park and Ride to be well utilised. However the success of such a scheme will be linked to the identification of appropriately located and sized Consultee Name Comment ID Q8: Q9: and/or Yes/No Comment Organisation P&R sites, sufficient investment in physical infrastructure, appropriate parking tariffs, improved bus frequency of service and improved travel time into the town centre. Bus priority measures at key junctions and along routes for P&R services into the town centre will play a key part in the success of the scheme.. As described in para 5.6 of the Borough Transport Strategy, it is recognised that Knights Park, (along with the Tesco, Pembury site) are suitable locations for Park and Ride, given that they are both sited close to the Strategic Road Network and other arterial routes serving the town centre, are located on the outskirts of the town and at locations already serviced by retail and other employment activity. Furthermore, there is potential to provide a high frequency public transport service between the town centre and Pembury Hospital through providing enhanced bus facilities at Knights Park. Please refer to our comments made to the recent consultation on the Borough Transport Strategy on Park and Ride. A P&R facility at Knights Park would accord with an existing Local Plan allocation and could be complementary to proposals to improve access to the A21. However, it is important that any P&R facility will be commercially viable and thus any strategy will need to carefully consider the location and capacity of facilities and that it is an integral part of a comprehensive approach to sustainable travel which may including a variety of measures to encourage sustainable travel into the town centre. Allocation of land at Knights Park for P&R as part of a sustainable urban extension will further enhance the economic case for additional/improved bus service provision to serve the North Farm/Longfield Road/ Knights Park corridor (see also our response to Q.23). As owners of Knights Park, Dandara are keen to work in partnership with Kent Highway Services, TWBC and the Highways Agency to deliver a complementary Park and Ride facility at Knights Park. Dandara are currently working on an overall masterplan for Knights Park in promotion of a proposed mixed-use sustainable urban extension to Royal Tunbridge Wells to help TWBC meet their identified development needs. There are various options available for provision of a P+R facility at Knights Park, in terms of its exact location, capacity and how it will be accessed. Dandara are keen to explore and progress those options with the Transport Strategy partners and service providers at the earliest opportunity. Mrs Julia Soyke TCAAP/ALL_829 No I dislike shopping, so always want fast, convenient, access to necessary shops – would not want the restriction of using buses, e.g. for bulky, heavy items – Hence my idea of transport in 50 years time would be lots of tiny Smart cars at stands in the towns and villages, to be used and parked very close together, not owned by private persons, you take the first car on the stand, leave it at central points in villages/towns when journey completed. Pick Up and Drive..! Mr John Edwards TCAAP/ALL_675 The answer to Question 8 depends upon where the parking facilities are located and how they connect to the town centre; also on the price. Towns operating park and ride generally have high parking charges in town, including on-street parking, so the bus fares can compete at an economic level. Raising charges to such levels in Tunbridge Wells (assuming fares were not subsidised) would be highly unpopular and would impinge unfairly on those for whom park and ride would not be a practicable option. On the East side, a service could operate along Pembury Road if a suitable site can be found near the Consultee Name Comment ID Q8: Q9: and/or Yes/No Comment Organisation junction with the A21, but this should not lead to construction of a bus lane, which would obviously be expensive and would also seriously damage one of the town’s great assets. On the West side, I do not think park and ride from Langton would appeal because of the long run in. If the park at the bottom of Major York’s Road could be utilised it could attract traffic