Accreditation
How would you describe your current status? (Check all that apply)
How would you describe your current status? (Check all
that apply) 80.0%
Answer Response Response
70.0%
Options Percent Count
Instructor 73.7% 168 60.0%
Funder 0.9% 2
Employer 3.1% 7 50.0%
Program Manager 14.5% 33
TESL trainer/educator/researcher 12.3% 28 40.0%
Other 14.9% 34
30.0%
answered question 228
skipped question 8
20.0%
10.0%
0.0%
Other (please
Number
specify)
1 PhD student, Education
2 Intercultural Educator
3 Curriculum developer
4 consultant (after a lifetime of teaching, administration and teacher education)
5 previous instructor, currently supervising language assessments of EAL adults
6 IELTS Examiner
7 Curriculum Coordinator
8 TESL trainer (Standard one interim) looking for a volunteer position.
9 Ed. Dipl. TESL Student
10 Retired iinstructor
11 curriculum developer/coordinator
12 English Language Assessor
13 Administrator
14 grad student (master's level)
15 ATESL employee
16 Recently rec'd certificate and not yet employed.
17 student
18 I am a teacher (b.Ed) but am studying for my Masters in TESl
19 I'm currently involved in the TESOL Certificate program. Once i finish the course, I will apply for TESL Canada, professional starndard one.
20 working at ILVARC (Calgary)
21 Student, taking the CERTSL program at the University of Saskatchewan
22 ESL consultant
23 ESL instructor with foreign credentials (not accredited in Alberta yet)
24 TESL Master's Student applicant for Fall 2010 at the U of A
25 ESL Assessor
26 tutor
27 ESL instructor
28 testing manager
29 Volunteer Teacher
30 university researcher
31 Unemployed following maternity leave.
32 outreach settlement worker
33 previous student of accredited program from Red Deer College
34 ESL Assessor
Accreditation
Have you been granted ATESL accreditation? Have you been granted ATE
Answer Response Response 60.0%
Options Percent Count
Yes 54.4% 124 50.0%
No 35.1% 80
In process 4.4% 10 40.0%
Other 6.1% 14
Please explain your answer: 69 30.0%
answered question 228
skipped question 8
20.0%
10.0%
0.0%
Yes
Please
explain
Number
your
answer:
1 I have an MEd (TESL) from the University of Calgary. Plus the teaching experience, etc. I feel that is sufficient acc
2 the process is slow, thinking of starting soon.
3 I am new to Canada and have foreign credentials and haven't applied yet.
4 you will not accredit me because I went to school in BC
5 I was accredited in 1995.
6 haven't gotten around to applying though I qualify. Not all institutions require this.
7 I have a Masters Degree in TESOL but did not apply
8 I think so, but it was a long time ago.
9 I am not sure. I have a permanent Alberta Teaching Certificate.
10 Was accredited after receiving MEd from U of A and required teaching hours.
11 Have TESOL but can't get ATESOL because I don't have a degree in linguistics/English.
12 I did the process two years ago and didn't get in because of the 250 of ESL training portion. I have since correct
13 I just completed the ACE TESOL program at Mt Royal and applied for ATESL membership and received my memb
14 I haven't applied yet.
15 Have both ATESL and TESL Canada accreditation.
16 My qualifications were not recognized by ATESL.
17 The paper work seems extensive and it costs a lot of money. I am in the "grey area" with overseas qualifications
18 I've never applied because I have a bachelor's degree in education specializing in teaching ESL in primary and sec
19 I have not applied for accreditation.
20 I asked to have my credentials looked at and was told to complete 6 more courses related to ESL training. I have
21 I've never needed to apply. I'm a faculty member at a university. I have a B.A., M.Ed., and I'm finishing a PhD
22 I have been a member of ATESL for two years as I wanted to become knowledgable of the industry back home a
23 TESL Canada
24 Completed CERTESL certification
25 Have not applied yet
26 I have a MA degree in Bulgarian Philology (philology is a comprehensive study in linguistics and literature) from th
27 TESL Canada recognizes my qualifications (from a non-Alberta school) while ATESL does not.
28 I have applied for ATESL accreditation. My application is being reviewed
29 did not apply yet
30 I have been accredited since the 1980's, at which time my B.ED, (majoring in English) an adult ESL methods cour
31 I do not qualify for ATESL accreditation, so have never applied. I began the process of becoming qualified for acc
32 I have been a member for 2 years passed on education and experience teaching.
33 I need to provide additional ESL training
34 I have a foreign Bachelor's degree with specialization in English. To upgrade my credentials in Alberta, I took a 3
35 I have a B.A. from the University of Manitoba, and ACE TESOL certification from Mount Royal.
36 I have never applied, but have the credentials
37 I have not applied for it. I have a Bachelor of Arts degree and a Bachelor of Education degree. I have been teach
38 The TESL program that I was trained by (ACE TESOL program at Mount Royal University) was not recognized by
39 I haven't ever needed accreditation, so I haven't applied
40 I have never applied for ATESL accreditation.
41 I haven't applied, but I would like to get it when I've jumped through all the hoops.
42 I have only heard of one course offering this accreditation...i could be wrong. ANYONE i have talked to has NOT
43 I haven't applied
44 I qualified many years ago when I began teaching with the YWCA of Calgary.
45 I was granted ATESL Accreditation under Option B several years ago ( this category was eliminated for new appli
46 ESL minor in my education degree. I completed a 5 week practicum in a junior high classroom for 5 weeks.
47 I have never applied because most of my experience has been teaching EFL.
48 I only have 100 hours from an institution not recognized by ATESL
49 I'm qualified to teach ESL classes.
50 I have never applied for it
51 have not applied for ATESL accreditation
52 I am planning to apply as soon as I have documents proving my teaching experience
53 I took 5 courses in the area of TESL from the U of A; 4 of them are pre-requisites to the Masters Program, and on
54 I have extenssive expereince in an ESL classroom, the educational qualifications that allow me to teach in the pos
55 Training in Canada not recognised by accreditation committee
56 grandfathered in with educationdegree and years of teaching experience
57 i want to pursue certification but not quite sure where to begin, beyond gaining experience
58 I have not applied.
59 didn't submit the papers about the hrs spent in the classroom
60 My job requirements were to have a BA and experience in the classroom, fo that's all I have.
61 It seems The Canadian Institute of English, from whom I took my TOESL training in Nova Scotia in 96, although s
62 I am not sure why I have been denied, but I think ATESL and TESL Canada should review its standards for Canad
63 I have a diploma and a BA degree in teaching ESL from a university in a foreign country. ATESL accreditation wa
64 Will be applying this spring
65 I haven't applied because I do not have a university degree. I do have a college education and TESL specific trai
66 I am starting my diploma course in September and will apply for accreditation in 2011.
67 I didn't complete my ESL training at either university.
68 Accredited by TESL Canada at permanent professional certification
69 graduated from TESOL class. Applying to TESL Canada. Didn't know the ATESL accreditation was another accredi
Have you been granted ATESL accreditation?
No In process Other
ence, etc. I feel that is sufficient accreditation.
aining portion. I have since corrected that and will reapply for March since my mark didn't come through until Dec. 20th. I would like more
membership and received my membership card Jan. '10. (I don't know if membership and accreditation are the same thing.)
y area" with overseas qualifications and I have never had an official practicum. It's hard to know where I stand in the scheme of things.
g in teaching ESL in primary and secondary schools and a license to teach in Alberta schools as well as in another province. I have never bee
rses related to ESL training. I have a B.ED. and a diploma in Elementary English that was supported by linguistics training (which was not a
A., M.Ed., and I'm finishing a PhD
dgable of the industry back home and take place in any online activities provided at the ATESL website. In December of 2009 I applied for a
in linguistics and literature) from the University of Plovdiv, Bulgaria and extensive experience teaching Bulgarian Language to international
TESL does not.
English) an adult ESL methods course taught at U of C, and my hours of experience were my "credentials".
rocess of becoming qualified for accreditation a couple of years ago, but balancing work, family and school proved to be too challenging. I
my credentials in Alberta, I took a 33 credit course work at senior level at the University of Alberta, and finished it in 2005. I obtained my Alb
m Mount Royal.
ducation degree. I have been teaching ESL since 2001 and I still don't qualify.
University) was not recognized by ATESL.
