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Véronique Irwin as long, therefore, as activity is not I guess I picked this quote because the distinction between Marx, The bourgeoisie has torn away from the Marx speaks often about how he thinks the bourgeoisie has Marx, voluntarily, but naturally, divided, man's voluntary and natural division of labor is confusing to me. I fail German family its sentimental veil, and has reduced corrupted the family unit, but I failed to pick up on any Manifesto, pg own deed becomes an alien power to him, to see the negative connotation he derives from natural, but Ideology, pg the family relation to a mere money evidence, if he offered it. It kind of just seemed like he was 476 of Reader which enslaves him instead of being also, I don't see how Communism as he proposes it provides for 160 in Reader relation. trying to strike a moral chord to get people to identify with his controlled by him. a voluntary division of activity/labor. cause without necessarily having any foundation for it. Adeola Salau “In the social production of their life, men I find this quote to be very well thought out and ironic in some Karl Marx, The whole character of the species-its This quote was in reference to what distinguishes humans from Karl Marx, Marx enter into definite relations that are ways. Marx talks about how for such workers, the Marx Engels species character-is contained in the animals. I found it very insightful because it made me realize Engels Reader, indispensable and independent of their will, consciousness is formed based on their occupational status and Reader, 4 character of its life activity; and free, the importance of self-autonomy and the conflict of interest p.76 relations of production which correspond to not beforehand. At least in modern days, from my standpoint, a conscious activity is man's species that arises when someone controls another person's life. The a definite stage of development of their person's consciousness is formed by their person and not by character. Life itself appears only as a whole idea of life as a means to another life was very disturbing material productive forces. The sum total of their occupation. means to life. yet very valid especially during the industrial era and in many these relations of production constitutes developing nations today. the economic structure of society, the real foundation on which rises legal and political superstructure and to which correspond definite forms of social consciousness.” (p.4) Khadijah private property has made us so stupid and I believe this quote encapsulates Marx's beliefs about the world. Marx, the philosophers have only interpreted the This quote interests me because Marx attempts in his theories Marx, Theses on Williams one-sided that an object is only ours when To Marx, capitalism has prevented us from being fully ourselves, Economic and world, in various ways; the point, however, to bring the theoretical to the practical, and in effect, create Feuerbach, 145 we have it- when it exists for us as capital, alienating us from our species being and making us desire Philosophical is to change it action. However, this quote interests me because in some or when it is directly possessed, eaten, unnatural things. This desire for wants and placing of value thus Manuscripts, respects Marx is like these philosophers. He interprets the world drunk, worn, inhabited, etc.,- in short, when limits humans, and emancipation through Communism is the 87 pretty well, which is why we read him hundreds of years later, it is used by us... The transcendence of answer. but to what extent does he change it? private property is therefore the complete emancipation of all human senses and attributes... (Marx, Economic and Philosophical Manuscripts, 87) ... The most recent of them have found the I like this quote because I think it's a clever way of showing his Marx, The ... ... correct expression for their activity when disdain with those who merely philosophize without doing. German they declare they are fighting avaunt What would he think of college professors today? Ideology, 149 phrases." they forget, however, that to these phrases they themselves are only opposing other phrases, at they are in no way combating the real existing world..." Chason Sippel An immediate consequence of the fact that To me this is insightful as Marx links what he feels is wrong with pg 77 The philosophers have only interpreted the I thought it was 1. an inspiring quote and 2. provocative on the pg 145 man is estranged from the product of his capitalism to his assumption about the nature of man. To me it world, in various ways; the point, however, level that Marx separates his sociological theories from labour, from his life-activity, from his seems as though he is equating the state of the worker (not is to change it. philosophy in that he feels he is not musing about what the species being is the estrangement of man owning his labor or production) as being at war with humanity's world is like or how it ought to be but writing on how the world from man. pg. 77 natural inclination of being a social and gregarious creature. He will