apkemails by 0oaC74

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									So this is a record of my ongoing email war with APK. I threw the first punch in response
the infamous OSY forums - the war started on faithful Monday evening when I finally had
enough of what APK had been saying to him:

Message-ID: <4223D4B6.60602@jaylittle.com>
Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2005 21:34:30 -0500
From: Jay Little <jaylittle@jaylittle.com>
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To: apk4776239@hotmail.com
Subject: Hey fuckhead
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Hey I hear you are making threats against my buddy Jeremy. Continue to do so and I can assure
you that are playful game is going to make a transition to an entirely new level. Your 5-Star
world of ZD-NET bullshit is about to come crashing down around you. Walk away from this.
Now. Soon the few morons left believing in you will see you for the idiot that you truly are.

On second thought - keep running your mouth. Watching you crumble under the pressure has
become quite amusing. Perhaps I will write a book entitled, "The story of a fuckhead named
APK"

Jay

APK soon replied:

From: "APK" <apk4776239@hotmail.com>
To: "Jay Little" <jaylittle@jaylittle.com>
References: <4223D4B6.60602@jaylittle.com>
Subject: Re: Hey fuckhead APK REPLY (STOP EMAILING ME)... apk
Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2005 10:33:32 -0500

Bring it on to that next level... you go for it. You're just another
"Anonymous Nobody" in life and out online. Want to bring it to the next
level? Face me like a man in real life, ok? SO, Stop emailing me weirdo.

APK

Back and forth it began as I replied:

So you've finally figured it out that I am in fact not Jeremy? Well good for you fucktard. Now
let's talk about something else. Crawl back into your hole you russian piece of shit. Your
reputation is worth less than mud online and your shit software reeks of kindergarten-level
programing skills. I mean comeon how many people think that distributing a batch file installer
is an appropriate method for installing something? And also WHAT THE FUCK is the point of
a graphical ping application?

I could ask these sort of questions all day but the answer will be the same. There is no point.
Just like your existence. As for the email - this is not going to stop until you shut the fuck up
and leave everybody I know alone. You will not be allowed threaten physical violence against a
friend of mine and to get away with it. We will nail your ass to the wall by the time that this is
all said and done. I strongly suggest you walk away from this and leave it be.

Think it over.

APK responds:

FIRST OF ALL, STOP EMAILING ME.

SECONDLY, replies on technical notes, you minor league NOBODY in this field:

Jaylittle: "So you've finally figured it out that I am in fact not Jeremy? Well good for you
fucktard. Now let's talk about something else. Crawl back into your hole you russian piece of
shit."

I am not russian. Mistake.

Jaylittle: "Your reputation is worth less than mud online and your shit software reeks of
kindergarten-level programing skills."

LOL, you mean like only knowing VB.NET, ASP, & webdevelopment + MINOR Alterations to
someone's already existing VB work? Know anybody like that?? LOL, look in a mirror. That's
all you have done professionally, right?? LOL... I've done a HELL of alot more, & for much
larger companies.

Wake up, loser. You're a rookie.

Jaylittle: "I mean comeon how many people think that distributing a batch file installer is an
appropriate method for installing something?"

Batches benefits:

First of all, it avoids hassles w/ Installshield engine version mixups, which I posted the fix to at:

(Funny, no arstechians knew that... lol! Figures... most of you? Are @ YOUR minor league
level, or 20++ year losers with nothing of note to their name either, even after all that time. The
house of losers in computer related areas = Arstechnica.)

Batches keep the install distros 2-3mb smaller than most "canned installers" for 1, batches are
easily customizeable by most end-users since DOS batch code is cake to edit with notepad.exe
for instance, & also batches allow this type of installation to have easy views of the entire zipfile
distro internals... whereas IntallShield does not via most archival tools available to most users.

You really ARE a rookie, aren't you, asking questions like that? Go away little boy, you're still
an infant in this field, unknown worldwide, & probably never will be.

Jaylittle: "And also WHAT THE FUCK is the point of a graphical ping application? "

For logging pings, checking for instance VPN connections uptime & to warn the admin of it
going down via various methods (warnings on screen, sounds, email etc.) & to be EASY to use
storing for instance, recently used ping'd systems into a file or registry for droplist repopulation...
so you don't have to remember EVERY IP or URL you ever pinged to test.

BOY, you are really a numb-brain having to ask this... that, or you are just too RAW/GREEN
still to understand this, programming-wise OR networking engineer/admin/tech wise.

Jaylittle: "I could ask these sort of questions all day but the answer will be the same. There is
no point. Just like your existence. As for the email - this is not going to stop until you shut the
fuck up and leave everybody I know alone."

Jaylittle: "You will not be allowed threaten physical violence against a friend of mine and to get
away with it."

Uhm, arstechnica did it to me first. I have that archived & the mods @ Windows IT Pro mag can
verify it... and the post isn't gone, just not visible. A court order can have that shown easily.

Just like YOUR email acc't. & Jeremy's too... keep that in mind!

And, since you are SUCH "tough guys"? Try that face to face with me sometime. I will knock
you out bigmouth. Oh, you never will, I know your kind: YOU wouldn't last 3 minutes where I
am from talking like that, creampuff.

Jaylittle: "We will nail your ass to the wall by the time that this is all said and done. I strongly
suggest you walk away from this and leave it be. "

LOL, nope, you are all going down... you included. Your emails AND my replies? They go right
to YOUR ISP and Jeremy's as evidence so this is all on record. I will see you all in a court of
law, promise that, it's NO threat.

Alexander Peter Kowalski
apk

Wow. The idiot really believes that distributing his programs with "batch file" installers
is the best way to go. That is enough to get every technical professional laughing at him
but I decided to keep going anyway:
I didn't know it was possible for you to come off as even dumber than I already thought you
were. I'm sorry to say that I was mistaken.

"LOL, you mean like only knowing VB.NET, ASP, & webdevelopment + MINOR Alterations to
someone's already existing VB work? Know anybody like that?? LOL, look in a mirror. That's
all you have done professionally, right?? LOL... I've done a HELL of alot more, & for much
larger companies. "

No you haven't. How do I know? 1) You write shit. 2) You use shit tools. 3) You don't have
any inkling of a clue what professional product development is. Also FYI I'm an established
ASP/ASP.NET/VB.NET/C# programmer. I've been working in this industry for years and I've
established a reputation for quality and excellence. I have a list of references a mile long all of
whom will attest to my commitment to good work, can you honestly say the same? I think not.