ANYONE i have talked to has NOT been satisfied with the experience. They have had more learning experiences in a real classroom.
egory was eliminated for new applicants more than ten years ago, I think) I have a Bachelor's Degree in English, an Alberta Teaching Certi
high classroom for 5 weeks.
tes to the Masters Program, and one of them is a Masters level course (ED PY 510) I also took a TESOL certificate in South Korea back in 20
ns that allow me to teach in the post-secondary institution I owrk in. My degress are BFA and B.Ed and M.Ed other than TESL qualifications s
g experience
at's all I have.
ng in Nova Scotia in 96, although still operating in Canada, is not recognized as a valid ESL course provider.
ould review its standards for Canadian born and Canadian educated instructors and managers.
n country. ATESL accreditation wasn't granted because the committee considered the number of course hours insufficient; however, in my
ge education and TESL specific training and 3.5 years experience in TESL, but I don't think that I meet the qualifications for accreditation st
L accreditation was another accrediatation. Was directed to apply to TESL Canada
ec. 20th. I would like more clarity on what qualifies in the 250 hours on the page because people from other countries often have high qua
in the scheme of things.
r province. I have never been required to have ATESL or TESL accreditation for any jobs that I have applied for or worked in.
cs training (which was not accepted as valid) and other ESL courses that were taken for options. Looking into the cost and time to become
mber of 2009 I applied for accreditation in preparation for my return to Canada and have yet to receive a letter of confirmation or denial.
n Language to international students at the Foreighn Language Department of the University of Sofia. I took my MEd TESL degree here and
ed to be too challenging. I am forced to chose between work and school, and unfortunately, work (ie paying the bills) wins out.
it in 2005. I obtained my Alberta Interim Professional Certificate, payed my fee to initiate my ATESL accreditation application as "option D: I
s in a real classroom.
h, an Alberta Teaching Certificate, some formal course work for the TESL Diploma, and I've been teaching ESL for about 25 years.
te in South Korea back in 2004; the four courses in the program were taught by qualified North American Master's Level teachers, and the p
er than TESL qualifications such M.of applied Linguistics which prevent me from applying because I do not fall under any of the categories,
nsufficient; however, in my opinion, the committee didn't evaluate my credentials appropriately.
fications for accreditation standards for either ATESL or TESL Canada.
untries often have high qualifications but their English is not recognized as Canadian English.
or worked in.
he cost and time to become accredited made no sense. The money I would invest to receive the credentials ATESL requires would not lead
of confirmation or denial.
MEd TESL degree here and completed the required teaching hours before I applied for my ATESL accreditation. I got my ATESL certificate 1
e bills) wins out.
n application as "option D: Individual consideration." I sent the documents required by ATESL. However, my "Canadian" ESL teaching hours
or about 25 years.
r's Level teachers, and the program itself was monitored by the University of Maryland in the US.
nder any of the categories, and subsequently will not be considered for accreditation. This very problem is delaying my applying for accredit
ESL requires would not lead to any more compensation at my work. I have been a successful ESL teacher for 10 years and am currently em
I got my ATESL certificate 10 years ago and since then I have been teaching English to adult ESL learners in Calgary. I am also an accredit
anadian" ESL teaching hours to adults, (more than 250 hours) were not recognized by the organization. I appealed to ATESL decision, and I
ing my applying for accreditaton
0 years and am currently employed to my liking.
gary. I am also an accredited Alberta Learning teacher, but I have never used my Alberta teaching certificate for my work here.
ed to ATESL decision, and I never got a reply back. With no opportunities to further develop my professional career in Edmonton, where I r
or my work here.
reer in Edmonton, where I reside, I decided to teach English out of Canada, and continue my professional development. Which I did. In 2
opment. Which I did. In 2008 I took another upgrading course in a foreign University. A Diploma program, with specialization in English as
h specialization in English as a Foreign Language, I successfully approved ESOL examinations (University of Cambridge.)
bridge.)
Accreditation
Would you be in favour of replacing
Would you be in favour of replacing current ATESL s
current ATESL standards with TESL
with TESL Canada standards?
Answer Response Response
Options Percent Count 60.0%
Yes 49.1% 112 50.0%
No 23.7% 54 40.0%
Not sure 27.2% 62
Please explain your answer: 108 30.0%
answered question 228 20.0%
skipped question 8
10.0%
0.0%
Yes No
Please
Number explain your
answer:
1 I believe in something less (more flexible, more context-specific) than a "national" standard.
2 I would like to see the ATESL standards work in conjunction WITH TESL Canada standards. At times, one seems
3 I am in favour of according ATESL accreditation to individuals who have or are eligible for TESL Canada Standard
4 I feel this would be a concession - I feel any professional certification should include related post-secondary acad
5 Are the ATESL and TESL Canada standards recognized as being equal across Canada? Is one perceived "better" t
6 I feel unqualified to respond as I don't understand how the PLAR process really works re TESL Canada (case by c
7 TESL Canada did recognize my RSA CELTA (which was completed in Europe) whereas ATESL refused to.
8 I think teaching standards for TESOL should be consistent across the country and should be recognized across the
9 I think it is confusing both for teachers and administrators to have to consider two sets of standards. I have a nu
10 If we cannot do a credible job of ensuring that those we accredit are in fact fit to teach in our classrooms and do
11 The "levels" of accreditation are unclear. What impact does that have on the person's employment options, and p
12 I am against instructors having ESL diplomas ET Al from short term programmes. One must have a good underst
13 I think that having ATESL standards allows people with foreign credentials and experience time to catch up with t
14 I think 250 hours in specialized TESL training is more desirable than the 100 hours required by TESL Canada. I li
15 I think it's good to have the same standards across the country, and would save hours of volunteer time now put
16 I have 20 years teaching experience but cannot get ATESL cert. You are cutting out a great number of excellent
17 I don't know the difference between TESL CANADA Standards. I believe I would be recognized by TESL CANADA
18 Standardization has so many intrinsic advantages.
19 Standardisation is always a good thing. It benefits institutions and applicants.
20 It would be good to have it standardized throughout the country.
21 I have always thought we should have one accreditation system across Canada. I think the TESL Canada standard
22 This might result in a downgrading of professional standards, i.e., instructors will see TC Standard 1 as the defau
23 This may be a good idea, but I wonder what the other provinces do for ESL instructor accreditation.
24 There is so much confusion around this, and there needs to be one consistent standard across Canada instead of
25 I don't know what this would actually look like.
26 ATESL accepts the U of A program without the supervised practicum hours, I believe.
27 TESL Canada recognizes the ACE teacher-training program. Not all teachers need to have the highest level of acc
28 They seem to duplicate and/or overlap.
29 ATESL standards seem to be more specific and stringent, but TESL Canada's still represent an acceptable minimu
30 I have completed the ACE TESOL training course, which was much more reasonable to attain, so this would give
31 I would like to see standards applicable to our own context here in Alberta
32 I think we should allow accreditation for students who have taken other programs other than those the universitie
33 I have always thought that the TESL Canada standards were exclusive whereas the ATESL ones were inclusive.
34 TESL Canada does not recognize all TESL Programs. They only recognize the programs that submit their courses
35 I do believe that ATESOL accreditation requirements are in dire need of revision as the current standards do not a
36 TESL has much higher standards.
37 ATESL accreditation is high quality and if we lose it we'll never get it back
38 TESL Canada's is unclear
39 I think there is no need for separate standards for Alberta. In fact, I believe the more consistent the standards ar
40 ATESL standards are fine as they are and the ATESL process for recognizing foreign qualifications more straightfo
41 Because of the demands of my current position, not long time ago, I had to check how my ATESL certificate relat
42 See above.
43 The number of teaching hours in the TESL Canada requirements seems very high. Since many teachers can get o
44 Experience together with theory teaching ESL in a foreign country should be taken into consideration, and evalua
45 More categories thus more flexibility
46 There should be some kind of consistency.TESL Canada would offer level 1, 2, or 3 (w/specific training and teach
47 I feel that the ATESL standards are higher than the TESL standards, and I would like to see the high standards m
48 I think that standardizing standards nationally evens the playing field for all applicants - especially as the number
49 Our accreditation would then be recognized across Canada and we wouldn't have to reapply if we moved to anoth
50 The length of course I would have to take to qualify for TESL Canada 1 or 2 accreditation is MUCH more managea
51 D only perhaps. Modifications to A could include an undergraduate teaching degree from any province, or a licen
52 Alberta requires 250 hrs. post-graduate work, but TESL requires 1000 hours teaching ESL.
53 In Alberta, there really is no accredited provider of the training acceptable by TESL Canada's most basic level. If w
54 I enjoy having a membership to an association where my skills have not quite transferred over. I have been an E
55 They are more flexible/reasonable.
56 It would be a step towards a uniform standard across Canada.
57 i dont really know the differences. It would be good to have the same standards across Canada