from the A264 as well as the A26, but it seems doubtful whether it would attract enough users to make it viable. Mrs Paulette Pollock TCAAP/ALL_629 Yes Possibly at the end of the Pembury Rd near Tescoes. Dr Andrew Pollock TCAAP/ALL_622 Yes Accessible to A21 avoiding Southborough. ? Possibility of parking near High Brooms + railcars to main Station. Mrs Janet Mace TCAAP/ALL_641 Yes Ideally, just beyond the four main routes into town: Pembury Road, Eridge Road, from Southborough through St Johns and from Langton Green. However, when the question has been explored in the past the scheme has been abandoned because it was not possible to use all these routes. At Langton the proposed site, almost opposite the Hare public house, is in Green Belt land which should be preserved as such because of the considerable light pollution which would be caused by a large car park which, for safety reasons, would have to be lit at night. From Eridge, I believe the only possible site is on land falling within East Sussex. However, would it not be better to use at least those where a suitable parking area could be found (eg near the Odeon Cinema or Tesco’s at Pembury or at Mabledon on the far side of Southborough) which could go some way to alleviate the considerable traffic congestion on both those routes and in the town itself. Mr Alexander Helm TCAAP/ALL_630 No This proposal has been raised before. Suitable sites not easy to find. On A264 suggested site was W of Langton! While from S the site would lie in Wealden Authority. Mr & Mrs B D Mitchell TCAAP/ALL_633 Yes Beyond Langton village. Pembury - near Tesco or the new hospital (to provide a town-hospital bus service as well, reducing car traffic to hospital). Perhaps local schools (especially in St John's Road) could provide parking at weekends and in school holidays, especially at Christmas. Mr Raymond Hemsley TCAAP/ALL_647 Yes On the most congested routes into town. Mrs Lesley Gray TCAAP/ALL_664 I can't answer q8, as not convinced people would use it, although would like to think it would be used. Most people would prefer to queue in their own car rather than queue on a bus in congested roads. Buses then also cause more congestion, Perhaps a train park and ride (using High Brooms or the Old West station) making use of our centrally located train station? Mrs Janet Rutherford TCAAP/ALL_652 Yes North-north of Southborough, South - On the Eridge Road, West- Langton Green, East- off the Pembury Road Mr John Goodfellow TCAAP/ALL_894 Yes Yes; it could be but only if well planned and high congestion still remains in town centre. Suiitable sites are limited and not all are in optimum positions. [Question 8]: Consultee Name Comment ID Q8: Q9: and/or Yes/No Comment Organisation Better results could be obtained by Park & Rail if the railway is restored from Tunbridge Wells (Central) to Tunbridge Wells West and on to reconnect with the Uckfield Line at Eridge. (Sainsburys is not a bar – I can give details) Already 200 commuter cars park around Eridge Station – this could be doubled and likewise appropriately increased at Ashurst, Bells Yew Green, Wadhurst, Crowborough, Buxted and Uckfield.. [Question 9]: The following sites have been considered on and off for many years - . Frant Road (off St Marks Rd), Langton Green (near Water Tower), Knights Park. Pembury (Tesco’s – offer of 300). Mabledon. But they all present problems. This why Park & Rail (Q8 response) should be seriously considered and even sites further out, such as Belting. Very serious consideration should be given to providing commuter parking on an upper deck over part of the huge Sainsbury surface car park as has been done successfully at Lewes by a low-cost construction technique by a local (Uckfield) firm or by a versatile construction (used byTescos) which can be extended or removed as desired. Commuters coming into TW by car to work would be ale to park on the upper deck and then go on by the Shopper Hopper frequent bus service and not need to clog up the streets. In general, Park & Ride sites need to be big enough to be properly designed and managed, with reliable public transport etc. It is therefore debatable whether Park & Ride can be cost effective if cars using the parks would leave room in the town centre for