"Wake up, loser. You're a rookie. "

This is coming from a guy who is writing Delphi apps that are nothing more than overrated ugly
GUI front-ends for command line utilities included in windows? You are kidding right?

"First of all, it avoids hassles w/ Installshield engine version mixups, which I posted the fix to
at."

Ever since 1999 when Windows 2000 went final, Windows Installer has been available. It is the
de facto standard for building and distributing installers for all Windows platforms. You can
bitch about Installshield and other tools all you'd like but building Windows Installer packages
(*.msi) is quite simple and doesn't present any major issues at all. The fact that you don't know
about this technology speaks volumes about your lack of experience and skill.

"Batches keep the install distros 2-3mb smaller than most "canned installers" for 1, batches are
easily customizeable by most end-users since DOS batch code is cake to edit with notepad.exe
for instance, & also batches allow this type of installation to have easy views of the entire zipfile
distro internals... whereas IntallShield does not via most archival tools available to most users."

MSI packages are quite efficient when it comes to storing their data. Not only that but MSI
packages exhibit a much higher degree of compatibility across various Windows platforms than
your batch file possibly can. Not to mention that MSI packages virtually eliminate DLL Hell
related issues (which your batch files make no attempt to address) and they provide the user with
simple and clean methods for upgrading and/or removing their installation. Alas your batch file
can't and doesn't account for these possibilities, does it now?

"You really ARE a rookie, aren't you, asking questions like that? Go away little boy, you're still
an infant in this field, unknown worldwide, & probably never will be. "

If being unknown in a sea of programmers worldwide is the alternative to being known for
putting out overrated garbage that has a tendency to break OS installations, then I'll take the
former.
"For logging pings, checking for instance VPN connections uptime & to warn the admin of it
going down via various methods (warnings on screen, sounds, email etc.) & to be EASY to use
storing for instance, recently used ping'd systems into a file or registry for droplist repopulation...
so you don't have to remember EVERY IP or URL you ever pinged to test."

You are idiot. Truly. No admin worth his fucking weight in shit is going to be using your
graphical ping client for anything of the sort. It only takes two seconds to go to the command
line and "ping" a machine the standard way. Do you even know what an admin does for a living
or are you so buried in your own world of illusion that a GUI client for one of the simplest CLI
utilities on the planet seemed like a good idea? Nevermind... I just answered my own question.

"BOY, you are really a numb-brain having to ask this... that, or you are just too RAW/GREEN
still to understand this, programming-wise OR networking engineer/admin/tech wise."

The entire internet is laughing at you. Rest assured sir, I am laughing with them.

"Uhm, arstechnica did it to me first. I have that archived & the mods @ Windows IT Pro mag
can verify it... and the post isn't gone, just not visible. A court order can have that shown easily. "

Fuck you and your court order. Ars has nothing to do with OSY. Oh and by the way call your
imaginary lawyers and have them start drawing up the papers for your lawsuit aganst me because
I plan on creating a special site detailing your exploits and hosting it online for all to see. I'll
likely even include copies of these emails as well as the copies of the source to your apps that I
obtained.

"And, since you are SUCH "tough guys"? Try that face to face with me sometime. I will knock
you out bigmouth. Oh, you never will, I know your kind: YOU wouldn't last 3 minutes where I
am from talking like that, creampuff. "

Is sad that this is the best you can do.

"LOL, nope, you are all going down... you included. Your emails AND my replies? They go
right to YOUR ISP and Jeremy's as evidence so this is all on record. I will see you all in a court
of law, promise that, it's NO threat. "

OH NOES! DONT CALL MY ISP!!!!! Hey Fuckhead: My email has nothing to do with my
ISP. Feel free to call them all you like but it won't get you anywhere. Also I'd be terribly
surprised if you even knew who my ISP was considering it took you months to figure that
Jeremy was in Canada instead of California and that his ISP was completely different from your
initial "guess". What amazes me is that despite that your obvious neophyte nature when it
comes to networking you still talk shit like you were gods gift to the unwashed masses.

If you are such a pro, explain to me how it is that I have obtained the pathetic pieces of source
that comprise your suite of shitty applications? So much for your security eh?
This is my final email to you APK. You are simply not worthy of the time. Email in reply if
you'd like but it will be ignored and you will receive no reply.

Of course I was lying. This battle was going to continue for quite awhile longer. APK
replies:

First of all, this has to be your 4-5th email to me, STOP EMAILING ME.

My reply to you to finish your pitiful, 3-4 years coding replies:

Automated installers add too much size to my distribution & there's no question they do that.
They also make it hard for the end-user to examine the contents of a distribution vs. ZIP files
content with normal tools endusers have, & batches are easy for end users to customize! On size,
no matter WHAT you use (Installshield, Wise, Windows installer .MSI packages, etc.) you add
2-3mb more. The shareware toolset I have is up to 18mb as is for download. Using canned
installers adds another 2-3mb to that. I won't do that to people on dialup.

Get it? FINALLY??

As far as VB, C#, & .NET & your resume I saw? LOL... performance on them stinks. I use them
myself, but a waste of time. They don't produce self-contained .exe files and this is partially why
interpreted code can't perform as well as a "true" self-contained .exe file. Do they create code
that instantly ports to Linux? Delphi does via Kylix. Do .NET runtime driven code from them &
assemblies run as fast or perform as well (let alone compile as fast)?? NO!

Again - I've seen your resume, it's not impressive. There's no Enterprise Level projects on it. Just
maintenance work really & tiny projects and for a few years only, I have more than a decade
now under my belt as a pro & some HUGE projects that span multiple mullions of lines of code
in them (2 VB, 2 Delphi) each. Who are you trying to fool? Comparing your experience to my
own in this field isn't fair - You're a 2-3 year pro @ best, I have 3x that under my belt as far as
experience & with alot more tools... the ones you use, plus many more, cross-platform as well &
of far greater complexity in addition to shareware/freeware work. Wake up, smell the coffee
rookie.