58 It is important to have National Professional Certification Standards to keep consistancy in the teaching and learn
59 I think that there should be an option if a person has not done a supervised practicum requirement: a positive rev
60 I am not in favour of replacing ATESL standards with TESL Canada standards. They are different and replacing th
61 ATESL is a stronger organization than TESL Canada and we should maintain our autonomy.
62 There is a significant difference in the number instructional hours between the two. I'm not sure which is better. A
63 Consistency!
64 I know of many people who have received excellent post-graduate educations from overseas institutions from hig
65 Yes, as long as I didn't have to go through the process again.
66 I have both and think that there is no need for duplication. Also, I let my membership in ATESL lapse for a few m
67 I'm not familiar with ATESL standards.
68 We use Canadian Benchmarks to place students and that seems to be a national standard. Consistency across pr
69 I don't really understand the differences between the two> I don't know the benefits of either council.
70 There are limited spaces, places and options to take ATESL in Calgary. I need to work however I would love to g
71 I have a Bachelor's degree, experience teaching ESL in a Foreign country, qualify for TESL Canada and feel that t
72 I feel that our ATESL standards are adequate.
73 I believe the TESL Canada standards have the same rigour as ATESL but I am concerned about what will happen
74 Please see comments for #4.
75 ATESL is more comprehensive in assessing skills required to teach adult ESL classes.
76 It is my understanding that TESL Canada standards would make it more difficult to become accredited in Alberta.
77 I like that ATESL has its own standards.
78 I could then qualify for accreditation and others like me.
79 ATESL should partner with foreign ESL teaching associations to allow foreign professionals to get the local accred
80 It is more recognizable across the country
81 should be consistency
82 The ATESL standards excludes many excellent instructors.
83 It streamlines the process of applying.
84 more standardized
85 I have basically done a lot of "self-mentoring" in my process of becoming both an EFL and ESL instructor; I took a
86 More inclusive and the accreditation board has allowed for review of applications such as mine
87 I would say that someone with TESL Canada accreditation should not be disqualified from work in Alberta, but the
88 TESL Canada standards did not include an adequate "grandfathering period" for experienced teachers who did no
89 The requirements for ATESL are adequate. The requirement for having as much as 2000 contact hours with stud
90 I find it ridiculous that the provincial organization would not accept me when the national one would.
91 i think i could still get certification under the TESL standards; for the group as a whole, it might be better to have
92 Yes, because it would be better to have the same standards more uniform across the country. There are also mor
93 n/a
94 I believe they are similar if not the same, but am not sure.
95 My accreditation was turned down from ATESL because my TESL certificate from the U of S 1999 didn't qualify.
96 As mentioned above, I feel the need for both to be reviewed.
97 It would make more sense to make the standards applicable across the county.
98 I think that by lowering our standards to those of TESL Canada's, we will be diminishing ourselves as a profession
99 Although the TESL Canada standards are admirable, I would not qualify due to the increase in hours of teaching n
100 I'm not qualified to respond
101 I feel that Canada should be consistent in standards for ESL teachers.
102 There is no allowance for experience to equate with an education degree - which does NOT always provide the be
103 I feel that because there are too many ESL teachers in Canada, both home grown and immigrants, TESL standard
104 There should be one professional standard in the country rather than provincial standards.
105 I think it may simplify the ATESL process as this is a duplication of certificates. It seems that the provincial TESL
106 Why have different standards? Just confusing.
107 Adopting TESL Canada standards would widen the door in terms of recruitement. The main idea behind having an
108 I'm not sure which are the TESL Canada recognized courses and what they contain.
placing current ATESL standards
nada standards?
Not sure
rds. At times, one seems "easier" to obtain than the other.
or TESL Canada Standard 2 or higher
ated post-secondary academic coursework. Although it's a start 4 week CELTA does not seem adequate for professional certification.
s one perceived "better" than the other? Can an ATESL accredited instructor easily find work in other provinces based on that accreditation?
e TESL Canada (case by case ergo too subjective)
TESL refused to.
d be recognized across the country
of standards. I have a number of staff who've asked me what accreditation they should pursue. It's confusing even for me: I'm ATESL ac
in our classrooms and do an excellent job, then it behooves us to switch to a system that does.
mployment options, and possibly on the quality of instruction offered? If TESL Canada supports it, perhaps we should as well. I think I supp
must have a good understanding of the theory of lanquage acquisition. There is an attitude by some that " If you speak the language, then y
ce time to catch up with the TESL Canada requirements. It seems that even people from England have difficulty being recognized and this s
ired by TESL Canada. I like the positive performance review and the 1000 hours classroom experience in TESL Canada requirements thoug
of volunteer time now put in by ATESL members.
great number of excellent and qualified teachers. The TESOL certificate and course recognize that with some extra training, other profession
ognized by TESL CANADA Standards but my Ontario TESL qualifications the ATESL Board didn't recognize because they didn't know the hou
the TESL Canada standards are adequate.
C Standard 1 as the default for entry into the profession, instead of ATESL accreditation (which is closer to Standard 2). The level of TESL tra
across Canada instead of so many regional variations. My understanding is that in order to be a member of TESL Canada you need to be a
ve the highest level of accreditation. Why are we excluding those individuals who have a degree but not in TESL and want to pursue the ESL
ent an acceptable minimum for credentials. The latter's are explicitly restricted to teachers of adults, though, and I do not think this restricti
attain, so this would give me recognition for ATESL accreditation as well.
than those the universities offer.
SL ones were inclusive.
that submit their courses and lots of money in order to be recognized.
current standards do not account for the diverse education and experience of teachers working overseas. While having numerous tiers of sta
onsistent the standards are across Canada, the more likely they are to become accepted. It also seems that this would simplify things for ev
alifications more straightforward.
my ATESL certificate relates to the levels of ( 1 to 4) of TESL Canada certification and I was unplesantly surprised to find out that in order to
e many teachers can get only part-time work, it can take a long time to meet those requirements. And it may be difficult for people who hav
consideration, and evaluated on a case by case basis.
pecific training and teaching hours). This is important because TESL Canada recognizes experience and training. Also, the amount of trainin
see the high standards maintained.
especially as the numbers for non-nationally trained applicants increases. This has been especially true for the standardizing of provincial st
pply if we moved to another province.
on is MUCH more manageable than what I would have to take for ATESL accreditation. I feel the TESL Canada accrediation provides employ
m any province, or a licensed foreign university, plus the rest...
ada's most basic level. If we adopted the TESL Canada standard, how would we really know the quality of out-of-province minimal hour trai
ed over. I have been an ESL trainer for 8 years and have taken a TESOL course years ago. I also hold a degree in Linguistics. However, be
in the teaching and learning English as an aditional language across Canada. It is also important to have professional certification recogniz
equirement: a positive review by an administrator regarding teaching practice.
different and replacing them would penalize some teachers. TESL Canada certification doesn't recognize experience with children and doesn
not sure which is better. A thousand hours is alot -it would take many years of part time teaching to accumulate these; as many ESL teache
rseas institutions from highly-respected professors in TESL and applied linguistics, but who wouldn't qualify according to ATESL rules. It wou
n ATESL lapse for a few months and now I have seem to have no accreditation according to my ATESL card. TESL Canada sent me a certific
rd. Consistency across provincial barriers would make life easier.
f either council.
however I would love to get involved. There are NO options!!
SL Canada and feel that the experience I have is equivalent to the ATESL Standard, as explained. However, I chose not to do the U of Calga
d about what will happen to the organization if it drops its accreditation role. Will it become obsolete?
ome accredited in Alberta. ATESL standards are adequate.
als to get the local accreditation. And the present standards should allow qualified professionals with foreign credentials to be accredited wit
nd ESL instructor; I took a CELTA certificate and a TESOL cerfificate before I taught adult-level students at a university in South Korea for th
m work in Alberta, but the ATESL standards seem to be doing a good job as well.
nced teachers who did not have the appropriate credentials.
0 contact hours with students is beyond what is necessary
al one would.
it might be better to have a national standard.
ountry. There are also more options it seems to be able to become accredited.
of S 1999 didn't qualify.
ourselves as a profession. This is not the way to maintain or improve respect for our members by employers, stakeholders or funders. I be
ease in hours of teaching needed. The TESL Canada standards favour those instructors who have taught abroad.
NOT always provide the best qualities as a good teacher of ESL
mmigrants, TESL standards have been created to keep the number of accredited instructors as low as possible.
s that the provincial TESL organizations are mor likely to accept TESL Canada than ATESL - although I have not had that experience
main idea behind having an organization like ATESL is to gather like-minded people in the field so that we can collaborate and dialogue abou
essional certification.
based on that accreditation? If the TESL standard is more recognized or portable, then ATESL should consider going the TESL Canada route
even for me: I'm ATESL accredidated but have never gone through the process for TESL Canada accredition (although I have the paperwo
hould as well. I think I support the variety of accreditation options.
u speak the language, then you can teach it."
being recognized and this seems rather strange. I'm also familiar with some TESL programs like those at PAYAP University in Thailand and
Canada requirements though.
ra training, other professionals have a lot to offer the field.
se they didn't know the hours. I was told that Mount Royal University teaching Adults Qualification counted but the ATESL Board indicated
ard 2). The level of TESL training acquired by Alberta adult ESL instructors may decline substantially as a result. This will ultimately benefit
L Canada you need to be a member of a provincial body. I know membership does not automatically mean accreditation, but if the industry
and want to pursue the ESL field? Why should everyone be lumped into the same category.....paying a high cost, a minimum of $10,000. th
d I do not think this restriction is reasonable or realistic.
having numerous tiers of standards would greatly improve ATESL current system, I doubt that it would reduce the numbers of applications
would simplify things for everyone.
d to find out that in order to get this cerificate a candidate should go again through a long and exhausting accreditation process, no matter
e difficult for people who have taught overseas to prove. I had considerably more hours of experience than I needed, but I was unable to d
. Also, the amount of training and teaching hours for Level 1, 2 are reasonable. It would be difficult for foreign instructors to come to Canad
standardizing of provincial standards for regulatory bodies.
accrediation provides employers with the standards and information they need to make good hiring decisions, so the lack of an ATESL accred
f-province minimal hour training? Also, the provincial funder of ESL in this province has put considerably more money into developing a cali
in Linguistics. However, because I have such a varied employment and educational history, I do not fall in the category of TESL standards
ssional certification recognized in all provinces.
ence with children and doesn't accept your qualifications unless you complete an internship. When I was doing my Masters in TESL, I was try
e these; as many ESL teachers work part time hours only. But maybe something more than 250 is required.
rding to ATESL rules. It would seem that some sort of built-in assessment process is required.