others to fill! Mrs R J Avis TCAAP/ALL_598 [respondent answered 'Not 100% sure' to Question 8] Where the clock is because it is Central and they can pull in there. Baker TCAAP/ALL_609 No many residents are too attached tho their 4x4s Ms Clare Codd TCAAP/ALL_614 Yes Should be on every access road. I believe the two suggested sites are both on the Pembury side. Mrs J M S Austin TCAAP/ALL_617 No Mrs Thelma Huggett TCAAP/ALL_621 Yes Are near the West Station. Area near Tesco at Pembury or Knights Park. S M Cole TCAAP/ALL_624 I think limited park & ride at Xmas time would be very valuable K Grover TCAAP/ALL_625 Yes I was recently in Winchester. The P&R scheme is very good. £3 to park all day and a car load (up to 7) on the bus Mr Peter Rosling TCAAP/ALL_626 Yes Edge of town. Mrs Jenny Rosling TCAAP/ALL_627 Yes Mr Mark Rees TCAAP/ALL_631 Yes Langton Between Tonbridge + TW Consultee Name Comment ID Q8: Q9: and/or Yes/No Comment Organisation Pembury Eridge Road <--> Crowborough P C Davis TCAAP/ALL_632 Yes Once people had got used to the idea, I think they could be successful. They are in other towns e.g. Salisbury (1) At the bottom of Maj. York's Rd. for traffic coming in from the A264 & Eridge & Frant roads. (2) One at the end of Pembury Rd. for traffic from the A21. (3) Another, located to the north of the town to reduce traffic on London Rd. Mr & Mrs J Eldridge TCAAP/ALL_636 Yes Just inside the Borough boundary on the primary/strategic roads going into the town from Frant, Crowborough, Langton, Southborough & Pembury. Dr Michelle MacGrath TCAAP/ALL_637 Yes Ms Millicent Sillince TCAAP/ALL_638 No Mr Barry Sillince TCAAP/ALL_639 No Mr Alan Mayhew TCAAP/ALL_640 Yes The key locations should be north of Southborough on the A26 + at end of Pembury Road. Problem will be how quickly the facility will be taken up. If the town develops rapidly, it might still be years before a P+R service becomes financially viable. If further parking is created in the centre, it may never be viable. Workers Education TCAAP/ALL_642 No Not needed if public transport improved Association Tunbridge Wells Branch I F Rendall TCAAP/ALL_643 Yes Try it. North Farm if access is improved or Eridge Road area Mr & Mrs P R & C A TCAAP/ALL_644 No Baker Mr Christopher Powell TCAAP/ALL_645 No Sites would be required on all major roads into Tunbridge Wells. Typically north of Southborough to free up the road through Southborough, North Farm, Pembury Road, Frant Road, Eridge Road and Langton Road Mrs M Reynolds TCAAP/ALL_646 No S Hart TCAAP/ALL_649 Yes Between town centre & industrial estate Mrs Angela Wicks TCAAP/ALL_650 No Miss M Wicker TCAAP/ALL_651 Yes North-south and wesr of Tunbridge Wells to cater for car drivers from the main routes into the town centre Ms Jacqueline Sandford TCAAP/ALL_653 Yes as a resident of T. Wells who always walks/uses public transport it is difficult to comment. The provision of park & ride on the industrial estate might be a good idea particularly if run in conjunction with a bus to the cinema! Mr & Mrs Peter & Jenny TCAAP/ALL_658 Yes In the Pembury area near to the Tesco site and/or near to the cinema site. Russell Henrie Harrington-Vogt TCAAP/ALL_660 Yes Ideally about 2 miles North, South, East and West out of the town Ms Diana Lamb TCAAP/ALL_667 Yes At the primary road accesses to RTW, say A21 Pembury area and on the other side of town where the road from Lewes comes in (Ramslye?) Judith Ashton TCAAP/ALL_841 No The problem is where do you put it Associates for Berkeley Consultee Name Comment ID Q8: Q9: and/or Yes/No Comment Organisation Homes There is no where logical to the north, south or west of the town. To the east it might well be possible to provide something on Knights Park but this area is often congested itself so not really that attractive to local residents. Promoting the cost effectiveness of the railway network might well be a sensible option – especially at Christmas when the car parks are full From personal experience I know it’s quicker, cheaper and less stressful to park at Wadhurst and get the train into Tunbridge Wells at Christmas. Workers Education TCAAP/ALL_854 No I said “No” to question 8 because I think there are no park and ride proposed sites which have easy access Association Tunbridge from the