As far as Delphi? The man who designed it and C# got hired away from Borland by Bill Gates to
improve the tools you use, Anders Hejlsberg. Why is that? Because Delphi has been shown (of
all places) back as far as 1997 in the Sept./Oct. 1997 issue of "Visual Basic Programmer's
Journal" to outperform MSVC++ and VB in build time, compilation time, and application
performance... doubling even C++ in MATH AND STRINGS performance & the test was run in
a COMPETING MAGAZINE & the charts didn't lie though they tried to downplay it. What
you see as features in Visual Studio, such as VB's data containers, are PURE Delphi &
knockoffs. Anders added them to it apparently, & they do make sense. Better than having to
CONSTANTLY embed for example, connections strings or function calls to them from modules
or classes.

IN that test in "VBPJ", yes VB won ActiveX formloads (big deal, not every program does that)
by a SMALL margin over Delphi, and MSVC++ won in graphics methods ONLY, by a good
margin over Delphi, the ONLY test it won over it of 9-10 of them.

Again - Delphi DOUBLED even MSVC++ in Math & Strings, and every programs does those.

Now, I've seen your resume, for years is about 1/2 as long as I have been in this field
professionally on your end and on much tinier projects.

As far as shareware? Some of my programs are small, granted but they've outperformed their
competition from Microsoft, Norton, AShampoo, JVPowerTools, & more. I posted the URL's
that proved that @ Windows IT Pro magazine, & they've been reviewed & rated well online
from BORLAND torry delphi page website, many other websites (like ZDNet & CNET for
years) Windows Magazine as a freeware of the year candidate, PCWorld, C'TMagazine, 2-3
Books, TONS of Cd-rom distros, 2-3 newpapers, articles I have written are on 2-3 corporate
websites, and 2 commercial softwares use my code & there is more, the list goes on & on... how
about you?

DLL Hell issues you mention? I have no dll's in my app that Windows has first of all, & the
.OCX's it has are protected via System/Windows File Protection mechanisms if needed. So much
for that argument on your end.

So... You have my sourcecode eh? Where exactly did you get it, how did you get it supposedly,
and prove you have it.

Going to post some more crap about that on your website along with your song about me then if
you have my sourcecode. This I have to see, because I know you don't have that. How could you
hack my system, if my IP changes constantly? Also, how could you do that, if my disks &
folders aren't shared (Server service = off)??

AGAIN - How and where did you get it from then? B.S., you are full of it. If you had it you'd
have posted it on your website and also have pasted in parts of it via email to prove that. You are
full of it, about your alleged "skills" in this field (.ASP, VB, & C# are a joke they are so easy &
performance-wise compared to Delphi? LOL! )... I use them myself, but don't like doing it. BUT,
it pays like anything else & you do what you're told to do on the job.

On the graphical ping, and my reply to you about it being used for periodic timed pings, logging,
and notifying users if say, their VPN or other network connections go down? PING.EXE cannot
do that by itself natively on all of it. And, my APKPing32.exe is NOT a "gui front to existing
Windows Utilities"... it uses functions from ICMP.DLL... get your story straight. 2 of the tools is
a GUI front of 35 of them, but that's it & those only. Quickest easiest way to build them. After all
I have 35 of them to maintain. I know of 2-3 Large Network administrators that use this tool in
particular by the way because it does all of that, in 1 program for them.

APK

Ahhh yes my mind game is beginning to really get to him. However I decided to step this
all up to an entirely new level by contacting the people who hosted APKs web content (as
he apparently can't afford to host his own) and get them to pull his sites. What I found
out is that most of the people hosting APKs stuff really didn't like him at all and had
simply forgotten that garbage was on their server so most were more than happy to remove
it. I wrote the following reply after I got his first site pulled:

Hmmmm.... well continue to talk smack if you'd like but you might want to notice:

http://www.pixelstation.com/APKWeb

I got it shut down bitch. Thats right. No more APKWeb for you. I'm also in the process of
getting your other borrowed bits of webspace shut down as well. I've been having a lot of
conversations with people on the net about you in the last few days and once people find out
what it is you are all about, they want nothing more to do with it. Oh and by the way - if you
want an archive of the files I've got that too. But you are going to have to go through me to get
it.

As for your bullshit: Delphi is shit. Nobody is using it. Borland has been on their way out for
a long time now.

Wow 2 to 3 users on your graphical ping app, eh? I guess you are well on your way to taking
over the world now, huh fuckhead? Well we will see how well you do after I finish getting
some more webspace of yours shutdown.

Heh. Maybe I'll even call the local Animal Control office and have them pick up that mangy
piece of garbage you call your pet. Maybe I'll give the NYPD a call and let them know that
somebody crazy I know that mentioned something about a terrorist plot is driving a red 2000
Dodge Intrepid with a NY license plate number of AKB-8688.

I gotcha by the balls buddy. Prepare to get fucked.

I also sent him another email:

Slowly but surely you are being destoryed. I'm about to take another one of your sites offline.
It seems that you friends don't have a problem with pulling the rug out from under you when I
explain what has been going on.

Hopefully Phillip will come around to. Seeing you get banned from NTCompatible would
pretty much make my week. He did instruct you not to go on anymore Ars conspiracy rants,
didn't he? Too bad you couldn't follow rules...

Time to pay the price bitch. And boy is it going to hurt. Badly.

Jay

That really pissed him off as I even signed up for an account at ntcompatible.com and
started going toe to toe with him in the forums there. See his next reply:

FIRST OF ALL, AGAIN: STOP EMAILING ME!

You have gone to www.ntcompatible.com & started up with me as well, got your posts removed,
which have been archived as evidence with witnesses seeing me do it as well.

Delphi outperformed VB and VC++ by the way, HUGELY, especially in Math & Strings work
as far back as 1997 in of all places, "Visual Basic Programmer's Journal" Sept./Oct. issue "Inside
the VB 5 compiler engine"... it doubled MSVC++ in strings & math, which EVERY program
does.

Also, if Delph sux so bad? Why did Mr. Bill Gates hire Anders Hejlsberg from Microsoft? He
designed both Turbo Pascal & Delphi, & he hired him to improve Visual Studio & all of its parts
& to design C# itself!

So much for your saying what you did below!

You're a psycho, again, stop emailing me.

APK

And another wonderful APKesque email:

STOP EMAILING ME!

(I am "Destroyed?" I have not edited my website in over what?... 6 years now?? Do you think I
care??? LOL... wake up psycho! Do you think I care...? It's ONLY a stale old website of mine...
again, one I have not updated in ages, but have archived anyhow! )

Try to remove my ratings from BORLAND itself where my shareware suite was rated as high as
could be their TOP rating no less... where only the owners who are coders & BORLAND folks
could rate them... I could care less even if you could. I am updating its programs anyway & the
owner knows me VERY from emails over the years. He will rate it well again, but not better -
not possible, at top rating anyhow!