SL Canada sent me a certificate.
ose not to do the U of Calgary program because the in-classroom teaching was not included throughout the program.
dentials to be accredited without further scrutiny, provided they can demonstrate objective evidence of relevant prior work done in the field
versity in South Korea for three and a half years. This is not recognized as valid experience by TESL Canada; I would not like to disregarded
takeholders or funders. I believe that ATESL's current accreditation process lets employers, stakeholders and funders know that anyone with
had that experience
laborate and dialogue about practices, new findings, etc. I say 'The more the merrier'. And, as for the concern that the quality of membersh
oing the TESL Canada route.
lthough I have the paperwork sitting in a folder on my desk!). But, I'm doing teaching observations and acting as a "mentor" for teachers p
P University in Thailand and extension schools from BATH university in China that are excellent. I don't see what these couldn't be recognize
the ATESL Board indicated that it had to be in only Teaching in English As A Second Language. I am confused about the standards.
This will ultimately benefit neither programs nor learners. In any case, instructors may apply for either or both, and employers make the fin
editation, but if the industry wants to see more standardized qualifications across the country then it is necessary to bring things into line.
t, a minimum of $10,000. that will not necessarily be adequately reflected in the ESL teachers' wages. The funders want to keep the costs
he numbers of applications sent to ATESL every year. In addition to changing the standards, I would consider a long term solution through
editation process, no matter that the applicant has the required course work, credentials and practical experience.My point is that as a part o
eded, but I was unable to demonstrate that.
nstructors to come to Canada and do another 2 years of masters. For many, this is extremely costly. On the contrary, it is less expensive to
the lack of an ATESL accreditation isn't going to leave a large void in the profession.
money into developing a caliber of program/curriculum than can be maintained by someone with only a brief exposure to linguistics.
category of TESL standards. I am not able to use the PLAR tool because the people I have worked for are Oxford trainers and therefore ca
my Masters in TESL, I was trying to find a job near the end of my program but no one would consider me until I had either TESL Canada or A
prior work done in the field. Bottom line, standards are man-made set of ruling ideas that can be improved, I mean become more open and
would not like to disregarded as a serious, experienced teacher just because my life experiences and educational background have been acq
nders know that anyone with an ATESL accreditation is a highly qualified. We do not want to lose this.
hat the quality of membership might be compromised, quality is something that always revelas itself in the end.
as a "mentor" for teachers pursuing accreditation and enrolled in other programs like CERTESOL.
these couldn't be recognized. I did my student practice in New Westminister under a teacher form Serbia. She had an accent but she was a
bout the standards.
and employers make the final decision.
y to bring things into line.
ers want to keep the costs down. Throughout Canada, recognizing and supporting adequate wages/benefits that reflect the educational qua
long term solution through the addition of an educational information center on teaching overseas on the ATESL website.This section of the
e.My point is that as a part of TESL Canada, ATESL should take some actions in that direction and give the opportunity to its current or new
rary, it is less expensive to complete a 250 hour certificate program. Furthermore, with 1000 teaching hours and performance review, TESL
osure to linguistics.
rd trainers and therefore cannot be used as my references or for observation and performance reviews. I am quite frustrated because I kn
had either TESL Canada or ATESL Accreditation. I was only able to find a job when I got ATESL Accreditation (I don't live in Edmonton or Ca
ean become more open and inclusive, for the better at any time.
background have been acquired by different means than those who have never left Canada!!!!!!
had an accent but she was a great English Teacher. If she can do well on an English Test and has practical experience and knowledge - why
t reflect the educational qualifications of the ESL teachers has been a thirty-year struggle. ATESL standards are too high. Not all ESL progra
website.This section of the website would be dedicated to professional development of teachers abroad in preparation for there return to C
rtunity to its current or newly accredited members to obtain their certification equivalent that is valid authomatically on a federal level. It pro
d performance review, TESL Canada is selecting professional and experienced instructors.
uite frustrated because I know have to spend another $3000 plus my time, which is quite limited to have a TESL Canada certification. I feel
don't live in Edmonton or Calgary). Even though I now have TESL Canada Certification- I would have had to wait at least eight more month
rience and knowledge - why not certify her?
too high. Not all ESL programs in Alberta or Canada for that matter require such a academic standard.
aration for there return to Canada or Alberta. I say this because there is a plethora of great teachers overseas, but who have not chosen to
ally on a federal level. It probably means to equalize the standards, review the qualifications of the current ATESL members and grand that
Canada certification. I feel somewhat validated that I can at least be a member of ATESL to add to my portfolio making me much more at
t at least eight more months to apply to these jobs.
but who have not chosen to develop themselves in accordance with the qualifications required by ATESL. Personally, years ago when I bega
SL members and grand that accreditation to these of them who meet the requirements. In addition to it, as a serious professional organizati
o making me much more attractive to the ESL society.
ally, years ago when I began my career as an EFL teacher there was an immense lack of guidance in how to go about professional develop
rious professional organization, ATESL should take the responsibility to improve the quality of ESL programs probabaly with some provincial
about professional development in regard to educati
babaly with some provincial policy
Accreditation
Do you see benefits to ATESL standards over TESL
Do you see benefits to ATESL standar
Canada standards?
Canada standards?
Answer Response Response
Options Percent Count 40.0%
Yes 30.7% 70 35.0%
No 34.6% 79 30.0%
Not sure 32.5% 74 25.0%
Not applicable 2.2% 5 20.0%
Please explain your answer: 85 15.0%
answered question 228 10.0%
skipped question 8 5.0%
0.0%
Yes No
Please
explain
Number
your
answer:
1 As above.
2 TESL seems more foreign degree friendly
3 By excluding people whose qualifications fall below our standard, we communicate more clearly to employers wha
4 as above
5 I haven't really put them "side by side" and compared them at the same time.
6 ATESL standards seem higher. 100 hours of ESL instructions seems a bit low.
7 only that they are made in the awareness of training opportunities and standards currently in practice in Alberta.
8 Insisting on post grad studies perhaps creates an unnecessary boundary, without necessarily improving quality of
9 ATESL was more approachable when I returned from overseas. I think I qualify for TESL Canada Certification too
10 Refer to #3 comments
11 TESL Canada standards would mean the same across the country, and presumably make hiring abroad easier.
12 You cut out too many qualified and experienced applicants.
13 I find the system confusing and it shows that the Alberta Teachers were trying to be an exclusive club.
14 Higher minimum standard
15 they require more education however, the flexibility of the three levels from TESL Canada addresses that.
16 Represents a higher level of TESL expertise than TESL Canada Standard 1, even though it requires no practicum.
17 I don't know what the differences in membeship are. It seems that TESL Canada requires more education combi
18 See above -- I feel that the U of A is a highly academic program and should be recognized.
19 The ATESL standard 'A' is basically level 2 TESL. Employers who want ATESL can just asked for TESL level 2.
20 Please see note under question 3. The two sets of standards are not congruent, so it makes no sense to drop ATE
21 There are many excellent ESL teachers who do not have the resources to pay for the extra education. I believe e
22 These standards would apply to the specific needs of our own province, and we would have the power to amend
23 I think they're easier to monitor--with TESL Canada there is movement between levels of accreditation that requir
24 TESL Canada will certify you if you have a 100 hour course and a 20 hour practicum, which is far less than ATESL
25 The ATESL standard are not diverse as the TESL Canada standards particularly when it comes to EFL teachers wo
26 The requirement of teching experience is only 250 hrs.
27 TESL Canada standards are recognized nationwide, so why be limited with a provincial standard.
28 clear
29 I don't believe the ESL teaching situation in Alberta is different enough to justify different standards.
30 As the current situation is, the holders of ATESL certificate have almost no benefits even over the non-accerdited
31 ATESL standards are more rigorous, but create difficulties in getting accreditation for anyone trained outside of A
32 See above.
33 Fewer hours of teaching are required. However, maybe there is a need to raise 250 hours to 500 hours which we
34 Being able to teach in all provinces and territories.
35 Option A does set a higher standard. However, having only two categories is somewhat limiting, and as mentione
36 Yes, it recognizes training at a masters level. This means that the candidate can perform at a higher level, e.g., c
37 My impression is that the TESL standards are to give prospective teahcers a chance to be certified and often grad
38 Again, I feel the TESL Canada accrediation provides employers with the standards and information they need to
39 I believe each needs to encourage each applicant to have an actual undergrad education degree to begin with, w
40 not hierarchical
41 ATESL requires 250 hrs. post-graduate work. TESL requires only 100 hours of theory and methodology.
42 The ATESL options for accreditation ensure a professional level of preparation. Language learners here can be co
43 There are an assortment of jobs that are not always advertised on TESL Canada's website, plus there is valuable
44 ATESL standards are too rigid. The TESL diploma/masters requirement is ridiculous, especially for people who hav
45 It is important to have opportunities to professional development for Canadian ESl educators, and have national c
46 See comment above. I think the TESL requirements are easier to administer.
47 - ATESL Accreditation shows a commitment to professional ESL teaching in Alberta.- ATESL Accreditation recogniz