major roads surrounding Tunbridge Wells. Wells Branch Miss Victoria Price TCAAP/ALL_477 No I have no knowledge as to how successful park and ride schemes are. North Farm Industrial estate but access to town centre not via Upper Grosvenor Road. Mr. Tim Pendry TCAAP/ALL_225 Yes More information on proposals are required. Mrs Ailie Owen and TCAAP/ALL_451 No It would be a waste of time and money and no-one would use it except maybe at Christmas! Family Mrs Judith Barrett TCAAP/ALL_268 No As there are basically 5 routes entering TW, 5 large car parks on the outskirts of the borough would be useful. Mr Gavin Coventry TCAAP/ALL_348 Acquiring such sites would be difficult as they would probably be designated green belt land in the main. Sites that would be of use to this scheme could be situated off the main roads entering TW. From the South: The Frant rd. (Before the rugby club) From the South West: The Eridge/Crowborough rd. (before the Broadwater Down rd) From the West: The E. Grinstead /Langton rd. (Before Langton) From the North: The London / Tonbridge rd (Mabledon area perhaps). From the East : The Pembury rd. (Between the A21 & The Sanddown area) Bus routes & or tram routes could link up to these. Certainly trams - Broadwater to Mabledon - should be given serious thought. (Or even overhead skyrail). Other possibilities would include the road through the industrial estate. However the road system needs to be improved to allow better traffic flow. A route from the A21 that goes to the North side of the Industrial estate - A fly-over or tunnel that could eliminate the congestion at the two rail bridges coming into High Brooms. Mr Chris Holmes TCAAP/ALL_438 No Rev Anthony Rutherford TCAAP/ALL_465 Yes Langton Green, by the Water Tower. Pembury Road next to the Seven Springs site, Eridge Road immediately beyond the town /county boundary, road to Tonbridge at the "Boot Fair" farm beyond Southborough - don't know its name Consultee Name Comment ID Q8: Q9: and/or Yes/No Comment Organisation Mr Matthew Wintersgill TCAAP/ALL_439 No Nowhere. Mr Christo Skelton TCAAP/ALL_412 Yes Frant Road. Langton Green. Knights Park. Pembury and Southborough. Park and ride sites need to be big enough to be properly designed and managed, with reliable public transport. Mrs Jennifer Hemming TCAAP/ALL_408 Yes mr richard craine TCAAP/ALL_414 No Mr Charles Macnaghten TCAAP/ALL_445 No mrs susan mniszko TCAAP/ALL_421 Yes from North Farm in to town centre. From the south of town, and from Southborough Mr Barrie Dunning TCAAP/ALL_422 Yes Only for those not resident in RTW MRS Elizabeth Dawes TCAAP/ALL_468 Yes Locations at the four points of the compass around the town would be ideal. With the shortest ride times possible. Mr Philip Greatrex TCAAP/ALL_428 No Mr Duncan Stone TCAAP/ALL_473 No mrs andrea wilson TCAAP/ALL_429 Yes miss tracey verney TCAAP/ALL_431 Yes Mr Dick Hoare TCAAP/ALL_447 Yes Pembury MRS Barbara Williams TCAAP/ALL_444 Yes Tesco site- Pembury this would also offer a better public transport connection between the new hospital and Tunbridge Wells Mrs Barbara Smith TCAAP/ALL_460 Yes The Industrial Estate where there is a great deal of land or the current site of the Land Registry which is soon to be vacated as the Council is aware. Mr Joshua Stroud TCAAP/ALL_461 Yes Pembury/North Farm area which would give a catchment from the A21 (north and south) and the A228. A second one south of Tunbridge Wells to attract motorists on the A26 and A267 would also be good. Mrs June Bridgeman TCAAP/ALL_464 Yes The answer to Q8 has the qualification "provided it is part of a total transport strategy, located on the main "inflow" sectors including from East Sussex and made attractive to users" As Rustahll has shown, the improved bus service there has made its streets a de facto unplanned park and ride for some people working in TW, much to the annoyance of Rusthallians Mrs Jane Stroud TCAAP/ALL_467 Yes From the Industrial Estate into TW centre. Chilston House/Pinfold TCAAP/ALL_469 Yes North Farm and Eridge Road or Frant Road for Mrs Laura Mason Mrs Valerie Storey TCAAP/ALL_485 [respondent answered 'Probably not' to question 8 Mr M P Trudel TCAAP/ALL_4001 No Beside the new hospital would be ideal.
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