LOL!

APK

P.S.=> Above all stop emailing me... this is being forwarded as information regarding Jeremy
Reimer at his ISP who is aware of you maniac & keeping your data on his tracking ticket as well
as evidence... apk

This is good stuff isn't it? He's back to threatening Jeremy which means that I'm only
going to continue messing with him hard. My replies:
Your second website is about to be removed. I have finished informing the operator of your
activities and he has agreed that the further he gets away from your influence the better. Can't say
I blame him as your sue-happy, threat-happy, illusion addicted mind just can't get enough of
bothering myself and Jeremy. Soon your presence will be entirely removed from the web APK.
Where will you go then? What will you do?

I'm following up on my threats, when are you going to follow up on yours?

Delphi sucks a fat dick. I mean seriously dude nobody who is writing serious code is writing
code in Delphi. In the short span of three years .NET has risen to eclipse the marketshare of
Borland's pissant Delphi product by at least an order of magnitude. Hell even Java makes Delphi
look like ass and frankly thats just not saying much. Borland on the whole is nothing more than a
shadowy decaying mass compared to what they used to be.

And yet another:

Wow. Just wow. Emailing Jeremy's ISP won't do you a bit of good. I AM NOT JEREMY. I
LIVE OVER A THOUSAND MILES AWAY FROM JEREMY. Get it through your head you
stupid fuck: The more you threaten Jeremy and I - the more retribution we will exact.

I could care less what Borland rated your shit software. I mean Borland is a company looking for
a place to lie down and die nowadays. They are no longer on the forefront when it comes to
application development. I mean hell even their free Kylix tool for the Linux community didn't
make a damn's worth of difference! What more evidence do you need?

You are indeed such a sad little man. Also if the website didnt mean anything, why does EVERY
POST OF YOURS ON NTCOMPATIBLE AND YOUR PROFILE LINK BACK TO IT?
WHY?

Go away little boy before I decide to really fuck you up.

So APK replies in his typical Delphi fanboy fashion:

Yea, I know you're not... you're in my OLD hometown Atlanta right?

GO AWAY FREAK-BOY, you are demented. Crackpot nutcase!

STOP EMAILNG ME NUTJOB!

By the way? Delphi is in use alot... you wouldn't know that though since all you do & probaby
about as good a job on as you did bothering me @ NTCompatible.com & GOT SMOKED at lol,
where you GOT PLAYED... you played yourself though, following me to MY place online...
man, I would be almost willing to BET Jeremy & crew from arstechnica watched you take
THAT beating too... how embarassed were you? HUGELY I bet... ROTFLMAO!
Your own fault though - You are like an ANT attacking myself, a MASTODON by comparison
in this field...

APK

P.S.=> The "industry expert" the LEET JayLittle with 2-3 ASP/VB tools under his belt doing
maintenance programming (seen your resume fool, its not even minor league) is going to tell me
that "Borland is dead", hey DUMMY? Borland had .NET tools working BEFORE MS did, just
so you know... another something you OUGHT to realize before you shoot your mouth off again
& look STUPID... what a chump! apk

And once again APK replied as our war seems to have diverged into two seperate email
streams now:

First of all - Listen, crackpot: FOR THE 10th time, STOP EMALING ME!

Are you sick in the head, do you NOT understand english??

You need to hear this though, so no pulling punches on your rookie coder or not here it comes:

Uhm, I have a SECOND website? Where is that?? I didn't even realize that... lol! Where might
that be???

BOY, you sure put up a GREAT showing coming to the NTCompatible.com website I go to
regularly today didn't you?

LOL, blowing it RIGHT OFF THE BAT trying to discredit me, eh?

(AND, Don't worry, I saved it as an archive in .mht & FireFox single format too... had to, it was
CLASSIC: Another arstechnician taking me on & falling FLAT on his face!)

Nice try rookie! Heck not even nice, you screwed up SO badly, right off... I just laffed.

Honestly, and am laffing HARD now thinking about it.

Nice part is? Since it's archived, I can email it to anyone as evidence thereof, bragging rights...
except, that it's me (Mastodon) being assaulted by an ANT (you in this field @ your puny skills
level) & failing in the "traditional Ars vs. APK way"... at least, lol, you kept up the tradition!
You're not even worth bragging rights... not enough skills & experience & it showed.

"You got PLAYED, you played yourself!"

ROTFLMAO!

And, in front of everyone there & your own arsboys too most likely!
Just proving you failures & rookies come to where I am constantly & trash yourselves.

(The only 2 of you that ever gave me a BIT of worry? PeterB... well, and JEH, but those two
actually are pretty OK @ this stuff... unlike Jeremy & yourself ASP boy, lol!)

What is funny is, I am not one of your "Insane Posters" as Jeremy calls you (Good name, fits for
SURE)... you are all crackpots.

On websites? You ACTUALLY think I give a DAMN about having a website?? It makes you
stationary targets.

I am "Mobile" & hard to hit... but, I think you learned THAT lesson today trying your crap @
NTCompatible.com & GETTING SMOKED!

LOL, ever see the film "White Men Can't Jump"? Well, the part about Wesley Snipes telling
Woody Harrelson "You either SMOKE, or you GET SMOKED" is all about you today... you got
SCHMOKED boy!

ON Delphi sucking: Funny, but the MS stuff is being redesigned by TurboPascal & Delphi's
designer... and about Delphi projects? LOL, I am @ a "Fortune 100" right now working as a
matter of fact working on Delphi to industrial controls AND to Oracle on Solaris. VB is in there
too, with SQLServer.

See, I am not some 'language fanatic' who knows only 1 tool/language like you. I started in
VB/Access in 1994 or so, & moved on. C/C++, Pascal/Delphi, VB in all forms, COBOL,
Assembler... doesn't really matter to me, it's NOT about language... it's about techniques &
principles. I just respect what Delphi can do, & its designer Anders Hejlsberg, immensely.

You obviously haven't grown/evolved to that stage yet... so as Matt Damon told that
SNOB-GOOF in the bar about him busting his pal?