48 They seem esier to meet.
49 It's easier to get but it wouldn't be recognised outside of Alberta.
50 Their only rationale is that they are volunteering and that they don't have time to evaluate every applicant; they d
51 For my program, I completed a professional project rather than a practicum. While I have taught the required nu
52 I'm not familiar with ATESL standards.
53 It could provide more stringent standards regarding ESL applicants for the accreditation.
54 They may reflect the current situation in Alberta, and they cover our students' needs in specific situations and ins
55 For the organization, recently I heard the President of TESL Canada describe that organization as representing all
56 The ATESL standards (Option D) still include those instructors who may not have formal ESL course work, but wh
57 It has more practical components to its teacher training program.
58 They are more reasonable in relation to the job.
59 I like that there is one standard to be met. However, TESL Canada allows for more people to meet accreditation
60 They are highly restrictive and don't reflect the current educational background of many ESL teachers.
61 They should all be integrated to highlight the fact that when it comes to accreditation or any other ESL teaching m
62 It is a bit easier to get out there and teach with ATESL standards....meaning that one can use what he or she kno
63 I really see them as the same and instructors using both accreditation systems for professional purposes (advanc
64 They require more classroom based theoretical knowledge than levels one and two--experience alone, without th
65 Asanove, the ATESL expectations are more reasonable.
66 Fewer teaching hours to qualify. It's sometimes difficult to get jobs, especially fulltime ones.
67 higher expectations
68 a national standard may help with employment
69 I don't happen to think a degree necessarily makes you a better instructor.
70 ATESL standards accommodate LINC positions better
71 n/a
72 I am not really clear on either but believe both are similar.
73 It is not clear why all the three TESL levels are necessary. The difference between II and III is especially blurred.
74 I think the TESL Canada standards take too long to achieve. Many of us ESL istructors teach only part- time. It w
75 I am not fully familiar yet with all of the requirements for both organizations.
76 It is already difficult for highly qualified ESL instructors to find full time permanent positions that have suitable co
77 The ATESL standards encourage education specific to ESL learners (250 hours compared to 100 hours), and enco
78 The benefits - recognizing the education taken at the university level could be accommodated in having a few mo
79 ATESL standards better represent our region.
80 same as above
81 Save people like me lots of frustration. I do not insist on working in my field, but simply being accredited and kno
82 More experience in adult ESL classroomsPerformance reviewsCountrywide recognition
83 Some instructors may have a long history of working within one province and feel that their credentials would not
84 * See #3 explanation.
85 They are more rigourous but perhaps they should also include programs from other universities in Canada.
u see benefits to ATESL standards over TESL
Canada standards?
No Not sure Not applicable
cate more clearly to employers what the standard shoudl be.
rds currently in practice in Alberta.
out necessarily improving quality of instruction.
y for TESL Canada Certification too but I haven't been able to find enough work in my field since returning so can't maintain another membe
ably make hiring abroad easier.
to be an exclusive club.
ESL Canada addresses that.
en though it requires no practicum. Both schemes provide interim accreditation/certification. ATESL's process is less costly.
da requires more education combined with experience for accrediation. Following the stricter guidelines of TESL Canada would not increse
e recognized.
an just asked for TESL level 2.
t, so it makes no sense to drop ATESL's entirely.
for the extra education. I believe experience, professional development, and positive feedback from a superior is reason enough to honor d
e would have the power to amend / change them without being beholden to an outside body.
en levels of accreditation that require a lot more maintenance.
ticum, which is far less than ATESL.
when it comes to EFL teachers working abroad.
provincial standard.
fy different standards.
efits even over the non-accerdited ATESL members. I already expalined why. Many ESL institutions and government funded programs hire
ion for anyone trained outside of Alberta, never mind Canada. It's a tough call.
e 250 hours to 500 hours which were required previously, I believe.
omewhat limiting, and as mentioned, causes a strain on volunteer ATESL assessors who must decide if applicant fits into A or D
an perform at a higher level, e.g., curriculum development, teacher trainer.
hance to be certified and often graduates then teach EFL elsewhere. Experience teaching EFL ( for example in Korea ), is a different experien
ards and information they need to make good hiring decisions, so the lack of an ATESL accreditation isn't going to leave a large void in the
education degree to begin with, with second language acquisition as a focus (and if not, then approved TESL training in addition to the Edu
theory and methodology.
Language learners here can be confident that instructors have considerable theoretical and practical knowledge of pedagogy in general and
da's website, plus there is valuable information on the website. It's a nice way to stay connected.
ulous, especially for people who have been teaching for years or have other relevant education.
ESl educators, and have national credentials.
erta.- ATESL Accreditation recognizes teachers who work with children.- ATESL Accreditation is easier to attain for people living in rural sett
to evaluate every applicant; they don't seem to be justifying that ATESL accreditation is a better system to that of TESL Canada. If the acc
While I have taught the required number of hours for TESL Canada certification, I did not complete a practicum and therefore am unsure if
needs in specific situations and institutions.
hat organization as representing all of the Provinces that don't have their own accreditation process. TESL Canada has been a very ineffectiv
ve formal ESL course work, but who have valuable experience and background in teaching ESL. Formal course work is of course very impor
more people to meet accreditation standards due to its tiered system.
d of many ESL teachers.
ditation or any other ESL teaching matters Canada is a true federation. Although provincial standards may apply depending on the local prog
hat one can use what he or she knows and make a living, rather than being forced to jump through hoops before being able to do so!
for professional purposes (advancement) such as annual salary review purposes
two--experience alone, without the theory to back it up, can at times lead one to just having more well established ruts, so having a more
fulltime ones.
een II and III is especially blurred. It is necessary to continue considering applicants on an individual basis. And the main criteria, in my opi
tructors teach only part- time. It would take years to fulfill the teachung hours they require to become accredited.
nent positions that have suitable compensation and benefits. If we reduce our standards, the market will become saturated with less qualifie
compared to 100 hours), and encourages the degree program. This allows for continuity of instructors granted ATESL accreditation.
accommodated in having a few more options for TESL.
ut simply being accredited and knowing that this door is still open for me makes me very happy.
ognition
eel that their credentials would not be recognized at the TESL Canada level because the local situations would not be understood.
other universities in Canada.
n't maintain another membership right now. ATESL is on the ground with the teachers... TESL Canada is network... their role is different
Canada would not increse salary for teachers.
s reason enough to honor devoted teachers in this field with ATESL certification.
ment funded programs hire non-accredited ATESL or TESL teachers and don't require that accreditation at all. There should be a federal stan
fits into A or D
orea ), is a different experience . An ESL teacher in Alberta usually has a multi-cultural class. Also I do not feel that 20 hours of practicum is
to leave a large void in the profession. In fact, the TESL Canada standards require a practicum and the ATESL standards do not. In additio
aining in addition to the Education degree).ATESL standards allows Alberta trained teachers to move quickly to membership, and that is a p
of pedagogy in general and how to learn and teach all aspects of English and/or other languages.
or people living in rural settings in Alberta, in which an internship is not necessarily an option.- It allows some teachers to be practicum sup
of TESL Canada. If the accreditation committe is composed of U of A professors, it might be seen as an underhanded way for U of A progra
and therefore am unsure if I would qualify. Plus, I would have to go through that whole process again of which, at the time I applied for AT
da has been a very ineffective advocate for ESL instructors and learners and I think it is important that ATESL maintain this role in Alberta
work is of course very important in understanding linguistics, language acquisition and other areas of ESL teaching, but I do feel quite strong
depending on the local programs to allow the instructors to become familiar with them.
e being able to do so!
hed ruts, so having a more complete theoretical basis is a good thing.
the main criteria, in my opinion, should be what the person can do, but not what papers s/he has and what all this training means. Option
e saturated with less qualified ESL instructors, which will make it even harder for recent university graduates to find good jobs within the fiel
ATESL accreditation.
ot be understood.
k... their role is different
ere should be a federal standard and a policy that requires the possession of ATESL certificate for all who want to practice as ESL teachers
hat 20 hours of practicum is enough.
standards do not. In addition, the ATESL standards exclude a large number of talented, qualified teachers, whereas the TESL Canada stand
membership, and that is a positive.Wanting perhaps to move to another province to teach ESL is a challenge and something needs to chang
eachers to be practicum supervisors for up and coming ESL teachers, because it is recognized by many programs as equivalent to TESL Cana
anded way for U of A programs to be part of some accreditation gate-keeping.