change and man will return back to his nature. is not only estranged from the bourgeoise who "enslave him" but the fellow workers who he competes with. Brandyn Curry If my own acitivity does not belong to me, if I found this quote very interesting because I feel that this the The Marx- This estrangement" (to use term which will I found this quote hard to comprehend even after he explained The Marx-Engels it is an alien, a coerced activity, to whom, one question that Marx powers his whole argument around. Engels Reader be comprehensible to the philosophers) the two premises. I still found it hard to understand how the Reader Second then, does it belong? This question serves as the backbone for his whole theory of Second can, of course, only be abolished given two estrangement was abolished Edition pg 161 estranged labor Edition pg 77 practical premises" Kyle Casey The worker becomes all the poorer the This caught me by surprise and is misguiding. Why does one marx-engels He regards the theoretical attitude as the I don't quite understand the true meaning of this quote but Marx engels pg more wealth he produces, the more his become poorer if he produces more wealth? pg 71 only genuinely human attitude, while having only one genuinely human attitude would make for a 143 production increases in power and range. practice is conceived and fixed only in its very boring world. I want to know what this is really saying. dirty-judaical manifestation. Hence he does not grasp the significance of "revolutionary" of practical-critical, activity. Dee Giger The only wheels which political economy When reading this I first didn't know what avarice was. I then Pg. 71 The production of life, both of one's own in I found this interesting because I feel that he wrote this back Pg. 157 sets in motion are avarice and the war looked it up and it helped me understand what he was saying labour and of fresh life in procreation, now then and it is more directed towards life now. Production of life amongst the avaricious—competition. and how it applies to life today. It is interesting to see how the appears as a double relationship: on the is highly dependent on social relationships and social life as a political economy works and how greedy people are and can one hand as a natural, on the other as a whole. Natural talents or gifts are given to you at birth but all be. The greed of the political economy can determine how our social relationship. production is done socially through networks etc. society works. Martin Kessler Life is not determined by consciousness, but I chose this sentence because it immediately made me think of Karl Marx, What, then, constitutes the alienation of I find this quote interesting because it seems to suggest that Karl Marx, consciousness by life. Jeffrey Alexander's discussion of presuppositions regarding The German labour? First, the fact that labour is Marx holds an underlying assumption that all humans have an Estranged order. By saying that consciousness is determined by life, it Ideology, external to the worker, i.e., it does not inherent need to labor under their own will. Marx seems to Labour, page 74 appears that Marx holds the collectivist view. He seems to be page 155 belong to his essential being; that in his suggest that this need is what separates humans from other saying that outside circumstances influence the way individuals work, therefore, he does no affirm himself animals. However, it is not clear to me how or where Marx perceive the world, which seems similar to the collectivist idea but denies himself, does not feel content concludes this. that actions are influenced by past histories and structures. but unhappy, does not develop freely his physical and mental energy but mortifies his body and ruins his mind. Keri Hartman A forcing-up of wages ... would therefore be A lot of popular thought in the communist / socialist vein Marx, 1844 Private property has made us so stupid and This section really helped to clarify what exactly Marx is going Marx, 1844 nothing but better payment for the slave, emphasizes a leveling of wages through a rise in the relative Manuscripts, one-sided that an object is only ours when on about when he discussed social life, species-life, and all the Manuscripts, p. and would not conquer either for the wages paid to workers; it's interesting to note that Marx himself p. 80 we have it -- when it exists for us as capital, rest. It's also one of the few points in which he actually clarifies 87 worker or for labour their human status and views such programs critically. or when it is directly possessed, eaten, (well, at least explicates) his vision for what communism will dignity. drunk, worn, inhabited, etc. -- in short, look like, rather than just saying what it will not look like. when it is used by us ... In place of all these physical and mental senses there has therefore come the sheer estrangement of all these senses-- the sense of having ... The transcendence of private property is therefore the complete emancipation of all human senses and attributes. Curtis Ross “It is not the consciousness of men that Incomprehensible; I think that is is not your