"In twenty years or so, when you learn to think? Then you'll regret this... & if you don't like that?
WE CAN JUST STEP OUTSIDE"

Well... right there, rookie? You KNOW what I think of you... with your piss poor showing today
@ NTCompatible.com... in front of many of your own, probably Jeremy too. I would BET you
are STEAMED @ YOURSELF for f'ing up THAT bad, lol!

Embarassed a WEE bit? You ought to be... you messed with your betters in me, & got what you
deserved, brought it on YOURSELF! Nicest part? I am JUST BETTING your pals from ars were
there watching you do yourself in... how embarassing for YOU!

APK

P.S.=> Ah, all in all: I tried to give you a chance too, make peace via PM mail there, but NO...
stupid arsholes are ALL like you: You think Mercy is weakness... well, now you know diff.
because I "overwhelmed & devastated" you technically, and in outthinking you too... You like
apples? HOW DO YOU LIKE THEM APPLES? lol... apk

Wow he has actually slipped to the level of using movie quotes as part of his defense.
Thats pretty pathetic. Of course I replied:

I didn't know that replying to every thread with the same post about some ultra-stupid conspiracy
theory of yours is considering "schmoking" somebody. If thats the best you can do bitch - don't
bother. Frankly you are an idiot. Your solutions are shit. You made an ass of yourself in the
Exchange Public Folders thread and I brought that out to the forefront. You were wrong about
the white monitor thing (RESET THE VIDEO BIOS TO FIX A WHITE DESKTOP ONLY!!!
LOLLLLL). And on the flip side you apparently haven't used a single tool in the pstools suite
which is essentially in the arsenal that any reasonably skilled NT administrator keeps around.

OH MY GOD YOU SAVED IT ALL IN FIREFOX AND MHT FILES>?!?!?!?!? HOLY SHIT
BATMAN NOBODY COULD FORGE THOSE. Listen dumbfuck save all you want but your
presence from the web was virtually removed in the last few days. Lets review shall we?

1) http://pixelstation.com/APKWeb - GONE.
2) http://www.avatar.demon.nl - GONE (Only the pages with your name on them)

I mean the links at those two sites constitute the majority of your sickly self-abusing sig, do they
not? They are the links that you use to somehow "prove" to others that you the "real deal" and
somehow better than everybody else. The bottom line fact: You don't know shit.

You lost today. And if you'd like to tango some more you will loose tommorrow as well. I
will crush you until there is nothing left to crush punk.

Okay now at this point APK and I had an argument on the ntcompatible forum regarding
how to set permissions on public folders in Exchange. Somebody asked how to do it and
APK replied that you had to set the "NTFS permissions". This of course is 100% wrong
and I replied that this was the case and provided the thread starter with a list of steps on
how to set those permissions. APK couldn't comprehend the fact that he just got owned
(luckily for him his moderator friends on ntc deleted the thread) and he went batshit:

STOP EMAILING ME.

LOL, on the Exchange Server issue, I noted there was application level security you goof, noting
FTP from IIS does as well as Exchange. Didn't catch that in your skimming & missing key
points that got you "FRIED by APK" & RIGHT FROM THE GET-GO, which was absolutely
hilarious! Ha, & I would bet I was right about your arstechnica pals & Jeremy watching you get
BURNT right away. Stupid little Jeremy, sending his "mitey Jaylittle, best tech he knows type"
after me? LOL, so much for that... hell of a showing! NOT!

Now, above all? If you think that NTFS filesystem permissions DON'T affect folders & files that
FTP, IIS, or Exchange (really ANY program) can't affect them? Well, that explains ALOT about
you. Everything passes thru the filesystem to disk dummie, everything that resides there. Try
setting NTFS permissions sometime & see what I mean about Exchange storage folders goof!
My God, I would HATE to see your filesystem security. It's probably WIDE-OPEN!

Speaking of which... lol, care to post me MY sourcecode you supposedly obtained? Ya big
BULLSHITTER... lol! JayLittle, the L33T Jay Little... the "mitey HaX0R", not!

As far as the screen going white on that one guy? LOL, he told YOU "nice try" (no dice) & was
fixed... whether your STUPID brain registers it, or not. I did agree & stated it before you did
SKIMMER, that usually the screen will "pop" or blackout if the connection on the cable is bad...
this is exactly what I mean about you missing points.

GOOD TO SEE THAT YOU ABSOLUTELY KNOW YOU GOT "SMOKED" ON EVERY
OTHER POST YOU DID & ADMIT IT... hehehaahaha. TOO easy... An ANT attacking a
MASTODON, like I said. Rookie boy, in a decade or so, when you are able to think for yourself
& make judgements about anything in this field (let alone life) instead of being a "I read it & it
must be TWOO" b.s.? Talk to me then, ok? Heck, the way you "skim-read" & miss key points
(because your dull brain is SO out to try to "get me", that you just cannot think OR see straight,
period)... take off the blinders of RAGE there fool... you cannot get me, you know it... I KNOW
IT!

You're TOO damn dimwitted & WEAK!

Your problem numbnut is you do NOT read, & it got you "berndt" everytime... skimmer boy, or
are you just dyslexic? That'd explain alot. I figure you are brain-damaged anyways, because you
cannot understand STOP EMAILING ME, psycho-boy.

LOL, "an arsenal any administrator keeps around", oh, you mean "users with a better password"
which is ALL networkers are: face it. You are not much of a coder judging from that whimpy
resume of yours, probably just a netboy trying to be a coder.

OMG, the "avatar.demon.nl" is NOT my site goof... it's a pal of mine I have met online who took
my documents for tuning the speed & security of a network connection setup for Windows
2000/XP/2003 & put that data (most current) into a cascading style sheet type page for kicks on
his own. He's a good guy that helped himself & myself out to that.

You are SO stupid, it's not even funny anymore, besides being an "INSANE POSTER" as
Jeremy Reimer called you, which fits you loonos perfectly.

Ah, a pleasure to see you holding up & honoring tradition: The tradition of "APK overwhelms &
DEVASTATES Arstechnica (again & again)"... good job!

ROTFLMAO!

APK
Yet another from APK:

Facts:

(This first line? Should have added "from the mind of a deranged loon who thinks he is a coder")

") I have written quite a bit of C/C++ "

Oh really? Like what?? "Hello World"??? LOL!