, at the time I applied for ATESL accreditation, most employers in Canada were asking for that (here in Alberta). That being said, for job pr
aintain this role in Alberta
ng, but I do feel quite strongly that many of our members are currently making a valuable contribution to ESL teaching, even though they do
this training means. Option D should stay.
ind good jobs within the field of ESL. Several major providers in Edmonton (e.g. NAIT, Norquest and MacEwan) now have quotas on how m
to practice as ESL teachers even for these who work with the public school system in addition to their Alberta Teaching Certificate. ATESL s
eas the TESL Canada standards include a place for those people in their Levels 1 and 2 while still recognizing people with higher-level educa
d something needs to change (not sure what). For example, to teach in another province, I must go through that province's TESL training b
s as equivalent to TESL Canada. Under TESL Canada standards, this allows the teachers in training to qualify for TESL Canada when they ar
That being said, for job prospects, it would be beneficial to have TESL Canada accreditation for all professionals-makes it easier to transiti
aching, even though they do not have a TESL diploma or a Master's Degree in TESL.
now have quotas on how many funded students they accept. These institutions will not be hiring a lot of new ESL instructors in the near fut
eaching Certificate. ATESL should really become a serious professional organisation similar to Alberta Teaching Association, to APEGGA and
eople with higher-level education in Level 3. I believe the only area where ATESL offers something that TESL Canada does not is in the area
at province's TESL training before landing a position in that province. It matters none that I have a B.Ed. with a major in 2nd language teac
TESL Canada when they are finished.
s-makes it easier to transition throughout the country etc. If I had to do it over again, I would have tried to fulfill TESL Canada requiremen
SL instructors in the near future.
ssociation, to APEGGA and to all other professional organizations that not only pose the standards of an occupation, but that also benefit th
nada does not is in the area of teaching children. I think TESL Canada only counts teaching ESL to adults, so those who teach children may
major in 2nd language teaching and acquisition plus years of experience. So the provincial differences can be unnecessary blocks for qualif
ill TESL Canada requirements (for the U of S CERTESL, students can choose to complete an on-campus practicum, an off-campus practicum
tion, but that also benefit their accredited members. The status of the ESL practitioner hasn't been changed at all since I entered this field 1
ose who teach children may be left without an accreditation option. I'm not familiar with the standards required by those who employ teac
unnecessary blocks for qualified people coming from other provinces.
m, an off-campus practicum-of which I was unable to arrange due to a lack of TESL Canada accredited professionals at the institution I was
ll since I entered this field 10 yers ago. The question is very sensitive, but decisions and actions are really vital if we want to tie research an
d by those who employ teachers of ESL to children, so I don't know how those individuals and employers would be affected, if at all.
onals at the institution I was employed -, or a professional project).
f we want to tie research and theory to the
be affected, if at all.
Accreditation
Which of the following applies to you?
60.0%
Response Response
Answer Options
Percent Count
I qualify for I qualify for both TESL Canada and ATESL 53.5% 122 50.0%
I qualify only for TESL Canada accreditation 12.7% 29
I qualify only for ATESL accreditation 11.8% 27
I do not qualify for accreditation in ATESL or TESL 9.2% 21 40.0%
Don't know 12.7% 29
answered question 228
skipped question 8 30.0%
20.0%
10.0%
0.0%
Which of the following applies to you?
I qualify for both TESL Canada and
ATESL accreditation
I qualify only for TESL Canada
accreditation
I qualify only for ATESL
accreditation
I do not qualify for accreditation in
ATESL or TESL Canada
Don't know
Accreditation
Check your preference for one of the following options:
Answer Response Response
Options Percent Count
Discontinue with ATESL standards and refer potential applications to TESL 39.5% 90
Continue with ATESL standards for Option A and remove Option D. Refer 41.7% 95
Other 18.9% 43
answered question 228
skipped question 8
Number Other (please specify):
1 I would prefer the more "portable" standard.
2 The second sounds like a reasonable option IF Alberta employers will emply TESL qualified instructors. AND/OR A
3 Keep as is; no change.
4 I think we first need to be clear what the role of ATESL and TESL Canada are - If ATESL is a chapter of TESL Can
5 TESL already has a world-wide recognized standard, an office to process things and paid staff. Why make your s
6 Develop a system that allows qualified people to understand what is required. I know Master's Levels from foreig
7 The minimum requirement should be a bachelor's degree. A week long course should ot be considered sufficient
8 Continue with ATESL standards for Option A, refer most applicants who do not fit Option A to TESL Canada, and r
9 Re-think our own in province certification. Strike up a committee of TESL educators / practitioners to work on thi
10 I think ATESL should maintain their current standards for Option A and remove option D. Refer applicants who do
11 You need to keep Option D because of the higher volume of applicants from foreign countries who can enourmou
12 I think option 2 has merit, but I wouldn't want foreign trained instructors rejected simply because of that. I think
13 Why not have both option A and option D? They do not seem to be mutually exclusive.
14 Maintain the options as they are. Require option d applicants to have their qualifications reviewed by IQAS and if
15 A federal and strict standard for teaching ESL in Canada and oversease with different levels of the professional c
16 Leave accreditation requirements the same as they are.
17 ATESL and TESL Canada should be similar, if not exactly the same.
18 I would like to see the standards stay high for foreign applicants, but have them judged fairly on merit, and on an
19 Option D is a door to keep open because rich experience and well-honed aptitude as an educator, or researcher,
20 again. I am unclear. But I think that there should be a similarity across the board, making it easier for teachers to
21 Provide another category by recognizing TESOL training programs from accredited institutions such as Mount Roy
22 ATESL and TESL certification should be the same in the future.
23 I'm not familiar with ATESL standards.
24 Sorry, I can't be of much help to you in this regard.
25 I see no reason not to continue ATESL accreditation as it has been done. The situations in other locales may be d
26 Continue with both Option A and D. Possibly re-examine these two categories and try to develop standards in be
27 Continue with ATESL standards but adequately support evaluaters with necessary training and funding.
28 Option D should not removed from ATESL and if so how would you deal with foreign applicants whom have no Ca
29 Balance both standards to allow the candidates to join both organizations and save them a signifcant amount of v
30 I am not sure
31 Whatever happens, there should be a grandfather clause that doesn't leave current ATESL qualified people left ou
32 TESL Canada standards - but with a 10 year grandfathering period or "voucher" for experienced teachers.
33 Since we are working with distance dilivery here, I don't think there would be a class here at asll and probably no
34 CONTINUE WITH ATESL with both options A &D
35 Perhaps a merging of provincial/federal standards might provide better consistency throughout the country.
36 Review practices for both processes
37 Leave it as is.
38 I think there should be an option for ESL teachers who do not have a university degree, but who do have TESL sp
39 Abstention
40 I feel that ATESL standards devalue any education that teachers have taken after their degree. Using TESL stand
41 By all means, implement the TESL standards to replace the present ATESL standards BUT ALLOW FOR EXPERIEN
42 I would keep ATESL as is.
43 Keep option D to allow for individual certification, but have some guidelines developed around this so it is not too
Check your preference for one of the following options:
45.0%
40.0%
Discontinue with ATESL
standards and refer potential
35.0% applications to TESL Canada
30.0%
Continue with ATESL standards
25.0% for Option A and remove
Option D. Refer applicants who
20.0% do not fit Option A to TESL
Canada
15.0% Other
10.0%
5.0%
0.0%
ified instructors. AND/OR ATESL could use IQAS services to assess international credentials.
SL is a chapter of TESL Canada then we should follow their standards. If ATESL has a more hands on role I think things are fine as they are.
aid staff. Why make your system more onerus with less staff?
Master's Levels from foreign countries to maybe get some of the pediology, grammar and vocabulary necessary. Set up which courses are
ot be considered sufficient enough training to teach ESL. NNS who teach English in their first country often cannot speak English well enou
on A to TESL Canada, and retain a smaller, more manageable Option D for applicants whose qualifications are relevant, but excluded from T
practitioners to work on this. Offer licensure to teach ESL through ATESL.
D. Refer applicants who do not fit Option A to TESL Canada. This is a short term solution as I would like to see ATESL totally autonomous in
ountries who can enourmously contribute to ESL teaching due to their deeper knowledge in the area of how to teach ESL.
ply because of that. I think they should have their qualifications assessed by IQAS and criteria set for what steps the committee would take
ns reviewed by IQAS and if their foreign degrees are deemed equivalent to those in Canada, certification should be granted. The IQAS staff
levels of the professional certificate reflecting in a grid system for potential remuneration based on the level of that certificate. Clear distinc
d fairly on merit, and on an individual basis. Since this is creating a problem at this time, due to the accreditation committee working as vol
n educator, or researcher, in English, another language, or even another subject (such as athletics, where the learner gains skill in DOING s
king it easier for teachers to transfer within canada
itutions such as Mount Royal University. If this program is accepted by TESL Canada, should it also be good enough for ATESL?
ns in other locales may be different than they are in Alberta, and I feel that ATESL specifically addresses the needs of ESL students in our pr
to develop standards in between the two, in order to both maintain the best qualifications and recognition of transferable teaching qualifica
ning and funding.
pplicants whom have no Canada background in TESL.
em a signifcant amount of valuable life time, effort and stress.
ESL qualified people left out--and there also needs to be a transitional period when people in process of meeting ATESL standards will be a
perienced teachers.
here at asll and probably not in any of the samller centres. Some is better than nothing.
oughout the country.
e, but who do have TESL specific training & certification and experience in teaching to receive some kind of accreditation, be it in a differen
degree. Using TESL standards but giving a variety of different options reflecting the different training would be more appropriate so all tea
BUT ALLOW FOR EXPERIENCE TO BE CONSIDERED A VALID OPTION TO EDUCATION.
around this so it is not too onerous for the certification committee.
things are fine as they are.
. Set up which courses are recognized for your teachers from other provinces properly.
nnot speak English well enough in Canada to teach it, in particular referring skills, idiomatic expressions, and colloquialisms. This comes from
elevant, but excluded from TESL Canada's criteria. Please see notes under questions 3 and 4 above.