social being that Marx, Marx Qui si convien lasciare ogni sospetto; ogni Provocative and misguided; Compelling that he wants the Marx, Marx on determines their being, but, on the decides how one thinks and acts, because shouldn't the way on the History vilta convien che qui sia morta. reader to let go of what we might think and grasp what he is the History of contrary, their social being that determines you think and act decide what you do and like? Therefore if this of his telling us he thinks. In this attempt wouldn't he be telling us his Opinions, p 6 their consciousness.” is the case why is Marx saying that social behavior decides Opinions, p 4 that our questions and thoughts are wrong and that his are the everything one does? only ones worth thought? Yaa Life is not determined by consciousness, but I found that this quote was provocative because Marx takes a Marx, "The "The philosophers have only interpreted the I thought that this post was intriguing because it directly points Marx, "Theses consciousness by life. definite stance on where our consciousness originates. He German world, in various ways' the point, however, to Marx's revolutionary nature in his early work. on Feuerbach," makes it known that our consciousness depends on our lives Ideology: Part is to change it." 145. through a need for material and the act of production. I," 155. Jamie Song The worker becomes a slave of his object, The idea that the worker receives means of subsistence from his Marx, Man...treats himself as a universal and What does Marx mean by man treating himself as a universal? Marx, Estranged first, in that he receives an object of object seems at odds with the earlier sentiment that "sensuous Estranged therefore a free being. From my own observations of human nature, people tend to Labour, 75 labor...and secondly, in that he receives external world...ceases to be means of life" for the worker. Labour, 73 consider themselves individuals whose personalities and means of subsistence. When the worker appropriates the external world for his labor, predilections are uniquely their own. Even if Marx means that he devotes resources- the basic units that comprise means of we recognize ourselves as a human race, such an observation is subsistence- away from his own person. How, then, does he only accurate within a modern timeframe (specifically, receive means of subsistence from the object of his labor? Europeans used to think that Africans were of a different race). Wes Gordon "It is not the consciousness of men that I thought it was insightful into the mind of Marx. He obviously pg. 4 Marx- The only wheels which political economy The quote is somewhat provocative because I live in a pg 71 Marx- determines their being, but on the contrary, places the utmost importance on "nurture" of a man. Engels Reader sets in motion are avarice and the war capitalistic society. I just thought it was clever of him to Engels Reader their social being that determines their amongst the avaricious, competition. characterize economic competition as war. consciousness." pg. 4 Jordan Nuckolls It is not the consciousness of men that I found the quote to initially be very interesting. I had to read it Marx-Engels Therefore mankind always sets itself only The quote was very interesting to me. It gives you a different Marx-Engels determines their being, but, on the several times to try to comprehend it. Marx means that our Reader pg 4 such tasks as it can solve; since, looking at perspective on science and problem solving. When you look at Reader pg 5 contrary, their social being that determines social life determines our ability to understand and be aware of the matter more closely, it will always be it this way, it seems true that we only pursue goals and tasks their consciousness. our surroundings. found that the task itself arises only when that we know can be solved. the material conditions for its solution already exist or are at least in the process of formation. Mariel Sena The worker becomes an ever cheaper I found this quote really provocative and a sort of preface for Marx, Marx- Just as our opinion of an individual is not I find this concept somewhat confusing in that while I Marx, Marx- commodity the more commodities he what Marx is to cover further in this argument. I find the sort of Engel Reader, based on what he thinks of himself, so can understand that we do not rate people by how they rate Engel Reader, creates. (71) notion that people are equated to what they produce, who they Second we not judge of such period of themselves, how else can we judge a period of transformation if Second Edition, produce it for, and why they produce as one that is almost very Edition, transformation by its own consciousness. not by the people involved? Who then is to understand the Marx on the ingrained into why many people choose occupations that they Estranged transformation? An outsider may not have the same History of his do and how fulfilled they are by these occupations. Labor, page understand of the basis for this transformation nor the benefits Opinions, page 6 71 and consequences.
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