") I have written quite a bit of VB "

"same reply"

"3) I have written quite a bit of .NET (C#/VB.NET) under Windows and Linux (using mono
which is something I'm sure you know nothing about) "

"same reply "

"4) I have written quite a bit of ASP and ASP.NET (which I must say produce quite a bit better
web pages/apps than I've seen your sad ass produce)"

"same reply "

"5) I spent over four years working at General Electric, one of the largest companies in the entire
world. I was a dev/net admin and quite clearly I fucking rocked at my job. How many
contractors manage to turn a 6 month contract into a 4 year one? Certainly not you."

Big deal, I have done the same for large companies but I am NOT going to be stupid & give you
their name. I don't volunteer that kind of info. & you might take stabs at me goof, but you are SO
far off-base its scary. Got a copy of my resume that you are basing this off of? NO?? Figures...
lol, hilarious!

"Some more Facts:

1) Delphi is fucking crap. It is not a language that is anywhere close to hitting the "enterprise
league". "

OMG, this tells me one HELL of alot right there... you know SHIT about it! Goof, Borland had
working .NET tools in Delphi out & working BEFORE Microsoft even did, lol... so much for
that!

"2) VB is also shit. Seriously claiming that you are doing enterprise work with a combination of
Delphi and VB only makes you look retarded."

OMG, again - this tells me ALL I need to know about you right there idiot! Delphi & VB are the
LARGEST & MOST USED Information Systems toolset there IS out there idiot! Yea, go ahead
& build information systems of enterprise class in C/C++, lol, see you a century later when your
projects overdue by a decade & doesn't work right even.

Do you know that C/C++ have 10x the amount of failed projects that VB does? DO YOU
KNOW THAT DELPHI IS RECOGNIZED WORLDWIDE AS HAVING THE LEAST % OF
FAILED PROJECTS ALSO?? No...??? Well, now you do!

"3) VB.NET and C# are not shit. In fact their ever rising popularity should be proof enough that
MS has still got what it takes to take the development community by storm. "

Performance-wise? LOL, the entire world community of programmers will disagree, & it was
developed for low-grade morons like yourself that code like idiots & don't know how to track &
deallocate RAM they allocated mainly.

(See, I figure it this way: Bungling DOLTS like yourself trying to PLAY PROGRAMMER?
NEED MANAGED CODE!)

"4) Professional Programmers laugh when they hear the name Borland uttered. 10 years ago
what they did meant something but since then MS has come along and virtually stomped them by
producing better products."

Really? Is that why "King Billy" @ Microsoft hired away the guy from Borland (Anders
Hejlsberg) to improve, add onto, & REDESIGN Visual Studio & create C#? LOL, you are
hilarious! Wake up goof, wake up!

"5) Your code is absolute shit. (LOL I'VE SEEN IT) "

Really? Again: Show me some of it, ok?? You said you had the sourcecode to my toolset???
Well, where is it????

"6) Your programs still use the same tired UIs that you were using over 5 years ago.
Multi-colored fonts, gradients, and poorly skinned buttons never looked professional and
nowadays they only make you look like some punk. (which appears quite accurate thus far)"

LOL, ok "great critic", the day you write stuff that goes into commercial products as I have twice
now, & ones that are recognized by Microsoft & such as great products? WELL, we MIGHT
actually pay you some heed. Ah, there is NO accounting for taste, but to each his own. As long
as the people that matter (clue, you don't) like it & rate it well (WHICH THEY HAVE)? Well,
you know the deal... I am fairly well known online & have been with a good rep for a decade...
you though? NOBODY EVEN KNOWS WHO YOU ARE or Jeremy Reimer either! LOL, keep
living in your "L33T HaX0r World" in your mind goof... lol!

"7) You haven't learned how to distribute your shit using a professional installer package. This
makes your garbage much harder to uninstall once the users realize what a mistake they have
made. "
OH boy, here goes the "canned I read it in some magazine spiel used to influence the rookies in
this field crap"... again - one day, a decade or two down the road, when you can THINK FOR
YOURSELF? Talk to me then.

"8) I dont live in Atlanta you idiot. If you spent so much time reading my resume and browsing
my site then you would know where I live. "

LOL, You just don't get it, do you? who the hell cares freak?? I don't... I just don't need some nut
emailing me out of "geek angst" who got his ASS BEAT by me consistently & came looking for
it following me around like some internet psycho stalker around the internet... you got what you
deserved though, lol! Brought it on yourself... YOU GOT PLAYED (you played yourself).

"We are done APK. However I will continue to remove your presence from the web."

OMG, still on your mental-trip there on that? LOL, living the illusion - Jay Little LIVE
"absolutely-live" psycho boy in concert, dribbling out his insane mutterings & delusions of
grandeur & POWER on the net... wake up chump. DO some actual learning & programming
.NET/ASP/HTML boy... lol!

"Despite the fact that you don't seem to have anything to say but some odd rehash of overused
movie quotes, I'm beginning to find you less than amusing. So I'll tell you what: If you think
you are so tough, lets see you shutdown Jeremy and I's sites, okay?"

"We have fucked your world up over the last two days and no amount of denial is going to
change that."

Yea, making me laff SO hard, my middle hurts! I am gonig to call your mails "the adventures of
mental boy online" lol...

"Weare laughing at you. "

Good, it's better than crying & getting your ASSES BEAT in public like you have consistently
by me... I am glad to hear it.

Ah, thanks for providing me my daily dose of laughter here... it's priceless! Dude, you are a
rookie in this field... face it. Your resume said it all & your "sad devotion" to your limited toolset
you use? Well, like I said before & will say it again: In a decade or two, when you are FINALLY
able to think for yourself? Well, maybe then?? We can talk... otherwise, the shit you say makes it
hard for me to type because I am LAFFING @ U SO HARD!

APK

He became so disjointed at this point that I started receiving two or three replies at once,
often to the same email. He was losing it at this point folks. I replied:
Facts:

1) I have written quite a bit of C/C++
2) I have written quite a bit of VB
3) I have written quite a bit of .NET (C#/VB.NET) under Windows and Linux (using mono
which is something I'm sure you know nothing about)
4) I have written quite a bit of ASP and ASP.NET (which I must say produce quite a bit better
web pages/apps than I've seen your sad ass produce)
5) I spent over four years working at General Electric, one of the largest companies in the entire
world. I was a dev/net admin and quite clearly I fucking rocked at my job. How many
contractors manage to turn a 6 month contract into a 4 year one? Certainly not you.