ATESL totally autonomous in governing language teachers in Alberta and therefore should develope their own detailed standards which acco
the committee would take in verifying credentials and training to determine if they fit Option A. If they have to go beyond those steps, the
be granted. The IQAS staff have specialist training in evaluating foreign credentials.
hat certificate. Clear distinction between university degree programs, diploma programs and "vocational certificate" programs (that unfortun
n committee working as volunteers, and lacking time and resources to assess each applicant, I suggest that for a period of time we refer th
earner gains skill in DOING something, rather than just head knowledge) can benefit our profession as we have seen time and again.
ugh for ATESL?
ds of ESL students in our province. It allows also for a smaller number of accreditation applications, and perhaps encourages a more perso
ansferable teaching qualification, both of which are important in ESL teaching, I believe.
g ATESL standards will be able to complete it. I would say that candidates with TESL Canada certification should be accepted in Alberta, but
reditation, be it in a different category or something from both ATESL and TESL Canada. Thank you.
e more appropriate so all teachers can be included. Just because I don't have training from either university (despite having an education d
oquialisms. This comes from personal observation with 3 previous colleagues.
etailed standards which account for weaknesses in the TESL standards.
go beyond those steps, then refer applicants to TESL Canada.
ate" programs (that unfortunately "produce ESL teachers" training them for the short period of 3 months and supplying them with knowled
a period of time we refer these applicants to TESL Canada. I still feel it is valuable to have a distinction between TESL and ATESL accreditat
seen time and again.
ps encourages a more personal evaluation process which would take individuals into consideration.
be accepted in Alberta, but there might be a few different categories, depending on their level.
spite having an education degree majoring in special education from the U of C) doesn't mean that I'm not a good ESL teacher.
pplying them with knowledge and skills whose quality differs slightly from the quality of these learned in the conditions of a regular profes
TESL and ATESL accreditation, but it is based on instinct and a pride in our organization. Perhaps it is not practical.
od ESL teacher.
onditions of a regular professional workshop). Regulations and policy for ESL employers conserning the accreditation of their staff on the bas
tion of their staff on the basis of the program in which this staff is involved.
Accreditation
Any other comments?
Answer Response
Options Count
53
answered question 53
skipped question 183
Response
Number
Text
1 There will always be many foreigners with qualifications that don't exactly fit any box. What needs to be examine
2 I think it does not use our volunteer and time resources well to have the redundancy at of accreditation at the pro
3 I've observed that there are too many "qualified" academics who claim Master or PHD status, and may have taug
4 I think that the ATESL standards are rather arrogant and presumptuous. There are a lot of qualified teachers wh
5 In light of the comments at the beginning of this (volunteers who work with the ATESL accreditation process vs. p
6 Glad the problem has been recognized. The other option would be to slowly build a list of recognized programs t
7 It would seem you are contemplating changes due to the time/effort involved in verifying overseas qualifications.
8 I was grandfathered into ATESL and as the requirements stand now, I would not qualify for membership. I have
9 If TESL standards are considered to be a national standard, then perhaps this would be more equitable; that is, o
10 An a certified immigration consultant I can tell you that a big obstacle to attracting a retaining new immigrants is
11 In the location that we teach, we have excellent teachers from other countries that are doing a good job but the
12 I think we can use our resources for better things than this when there is a system already in place that meets ou
13 Continuing with Option A and referring Option D applicants to TESL Canada seems like the best choice. This will e
14 I went to TESL Canada for PLAR. I already have a TESL degree, but it was done prior to TESL Canada's standards
15 I think the standards should be the same or comparable whether it is for TESL or ATESL accreditation.
16 ATESL Option A provides a motivation to instructors and /or potential instructors to get local (Alberta) TESL educa
17 As long as the ATESL executive and membership have confidence in the PLAR process that TESL Canada has in p
18 Personally, I am very pleased to see ATESL surveying members regarding this issue. I have spoken to many colle
19 I'm not sure about this. I would like to discuss it more and learn about what other people think about this. If we
20 My answer to #6 reflects my understanding of the difficulty involved in assessing applicants under D. If TESL Can
21 If TESL Canada would independently look at all university diploma and master's programs and assess whether or
22 As a teacher who is applying for accreditation in Alberta I can sympathize with the volunteers who have to review
23 It is good to have in the accreditation commeettee people with different backgrounds as they can juge better the
24 I have ATESL certification but now I have to apply to TESL Canada if I want to obtain TESL Canada certification. I
25 It seems that if you are considering referring applicants who do not qualify for Option A to TESL Canada, then thi
26 I believe that, along with any changes that may be made to the accreditation process, ATESL needs to push for E
27 Fake university documents are a huge industry. If ATESL doesn't have the resources or time to verify the authen
28 Foreign instructors are assets in the field of ESL in Canada.
29 I appreciate the opportunity to take part in this survey . I think it was a good idea to ask for input, and hope that
30 I would also like to see the standards tightened up to require an Education Bachelor's degree. Reason: the meth
31 Is the accreditation committee doing all the verification themselves? Are they using services such as IQAS for int
32 The main goal will be for teachers trained outside Canada to go under one evaluation process and not two as it is
33 I think a national accreditation scheme is the preferred way to go as that would make it easier for people who ma
34 Sometimes when accreditation is done under a larger umbrella organization, people can fall through the cracks in
35 The challenge appears to be with Internationally educated teachers so the solution should address that while mai
36 More consideration should be taken in hand to deal with foreign applicants who receive training outside Canada a
37 Anyone who has been trained and who has been teaching EFL overseas should be able to join both TESL and ATE
38 I think standards should be uniform throughout the country.
39 Consider accreditation for those who also hold Master of Education degrees; coupled with hours of teaching in an
40 It is a hassle to get two sets of accreditation, and I only pursued ATESL credentials back in 2006. If we are to go
41 ESL teachers in their 40s and above, who have been teaching for some decades with the best training that was a
42 With over 20 years of experience teaching language, over 10 of that in adult ESL and EAP, and a Canadian univer
43 n/a
44 Taining only can not substitute educational degree in ESL ,Whatever the number of practical hours ,it is useless if
45 I'm not really familiar with TESL standards.
46 Teach: impart knowledge to or instruct someone as to how to do something
Teacher: a person who teaches esp
47 In regards to the previous question:Maybe it is a good idea just to discontinue with Alberta-specific accreditation
48 The recommendation suggested, to continue with ATESL for Option A and refer applicants who do not fit Option A
49 After receiving my ATESL Accertidation I started the process to receive the TESL Canada Accreditation and found
50 Thank you
51 Thank you all for the wonderful job you do.
52 Assessing standards is a huge job for volunteers. The job is becoming larger and larger so I believe that one issu
53 My proposed plan of action would eliminate the hassle that ATESL is presently facing with foreign-trained applican
ox. What needs to be examined is not just what is also what was taught in those courses or programs- this is what is done by licensing and
y at of accreditation at the provincial and national levels.
HD status, and may have taught English in their hoe country, who CANNOT SPEAK THIS LANGUAGE WELL.
a lot of qualified teachers who are not getting the recognition that they deserve because ATESL has a very narrow definition of what is an a
ESL accreditation process vs. paid staff who work with TESL Canada process - news to me!), and the number of foreign trained teachers wan
list of recognized programs that do meet our specifications and include those in our accreditation process referring others to TESL Canada
ifying overseas qualifications. Hire someone instead of relying on volunteers. There is nothing wrong with charging applicants a fee for accre
alify for membership. I have taught ESL/EFL for over 20 years, in a variety of environments (both in Canada and overseas) and to a wide v
be more equitable; that is, only one set of standards apply to all regardless of the province.
a retaining new immigrants is recognition of foreign credentials. Also the lack of TESL Support Roles in Rural Areas. This is a serious issue in
are doing a good job but there may be a recognition that teachers from other provinces are not getting their qualifications recognized. Som
already in place that meets our needs. I would absolutely support the use of TESL Canada's standards. It is also easier for practitioners to o
ke the best choice. This will ensure that foreign applicants have the benefit of informed adjudicators. If this goes forward, ATESL should en
or to TESL Canada's standards being introduced, and as I was out of the country at the time I was not "grandfathered" in. I am not an immi
TESL accreditation.
get local (Alberta) TESL education. We need to keep our local TESL educational units alive to provide current research on methods, materia
ss that TESL Canada has in place, it would make sense to refer as many Option D applicants to it as possible.
. I have spoken to many colleagues who deserve recognition for their dedication and excellence in teaching.
people think about this. If we go with CANADA TESL perhaps we can negotiate an agreement so ATESL accredited people can be grand-fat
plicants under D. If TESL Canada has the machinery in place, then I think a reasonable compromise is to use their assessment in these situa
grams and assess whether or not they met their criteria, that would be great. Until they do, accepting a 100 hour course over a two year di
olunteers who have to review all of the applications. I hope that ATESL takes advantage of this opportunity to review their standards to ma
ds as they can juge better the education received in foreign countries.
n TESL Canada certification. It would be helpful if ATESL could arrange a "roll-over" option for existing accredited members. What was/is th
n A to TESL Canada, then this assumes recognition of the validity and usefulness of TESL Canada accreditation. If this is the case, then the
ss, ATESL needs to push for ESL programs to hire accredited teachers. I hear of teachers without accreditation working in a number of prog
s or time to verify the authenticity of foreign documents, this is the applicant's problem, not ATESL's. The integrity of our organization depe
o ask for input, and hope that at least some of the input proves useful.