Some more Facts:

1) Delphi is fucking crap. It is not a language that is anywhere close to hitting the "enterprise
league".
2) VB is also shit. Seriously claiming that you are doing enterprise work with a combination of
Delphi and VB only makes you look retarded.
3) VB.NET and C# are not shit. In fact their ever rising popularity should be proof enough that
MS has still got what it takes to take the development community by storm.
4) Professional Programmers laugh when they hear the name Borland uttered. 10 years ago
what they did meant something but since then MS has come along and virtually stomped them by
producing better products.
5) Your code is absolute shit. (LOL I'VE SEEN IT)
6) Your programs still use the same tired UIs that you were using over 5 years ago.
Multi-colored fonts, gradients, and poorly skinned buttons never looked professional and
nowadays they only make you look like some punk. (which appears quite accurate thus far)
7) You haven't learned how to distribute your shit using a professional installer package. This
makes your garbage much harder to uninstall once the users realize what a mistake they have
made.
8) I dont live in Atlanta you idiot. If you spent so much time reading my resume and browsing
my site then you would know where I live.

We are done APK. However I will continue to remove your presence from the web. Despite
the fact that you don't seem to have anything to say but some odd rehash of overused movie
quotes, I'm beginning to find you less than amusing. So I'll tell you what: If you think you are
so tough, lets see you shutdown Jeremy and I's sites, okay? We have fucked your world up over
the last two days and no amount of denial is going to change that.

We are laughing at you.

And I replied again:

Wow.

Exchange isn't affected by NTFS permissions dolt. Not unless you remove ALL permissions
include SYSTEM permissions from its database folders. Heh. Nobody mentioned IIS FTP
which as you correctly pointed out is affected by NTFS permissions. I find it amusing that you
use knowledge of another completely unrelated product to cover for your complete and utter
LACK of knowledge for another.

Pathetic.

Thats right. I was playing hardball with him and I was hoping to see his later brain
explode once he tried to wrap it around the fact that he had gotten publicly schooled on the
exchange thing. He replies:

You said it yourself, & I did in that VERY post, saying "NTFS persmissions MAY be in play
here":

Jay Little - "Exchange isn't affect by NTFS permissions dolt. Not unless you

> remove ALL permissions include SYSTEM permissions from its database folders. "


Who's to say, that didn't happen? Goof, I said "may be in play" here... you really NEED to learn
to read & stop skimming... is this how you look @ code too? Enmasse, instead of line by line?? I
would say YES, if you can't even read & comprehend english correctly.

LOL!

Thanks for ANOTHER victory vs. you all from arstechnica!

(Jay Little, a man that respects tradition - the tradition of "APK overwhelming & devastating
arstechnica again & again"... lol!)

:)

APK

P.S.=> STOP EMAILING ME... apk

I wrote back looking to keep him online as I was attempting to examine what was at his IP
address:

You know nothing fuckhead. Get on AIM or MSN or Yahoo Messenger and we will talk some
more. Or are you chicken?

He writes back:

Hey GOOF? First of all, I don't WANT to talk to you... you can't teach me anything or benefit
me first of all, & secondly? You're another defeated by myself bungling arstechnica dolt... that
says it ALL about you to me. You lost my respect by trying to take me on, & following me
around online like some mental case ontop of it, you internet psycho stalker freak. BUT, losing
to me, IN FRONT OF ALL YOUR PALS LIKE JEREMY REIMER & right off the bat
yesterday (for your skimming ways & rookie level of knowledge in this field)??

Am I chicken? LOL, no... I don't waste my time on AIM etc. like a fool like yourself does.

ROTLFMAO! Good job, continuing "the tradition"...

APK

P.S.=> STOP EMAILING ME, GET IT LOON? apk

And then something odd happened. He sent me the same email about 6 times:

I saw your resume, you're DEFINITELY a rookie... I've been using BASIC in all of its forms
since 1982 asshole... VB since it came out, up to .NET TODAY and its performance? SUX!

(Just a fact)

Oh, incidentally, on Exchange & FILE/FOLDER permissions in NTFS? A little something from
Microsoft that would have finished you off in that thread, that shows that NTFS plays a BIG role
in Exchange server security you stupid fucking douchebag, in addition to its own security
settings showing I was absolutely right AGAIN asswipe:

http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/exchange/55/support/exchsec.mspx

"As you already know, Microsoft Exchange Server runs on top of Microsoft Windows NT®.
Because Microsoft Exchange uses many of Windows NT's security features, it's important to
make sure that Microsoft Windows NT is as secure as possible.

First, make sure that any volume containing Microsoft Exchange related files is formatted as
NTFS. Many times when someone attempts to hack a Windows NT Server, they'll try to break in
through a network share. Although you can't get rid of the default network shares, keep in mind
that file permissions (assigned through NTFS) add an extra layer of security to your server.
When file permissions and share permissions contradict, Microsoft Windows NT uses the more
restrictive permission. For example, suppose that an unauthorized user gained access to a
network share. If this user had full control over the network share, but had read only permissions
at the file level, Microsoft Windows NT would see the contradiction and grant the user read-only
permissions, because it's the more restrictive of the two."

WORKS BOTH WAYS, could be for you... or against you, if you set it wrong! That only
supplements you fucking up on every thread @ NTCompatible.com you tried to attack me in you
loser rookie punk!

STOP EMAILING ME!
APK

Wow. He really has no concept of how Exchange or even a Windows Service functions.
Though after reading the same email 6 times I was more than a bit annoyed when I wrote
him back:

Jesus Jumping Christ are you one dumb motherfucker. Those are general guidelines for
securing your system. All it says is that PUT YOUR EXCHANGE FILES ON AN NTFS
DRIVE SO THAT IF A HACKER BREAKS IN WITH A NOT-SO-HIGH LEVEL OF
ACCESS HE'LL STILL HAVE TO WORK TO GET TO THE EXCHANGE INFORMATION
STORE FILES.

Exchange itself doesn't give two shits about NTFS permissions beyond letting the Local System
account being able to access the Information Store files with full access. Adding or Removing
permissions for other users and groups on those files MAKES NO FUCKING DIFFERENCE.

I AM AN EXCHANGE ADMIN. HALF OF MY JOB IS DOING NETWORK ADMIN
WORK. YOU HAVE NO FUCKING CLUE WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT.

So put a sock in it you cunt.

I then sent him another email after I looked over the article. Not only did it not say what
he thought it did, but the article was written 6 years ago before the release of either
Windows 2000 or Exchange 2000 or 2003! This means that any information it did provide
would be horribly outdated anyway - so I let APK know that:

On another note - your precious exchange article was written in 1999 fuckhead. That means that
it was written for Exchange 5.5 which is two versions old. The content within it (even if you
hadn't completely misunderstood it) is 100% completely irrelevant.

Pathetic.

He responded of course. Don't you think that its more than odd that in every email he
asks me to LEAVE him alone yet he continues to respond?

It doesn't MATTER dumbbell... you don't even seem to understand the I/O methods the OS uses
via the NTFS filesystem ACL's apparently & call yourself a coder? You pull the SYSTEM user
entity and "BANG" down goes exchange itself!

The keyword in my reply over @ NTCompatible.com was "NTFS rights MAY be in play here"...
you yourself even said it:

> Exchange itself doesn't give two shits about NTFS permissions beyond letting the Local
System account being able to access the Information Store files with full access
You F'd up, as per usual.

APK

P.S.=> STOP EMAILING ME FREAK! apk

Heh. Here is another demonstrating his complete and utter lack of knowledge:

You yourself even said it, lol...

">Exchange itself doesn't give two shits about NTFS permissions beyond

> letting the Local System account being able to access the Information Store files with full
access"


If the user accidentally pulled that access? POOF... there goes the neighborhood!

:)

BY THE WAY, STOP EMAILING ME!

APK

Just freaking WOW! And here is yet another email from APK demonstrating his
complete ignorance on the subject:

So, if NTFS permissions via a group that has access to them is removed... you are telling me
Exchang will work right?

Above all: The keyword in my reply over @ NTCompatible.com was that the NTFS permissions
"MIGHT BE IN PLAY HERE" you fool.

Every application that hits the disk? Has to travel thru those on NTFS regarding ACL's for the
filesystem...

* That said? WELL, You're wrong again!

(Exchange admin or not dummy (big deal, you run an app someone designed), & you don't even
understand the Os' I/O subsystems & security design... which your apps, regardless of type, ride
& reside on + use).

APK

Errrr.... users can't remove system access to files on a remote server. What an idiot! And
take notice at how he keeps maintaining two seperate points of view just in case I take the
time to really prove that one of them is wrong. He hints that "NTFS permissions might
not be in play" all the while claiming that they are. At this point it is so completely clear
that he is out of his league that I decided to respond to the final emails and call it quits:

It does matter tard. Let me spell it out for you: The EXCHANGE SERVICES ALL RUN
UNDER THE CONTEXT OF LOCAL SYSTEM. USERS THAT ACCESS EXCHANGE ARE
INTERACTING ONLY WITH THE SERVICE - NOT THE FILESYSTEM SO THEIR
FILESYSTEM PERMISSIONS FOR THE INFORMATION STORE ON THE SERVER HAVE
FUCK ALL DO WITH THEIR PERMISSIONS IN EXCHANGE.

If you understand anything at all about Window's Services and how they worked... you would
understand this. This is basic knowledge possessed by most so-called "Win32 programmers" so
what the fuck is your excuse for knowing fuck all about this?

I can't believe you are arguing this. You can't substaniate it at all and everybody I share these
emails with are LAUGHING THEIR ASSES OFF. Are you so desperate to maintain your false
sense of superiority that no amount of logical reasoning is going to make you understand how
Exchange works? I work on this SHIT AS PART OF MY FUCKING JOB. I KNOW HOW IT
WORKS. You can probably barely configure your own goddamn mail client much less
understand how an enterprise email system works. And frankly I can ASSURE YOU THAT
NONE OF MY EXCHANGE USERS HAVE BEEN GIVEN READ AND/OR WRITE
ACCESS TO THE INFORMATION STORE FILES. ONLY ADMINISTRATORS AND THE
SYSTEM ACCOUNT HAVE BEEN GIVEN ACCESS.

We are done here cunt. You have proven yourself unworthy of further attention on my part. This
battle with you ends now.

And just to give him a taste of his own medicine, another:

A USER CANNOT PULL LOCAL SYSTEM ACCESS ON THE EXCHANGE SERVER.
WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU SMOKING?

And finally the last one with a couple of links to really make it hurt all that much more:

Here are some links ass-fuck:

Here is an entire article about public folder permissions in Exchange 2003. THERE IS NO
MENTION OF NTFS LEVEL SECURITY:

http://searchexchange.techtarget.com/originalContent/0,289142,sid43_gci1025495,00.html

Yet another:

http://searchexchange.techtarget.com/originalContent/0,289142,sid43_gci1025495,00.html
"When you open System Manager, navigate to Administrative Groups | your administrative
group | Servers | your server | First Storage Group | Public Folder Store. Now, right click on the
Public Folder Store container and select the Properties command from the resulting shortcut
menu. When you do you will see the Public Folder Store Properties sheet. This properties sheet
allows you to control the general behavior of the public information store. The main thing that I
wanted to show you on this properties sheet is the Security tab. The Security tab sets up the
permissions across the entire public folder store. This is where you can specify who should and
should not be allowed to create or delete public folders. This is important because you don't want
one of your users creating their own unauthorized public folders or deleting yours."

The Folder permissions in exchange aren't even the same as NTFS permissions. WHAT MORE
DO YOU NEED TO REALIZE THAT YOU ARE 100% COMPLETELY UTTERLY WRONG!
FUCK YOURSELF PUNK THIS IS OVER FOR GOOD. Consider yourself buried bitch.

I'm quite sure APK will respond. However this time I will not be responding to him. Of
course I've managed to get both of his main websites removed. I've also had extensive
conversations with the hosts for both sites and neither is feeling particularly sorry for APK.
APK claims he doesn't care but forwarded emails from one of the hosts show that this is
not the case:

Henk, I just checked articles links, they are down... what happened?

APK

P.S.=> The tuneup one iirc, was fine, but the other one for security
had pictures of the FreeBSD demons "hammering" down on the title (appears
UNIX nuts hacked it it almost looked like)... I went to see if they were
updated by you, & now they are down saying "removed due to internal
difficulty)... what happened man? ap

Yes APK is finally starting to feel the pressure. What he doesn't realize is that if he wants
to host his garbage now, he'll have to pay for it. Nobody wants to be associated with
somebody who runs around threatening people years later for hosting documents that have
his name on them. And for now.... this ends the saga of APK. At least my part in it.

Jay

								
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