's degree. Reason: the methodology component.
services such as IQAS for international applicants? Should there be more members on that small committee?
n process and not two as it is happening now. Therefore dropping referring these cases to TESL directly seems to me a fair movement.
ke it easier for people who may relocate from one province to another. It ensures one standard across the whole country.
can fall through the cracks in terms of how carefully they are being evaluated. I think that if we are too rigid in our requirements, that som
should address that while maintaining ATESL's critical role as an accrediting body
eive training outside Canada and wish to strengthen their Certification with ATESL accreditation.
ble to join both TESL and ATESL without further scrutiny as they have faced the greatest ELT challenge of all, i.e. teaching English language
d with hours of teaching in an ESL setting/classroom, years of profressional experience and perhaps professional developement, the candida
back in 2006. If we are to go the TESL Canada route, I would hope for some kind of reciprocal agreement where TESL Canada would appro
h the best training that was available during their youth deserve not to be treated like pariahs who will lose their positions if they don't imm
d EAP, and a Canadian university degree (B.Ed.) in teaching a second language, I was shocked to have my application rejected when I appl
practical hours ,it is useless if the the ESL teacher lacks the knowlege of ESL educational theories,and all their accompanied procedures,me
r: a person who teaches especially in a school.
The
Facilitator – Facilitate: to make (an action or process) easy or easier
above represent t
Alberta-specific accreditation and accept TESL Canada. That way it will be easier for the teachers to move from province to province if they
icants who do not fit Option A to TESL, is one that I strongly support.
nada Accreditation and found it to be an arduous and frustrating process. I wouldn't wish this experience on a 'dog'!
rger so I believe that one issuer is a choice that should be considered carefully. I appreciate all the effor that goes into ATESL even though
g with foreign-trained applicants. TESL Canada has a good system in place, we do not have to reinvent the wheel. Rather, we can identify th
hat is done by licensing and accrediting officials.
ow definition of what is an acceptable instructor.
foreign trained teachers wanting to continue their career in Canada (I get many resumes each month), I think that it is prudent to discontin
ing others to TESL Canada
ng applicants a fee for accreditation.
d overseas) and to a wide variety of students, ranging from literacy to academic programs and I consider myself a good teacher. I've prese
as. This is a serious issue in Alberta. We have regional concerns in this field of education that aren't necessarily being addressed. In addition
alifications recognized. Some Canadians go to other countries to teach and have vast experience without their Masters and can't get ATESL
easier for practitioners to only need accreditation from one place.
s forward, ATESL should ensure that these applicants are not penalized by having to pay extortionate amounts for their certification fees, in
hered" in. I am not an immigrant, but feel like one as my qualifications are not recognized. I am now in the process of redoing my training
search on methods, materials, etc. While I only have TESL Canada level one at present, attaining ATESL accreditation is a valid professional
ed people can be grand-fathered in.
eir assessment in these situations.
ur course over a two year diploma is ludicrous.
eview their standards to make them the benchmark for all of Canada and perhaps provide an additional service to teachers in Canada and a
d members. What was/is the rationale for ATESL accreditation separate from TESL Canada certification? It's best to follow a national standa
If this is the case, then there seems little point in continuing a separate set of standards for Alberta only, which seem to undermine the TES
working in a number of programs.All the accreditation processes grant permanent accreditation. Is there a need for probationary accreditat
rity of our organization depends on the quality of our membership.Alternatively, universities assess foreign credentials all the time. Why not
to me a fair movement.
our requirements, that some very valuable teachers will be eliminated from the roster. A certain amount of flexibility is needed in this proc
e. teaching English language and culture outside the natural context where this language and this culture occur.
developement, the candidate should be awarded accreditation
e TESL Canada would approve ATESL qualified people in a grandfather clause kind of situation.
positions if they don't immediate comply with TESL Canada/ ATESL standards.
cation rejected when I applied 5 years ago. I have since done the ACE Tesol Plar and may qualify for ATESL, but I will not go to the trouble
accompanied procedures,methods and techniques .
The
Th
easier
above represent the Oxford definitions of the verbs to teach and to facilitate, as well as the definitions of teacher and facilitator.
province to province if they have to.General comments:I think the most important action that ATESL can take in general is to encourage the
oes into ATESL even though I no longer live or work in Alberta.
el. Rather, we can identify the current trend of more foreign-trained applicants and embrace this change. I think we will find that this shift in
hat it is prudent to discontinue the ATESL standards. Also, Alberta has a reputation as being a "rogue" province in many of its policies (in th
f a good teacher. I've presented at conferences and professional workshops. I am currently working in a program in a college in Alberta th
being addressed. In addition the prohibition on teaching younger students is an issue. I am certified to teach High School ESL in the British
Masters and can't get ATESL qualified. We need a better balance in the qualifications rather than telling the teacher if you are Canadian wit
or their certification fees, in addition to having had to pay for assessment of their qualifications through agencies such as IQAS.
cess of redoing my training with the eventual goal of attaining TESL Canada certification.
tation is a valid professional goal, whether required by employers or not.
o teachers in Canada and abroad through development of their website.
t to follow a national standard that is transferrable across Canada and standard across the country.
seem to undermine the TESL Canada accreditation standards. The main difference I can see between the two (and the reason I don't quali
d for probationary accreditation? Through this, applicants could obtain accreditation for a fixed term on certain conditions e.g. working for a
ntials all the time. Why not require an Albertan university or IQAS to approve credentials? If this works like I think it does, this would give
xibility is needed in this process. I know that solid, high standards must be maintained, but we are in danger of getting rid of that importan
t I will not go to the trouble and expense of applying again.
The
of teacher and facilitator.
definitions themselves define the parameters of teaching. Some teachers are born, others are made. That an
general is to encourage the employers to look more closely at the candidates and their skills. The employers should be more flexible and lo
we will find that this shift in membership make-up will make for a richer, more diverse and interesting membership.
in many of its policies (in the past, for example, around human rights issues as well as environmental issues). Perhaps adopting the TESL
am in a college in Alberta that provides EAP programs for international students. None of my peers qualify for ATESL accreditation and as a
gh School ESL in the British System but wouldn't be allowed to do that here despite having a Master's Degree. B. Ed's also need Linguistic su
cher if you are Canadian without a Masters you don't qualify and if you are from another Country with a Master you don't qualify.
s such as IQAS.
and the reason I don't qualify for ATESL accreditation) is the requirement for ESL teaching experience in Canada. This may of course be an
onditions e.g. working for a certain number of hours and obtaining a positive performance review. Then they could be granted permanent
hink it does, this would give the applicant the opportunity to have his or her credentials approved, but at no additional cost or work to ATES
getting rid of that important personal and individual touch that is provided on a provincial level.
n, others are made. That anybody can acquire knowledge is a fact, however, not all can apply that knowledge or pass it on. Still, others are
ould be more flexible and look at experience more than at credentials, ask to present a portfolio, to give a demo-lesson, etc. I've been in a r
Perhaps adopting the TESL Canada guidelines also helps to break down this reputation a little. Finally, I have a couple of friends who have
TESL accreditation and as a result do not belong to ATESL. A number of them have taught ESL for over 10 years, have their performanced
. Ed's also need Linguistic support that they don't have it. We should have the same status as Speech Therapists with them (if we have an M
you don't qualify.
a. This may of course be an important distinction for some institutions/employers such as those offering courses for new Canadians. Other e
ould be granted permanent status.
itional cost or work to ATESL volunteers.
However, anyone with the interest, desire, and
r pass it on. Still, others are gifted to be able to pass on knowledge efficiently and effectively
-lesson, etc. I've been in a ridiculous situation when the employer said that they only accept applications from those who completed CELTA
couple of friends who have worked in the K-12 system, trained in one province and trying to work in others. They've had a miserable time
s, have their performanced reviewed twice yearly and attend conferences. Personally, it's unfortunate that competent, motivated instructor
with them (if we have an MA) but instead we really aren't considered real teachers because of the Teacher's Union. I was speaking with so
for new Canadians. Other employers, such as universities offering courses to exchange students, may prefer international experience. In an
with the interest, desire, and patience to do so, can be a facilitator.Adult ESL students, by and large, generally do not require extensive know
hose who completed CELTA or a TESL program at Mt. Royal (Not even the U of C). They didn't even want to hear about my experience of te
ey've had a miserable time in doing so as they' ve been told that they are missing some little piece (despite years of teaching and ongoing p
petent, motivated instructors like these feel inadequate in the face of thier professional association. I understand the need for accreditation
nion. I was speaking with some teachers with B.Ed backgrounds who didn't even know about the IELTS Exam. It was frankly embarrassing
ernational experience. In any case, the employer can make this decision, and it seems unfair to say that one is not a qualified English langua
o not require extensive knowledge acquisition. Rather, they need a fast way of being able to apply their knowledge and experience in a stra
r about my experience of teaching ESL in and outside Canada. I wholeheartedly believe that if the applicant can teach professionally and ha
rs of teaching and ongoing professional development). I would hate to think that our profession could also contribute to this kind of havoc
d the need for accreditation and yet, considering the true, measurable benefits of belonging to ATESL, I sometimes wonder if my profession
t was frankly embarrassing from an International Education standpoint. I would like to see TESL Instruction become more in line with Immig
ot a qualified English language teacher simply because one does not have significant experience teaching in Canada. Additionally, I think th
ge and experience in a strange environment, whereby a foreign language presents a communication problem. Ergo, they are most in need
teach professionally and has the skills that fit the educational program, then it does not matter whether s/he is accredited or not and where
ribute to this kind of havoc in individuals
mes wonder if my professional association is shootin
ome more in line with Immigration Policy in
nada. Additionally, I think that the TESL Canad
rgo, they are most in need of
accredited or not and where the educa